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241  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 12, 2017, 10:44:08 PM

If religions are bad, then all things of people are bad. Why? Because some people simply focus on one thing, while others focus on other things. Tesla's religion of math and electronics was bad?

Jesus didn't say much after His crucifixion. But He said a lot before it. The things He said before don't entirely match the things He said after. Why not? There was a change made in the relationship between man and God at the crucifixion time. Even so, Paul's sayings are not going to match the things Jesus said before the crucifixion.

The Bible needs to be understood according to the whole theme of the relationship between God and man during the time that any of it was written... if one wants to understand it properly. Christians who apply O.T. stuff to themselves, often apply those things incorrectly, because they are not of O.T. times.

Cool

Yes !

Need to see the reaction of characters in the context.

In this sometime it looks written like platonic dialog. More like story with meaning to be understood through the interaction of two characters rather than mere accurate recollection of historical facts.
242  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 12, 2017, 10:26:58 PM
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In the O.T., and according to the sayings of Jesus, the two main laws were:
1. Love God above all things;
2. Love your neighbor as yourself.

He said about other commandments as well. Those are the mains, but not the only ones.

In my opinion the main message of the Christ is: Law is to protect not condamn, and we are to share with pleasure not to take because of fear we won't have for later.

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In Galatians, Paul said it differently:

To be honest? I am a little bit doubtful about the Paul apostolship. He often is contrary to Jesus words.

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Stop talking about evolution. Even if it was wrong, I showed you many more examples of how science works. You haven't showed any examples of how religion works, therefore science explains and knows things better than religion. Do you not agree with that?

What do you mean how religion works? Religions are bad. The contact with the one God is good. He had helped Tesla to make the computer you are using, by inventing most of the effective ways to transfer electric power on large distances and many other devises used in pcs.  I am fairly sure you would not use your electronic devise if not him.

Well... Tesla would agree with me if you would ask him about the God part. He told that in his interviews.

He may have but that doesn't count as proof. There are plenty of people saying ghosts exist, do you believe in ghosts? What about aliens and other claims. You haven't proved that God exists in the first place. Saying that god helped tesla is meaningless when you haven't even proved his existence.

What do you mean by the God that others says to exists ?

It seem you come up with your own non sensical definition of god, and put your definition in the mouth of others.
243  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 12, 2017, 08:01:41 PM
Have we made cars, planes, medicine or any technology based on religion? No, every technology is based on science and guess what, IT WORKS. You are typing your retarded shit thanks to science, not religion. Religion did not make computers. Do religious people go to the hospital when they are sick or do they pray and wait for god to heal them? Wake up to reality, religious nut.

You mean like Ford the nazi or mon santo ? :p

It works, ok, to a degree, what's the result of this, other than ressources being over used, people used and abused, making toxic shit, tons of waste ..

And something "working" doesnt mean really "science" .

Science is not about building machine, but understanding law of nature.

Can build stuff that works without being scientist.

There is always the deus ex machina for the engineer but it looks a bit bulky :p



when they don't know what to say

and have completely given up on the play

just like a finger they lift the machine

and the spectators are satisfied


It's magic  Cheesy
244  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 12, 2017, 07:41:41 PM
https://youtu.be/18gNYQEReT4

SON OF SATURN - BABYLONIAN MAGICK ft MORBIUS

 Shocked Shocked
245  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 12, 2017, 07:21:42 PM
Yes they seem to have in common some beef with corruption of knowledge and way of rulership by the latest pharaoh and babylonian Kings.


http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/Elohim/elohim.html

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/Eloha/eloha.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim

The issue of yaveh, elohim etc seem bit more confusing in old testament than new Smiley

When taking from hebrew it doesnt seem all that clear if they are always speaking of same one god, or reference to concept and myth /  deities of older things.

It look similar to how egyptian and babylonian gave different name of lesser gods to amon or marduk to give semblence of unity in the kingdoms, or to make different laws or making into one belief. Kinda like the devas in hinduism, being responsible for different aspect of the manifestation of the world.

Sometime in old testament the God seem more personnified, sometime it's more like the one god. Seem to depend on the context.
246  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 12, 2017, 03:51:29 PM
The thing is the bible is really two version between old and new testament.

It could be argued that they are speaking about two different gods.

In the first testament they mention elohim that is a plural, and it use lot of references to older myth, and inspired from other myth.

Can be wondered if old testament is really even about the "one god" that much.

But it's inspired from kaballah, and fundemental axioms from tree of life, the concept in both science and relation in the principle of rest/motion, active/passive, emission/reflection, potential/energy, even the concept of archangels, as active principle of creation and all this come from older things like kaballah, egypt, etc.

