...ComputerGenie why do you actually consider only the lows to be the real market? And concerning that 750 sat low, it's one of two things: Either it's a glitch in the chart, or, more likely, is related to the hack that happened back in the days when KMD was listed on cryptox.pl and some entity generated fake coins and dumped them there. That's actually the least rational value of that chart. Even if we assume that the 750 is a data anomaly and we pick another March date (or even walk it back further to the Feb 2017 that were much higher than March) as a replacement, the overall trendline doesn't change much. When you take out the "noise" of the entire space suddenly "mooning", alt inversion to BTC in Sept., and non-normal actions that December brought, you're left with something that may "look like" cherry-picking lows; however, early Dec is a near perfect retracement on any trendline one places from pre-June '17 to now. Every non-noise trendline points to upward movement. We could argue all day if that movement is 2x BTC, 3x BTC, or 12x BTC/USD (depending on points of data and/or valuation), but the fact remains that all markets suck right now in comparison to some historical date. Since we're stuck trying to swim with the BTC rock around our necks, one could ask why it's sunk to less than 1/3 of what it was 6 months ago and dragging those tied to it with it. The reality is that no matter what conclusion you come to or what your basis for evaluation is, it's always going to be provably wrong in someone else's view because every bit of it is based on multiple markets daisy-chained together that sometimes move together, sometimes move independent, and sometimes move as a complete inverse and and no time has any rational explanation as to why which is which.
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I don't think so. For instance, March 14th 2017 shows that KMD was around 30k sats. Not the 750 sats that you stated (I don't think KMD was ever close to being this low). Also, what makes you say that June 21st 2017 was during an irrational market? Is the market not irrational today? Are the dates that you specifically picked not irrational? Just wondering.
See above for the 1st part of how you're wrong. As for the rest, between May 15 and June 15 2017, nearly every market irrationally "exploded" to new ATH levels. The majority of the markets today are still overvalued and the dates that I picked represent a realistic trendline that ignores both irrational and hype spikes that don't matter to any long term value.
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I think ComputerGenie was off by a zero. I think he meant 7.5K sats. KMD all-time low is 3K sats with an all-time high of 93K sats, according to CoinMarketCap.com.
Stop trying to think; you're apparently not good at it: image.ibb.co/eVH3x8/Untitled.png
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...Where did you obtain those numbers? They don't seem to correlate with what's on CMC...
Then you CMC wrong, because that's where the chart and numbers came from (although I added the physical trendline). ...I'm simply just comparing today to exactly one year ago to make a point that even though KMD has advanced so much tech-wise, the price has gone the opposite direction in terms of BTC. ...
And, like I said, you're starting from a point in time that was still an irrational market and not taking that into account.
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Yup, not even real just virtual.
LOL the bunny is fun to play with, but impossible to take serious; I'm still waiting for him to sign a message with an addy that holds "seven figures".....
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...it ain't 10x no more bro
so true, it's only at 37x for the last 15 months ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif) Komodo Komodo (KMD) $1.79 USD (-5.04%) 0.00026719 BTC (-4.43%) ... Looking at a 1 day market (half of which is a 3 market pseudo value) to compare to a 15 month quote? how do you even manage to tie your own shoes? Kindly go back to your troll-hole and stay there with your unSafe friends....
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...it ain't 10x no more bro
so true, it's only at 37x for the last 15 months ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif)
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[...a ton of dumb shit...]
What, exactly, did Komodo do to piss in your bowl of ZERO coin? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone dumping their bags at a loss because they have an issue with 1 GUI out of the dozens of platform projects; I promise that when the market goes back up, I'll spend the profits you're giving up on so many nice things for myself. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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[...stuff...]
