How much earlier than promised were Jupiters delivered?
None. They were late, even though they were using a tried and true 28nm process. 20nm is brand new cutting edge process. No way is 20nm going to be early. |
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So you agree with the title of this thread then, that "Someone is trying to intentionally tank Bitcoin price". I rest my case.
It is not important who, or why. Just that they are.
Of course it is being manipulated! Why wouldn't it be? |
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Bitcoin is fantastic for a whole lot of things, but Point-of-Sale doesn't seem to be one of them.
There are ways to improve PoS, but the PoS has to be smarter than simply accepting any zero-confirm transaction. It needs to analyze the network and the transaction: how well it is connected to peers, if it sees any malling/double-spending of the current transaction, if a fee was included, if there is a chain of unconfirmed inputs, etc. |
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The title of this thread is "Someone is trying to intentionally tank Bitcoin price".
That assertion is absolutely correct, and it has been happening for weeks. Massive DDoS attacks on most pools, most exchanges, and now an ongoing "Transaction Malleability" attack.
Yes! It is clear that someone from the other side is not happy about the existence of Bitcoin.
Not necessarily. It could just as easily be someone who loves bitcoins, and is ready to buy a bunch at a great price. I for one am loving the price drop. It's allowing me to stock up on more bitcoins! |
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Malleability? Hahahaha, the fucking admins stole all of it. What kind of idiot would put money into that website is beyond me.
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Fuck me!
No thanks. We CAN put this NDA thing to rest right here, right now.
Sure, call Verisilicon China and ask. |
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Do you realize there's only 600,000 available transactions per day total? If everyone who downloaded bitcoin.exe was getting daily payouts, there'd be no room for actual peer to peer transactions. Everyone who uses bitcoin cannot be a miner.
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Hello gurus,
I am interested in where currently are BFL with their promise to start serving cloud mining contracts (10.83$ for GH/s) in January/February 2014?
My order is from 23.11.2013 and it is still in status Processing.
Thank you !
You've been around here a while. You should know by now that BFL *never* delivers when they say they will. |
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Hey!
With the fall in value with BTC, what kind of dollar per GH/s prices are you looking for in bitcoin miners?
I'm looking for a little under $5/gh right now. Of course that's for something delivered in the next week or so. |
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Exactly... and thus, your "stability", by your own words, is erratic, just like the two 1.0THs runs they showed on the chart. They only did two runs on that account. The other runs were NOT 1.0THs. That whole chart is various boards being added and tuned, and tested.
Yes, they were able to run it stable about two hours. So they snapped a quick video and it hasn't been stable since. That's extremeley discomforting to see. |
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If the pool graph looked like this...
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and not this...
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That would be "stable" results... (The top one)
Since AMT hasn't shipped, I can only assume you've never mined before, so let me explain some mining to you. Shares submitted to a pool occur based on a random distribution. If you showed a flat-line chart like the first one you drew, I'd know you had faked the chart. A true "stable" chart is going to have a good +/- 20% variance and look like the second one you drew. |
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Or did you not see that video?
The video showed they started up, reached 1 TH for the first time, then quickly ended the video. You can almost hear the guy in the background whisper, "quick, shut it off before it burns up". The pools stats clearly show, they are unable to maintain 1 TH for any reasonable amount of time. Surely, you got that chart from someone with that miner running, which is "confirmed" as running at only 1.0THs... or did you just pull up one that was close to 1.0THs and assume it was actually a 1.0THs miner? Not too many of those out there... None that I recall. Except the one being created now.
Doesn't matter if it is 1 miner or 1000 miners. You tried to blame the pool for the stability problems noted in the Bitmine chart. This part: No you showed how mining in a pool that is constantly DDOS attacked, and rapes it's users, does not reward 1.2THs, it only rewards about 862GHs...
Don't blame the pool. Bitmine's inability to maintain 1 TH is their problem, not the pool. |
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Lol.. I did, 3 months ago.. 2 months ago.. a month ago.. Several of us did, the folks who didn't preorder, and some folks recently who cancelled. BTC at $1k/USD with a conservative difficulty, Neptunes would never ROI (regain the BTC spent), unless they were delivered by March-April. May pushed you into "youd get most of your BTC back but not all". Beyond that it was just dead weight.
Don't worry about the difficulty, it levelled off 4 months ago. If Bitcoinorama was still around, he'd tell you the same thing: Dude the hashrate is about to level out for a bit not, continue growing like this for a while.
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I see that same "stability", in the time-frame just before the last "tweak".. also the same instability... That other miner only has a better average, because it has been running for weeks, with better averages...
LOL. That's the point. Bitmine's miner is not stable, and you cannot blame that on the pool like you tried to do. Love the 600GHs dips, and the 1200GHs spikes... you sure that isn't a stable 1.1GHs or 1.2GHs miner running?
Out of 168 hours last week that miner had 2 hours poor performance. Out of those same 168 hours, the Bitmine miner had 166 hours of poor performance. No wonder Bitmine's demo video only lasted a couple minutes. By the looks, the section prior to the last seems more stable than those other values. Except the last values, which are all over the place, similar to the 1.0GHs miner they are tuning now. Again, that is NOT AMT's miner. Only the same chip.
You're right. That's not AMT's miner. Here's a graph of AMT's miner. _______________________________________________ |
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MBP was and still is focused on building mines. Retail sales has been a great way to involve the community, and initially generated some good capital, though we haven't done anything like the sales of KnC, Cointerra, etc. and in the face of 28nm, our product has become "legacy" equipment already.
Which is a real shame. You have a fine product. It's not "legacy" by any means. The only problem is the price. Since you can't meet the going $5/gh rate, we'll look forward to the next gen. Hopefully that will bring you back into a competitive price range. |
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But my first transaction was mutated, and the mutated version was accepted into the blockchain. This means that the transaction I used to pay for my donut is now invalid, and Waves/BitPay won't get the money (and I've already left the store).
Yes, that is possible, but that's nothing new. Accepting with zero-confirm transactions is risky. |
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We will be posting video proof of our current prototype very soon. We will also post pictures of the entire team in our work space. Please do not jump to conclusions. We will do our very best to provide complete transparency in order to keep our customers fully informed throughout the entire process.
There is no need to make rash assumptions.
What's the address of your work space? |
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No need to sort. Don't forget to check amounts.
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Pretty well done scam. You went too far in this part: With our team of highly-focused engineers we have managed to successfully design working 20nm ASIC processors in fractions of the time of the competition.
Next time stick with more reasonable claims and you'll be able to scam more poeople. |
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