All the fundamental axioms from science also comes from this actually.

On the wholes thinkers of the so called enlightment century, none of them get to axioms or theory with that level of universality and fundementalism. Or they are just rehash of older things.

And if there one area is really still out of "hard science" it's really biology or evolution. The amount of actual science as in universal axioms and law, metrics or algebra valid all the time in those domains are very slim, if not inexistants.

Most of what actual science do today is burning forest to make energy, doing war for oil, ruining the planet to exploit natural resources, make war to exploit natural resources, when it screw up like Mexico oil spill or fukushima, nobody know how to fix it ..

Or then calling people stupid and ignorant, unable to admit when they cant answer something ..
247  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Outlawed: Get Away from Bitcoin or Be Imprisoned! on: August 12, 2017, 03:02:11 PM
The question was still rised with p2p before, they could never outlaw it ..

At worst they would make a legal framework to restrict the use, and mostly arrest big centralized Hub of criminal activity.

I dont think they can outlaw it entierely or they would even try after the p2p fiasco. .

If they want to stop it, they would use smarter technique than outlawing it.

More discrediting it, or trying to disrupts it in a way or another.

248  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: August 12, 2017, 02:09:30 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protoplanetary_disk

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accretion_disk
249  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: August 12, 2017, 12:06:05 PM
The new normal in France...




Yeah, cops are crap, politic are crap, economy is crap,many things are expected to blow in those condition, and it's not really about Islam lol

Remember hollande had like 15% of popularity or something ..

There are radical group from all sides, ecologist, left wing, right wing, suburb ..

If macron dont do miracles there is going to be a mess ...

There are burning cars and stuff even in places there is no migrants. .


Get a clue of what France is today out of youtube and faux news ..

It's the country of the revolution  Grin

Everyone become a terrorist

https://youtu.be/qkvDcLn0KD0 Cheesy
250  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: August 11, 2017, 09:49:49 PM
I can tell before there was the attack in bataclan, there was surely a huge tension in the suburb, nothing visible, but I had super bad feeling few day before, and everyone even the "gangsta" were super shocked lol it rised the level horror and violence one degree higher than usual, nobody really condone this stuff.

There was a guy who came to install optical fiber few days after, he was muslim I can tell the ambiance was super weird, he didn't say a word lol

It's so weird those attacks i tell you it's fishy as hell lol

Attacks against cop or police station, it's kinda common thing, with all the mess with the super crap police in those place, it's kinda usual thing the fight with police and stuff.

But suicide bombing like this in Paris for nothing at all, in concert place, killing only innocent, the big rampage like that, for no benefits, totally crazy. . Same with the nice truck attack ..

There is no benefits with this, no monetary gain, not even really clear revendication, leading to much more police, more house searching, more right on phone taping etc ..

Everyone know it's better to stay under the radar as much as possible to make money with some stuff or another, and staying away from police inquiry . . .

This plus the media all the time covering stuff, not saying the whole story, just very short head line blaming Islam radicalism, incoherencies all over the place, many fact not told etc etc

Sounds really weird stuff ..

Illegal migrants just want to make money and stay under the radar as much as possible. .



251  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: August 11, 2017, 08:37:26 PM
It´s in their blood dude nothing that we can do about it.

Sure. You pulled that out of your ass ? Lol
252  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: August 11, 2017, 08:24:34 PM
Truth #1 statstics based on ethnic or religion are illegal in france we dont have official statstics on this

Truth #2 90% of "muslim" in those area are not more muslim than you and me, they drink alcohol etc they dont give a shit about the coran

Truth #3 90% of "muslim" in those area are refugee from Algeria war, and actually fought Islamism in the side of France during Algeria war. They see radical Islam even more as a pest than most french or american who just know this from faux news.

Truth #4 lot of french are actually racist, there is always high degree of discrimination from police, job recruitment, lot of ressentment actually from both sides due to Algeria war and colonies problem.

There was violence in those place much before Islam started to become the thing after the 9/11 and faux news started to media bombing about Islam all day. Islam was never mentioned as the source of the problem before.

Most of the people involved in the bombing are not even muslim. The guy from nice, merah, etc, none of them were specially muslim. They eat porc, drink alcohol, go in clubs, they know very little about the coran actually. Each time they say "He radicalized alone in 3 weeks" after they are shot dead, end of the story.

Most of them involved in the attacks have history of psychiatry , criminality, familly problem, they are not part of organized muslim community, more associal criminal with psychiatric problem.

The connection with Islam is really very moot, and the problem exist for decades and it only started to become because of Islam after the 9/11.

France is also very atheistic country, and the cursor for considering someone as religious might be more sensitive in france than in any other country.

