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2421  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Can we sign a message with invalid address using Electrum? on: January 19, 2023, 10:06:53 AM
Firstly, that address is perfectly valid.
Secondly, you sign a message using the private key associated with an address, not the address itself.
2422  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Genesis allegedlly prepares for Chapter 11 bankruptcy on: January 19, 2023, 09:56:51 AM
I mean, they tweeted months ago that they had lost significant amounts of money to FTX:

As part of our goal in providing transparency around this week’s market events, the Genesis derivatives business currently has ~$175M in locked funds in our FTX trading account. This does not impact our market-making activities.

And then a week later, they suspended all loan activities:
Our #1 priority is to serve our clients and preserve their assets. Therefore, in consultation with our professional financial advisors and counsel, we have taken the difficult decision to temporarily suspend redemptions and new loan originations in the lending business.

If those weren't enough red flags to make you withdraw all your money and you've now lost coins due to this bankruptcy filing, then I don't really know what to tell you. I have a bridge to sell you?

Also note that CoinDesk, another subsidiary of DCG, is also being put up for sale. Maybe this might wake up some of the people who bleat on about Coinbase or Binance being safe because they are large exchanges. Well, DCG is huge, and currently two of its subsidiaries are on the brink of collapse.
2423  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Do and Don't for Electrum Wallet on: January 19, 2023, 09:21:58 AM
It's not much, but if someone steals my computer (that happened to me a while ago), the thief will need time to find anything related to crypto on it.
A thief who knows what he is looking for is highly unlikely to just start manually opening random directories in your OS's file explorer to hunt for a wallet. Rather they will just perform an automated search for wallet files, or the Electrum software, or strings which appear in Electrum wallets files, or so on, which will find your wallets almost immediately.

Hiding files like this is false sense of security - security through obscurity, which is a bad idea. A much better idea is to add a strong password to all your wallet files which will encrypt them and keep them safe from attackers. If you want to hide the fact you even have Electrum installed altogether, then either use whole disk encryption or run Electrum directly from a removable USB drive or on a live OS.
2424  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Question about the secret exponent. Fresh out of can on: January 19, 2023, 09:06:23 AM
-snip-
Your posts are become more and more confused and less and less plausible.

BIP125 is to do with RBF. BIP150 is to do with peer authentication. Neither having anything to do with private keys.

The first version of the Bitcoin software in 2009 was 0.1. Version 0.7 wasn't released until 2012.

The genesis block was not mined in 2008.

d28ca5a59b2239864eac1c96d3fd1c23b747f8ded8f5af8161bae8a616b56a1d
The 4 addresses generated by this private key are empty and unused.

483045022100de6fd8120d9f142a82d5da9389e271caaa3a757b01757c8e4faafbf92e74257c022 02a78d4fd52ae9f3a0083760d76f84643cf8ab80f5ef971e3f98ccba2c71758d012102c1642555f 5e633645895c9affcb994ea7910097b7734a6c2d25468622f25e12
The public key from this signature is also empty and unused.
2425  Other / Off-topic / Re: My Journey with Type-2 Diabetes on: January 18, 2023, 04:04:20 PM
Well, I can't say I agree with you. Because I saw a lot of patients take treatment from Homeopathy doctors, and they get cured.
No, they didn't. They had some benefit from the placebo effect, at most. The homeopathy did nothing. Water does not have a memory, and it is insane to suggest otherwise.
2426  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: How secure is a brain wallet with a randomly generated password? on: January 18, 2023, 11:13:16 AM
Brain wallets are never secure. And if you are planning on displaying a QR code of the seed phrase, then the security of your wallet is reduced to only that of your weak human generated password. A recipe for disaster.

Further, if you want to have a QR code on display, then you should use the QR code of the address. This lets people scan it to see that it is a bitcoin address without risking the funds. You should instead create a seed phrase or key pair securely and give the written down seed phrase or private key to your mother to store securely. Then print the QR code of the address on to an object as you desire.
2427  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Iancoleman users I want answers on: January 18, 2023, 11:04:30 AM
Open website in your browser and save it on you computer, than disconnect internet and generate seed phrase safely and write it on paper.
You should download and verify the source code from Github rather than save the website from your browser, since you don't know if the website is actually running the published source code.

