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661  Economy / Speculation / Re: Oh My God, What Happened to Bitcoin? on: September 27, 2018, 02:19:26 PM
I think it's the usual thing, we can see a few years back, There has always been the year in which negative news popping up, such as hackers and others. I think this is just to make bitcoin price fell. a few years back it is exactly, but after that, bitcoin price continued to rise higher.
662  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the best Cryptocurrency to Invest? on: September 27, 2018, 12:37:07 PM
Ethereum looks a great option for best cryptocurrency investment. Because right now it is cheap for investment. And if you are buying it at the moment then after sometime later you will make good amount of profit.
Ethereum will for sure go to the moon again this year, that is why as much as possible we should have enough Eth right now because in the future it will have a great value too but still don't forget bitcoin.
but I doubt ETH has a good future after I look at the coinmarketcap ETH has no max supply as other coins. What is ETH has an unlimited supply? so the future of eth will be very bad.
663  Economy / Economics / Re: Why I am quitting ICO's on: September 27, 2018, 12:03:53 PM
from the first time I was never interested in joining ICO. the point described is very reasonable, I consider if I am an investor with small capital. certainly not going to get a lot of profit as offered on their white paper. more ico, which in my opinion is exaggerating about their ecosystem but there is no part of the project work that they actually do.
that's why I also never interested, but I just tried to get it from the bounty, even I think as the bounty hunter sometimes feeling of loss when I get token but it is very difficult to sell, because sometimes they are difficult for listing on the great market, even just listing at a small market and the price is very cheap, so I never imagined for investors.
664  Economy / Economics / Re: DO NOT SELL! JUST HODL - You've not loss any money if you haven't sold. on: September 27, 2018, 10:59:57 AM
Bitcoin dipped to 7500$ and i think now it is danger zone could go to 3000$-4000$ again.
Good chance for newcomers, sorry for those who bought bitcoin at 18,000$ an 11,000$ Cheesy

What do you think? How low bitcoin can go?


Just hodl it
I dont yet need a lot of money so i can able to hold my bitcoin until it's price will back at $20k i will not selll my bitcoin when the price of it will be below $20k, i am holding my bitcoin because i want to sell it with a high price to earn a lot of money.
If you are a person who has a job or at least your life is enough, you can hold up to several years to wait for prices could touch $20k.
but for some people who rely on bitcoin, might be doing their buying and selling according to needs. but the hold still to do, because in the end, the price will rise high in the future.
665  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading or mining? on: September 26, 2018, 04:12:08 PM
for myself trading is more recommended to be the best way, because we know that trading can now be an easy choice and can be done with lots of capital. so I think mining is harder than trading

not hard to do, just sometimes mining requires a large capital and place. so not everyone likes it this way, but profits in mining is passive and losses tend to be no bigger than trading.
While trading looks easy to do with a small capital at all. Although I think trading is quite difficult to analyze because we could lose it just like gambling.
666  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage your profits in trading? on: September 26, 2018, 01:53:40 PM
The income/ profit I get in trading is invested to other altcoin inorder to earn more. I don't usually withdraw an amount of it after trading because as what I see, the market is like a cycle.
Indeed, it is good with that advantage, we can get many benefits as an investment and also increase the portfolio that we will have as our investment
I also do the same.When i have already my profit,i usually buy some cheap but potential coins and then hold them after,and wait for good price to sell them.I just repeat it over and over again because i know for sure it will really give me a huge profit if i'm just patient enough.Just make sure the price you bought the coin is definitely cheaper than the price you sell it again.
but for me, the profit is better saved, because if the profit I traded to another coin the risk of losing is big, so that in the end, we did not have the profit. so it is better we keep trading with the capital, whereas the profits we save for backup or whatever happens going forward.
667  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Ethereum kembali hijau ini saat BUY ? on: September 25, 2018, 11:05:10 AM
eth hijaunya masih sesat saja sekarang saja sudah mulai merah lagi tidak seberapa naik harga eth tidak sperti xrp yang beberapa hari ini sudah naik 2 kali lipat semoga saja semua coin kembali lagi seperti harga akhir tahun lalu
Nah makanya seharusnya beli itu disaat merah dan menjual di saat hijau, bukan sebaliknya ehhehe.
Tunggu saja kalau nanti bakal anjlok lagi baru deh di borong untuk di simpan sebagai aset masa depan.
Sebenarnya untuk koin Ethereum ini kapan pun dibeli selalu bagus kok gan, asalkan sebagai investasi jangka panjang.
Namun untuk di tradingkan secara short time maka kita harus bisa mengintip2 harga nya.
ya benar, untuk jangka panjang harga saat ini sangatlah murah, karena tentu ETH bisa meningkat lagi diatas 10juta nantinya. untuk jangka pendek juga sangat bagus, 1-2 minggu ini pergerakannya sangat enak buat short trade, naik turun dikisaran 3-3.5jt. klo turun dibawah 3jt lagi auto buy harusnya.
668  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Harap-harap Cemas melihat kondisi Market on: September 25, 2018, 09:54:10 AM
Semenjak dari bulan mei kemaren kondisi market semakin memburuk dan harga semua coin perlahan lan mulai turun, Dan hal tersebut juga sangat berdampak besar terhadap proyek ico yang banyak mengalami kegagalan dalam penjualan token mereka, Tapi mungkin di bulan november harga ataupun kondisi market akan mulai membaik lagi gan,

