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2401  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE]New ERA - VOIP WALLET -100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon on: November 23, 2014, 01:37:39 AM
HEY

Consider this my first (and hopefully last) FUD remark. But one based on my legitimate concerns.


I think you need some sleep and eats and either lay off the booze or have a drink and relax!


+1

You need to sleep harold and eat something.

Hey!
We said that already!
WE really need to get on the "same page"...
LULZ!!!

I'm laughing at myself as well since I know how it feels!
2402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE]New ERA - VOIP WALLET -100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon on: November 23, 2014, 01:28:33 AM
HEY

Consider this my first (and hopefully last) FUD remark. But one based on my legitimate concerns.

It suddenly hit me…

MikeMike. Are u Eurbids?
Eurbids. Are u Pala?
Pala. Are u MikeMike?


I believe u could be all one & the same.

You react to each other and complemement each other and sound like eachother like ONE.

Hmmmm…

How can u disprove me? Nobody realy knows any of You(3), right?

 Cool

p.s. 2 of you have pm'd me with similar tone

LMOA!
 Shocked Roll Eyes Tongue

I think you need some sleep and eats and either lay off the booze or have a drink and relax!


This ones for you! ... all in good fun...

What "we ARE ONE" is that we are true supporters of KoreCoin and are looking
for the best possible outcome.




It's truly amazing what the corruption and P&D's and crap coins have done to trust...
Very sad.
Not to say it has not effected me in similar ways because it has.
2403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE]New ERA - VOIP WALLET -100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon on: November 23, 2014, 01:19:47 AM
snipped...
Cheesy Use that 90k to put Kore on the Wall Street Journal!  Cheesy

Finally we have some money for marketing, campaign etc.!!!

Kore just had a terrific marketing campaign.
Posts on nearly every alt and coin news service
as well as on Google and Yahoo Finance.
2404  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE]New ERA - VOIP WALLET -100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon on: November 23, 2014, 01:08:56 AM
90k moved to Escrow Account:

2405  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE] New ERA - 100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon - TOR - DICE on: November 23, 2014, 12:51:31 AM
Thoughts and concerns are one thing.
Your plagiarizing of them is another and is what you have been doing.

No-one said Kore VoIP will be centralized and there are plans to make
it decentralized. One step at a time.

Do you know what plagiarism means?
To be clear I express my own thought & concerns.

"No-one said Kore VoIP will be centralized"


Really? The Dev did one hour ago

…KoreCoin 3.0 will going through a local dedicated encrypted VPN.


This is my last comment in this thread. I do not wish to be accused of FUD. Anyway _ I'm OUT!




I think you might be wrong in leaving. I never thought VoIP was tor. I am sorry you did and I am sorry you lost money and i understand your pissed. I was to but for different reasons. If you sell now you will lose for sure. The biggest problem I saw here is the lack of communication coupled with graphics spam pertaining to Kore from azure mikemike and paula. They mean well but cut communication off which makes it impossible for anyone to follow. I think the first page should be the info and all this just be discussion.

If you didn't dump ubove 10k you should ride it out, put your coins in a wallet and stake then forget about Kore completely for a year.

I no longer think it will die but it may continue south for a while. (Speculation)

All I can say is there has been more progress and information in the last 18 hours than the last 3 months. I for one do not feel as worried and see the direction where bids wants to go. T hat was not the case until all the spam stopped and communication started again.

I would like group chat built into the wallet with chat enabled with 1000 or more Kore staking. Could be a good place to keep rolling communication and updates and live support.

Maybe we should spam national news and scare some reporting on Kore beyond the crypto community. Think outside the box and stop caring about other exchanges and crypto articles.

I think that 1 image/24h is ok and is not a problem.

Yes a group chat is a god idea (Chat features is in program)

Eurbids and I talked about group VoIP etc. months ago and he always said IF he can do it he will.
that was his goal in using "Jabber" and he stated so.

Eurbids and I discussed the possibility to need a certain balance months ago and IF so it will be
done when the time is right and he decides to do it.