This includes bitaddress.org should be used on your offline device to avoid getting compromised, it should always be "prevention is better than cure"
Disconnecting your computer temporarily is completely insufficient in terms of security. There is nothing stopping malware already on your device from altering what Ian Coleman will display, or saving anything you enter to file and transmitting it to an attacker next time you connect to the internet. At a bare minimum, you should use a live and amnesic OS such as Tails as Loyce has described above. Better still is to use it only on a permanently airgapped device which has been formatted and had a clean Linux OS installed.

I would also note that in general using any website which relies on Javascript is a bad idea for generating entropy. Ian Coleman (airgapped!) is useful for exploring a pre-existing seed phrase, checking different derivation paths, etc., but I would never suggest using it (or any other website, even if airgapped) for generating a wallet.
2428  Other / Off-topic / Re: My Journey with Type-2 Diabetes on: January 18, 2023, 10:41:32 AM
My question is can diabetes be brought under control by homeopathic treatment?
No disease can be brought under control by homeopathy. Homeopathy is a scam.
2429  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Acquiring bitcoin with cash - what, why, how on: January 18, 2023, 10:34:50 AM
But there is going to be NO perfect stablecoin.
Agreed. So I never use them.

don't forget your bank account. anything going out of or into your bank account that can be audited could be audited.
Also correct. Which is why cash is a popular peer to peer trading method.

well, as a buyer on these p2p platforms, i have a hard time seeing how someone could get scammed. the sellers are the ones that have to be more careful since many of these payment methods can be charged back later on down the road, 30 days, 60 days what have you...there is no seller protection once the bitcoins get released. then you're on your own. so you better hope they don't try and scam.
Again, this is solved by using cold, hard cash, which obviously can't be charged back. There is also the other party's account reputation to consider. Is someone going to risk their account with 1000+ positive feedback to scam you out of a few hundred bucks?

Probably how o_e_l_e_o hasn't been scammed in his many DEX adventures.
Exactly. Start small, choose reputable trading partners, trade with the same person multiple times to build further trust, and don't use methods which are easily reversible.
2430  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Question about the secret exponent. Fresh out of can on: January 18, 2023, 10:30:09 AM
other people can have their own idea of how futile it is but he doesn't seem to susscribe to those ideas so who are we to tell him not to do something like this.
It's not about differing ideas; it's about facts and math. No computer, even one which has the same computing power as every device in the world and is ran for a billion years on unlimited free electricity without any degradation of hardware will find an address collision by random. Advising OP to try is simply a waste of time.

How can this adress 18Q3nJafVex3Gz8KC5yV4h4tHWjAshgsYW
Receive bch last year send out it same day, and be on the file where mine adress is, around 13 14 yrs ago?
All addresses always exist. They are simply an encoding of a public key, and all public keys already exist. Just because an address has not yet received any transaction does not mean the address cannot exist or be generated by someone. I have hundreds of addresses across multiple cold storage wallets which will sit dormant for years or even decades before I ever decide to use them.

Adress is 13A1W4jLPP75pzvn2qJ5KyyqG3qPSpb9jM
You are saying you mined block 100, just a few days after bitcoin was released? I'm skeptical.

Regardless, the 50 BTC there are a P2PK output, not P2PKH, so you can easily see the public key is:
Code:
04e70a02f5af48a1989bf630d92523c9d14c45c75f7d1b998e962bff6ff9995fc5bdb44f1793b37495d80324acba7c8f537caaf8432b8d47987313060cc82d8a93

That doesn't make it any easier for you to brute force the private key, though. If it were in any way possible, those coins would have been stolen at some point in the last 14 years.
2431  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Question about the secret exponent. Fresh out of can on: January 17, 2023, 08:35:52 PM
I can send you couple transactions in raw format if this can lead to something, there is big chance that i may have missed something
There is nothing in a raw transaction which will allow you to calculate a private key (excluding some very rare cases where you have made multiple transactions spending coins from the same address with very flawed software). But since you say your address has only received coins and not spent them, a raw transaction won't even let you figure out your address's public key, let alone anything actually useful to you.

