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2401  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: September 25, 2016, 08:21:09 AM
A smart way is to manage the bankroll properly. It needs experience and its difficult as well since emotions get in the way. Of course it is their hard earned money - and in that case you should never gamble at all. Still a smart method is to cash out while still on a winning streak.
controlling yourself that's right mate withdraw while you are in winning streak then move away that's how you can win
with the house if you stay for little more you will be tempted to gamble again and lose everything.
There are many people who make a living off of the gambling industry; if there weren't people who profited, then there would be no gambling industry at all.  The key to being a successful gambler is to only wager on events when the odds are in your favor.  That requires a working knowledge of probability. Learn the math and gamble like the house does. They win and so could you!
yeah your opinion makes sense , there a lot of people successfully make money through gambling for years and having no issue , those people are who have found the 'key' . and the key what i mean are a wise action in spend money to gamble and rule it with mananging bankroll , sounds simply but it's hard actually to do.
2402  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: September 25, 2016, 08:11:16 AM
Is their any safe methods to gamble? Means without losing much of our money can gamble?

Any tips or suggestions?

Yes! there is man.. I would recommend you to ease up betting money try small amount of money for that you can play in the safe side if you cant do that because you want to have more money to win just plan you're gambling game because if you plan you can be safe at that to save more money or play cheap gambling game to save enough money and play another game to win but still you have a lose in gambling and you learn something from that losing of yours ^_^
placed small bets amount doesn't mean you are safe to gamble , in my opinion no matter how much amount you bet and how much multiplier you choose , the result would be the same you lost to the house edge. choosing low multiplier and small bets only stalling the time for you to get lost.

using smaller size bets is not only stalling the loss but it offers a lot of other additional benefits.
like:

- when you make smaller bets you are taking smaller risks which means you will have less stress about losing money so with your mind at ease you can think better and come up with better strategies. and also when you lose you won't get depressed.

- apart from that when you make smaller bets it means when you lose you still have  a lot more in your bankroll that you can use to win back what you have lost. but if you bet big, you will run out of funds so much faster.
this sounds like a bankroll management isn't it? and in my opinion that bankroll management is not strategy , it's just like a principle to become having a success in gambling. people rarely care about this and as the result most of them just get a bad impression about gambling.
2403  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 25, 2016, 08:02:55 AM
Juventus and Napoli are win on yestereday matches, but Juventus only can make 1 goal on that match and can't cover the handicap Juventus -1.5 and Napoli win with 2 goals and covered the handicap -1.5
juventus wasn't played as good as last season , even there is additional star player like miralem and gonzalo higuain but still they looks struggle. isn't it's a sign that serie A wouldn't be dominated by juventus anymore? i hope so. people tired watching juventus too often win the league without having any trouble.
2404  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: September 25, 2016, 07:13:49 AM
Its very enjoying and you want to keep doing it, of course its depending on the game but I think the game is making you addicted.
It stays fun for hours so you stay playing it hours after each other.
Yeah thats what i think too, i really enjoy playing in gambling and the thought that you can win makes you more excited regardless of how much you lose thats why its addicting.
I also experience that same feeling too, because the more you are near to win the more it is getting exciting, but when I notice that the game is just giving me hope to win but the truth is I can never win and lose all my money is not really good in feeling. And then I just realize that I need to know some other stuffs that makes me entertain without any risk.
people will always to expect a win and win situation no matter what , that's the wrong thought. but everytime you do gamble you will just back to thinking the same yeah after your winning you think you will get another win, but the house edge beat you as always. only a little piece of fun you get when you gamble so it's not part of why gambling make you addicted i guess.
2405  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: September 25, 2016, 06:50:47 AM
Casino are setup to make sure that they can gain money. And where does these money come from, it came from the gamblers. The games that they have are carefully designed so that the gambler will always be in a disadvantage situation that make you lose most of the time. However, they also dont want to let the advantage to be so big until you see as no hope of winning.
completely right they will allow you to win little by little allowing you to think that you are getting advantage coming from it but for sure playing on a long run will take that advantage from you and start collecting their earning from your money keeps you lose from time to time you play.