Having the key posts on the first page or first two pages IS IMPORTANT for
NEW Investors since the OP page is out of date.

So those who've been here and complain about it,... RELAX.
2406  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE] New ERA - 100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon - TOR - DICE on: November 23, 2014, 12:43:14 AM
Thoughts and concerns are one thing.
Your plagiarizing of them is another and is what you have been doing.

No-one said Kore VoIP will be centralized and there are plans to make
it decentralized. One step at a time.

Do you know what plagiarism means?
To be clear I express my own thought & concerns.

"No-one said Kore VoIP will be centralized"


Really? The Dev did one hour ago

…KoreCoin 3.0 will going through a local dedicated encrypted VPN.


This is my last comment in this thread. I do not wish to be accused of FUD. Anyway _ I'm OUT!




I think you might be wrong in leaving. I never thought VoIP was tor. I am sorry you did and I am sorry you lost money and i understand your pissed. I was to but for different reasons. If you sell now you will lose for sure. The biggest problem I saw here is the lack of communication coupled with graphics spam pertaining to Kore from azure mikemike and paula. They mean well but cut communication off which makes it impossible for anyone to follow. I think the first page should be the info and all this just be discussion.

If you didn't dump ubove 10k you should ride it out, put your coins in a wallet and stake then forget about Kore completely for a year.

I no longer think it will die but it may continue south for a while. (Speculation)

All I can say is there has been more progress and information in the last 18 hours than the last 3 months. I for one do not feel as worried and see the direction where bids wants to go. T hat was not the case until all the spam stopped and communication started again.

I would like group chat built into the wallet with chat enabled with 1000 or more Kore staking. Could be a good place to keep rolling communication and updates and live support.

Maybe we should spam national news and scare some reporting on Kore beyond the crypto community. Think outside the box and stop caring about other exchanges and crypto articles.

Kore is a Community driven coin.
Ideas are welcomed but the talent to put them in action is appreciated
so we do the best with what we have.

Since there is a roadmap now a new OP is being considered and was considered
for after the ALPHA v3 release but there were delays.

Though your observations are appreciated and points taken
the thread frequent posts of key features and info is used as the OP
page and will continue till the new OP is posted.

Discussion is not hard to follow as there is not much of it.

I suggest direct posts to Eurbids on the thread concerning any of your concerns
and questions etc rather than "mainly others" who are PM'ing me.

Though PM's for tech, ideas and personal discussions are more than welcomed.

Best~

NOTE:
I and others have been in discussion on topics of decentralization tech
and trust-less tech.
Nearly every ANON coin has some quasi centralized points.
They dress it up with fancy words etc. as with their versions of TAILS
which Eurbids and I had a conversation about soon as Tails was announced.
Might want to consider UBUNTU may be compromised as well...
There are reasons certain articles are posted.

THE DIFFERENCE IS:
Is that Eurbids tells it like it is and does not give you a BS line
about Anonymity as most others do.

Best to the Kore Community and Eurbids efforts.
 Smiley
2407  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE] New ERA - 100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon - TOR - DICE on: November 22, 2014, 11:44:58 PM
Thoughts and concerns are one thing.
Your plagiarizing of them is another and is what you have been doing.

No-one said Kore VoIP will be centralized and there are plans to make
it decentralized. One step at a time.

Do you know what plagiarism means?
To be clear I express my own thought & concerns.

"No-one said Kore VoIP will be centralized"


Really? The Dev did one hour ago
Quote
KoreCoin 3.0 will going through a local dedicated encrypted VPN

This is my last comment in this thread. I do not wish to be accused of FUD. Anyway _ I'm OUT!

My bad!
lol!
Meant farcialize.

Did the Dev say a "single server"?
No he did not.
2408  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE] New ERA - 100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon - TOR - DICE on: November 22, 2014, 11:11:31 PM
Q. Is the audio encrypted before it is sent through Tor so that it may only be decrypted by the recipient? Extra info on this appreciated


Where are you read that VoIP going through TOR ? VoIP cannot going through TOR because TOR don't support UDP packets.