By all means share them if you want, but it's another dead end I'm afraid.
2432  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Remove Your Seed/Recovery Phrase From Centralized Password Managers on: January 17, 2023, 10:29:51 AM
Every Chrome browser users automatically have their password saved by the browser for easier log in later
Then turn it off. Or better yet, stop using Chrome since it is literally spyware.
2433  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Remove Your Seed/Recovery Phrase From Centralized Password Managers on: January 17, 2023, 10:13:58 AM
Removing you seed phrase from a password manager is not enough. If the seed phrase is in the password manager in the first place, then it has been stored electronically on a computer with an internet connection. You should therefore assume it is already compromised. Instead you should set up a brand new wallet with its seed phrase only backed up via pen and paper and move all your coins over to this new wallet.

Additionally, I would advise against saying your seed phrase aloud if you use voice-activated devices like Alexa, Siri, or Cortana. I don't want to sound paranoid in saying this. It's impossible to completely rule out the chance that these gadgets are listening in on our chat and that, in the event of a hack, your seed phrase will be stolen.
Rather than it being impossible to rule out that these devices are listening to you, it has been widely confirmed multiple times that they are listening to you at all times, and what you say is being transferred to centralized servers for storage and analysis. Anything you say in the vicinity of one of these devices is on a third party server somewhere, and you have no idea who has access to it.

Right now I'm using google chrome default password manager but my brother doesn't recommend it so they take me to Bitwarden that they say this was open source
Google were caught storing users' password in plain text for over a decade. I wouldn't trust them with a single satoshi.

I would suggest using KeePassXC or Bitwarden.

2434  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin transaction format and byte sizes on: January 17, 2023, 09:36:51 AM
Thanks for all those info, really useful.
So to sum up, a common P2PKH transaction with 1 input and 2 outputs w.r.t the hashes and signature needs the following:

Input ECDSA signature:  ~70 bytes (64 in taproot)
Input ECDSA public key: 33 bytes

For each output hash: 20 bytes
Not quite. As explained above, you can't just insert the public key or the output locking script on their own. You need to include additional OP codes which tell the software what to do with the data.

For including the public key in the signature, you need to include a byte saying how long that public key is. For a 33 byte compressed public key, you would prefix it with 0x21 (with 21 being the hex representation of 33). So that becomes 34 bytes in total.

For the output locking script, you need to prefix with a byte saying how long the script is, followed by OP_DUP, OP_HASH160, OP_PUSH (20 bytes), then the 20 byte pubkey hash, then OP_EQUALVERIFY and OP_CHECKSIG. This would look like this:
Code:
0x1976a914-PUBKEYHASH-88ac

So instead of just 20 bytes, the whole thing becomes 26 bytes.
2435  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Question about the secret exponent. Fresh out of can on: January 17, 2023, 09:13:59 AM
you'll know it's done when it prints the private key.
It will never be done. The only thing you will achieve with this is burnt out hardware and an electricity bill.

i mean i have made couple in the same day because Satoshi wrote that if anyone sents him a coin he will return 50 in exchange
I'm fairly certain Satoshi never said anything like this. Perhaps you are thinking of someone else, or an early bitcoin faucet? Regardless, any such offer that you see these days is 100% a scam.

Overall i had around 3k+ btc in couple, all adresess were drained except the one im trying to recover now,and one more that have dust only in it. I stopped using it after blockchain was renovated, and moved 90% of my coins in the new adresses
So was the address you are trying to recover created from a brain wallet as you said before, or was it created by blockchain.com? I believe they first offered a wallet service in 2012.

I mentioned how i made the passprasses, and also no the passprasse to this one isn't made like the others, i didn't even rewrite it because i had access before everything to happen and i thought I'd never need to. I think i forgot it even then, bcs the fact i can log in and never thought i might be depending on them
If it is a brain wallet, then I'm afraid that if you didn't make any back ups and you can't remember the brain wallet then your coins are irretrievable.
2436  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Acquiring bitcoin with cash - what, why, how on: January 17, 2023, 09:02:47 AM
i don't just assume it is a scam. even something like bisq, the seller has to send their btc to an address out of their control. and trust the people that run it to do the right things...
I don't think the lending platform itself is a scam by any means. But from a quick look it seems to be that you can only lend or borrow various stablecoins or wrapped/tokenized bitcoin. All of these tokens/coins are entirely centralized, in many cases not backed up fully and running fractional reserve, and also there are no guarantees whatsoever that their price is pegged to USD/bitcoin/whatever. So although HodlHodl's platform is perfectly legit, the coins they are supporting are pretty much scams, as far as I am concerned.