Part of what you're not taking into account is that all markets went, pretty much, insane just before the time of your base comparison. Once you get past that, you should ignore the pseudo USD price of combining mutiple markets to arrive at a "price" that's not truely a legitimate value. Now, let's look at real markets: March 14, 2017 - KMD/BTC - 0.00000751 April 14, 2017 - KMD/BTC - 0.00011952 Dec 11, 2017 - KMD/BTC - 0.00018155 June 20, 2018 - KMD/BTC - 0.00027889 Plot it all on a realistic trendline and you get: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimage.ibb.co%2FgBmgH8%2FUntitled.png&t=663&c=JP3ZNnemlw7VqA) Even the massive "crashes" that amount to nothing more than realistic corrections end up on an upward trend.
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If out of bounds on this thread I apologize. I just can't find a good discussion or answer to the following. Since there are many Halong references in this thread and they are a primary group of workers here I ask. Can someone tell me what is the max ambient room temperature it is safe to run a dragonmint T1 (or cluster of them). I am currently using 85° F as the cap and become frustrated not being able to run all my miners. Is 85° the correct cap? All input appreciated.
I'd assume that, just like bm miners, the ambient is relative and less important than the rate at which output air is removed from the room.
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Since I don't eat lamb (you can't buy it within 100 miles from here), I say tomatoes get the credit. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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...Make model, purchase date, total price, delivery date...
Only a hobby miner, like you, would think that anyone besides an accountant has those details and only a dumb hobby miner would think that a real miner would give out such details. How about you go back to your little unSafeCoin troll-hole and leave the adults to talk....
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OK, so the secret to high-yield blocks is that I need to be out in the garden planting tomatoes. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) If this holds true, this year's crop might get replanted a couple dozen times. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Will the team fight with Asik Z9 mini,A9 ZMaster?.....
There's nothing to "fight". - More hash = more security.
- dPoW protects the chain(s) from all of the "issues" that lesser coins have when they FUD all the lies about ASICs being "bad".
Would like to hear you're opinion as to "why" you think ASICS are not bad for mining please...enlighten me. Would you like me to start with: - the fact that there are more ASIC chip producers than GPU chip producers (which actually nullifies most of the "Bitmain making ASICs will lead to centralization" claims, especially given that 1 of the 2 GPU chip manufacturers halted production months ago),
- the fact that you can get an entry level ASIC for cheaper (and at a greater profitability level) than a "top end" GPU which is 1/14th the hashrate and consumes ~ the same amount of energy,
- the fact that increased hashrate increases network difficulty (which in turn increases security),
or is there some specific misinformation you'd like me to dispel?
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...I still use 0.3.4 version for mining ZCASH, how much does this version improve on the performance compared to it ?...
This miner doesn't currently support the same K & N values that version does ("* Solver for equihash 200,9 has been deleted.").
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We get it man, you are pro ASICS. This topic does not concern you, you just spam here to do what exactly?
I'm pro-mining, anti-misinformation, and my GPU investment dwarfs my ASIC investment.
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Short answer, impossible, 144.5 requires a larger amount of ram that the ASIC machines do not have
And how much RAM do they have?
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...the other side of the coin is promoting decentralization which is easier to do with GPU's that the "common man" still can barely afford compared to FCFS ASIC's that only "rich capitalist farmers" can buy...
Misinformation upon misinformation upon misinformation. - The security of a blockchain should never be whittled down to something based on what some random burger flipper making minimum wage can afford to mine with.
- If the above does happen, the lie that an $871 ASIC is "too expensive" for entry should be pointed out
- If you see $871 ("ASIC's that only 'rich capitalist farmers' can buy") for the same hashrate as a $12,000 GPU setup ("that the 'common man' still can barely afford") as how it is, then you can't math.
- The decentralization of 3 ASIC chip manufactures is greater than the "decentralization" of 2 GPU chip manufactures (one of which hasn't made any chips in 6 months and the other which is widely not supported by these new changes); because, math!
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...Block Party!!!...
Never party before it's locked in ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Edit: "solvedby": "36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V", "date": "[2018-06-19 21:34:12.302]", "hash": "00000000000000000001d396a0e884983548206d22d70d15f2bc225a62b7633f", "shares": 6651091335447, "diff": 131.0 confirmed by 528,273 Now we can party. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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