VoIP at now going through TLS and in the KoreCoin 3.0 will going through a local dedicated encrypted VPN.


This is not good.

I misunderstood ur tech from the beginning.
All your spiel about TOR and the calls dont traverse it? I must have been an idiot.

I'm out.

You do not understand: It is not technically possible to run (existing) SIP server/PBX systems over TOR.  Nobody can do it, because TOR does not support UDP (which is what such systems make use of.)  The solution needs to be "something else", and that is what Eurbids is saying he is working on, because it will be a first(!)  What can, currently, run through TOR is other information which is relayed using TCP/IP.  KoreCoin does make use of TOR TCP/IP connections, which is what can be expected.

What's important to take away from these facts is that Eurbids realizes the challenges to keep the VoIP on the cutting edge of ANON Tech., Has a plan and has mentioned some of that plan.
He tells it like it is which is rare in the alt world. Most are used car salesmen.
2409  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE] New ERA - 100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon - TOR - DICE on: November 22, 2014, 10:43:59 PM

Ah, Eurbids has already replied.
 Smiley

Yup, that is correct.  The Dev never stated that VoIP works through TOR.


What happened was someone made that comment that the VoIP went through TOR and
became adopted without clarification.

I think Eurbids statement about the calls being ANON was misunderstood it being ANON through TOR.

DOES NOT MEAN the calls are not ANON.
The Calls Are ANON just not through TOR.
2410  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE]New ERA - VOIP WALLET -100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon on: November 22, 2014, 09:34:48 PM

Eurbids,

Could you release the 128k to the Escrow address or at least 5-15% of it so we can
do some promotions etc.

Let me know IF you want to be listed as one of the 3-required signers to release coins from Escrow
and I will have the Agent change the agreement.


90k of 128k sended on the address KQiGXVetfUVqpaa97aFoY2FDcc2rK3wmbd with TX ID f94c390df78b89d064a98f948911c03d9361a979641e339b1ffc29dfd1f2927f


Wow!
I was not expecting that much.
We will use it wisely I promise.
Coins will NEVER be dumped and only trickle sold
if a sale is required.

I will notify the Escrow agent to open his wallet so the transaction can go through.

Thanks Eurbids.
2411  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE]New ERA - VOIP WALLET -100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon on: November 22, 2014, 09:23:46 PM
Escrow Agreement:
The escrow is to hold all KOREcoins and BTC to be used only for marketing,
website design and other KOREcoin related projects and compensate for expenses.
 
If there is a dispute on the release of any funds between any of
the signers and the other party, the escrow will enter a phase of
public arbitration.
 
A minimum of 3-Signers are needed to approve release of coins.
Signers for release approval may be added/removed at any time.
 
Total Signers:
zaintariqs
L.M
Azure
MikeMike
 
 
KORE Donation Address:
KVJ8AJgLqTpB7s1B9YJMZJ6NMMYwtm7gQm
 
BTC Donation Address:
1Ka9hpVeVHtoA6RMoHZ4VGFiRc72og8GQ8
 
 
 
If KORECoin ceases to exist or there is no way to convert it back to BTC,
the Escrow Agent is not held liable.
Donations shall be refunded to the donors after 4 days if the party doing the work resigns
or can no longer fulfill that responsibility and a replacement is not able to be found.
 
Additional Notes:
1- You have the option of sending a PM to the Escrow Agent with the
    amount of KORE sent plus a   Return Address just in case.
    This PM Must be sent within 5-Minutes of the KORE Donation.
2- Though BTC transactions are able to be refunded to the address
    provided in the Blockchain you can also send
    a PM noting your Donation Amount and copy of the transaction
    within 5-Minutes of the BTC Donation.
3- KORE can be converted to BTC at appropriate times as most payments will be in BTC.
    BTC can be converted into KORE as need be.
4- This Address KQiGXVetfUVqpaa97aFoY2FDcc2rK3wmbd
    is solely for the illegitimately mined KORE Coins.
5- If KORECoin ceases to exist the KORE Coins in the illegitimate account Will Not Be Sold and
    only after all other sales of coin holders will it be contemplated to be transferred into BTC
    for distribution to any unpaid bills etc. and then to an account for grievances
    and after that Donation to a Charity.
6- Separate Public Ledgers will be provided to show
    where every payment/coins went and what for.[/b][/color]
7- Escrow Agent Link:
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=79720