Yup, that is the power of probability. There is hope that you can win by luck but the more you play, the power of probability will creep in and drain away all your profit and eat into your bankroll. So trying to win the casino is very hard in the long run and that is also why in this world, there are more and more casino popping out especially in this decade we even had Macau's casinos overtook LA.
things make everyone lost in the long run are when they have not a large bankroll enough and a bankroll management that can adjust between your losing and winning. they gamble blindly and in the end you just got losing more and more.

I think that most gambling methods works that way and even if you had a large amount of bankroll you can not predict the thing to bet on and the rink involve in playing gambling will always be there and for the down fall every gambler will only rely on luck alone! but at least there are certain gamblers that can pretty much handle it than becoming addicted over gambling.
bankroll management hold a key role on gambler's statistics to make a profit or not , i believe on that . as long as people stick to the rules and doing a good bankroll management i guess everyone wouldn't lost in the long run' , just mostly. you could gain a profit steady everyday .
2406  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 25, 2016, 06:44:23 AM
Invest on trading that would be better than investing on amy websites as well as on gambling it can't be profitable because you will end up losing in the long . If you have enough knowledge on trading that wpuld be your advantage and you have to improve it .

But without knowledge trading can be even worse than gambling, and it will require a lot of time and money to get on professional level. Investing in crypto business (like gambling sites or some other opportunities) is safer and easier. In trading you also need to check charts every day and still there are risks of flash crashes.
not worse , but i guess it's equal to gambling if you do trading without doing any research. investment and trading also are two different thing. the point are investment aren't pure gamble , so people should prefer to choose to do invest instead gamble , pretty clear choice.
2407  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: September 25, 2016, 06:37:41 AM
Great win on yesterday matches. All favourite teams are win, Man United, Man City, Liverpool and Tottenham hotspur. I got a big odds on Tottenham ML, in the other hand Arsenal also win versus Chelsea. Props to them.
all favourites teams won their games except chelsea who unexpectedly suffering heavy lost 3-0 to arsenal that actually in the last 6 london derby arsenal can never score a single goal to chelsea , but well this is very interesting . chelsea have a good start in the first 4 games but lost it all in the last 2 games .
2408  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 22, 2016, 10:28:15 AM
Empoli vs Inter
Genoa vs Napoli 
Juventus vs Cagliari   
AS Roma vs Crotone   

big four last season inter napoli roma juventus , all win this match
as roma , juventus and inter milan did their job very well to keep on the champion track by winning with a confident score enough. as roma won 4-0 to crotone juventus also won 4-0 to cagliari , inter milan won 2-0 to empoli . unfortunately napoli seems struggle play against genoa away , they just get draw and it's clearly not enough.

Yeah, it's sucks Napoli can't make any goals on this match. I have bet Napoli -0.5 and a small parlay on Napoli too and it's dead because 1 match Napoli. Juventus have a great win though, 4 goals.
Napoli current squad are good enough to chasing the title of serie A , they just need more time to adapt with a new player like arkadiusz_milik polish striker who have scored 4 goals from 4 napoli matches. i believe this season would be the most competitive year of serie A.
2409  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: September 22, 2016, 10:16:04 AM
Real Madrid, atletico madrid and Barcelona all get 1 point.
Real Madrid 1-1 Villareal
Barcelona 1-1 Atletico Madrid.

That 3 team just have a super rivalry.    TheBig 3 still for them.
this results are deserve for Real Madrid, atletico madrid and Barcelona because even though most people expect Barcelona and Real Madrid won but Villareal and Atletico Madrid as their opponents also is not weak teams however looks like some people at here has won their bets because they were predict for both teams to score for those matches

no i don't think so, real madrid should able to score 3 more goals at least with that a lot of attempt and shots. real madrid not deserve to get that draw but however with barcelona draw against atletico madrid it gives them an advantage to keep leading.
2410  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: September 22, 2016, 09:59:57 AM
Is their any safe methods to gamble? Means without losing much of our money can gamble?