maybe that's why. another reason might be paypal reports crypto transactions to the irs or other government taxing authority not sure if they do but i would assume so.
I would work under the assumption that anything you do on a KYCed platform, be that a crypto exchange or fiat service like PayPal, is easily viewable by your government or tax authority should they want.

anyone using something like bisq or agoradesk is not a newbie and they have their reasons. no one just wonders on to a site like that and starts buying bitcoin with paypal. it's either some or all of those things or they are trying to scam.
Or maybe they just want a bit of financial privacy and not to have their bitcoin under the control of third parties. Which was the entire reason bitcoin was created in the first place. I would point out that I have traded on various peer to peer platforms extensively and have never once been scammed. A few misunderstandings which have been fairly easily resolved, sure, but never an active scam.
2437  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Address reuse is simpler than alternatives and not always bad - discussion on: January 17, 2023, 08:53:44 AM
Reusing an address encourages a sender to go retrieve the address from a list of addresses somewhere that they are maintaining, significantly increasing the risk that they accidentally retreive the wrong address. If they retrieve the wrong address from their list, it will be a valid address and the wallet software won't stop them from sending to it.
It also encourages sloppy behavior. If you are copying and pasting a brand new address you have never used before, you are far more likely to double check it properly than you are if you are copying an address you've used dozens of times before. "This address has always worked fine before, so I don't need to bother double checking it this time." And then clipboard malware means you send the coins to an attacker.

There are some coins I don't want to be mixed together at all, that is why I have labels for addresses and transactions to make categorization in my wallet, similar like I would do with old style cash wallets.
I prefer using separate wallets entirely to prevent the risk of accidental combination of UTXOs I want to keep separate. Easily done by just incrementing the account number in the derivation path or using multiple different passphrases, meaning you don't have to go through the process of generating and backing up a new seed phrase each time.

To be more precise: owners need to protect private keys and chain codes (and indices in some cases) which are kind of a synonym for "extended private keys" (as in BIP-32). Do these terms fit better?
The terms are more precise, yes, but the advice is still misleading I think. As I mentioned above, I don't think 99% of users should ever be handling raw private keys, as it is completely unnecessary for them to do so and it just opens them up to additional risk. Even fewer users should be handling their chain codes for any reason.

Just back up and protect your seed phrase and be done with it. Everything you ever need (private keys, chain codes, extended keys, etc.) can be derived from that seed phrase.
2438  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Question about the secret exponent. Fresh out of can on: January 16, 2023, 05:38:27 PM
this lack of sleep and constant worrying for sure do have huge impact on me, i haven't took a nap in 4 days, I realise i have to take a break, but this is frightening me because i think i found algorithm in everything im trying, like a heavy gambler, other incoming bills are worrying me, just can't lose time in sleep rn, because i may end up worse if i do lose time
This is clearly affecting your mental health. As BlackHatCoiner says, step back, get some rest, and approach things with a clear head. What you are trying at the moment is serving no purpose except to stress you out more and dial up your anxiety levels.

although about the brain wallet, for each walled I made i did a paper list back up by order, wallet 1 had 30 words passprasse, 2 had 60, and go so on paper 3 x90, and this is if not the thirteenth wallet it's the twelve, i think i stopped at 90 characters by lenght
Once you've got some rest, then this is what you should focus on. So you think the passphrase for this brain wallet had 90 characters? Or 90 words? What else can you remember about it? Did you just select random words, or did you take words from a book, a movie quote, a song lyric, etc? What about the paper back ups? Did you only make one copy of each? Where did you store them? Any chance of finding them? If you printed the back up rather than write it by hand, could the file still be saved electronically somewhere? This is your only possible route to accessing your coins. All the reverse engineering you are trying on your phone will get you nowhere. Even with the most powerful supercomputer in the world, attempting to reverse engineer a private key is a futile task.
2439  Other / Meta / Re: How many forum members do you know by real name? on: January 16, 2023, 05:29:31 PM
Okay, here's a warning: From now on, every time you see o_e_l_e_o's post, you'll hear Olé  Olé  Olé in your head. Just like me Cheesy
I am not OK with this. Tongue
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