Link to Signed Agreement:
http://pastebin.com/Gu2CpqRu

NOTE:
I did my best to obtain all the 129K and was only able
to get Eurbids to transfer 90k to the escrow account.
2412  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE]New ERA - VOIP WALLET -100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon on: November 22, 2014, 09:22:27 PM

Eurbids,

Could you release the 128k to the Escrow address or at least 5-15% of it so we can
do some promotions etc.

Let me know IF you want to be listed as one of the 3-required signers to release coins from Escrow
and I will have the Agent change the agreement.
2413  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE]New ERA - VOIP WALLET -100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon on: November 22, 2014, 09:19:45 PM
just a few more questions for you eurbids


1)will you be releasing any of the promised upgrades to kore 2.0
2)will you implement the messenger?
3)will you be working with the koreteam to implement the code for Korephone so they can get landline to address working?
4)will you be implementing a proper buddylist/phonebook for kore voip?
5)will you be able to implement conference calls?


please be specific as your answer as they will be the deciding factor on whether some of us stay to help build the community, or instead jump on the train with the competition while we wit for the KORE 3.0.

also remember that if there are to many broken promises the community will have a hard time trusting that there will be a working 3.0 to jump on in 6 months.


1. OSX version is already fixed. Buddies working fine without presence and SMS that it's a server problem, wallet is ready for it.
2. yes
3. no, korephone it's a MikeMike and Kore Team project. I've not part in this.
4. look the one
5. conference calls it's a interesting feature. I will look about it


Tell me you now, please, what is this "many broken promises" ? I've jumped only a one release, not more broken promise in my history.




Eurbids,

Are you saying that IF you are given code that won't take much time for you at all to allow the KorePhone to call wallet addresses that you will not do it?



But of course I will do it. But my priority and my work is on the wallet. I wanted to mean that I don't write code (firmware) for korephone.




Excellent!

That's what I thought and I do want to say to You and the Community
Many many things get mixed up in translation so it's best to try to clarify
something IF you think it's incorrect so though difficult at times it
might be a good approach to let some possible misunderstandings
slide till clarified.

Thank you Eurbids.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend!
2414  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE]New ERA - VOIP WALLET -100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon on: November 22, 2014, 09:08:06 PM
just a few more questions for you eurbids


1)will you be releasing any of the promised upgrades to kore 2.0
2)will you implement the messenger?
3)will you be working with the koreteam to implement the code for Korephone so they can get landline to address working?
4)will you be implementing a proper buddylist/phonebook for kore voip?
5)will you be able to implement conference calls?


please be specific as your answer as they will be the deciding factor on whether some of us stay to help build the community, or instead jump on the train with the competition while we wit for the KORE 3.0.

also remember that if there are to many broken promises the community will have a hard time trusting that there will be a working 3.0 to jump on in 6 months.


1. OSX version is already fixed. Buddies working fine without presence and SMS that it's a server problem, wallet is ready for it.
2. yes
3. no, korephone it's a MikeMike and Kore Team project. I've not part in this.
4. look the one
5. conference calls it's a interesting feature. I will look about it


Tell me you now, please, what is this "many broken promises" ? I've jumped only a one release, not more broken promise in my history.




Eurbids,

Are you saying that IF you are given code that won't take much time for you at all to allow the KorePhone to call wallet addresses that you will not do it?
2415  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | Betfloor | viorTrade | Bittrex on: November 22, 2014, 09:04:11 PM
Who's the manipulator with the huge sell wall?!?



bot?
trex is all about having trade bot doing the job Cheesy

IMO it's well known Bittrex has bots on every coin and
the objective is to get enough coins first of all to control the "Momentum".
Once that's achieved they then have the ability to guide the price
and price range at near will.
At times however you can force the price out of their bots control.
Sometimes with violent payback but such is life.