Media fabrication more than anything.

253  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: August 11, 2017, 05:31:24 PM
Atheists are less aggressive than those who believe in God. You know at least one case when the world war began on the initiative of atheists? The religious wars of the middle ages gave way to the Islamic wars of today. All this is done with God's name on his lips.

Marxism ?

French revolution ?

Napoleon ?
254  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health and Religion on: August 11, 2017, 04:49:38 PM
Socrates argued that the soul is what makes a body alive. Death occurs when the soul ceases to animate the body.

Then tell me, what must be present in a body to make it alive?
Soul.
Is this always so?
Of course.
So whenever soul takes possession of a body, it always brings life with it?
Yes, it does.
Is there an opposite to life, or not?
Yes, there is.
What?
Death.3

Scripture defines death as the separation of the body from the spirit.

As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead. James 2:26 (NIV)

http://www.pursuit-of-happiness.org/history-of-happiness/socrates/

The first argument Socrates presents concerns the analogy between health in the body and justice in the soul. We all certainly prefer to be healthy than unhealthy, but health is nothing but the harmony among different parts of the body, each carrying out its proper function. Justice, it turns out, is a similar kind of harmony, but among the different parts of the soul. Injustice on the other hand is defined as a “sort of civil war” between the parts of the soul (444a): a rebellion in which one rogue element—the desirous part of our natures—usurps reason as the controlling power. In contrast, the just soul is one that possesses “psychic harmony:” no matter what life throws at the just man, he never loses his inner composure, and can maintain peace and tranquility despite the harshest of life’s circumstances. Here Socrates effectively redefines the conventional concept of happiness: it is defined in terms of internal benefits and characteristics rather than external ones.

The second argument concerns an analysis of pleasure. Socrates wants to show that living a virtuous life brings greater pleasure than living an unvirtuous life. The point is already connected with the previous one, insofar as one could argue that the psychic harmony that results from a just life brings with it greater peace and inner tranquility, which is more pleasant than the unjust life which tends to bring inner discord, guilt, stress, anxiety, and other characteristics of an unhealthy mind. But Socrates wants to show that there are further considerations to emphasize the higher pleasures of the just life: not merely peace of mind, but the excitement of pursuing knowledge, produces an almost godlike state in the human being. The philosopher is at the pinnacle of this pursuit: having cast off the blinders of ignorance, he can now explore the higher realm of truth, and this experience makes every merely physical pleasure pale in comparison.



http://www.roangelo.net/logwitt/logwit86.html



But ethics is practical. You must find the ways of looking at things that help you. Our aim through the study of ethics is, after all, to become good human beings (contra Aristotle's disinterested account of ethics; "Nothing too much" -- e.g. nothing to excess in either direction, neither over- nor under-estimating one's own ability -- was a Greek proverb, to which Aristotle gave his own application, although I don't see that pointing out that courage lies between cowardice and foolhardiness, which is a point of grammar which anyone who speaks the language knows, is helpful to ethics), for otherwise ethics is idle. For Albert Schweitzer, love -- that is, reverence for truth and reverence for life and a particular picture of the kingdom of God -- was the way of looking at things that was serviceable to him. But that may not be the way for everyone: in our world the same tree may to different individuals yield good fruit or no fruit at all or even do harm.

Socrates' "virtue is knowledge" (Our life must be guided by thoroughgoing use of reason and self-watchfulness to reform the bad habits formed in the past through ignorance of the good) is one of the ways of looking at things that I myself use in ethics. Another is Schweitzer's "reverence for life" (The good is whatever is beneficial to life, the bad whatever harms life). Another is the Gospels', in Augustine's words, "whatever is not done from love is not done as it should be done". The sayings of Epictetus are also very useful to me.
255  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: August 11, 2017, 04:28:50 PM
The origin of this struggle is more history of free masonery against the catholic church.
256  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: August 11, 2017, 04:05:32 PM
Youtube is more intermediate than source, they dont produce content themselves, like facebook.
257  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: August 11, 2017, 03:45:47 PM
Yes it's social sélection through conditioning ..

Braid & games , and fake gods and politic sophistry for the one who are bit smarter than the average hooligan Smiley
258  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: August 11, 2017, 03:42:33 PM
Car burning in france made him do it...  Wink

Nothing to do with Islam then ..

More about brainwashed nut like you relaying usa war propaganda from faux news ..
259  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: August 11, 2017, 05:23:57 AM
Besides NASA, find out some of what the rest of the "Gang of 33" have been up to:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=freemason+false+flag

Some creepy stuff about the bataclan attack that I dont often see mentioned lol

It's happened on an friday 13. First time in a while the first friday after halloween was 13.