dibalik hal yang buruk pasti bakalan datang hal baik, jadi hanya perlu sabar aja nanti juga bakalan ada saatnya meningkat tinggi, karena alur crypto memang begitu, kadang lagi suram kadang lagi bagus.
intinya jangan menjual ketika melihat kondisi market lagi turun karena pada akhirnya kita akan menyesal. tahun depan sih saya yakin market bakalan lebih baik dari tahun sekarang.
669  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Yang Harus Dilakukan Sebelum Investasi ICO on: September 24, 2018, 12:09:31 PM
ane ada menemukan project yang syarat dan ketentuan projectnya suadah ada seperti yang anda jelaskan di atas, tapi masih bisa scam juga gan, semakin pintar kita memasang strategi, tentunya para pendiri project scam ini juga mempunyai cara tersendiri untuk mengetahui calon korbannya
memang itulah kondisi ico akhir-akhir ini, susah di prediksi walau awalnya terlihat berpotensi tapi ternyata zonk. bagi ane adalah mending tahan diri untuk join atau investasi di ico, tunggu aje kondisinya membaik dan minat/kepercayaan investor pada proyek ico dah muncul kembali seperti saat dulu.
bahkan mencapai hardcap saja tidak ada jaminan untung klo investasi di ico untuk tahun ini. sepertinya memang harus tunggu regulasi baru tentang ico, biar bener-bener berkualitas yang ngadain ico nya. jadi jangat melihat dari rating ico website, banyak rating bagus tapi ttep saja ancur pas beresnya. klo bisa lihat advisornya juga yang sudah pengalaman seperti charlie, projek yang didukungnya selalu bagus.
670  Economy / Economics / Re: Why the price of bitcoin rapidly going down on: September 20, 2018, 02:45:26 PM
I saw this is it happens every year, bitcoin price has always had a phase every year, we can see from the previous years, this year bitcoin tends to fall, because the previous year bitcoin price already increased very high, and I am sure bitcoin price will rise again in the year 2019, could even rise higher after halving in the year 2020.
671  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin bull run begins now? on: September 20, 2018, 02:15:20 PM
I don’t think so, it was a prediction to prepare investors mind that Bull Run will be in 2018, because peoples saw a high rise in December 2017, so accept next upcoming Bull Run.
I think bitcoin will float around 6K to 7K in 2018.

if that happen, maybe this year could be bad moment for all investor and crypto community.but we hope it would not happen and at end of year we will se bitcoin price jump again.

At the present moment we cannot say that bitcoin wont see a bull run or it will make a all time high again. A lot depends upon 31 Sep ETF decision and if there is an ETF acceptance proposal we can again see a all time high rally . On the other side disapproval of ETF will result in the big dump which may take bitcoin down below 5000$ or below. Sad