Kinda sucks that CC's are subject to the very manipulation and control
that Satoshi Nakamoto was driven to eliminate with the invention of Bitcoin.

If you ask me the banksters are manipulating Bitcoin and the alts to
secure their future since it is a real threat.
2416  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE] New ERA - 100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon - TOR - DICE on: November 22, 2014, 08:34:25 PM
I think that the "6 months or a little before", is only the "total time" necessary for complete "KoreCoin3.0 - The Evolution" project (Anon Marketplace,  stealth address, Telco Gateway, embedded secure browser, embedded secure mail, etc...).

I think new features will be released on the way.

I'm interested too about KoreCard and Poba.


Yes we could hope so but clarification from Eurbids is Key.
He did mention KoreCard was progressing...and the
PoBA Code was well underway being written.

What may make sense for us to be implemented first etc.
may be completely different from what's first in line
for Eurbids.

He did say he was evaluating which direction to go and has
today made that "End Goal" direction known.

With the KorePhone Proof of Code getting close it and with
Eurbids release of just one or two features could be instrumental
for Kore Adoption by the general population till Kore 3.0 is released in it's entirety.

MM


Regarding Price:
It's worth noting that the scam coiners out there have
no desire for a real honest coin to fulfill what the Goal is:

100% ANON in all aspects. Just because it's what people should have.
This fact would put them near out of P&D business with their scam coin after
scam coin releases at much much higher prices to detract from the fact there
are real earnest efforts by real earnest people trying to get a real ANON coin together.
To "Do it right" is no easy task and there are a few that are trying and Kore is one of them.


2417  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE]New ERA - VOIP WALLET -100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon on: November 22, 2014, 08:20:37 PM
just a few more questions for you eurbids


1)will you be releasing any of the promised upgrades to kore 2.0
2)will you implement the messenger?
3)will you be working with the koreteam to implement the code for Korephone so they can get landline to address working?
4)will you be implementing a proper buddylist/phonebook for kore voip?
5)will you be able to implement conference calls?


please be specific as your answer as they will be the deciding factor on whether some of us stay to help build the community, or instead jump on the train with the competition while we wit for the KORE 3.0.

also remember that if there are to many broken promises the community will have a hard time trusting that there will be a working 3.0 to jump on in 6 months.

Eurbids,

Even the Implementation of KORESurf till messenger or other features
could be released would be sufficient to Kore being a sought after tech.
allowing people to surf the net through TOR with just a click of their mouse.

Just a thought...

MM

EDIT:
Good to see the Community get involved and the open communication on the thread.

Cheers!
 Smiley
2418  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE] New ERA - 100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon - TOR - DICE on: November 22, 2014, 12:50:02 AM

what is the point to sell now? Don't have any sense.

Are there updates in sight soon ? Did i missed something ?

Asked the team for information but only receive weird answers with zero information..


Just to set the record straight...
There were No Weird answers from me
and plenty of informative constructive information
of what could be said was given.

MM
2419  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE] New ERA - 100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon - TOR - DICE on: November 22, 2014, 12:48:57 AM
Richlist still down? That has to be the easiest of the broken promises to fix, promised back up "soon" September 2nd...Maybe all the rich list have been dumping causing this epic crash. I know I said i wasn't going to post here anymore but if there was ever a place to say one thing and do another this is it.


http://blockexperts.com/kore

why cant the link on the kore site be fixed?

Ask Eurbids.

That's what i am doing...and what i have done.

Excellent!
 Smiley

However IF you reply to his post on the thread there's more a chance
he will see it.
2420  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE]New ERA - VOIP WALLET -100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon on: November 22, 2014, 12:12:33 AM


Ideas Welcomed for Graphics, GIF's and Promoting of the KorePhone Smart Phone.

bump...

I second that BUMP!



 +1



BUMP
 Smiley
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