Any tips or suggestions?

Yes! there is man.. I would recommend you to ease up betting money try small amount of money for that you can play in the safe side if you cant do that because you want to have more money to win just plan you're gambling game because if you plan you can be safe at that to save more money or play cheap gambling game to save enough money and play another game to win but still you have a lose in gambling and you learn something from that losing of yours ^_^
placed small bets amount doesn't mean you are safe to gamble , in my opinion no matter how much amount you bet and how much multiplier you choose , the result would be the same you lost to the house edge. choosing low multiplier and small bets only stalling the time for you to get lost.
2411  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why we must trust with bitcoin? on: September 22, 2016, 09:46:48 AM
With regard to the tech,  I don't see a reason to stop  trusting Bitcoin. The only problem I think you  may have, would be with regard to price  instability, but I believe it's  normal for a currency in  its early stages.
the bad side of bitcoin are it's required internet connection to run , can you imagine how bitcoin transaction could be done when internet goes down? the lights go out? this is serious problem , your trust in bitcoin would just useless. it's wasn't always easy to give a full trust in bitcoin in my opinion.
2412  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: September 22, 2016, 09:40:05 AM
Wow more of those gambling threads I have won 415$ in gambling then lost it quickly after winning it. Quite dissapointing for me.
I have lost way more times with gambling then one but I have accepted that fact because I knew that from the beginning.
I am not sure how people pull if of when they say that they have won more times because it just seems impossible.
the fact that people who gamble always have a mindset like this 'when the dice rolled at under 50 for 6 times in a row , people always think that the 7th would be under 50 next' it was gambler's fallacy. you can avoid that you have that kind mindset isn't it? that's what makes you have lost more than winning. makes sense ?
2413  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: September 22, 2016, 09:22:13 AM
Casino are setup to make sure that they can gain money. And where does these money come from, it came from the gamblers. The games that they have are carefully designed so that the gambler will always be in a disadvantage situation that make you lose most of the time. However, they also dont want to let the advantage to be so big until you see as no hope of winning.
completely right they will allow you to win little by little allowing you to think that you are getting advantage coming from it but for sure playing on a long run will take that advantage from you and start collecting their earning from your money keeps you lose from time to time you play.

Yup, that is the power of probability. There is hope that you can win by luck but the more you play, the power of probability will creep in and drain away all your profit and eat into your bankroll. So trying to win the casino is very hard in the long run and that is also why in this world, there are more and more casino popping out especially in this decade we even had Macau's casinos overtook LA.
things make everyone lost in the long run are when they have not a large bankroll enough and a bankroll management that can adjust between your losing and winning. they gamble blindly and in the end you just got losing more and more.
2414  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: September 22, 2016, 08:39:36 AM
I would open a casino. That's my final answer.
That is straight to the point, and I think that is a good idea, to open your own casino is the best answer, because if you really want your money to grow this is the best thing to do. I think I would also do the same, and also do some other business that I think will work.
the more money you have the more frequency and amount to bet you would wagered. it's basically what would happened to a guy like me. as gambling have been ingrained in my blood and i do really love to gamble no matter things have changed.
2415  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: September 22, 2016, 08:27:24 AM
simple answer, because greedy i think
Greedy is always there when it comes in gambling but every people has their own percentage of being greedy, greedy sometimes is surplus, so that other people get out of control of playing gambling especially when they win once they wanted to play again and again.
being greedy sometimes give you a benefit yeah like a YOLO bet winning but you must realize mostly this greedy will only bring you to the bad thing. the happy feeling and the thrilling of how extremely easy to make money by playing a game make people frequently come to a casino to gamble and test their luck , as time goes by it's turn to an addiction.
2416  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: September 22, 2016, 08:16:52 AM
No strategy works in the long run, all the strategies fly away and we are left with losses in the end.
I am still gambling on smaller bets with higher odds on soccer games, as there are possibilities of such games to turn out a winning one for me.
I make much bigger with my bets and can afford to lose few against them until I get into a 1:1 position.
risking small money to get high return are a good betting strategy but you have a very small chance to win it too , it's not worth for you to make money through gambling but it's morelikely should treated as a fun bet only , i know there is someone in my place bet $15 with an odds over 1100x on his betting slip , and he won it! he never expect his bet will win but he just got lucky. so , any strategy shouldn't called a winning strategy right? just an ordinary strategy