I'm not sure ETF will make a big dump on bitcoin price, from the initial rejected to postponed there is no effect on bitcoin price. that certainly this year bitcoin will not increase any higher, but my predictions prices will be in the range of 6-8k, since the bull run will happen in the next year.
672  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: HOW TO GET INSTANT PROFIT FROM TRADING? on: September 20, 2018, 01:33:35 PM
ok, im curious about short time trade, how much time for short time 1,2,3 day??
and if within this period, you lose your money, what will you do? sell it (cutlose) or hold it, (but i think its a short time so no reason for hold it for longtime right?)
It all depends on your purpose, if you want to get instant profit and short term trade, you should be ready to lose (cutlose). but If you want to hold, it means your purpose for long term trade.
673  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can you make money when the market drops? on: September 20, 2018, 01:01:28 PM
Trading in a falling market is dangerous. To earn in this market requires a certain amount of experience and luck.
I've never tried it, but it seems like it's very difficult. because most people when the market is down, they hold the coins they have. well, some people also take advantage of this moment to buy their favorite coins.
not difficult, but it's profitable because you will get at a cheap price, even currently most altcoin falls under 70-90%, so you will still profit for the long term because later, in the end, all will be back on the rise.
674  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: best coin for long term investing on: September 20, 2018, 08:25:14 AM
I advise you to invest in Bitcoin and Ethereum. These are the most promising coins for a long-term investment. In my opinion this is the only coin.
Like you I also recommend for bitcoin and ethereum. those are most popular and promising coin so far. the price is also low and I think it would be best decision to enter the market right now.
of course bitcoin and ethereum, It has a large community with the largest volume, so there is no doubt for the long term. top 10 coinmarketcap best choice also for long term investment.
675  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: buy fast and sell fast on: September 19, 2018, 06:22:03 PM
This is kind of a stressfull that you are focused on the price minute by minute to check if it increases even a little and sell it fast. It is also profitable in a way that you earn even a little for a small amount of time. With this kind of market we have, this kind of investing is possible.
Yes , such form of trading it possible but the stress of stick to the computer watching ghr price movement does worth it and I personally don't like spending much time on trading cause lead to lost some time. However, if anyone like the idea of buy fast selling fast such person should use bot  for the trading.
trading like that for me does not require much time, I used to do this when there is a new coin a listing to the big market, the movement is so fast and I can get 10-30% profit. If you want to do this you have to trade on the coin which has the largest volume because it is usually the movement is fast.
676  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which is profitable coin? on: September 19, 2018, 12:15:11 PM
Although the question is simple to hear but answer is not so easy because there are so many coins in the market to treade for short term.But I think bitcoin is unique one among them.
The main thing should be what he’s really heading to, which I believe is HODL and it doesn’t work that way. As for main trading, he should just visit the exchange of his choice and choose from coins that are listed and trade on them for profit, there are lots of altcoins on every exchanges. Trading is best because you’re sure of daily profit if you know what you’re doing.
sounds easy to do, but it was still difficult to determine which coin will be chosen, we must have information if you are trading without a knowledge and free buy any coins, it is just gamble.
at least we need a signal, especially TS want to profit in a short time. Perhaps a TS can search signal in the telegram, I follow some signal and good enough to make a short-term profit 1-5%.
677  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: bagaimana kelangsungan forum BTT ???????? on: September 18, 2018, 03:53:46 PM
ya silahkan aja pindah bro, nah ente sendiri ini apakah user spammer yang make username orang yg menurut ane cukup berkontribusi di local board bahasa indonesia ini om joniboini ini.??
Benar. Theymos juga sudah bilang kalau kalian tidak bisa mengikuti aturan di forum ini, sebaiknya buat forum sendiri atau keluar dari forum ini.
Ane yakin bakal makin banyak transaksi jual beli merit diluar sana, apalagi bagi peternak akun
klo itu entah deh gan pasti ketauan kok kan ada list itu postingngan mana yg di ksih list klo admin atau yg lainnya merasa postingan itu gk berbobot gtu di pastikan dia beli apa lgi yg ngasih marit itu dalam jumlah banyak, ya kita kan di sini cuman numpang aja sebenarnya jadi kita harus menaati peraturan forum ini
lagian kalau saya pikir pikir aturannya justru bagus, karena saya tahu saat ini akun newbie sangat banyak bgt, mungkin sehari yg daftar ratusan atau bahkan ribuan akun baru, dan tentu saya lihat lihat juga kebanyakan hanya mengejar rank dengan cara shitpost. dan peraturan theymos sudah sangat bagus untuk memperbaiki forum ini,, karena pada akhirnya yang benar benar berkualitas akan bisa bersaing dengan aturan yang ada.
678  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: HARGA ETHEREUM DI AKHIR TAHUN 2018? on: September 18, 2018, 03:27:21 PM
Melihat market crypto saat ini yang mengalami penurunan harga dan khusus buat ethereum yang harganya saat ini berkisar di harga 3 jtan dan untuk harga eth di akhir tahun ini menurut saya pribadi berkisar di harga 10-15 jt rupiah sebagai pengguna eth saya optimis terhadap ethereum harga nya akan naik lagi

jangan berharap harga eth di akhir tahun bisa menyentuh 10-15jt, saat ini banyak penambang eth beralih karena merugi, sehingga harga jatuh. selain itu terlebih harga bitcoin sulit untuk naik di atas $10k lagi pada tahun ini, karena tentu harga bitcoin harus di atas $10k lebih kalau harga eth akan menyentuh 10-15jt seperti awal tahun. dimana harga bitcoin naik harga eth juga ikutan naik.
679  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: September 17, 2018, 03:15:34 PM
bitcoin masih sideway belum tau mau di bawak kemana harga bitcoin, tapi dilihat sejarah bitcoin biasa di bulan bulan akhir harga akan naik.. jadi mnurut saya pas untuk di buy ini bitcoin

tapi masalahnya akhir bulan ini ada pengumuman tetang ETF, yang mungkin bisa berimbas pada harga bitcoin, antara ditolak atau diterima, atau bisa saja diundur lagi. tapi harapan saya ditolak atau diundur tidak akan berpengaruh besar pada harga, seperti waktu pengunduran dan penolakan sblmnya.
680  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin may reach $ 20,000 by the end of this year? on: September 13, 2018, 01:35:55 PM
Are you sure you did not make a mistake? If you remove one zero, then your forecast will be very correct.

In December 2018, the cost of bitcoin will be about $ 2,000 and growth will not be for long

Yeah, it's unpredictable market as the price may rise or fall that will depends on the supply and demand of the market. It seems that your prediction could be true but I don't think that this will go down at that level. Even that we had a bearish market I still find buy supports at certain levels that can halt the fall of bitcoin price. I just hope that those buy supports is enough to prevent the bleeding.

in my opinion, it is not possible at the end of the year will reach $20.000. bitcoin will back touching above $20k between the next year, but even more convinced it will happen in the year 2020-2021, where the next halving occurred and bitcoin price will increase. I don't think bitcoin would fall under $5k, if that happens it will not be too long.
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