It happened at republic place, and in street going up the temple street, full of templar and masonic historical thing in those street. Friday 13 is day were templar were killed.

Kinda creepy lot of coincidences lol
260  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are terrorists only muslim in religion? on: August 11, 2017, 12:22:07 AM
Japanese ideology is from shintoism.

This thing is always product of some form of brainwashing by military entities. Such as samouraï.

And they did horror in china before the Pearl harbor thing you heard in faux news.

Japanese attack on Pearl was pretty standard surprise military attack, BUT...

Kamikaze attack subs and aircraft, suicide bombers, have striking resemblance to standard Islamic terror methods.

Japanese WWII (and pre WWII, in China) use of torture and barbaric methods is also similar.

For me i studied the history of such thing,  and it started with nazi era, the first to develop this sort of intensive brainwashing for military it's the nazi.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werwolf

Another brand more oriented with jihad like things.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wolves_(organization)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wolves_(organization)#Outside_of_Turkey

Can see those are involved in all the "hot place" of Islamic jihadis, often against communism, and have ties with NATO & cia.



Strange connection as it's known nazi were interested in budhism too. Shintoism is a branch of budhism.

After those nazi have recruited by kgb & cia, to do this stuff in south America. Same thing of ultra violent brainwashed drones "contra".

Then same stuff passed over to Saddam, iranian Shah, afganustan as same technic of "contra" .

For me the story goes like this.

Now probably rogue elements from Saddam government are behind the ISIS brainwashing.

This link from archive.org is crazy too, I checked some informations from it, most of it seem legit stuff.


It was same stuff with Vietnam, apparently it's also there cia started to do experimental stuff to make soldier more aggressive or
more prone to carry inhumane actions, and various stuff of "mind control".

https://archive.org/stream/MonarchTheNewPhoenixProgram_441/Monarch_djvu.txt


FOUR:

MKULTRA:

Soviet and Chinese Brainwashing techniques:

MKULTRA USA 1953:



CIA CULTS: Intelligence agencies have infiltrated and created some satanic groups,
with the resurgence of groups of this type beginning in 1966, with the birth of the Church
of Satan, founded by Anton LaVey. LaVey studied criminology in S.F. and worked in the
SFPD crime lab, he also worked as an informant for Interpol. Prior to the Church of
Satan, LaVey ran a group called the Magic Circle. LaVey's most famous associate is the
NSA's General Michael Aquino. At the time of his membership in LaVey's group Aquino
was an Army specialist in intelligence and psychological warfare. In 1973 he became the
executive officer of the 306 th Psychological Operations Battalion contemporary with his
founding of the Church of Set. (Kieth pg 129)

General Michael Aquino wrote, "From PSYOP to MIND WAR: The Psychology of
Victory". Aquino's thesis stated that enemy population could be subdued by inflicting a
state of psychological terror and feelings of imminent destruction. He discusses the use of
psychotronic weapons or electromagnetic weapons that influence the mind. Capitulation
could be induced without firing a shot by extremely low frequency (ELF) signals
piggybacked on broadcasts of radio, TV, or microwave communications, to influence and
manipulate the thoughts and feelings of the target population. During the 60's he was
prominent in the Church of Satan and a close friend of Anton LaVey, until he started his
own Church of Set.




Aquino admitted to renting the
German castle where the Nazi SS was formed and re-enacting the secret ceremony that
founded the Nazi SS, among fellow spooks decked out in full Nazi regalia. General
Aquino is now one of the highest-ranking officers in the NSA, along with General Black
and General Hayden. (Kieth) It is important to note that Michael Aquino is first and
foremost, a military intelligence officer with over forty years experience in
counterinsurgency/infiltration operations. General Aquino, General Stubblebine, Col.
John B. Alexander, Harold Puthoff, and others are involved in an

infiltration/counterinsurgency operation aimed at destabilizing the Constitutional centers
of power in the United States. These cults and other cause oriented groups have been
started or infiltrated by Aquino and his associates in order to control large numbers of
people. It should be noted that all of these cults are closed systems with their own belief
systems that are insular and separate from the reality that most people take for granted.
These individuals are used to engage in anti-social acts that members of the greater
society would not contemplate, including satanic ritual abuse (SRA) programming and
organized gang stalking. The following cults are linked to Aquino or his associates in the
intelligence community.




This one also depict mental state of japonese soldier, a little bit more weird in the theory, but it show this sort of stuff at play.

http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/repmind5.html


 those stuff are directly inherited from nazi "scientist".


Most of the jihadis and ISIS it seem close to this sort of stuff.
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