if this is happen to that person then its should not called a strategy but its like having a good luck when he play gambling and he can get big win. this is not happen to other people, only few people have this experience and this people will have a big luck to play gambling.
no sorry i didn't explain explicitly before , he was used a strategy in his big parlay mostly in football , like placed bets on an away teams half time so he can get a bigger odds and not needed to have a lot of event involved in his parlay , only 5 to 6 or 6- 7 events only . but that time he was very lucky to hit an odds over 1100.
2417  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 22, 2016, 07:53:43 AM
I really recommend investing,  instead of gambling. If you research,  you can see that many people  got broke gambling, there are  rare exceptions of people who succeed in it for a long time.
Investment is better, no doubt about that, but you need money, knowledge and more but you must not forget that a lot of persons got bankrupt too by bad investments, so we should invest with precaution.
Both are equally good or bad,depends on the time and your brain's obviously.How do you think the rates of bitcoin are calculated ? You could hope as much as for your next roll similarly for the market to go up the next day.
gambling are clearly about staking money with a consequence the stake amount have possibility to dissapear to zero. it's different when you do invest you don't have that possibility to lost the whole amount you stake. only few percent if there is a loss. so for me gambling isn't a good choice as long as you can do investing.
2418  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: September 21, 2016, 11:14:19 PM
The bank is safer but with the bitcoin wallet you can way better make profit because its the bitcoin.
Its just how you are wanting to spend your money and if you want to take some risks the bitcoin can be controlled by yourself.
no i guess the bitcoin are more safer 10 times than the banks , as in bitcoin it's decentralized means all money (bitcoin) you have are held by yourself and controlled by yourself , not to the third party like what banks did. so what else makes you prefer to choose bank instead bitcoin wallet?
2419  Other / Off-topic / Re: I spent all my saving on bitcoin, now i am broke on: September 21, 2016, 10:58:13 PM
So this guy bought bitcoin when the price was about $450 and now that they are $600 he's broke? lol

he is a lucky person and he also saw a price of $750 in the mid of the year so he got about 80% or more profit with that bitcoins. But I think he is saying it because he have buried them and is unable to use them for his needs. He should have to keep them in his living wallet.

The problem is that we don't know how everything is right now. Perhaps he sold all his coins to secure profits. Perhaps that his coins, or the majority of it are still untouched. An update from OP would be a welcome thing here.
op last active was today , would be nice to get an update from him right? but since he is planning to save the 5 bitcoin for very long term saving in bitcoin , i guess he just keep his bitcoin underground . the 'broke' that what op means are due he has spent the whole fiat money saving to buy bitcoin and buried it. so i guess he just have a great plan Cheesy not the real broke.
2420  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: September 21, 2016, 10:47:50 PM
No matter we win or lose, we will always come back, one possibility is we have addicted to gambling. The other is we want to cover our losses or win more money dur to greedy.
This is the perfect reason many gamblers will come back again to gambling. For me, first of all, i am not addicted to gambling, and I will play gambling very rarely. Why I will play gambling means to kill my free time and for my entertainment, i will play gambling.
yeah i think when you don't know the reason why you keep gambling and always back to gamble it's actually a sign of addicted to gamble already. you just too enjoying the pleasure and didn't realize you are addicted. so the fun thing that at first time just to kill your free time mostly would become an addiction due this fun factor.
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