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2421  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 02, 2022, 10:01:35 PM
Maybe President Zelensky doesn't understand that NATO and America, are only good at causing or aiding war, they hardly aid rehabilitation and reconstruction, after the war.

Pledging Armour tanks, Assault helicopters, and Armor tank destroyers is not what matters most, but would they also donate, and bring back the lost infrastructures and economy?
Please no more whataboutism because this war wasn't caused by NATO and US, Russia did. In perfect scenario Russia will have to pay reparations to Ukraine after war to rebuild country. But more likely that locked Russian reserve assets will be used for it.

Zero percent chance. Again, there are a million reasons why that would not happen. Definitely things that do not change "in a blink".

Last time it did:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Ukrainian_War


So what? You really comapre world 100 years ago and current things? Just because something happened between these countries 100 or 200 years ago it doesn't shows that Poland have intentions to invade  Western part of Ukraine. It doesn't even make sense when Poland is giving to Ukraine billions worth hmanitarian and military aid. Maybe relationships between these countries wasn't easy historically, but they have one common enemy.
2422  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season on: May 02, 2022, 07:38:32 PM
Anadolu Efes had a terrible regular season after being the champions last year but in the playoffs they were surprisingly good and after defeating Armani Milan 3-1, they qualified for the Final Four. It is not rather surprising actually because they have a good team and two big stars, after their regular season results I don't think anyone was expecting this. It is of course still questionable how successful they can be in the Final Four but as the last champions, we can still expect a success from them.
It's not something new - Efes had bad start of regular season, but eventually they started to play well and reached Final 4. What is surprising that Barca struggling against Bayern, we will have Game 5 tomorrow. Bayern on paper isn't something special, they don't have big names in their roster. If they will eliminate Barca, it will be huge sensation.
Monaco - Olympiacos is another series which reached game 5. Games between these teams is great to watch and even Kevin Durant liked it. He was in game 4 and planning to attend Game 5 to support former teammate Mike James.
Meanwhile Real didn't had any problems against Maccabi and won 3:0.
2423  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Spanish La Liga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread on: May 01, 2022, 11:19:47 PM
Didn't came to forum yesterday, so better do it now than never. Congratulations to our main Madridista @tomahawk9 with Real taking title officially. Difficult to say these words for me, but well deserved.
About Barca win tonight - finally. It looked that we can win confident, but that Mallorca goal in 2nd half didn't let to have calm ending. Good to see Fati back, I hope that this time it will be for long.
And forgot to say it yesterday - probably it's time for me to stop backing Villarreal even when they play against bottom teams. They simply can't play in La Liga and Champions league a the same time and I'm surprised that they're still in fight for spot in UEFA tournament.

the person who will most likely win the yellow cap in this round predicted four correct scores so far and all of them were 1-1 draws... yeah, someone actually had the balls to predict four draws  Grin  well done! 👏
And probably none of these 4 draws weren't big surprise, but yeah, you need to have some balls to predict four 1:1 draws in one round.
2424  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Spanish La Liga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread on: April 29, 2022, 10:32:47 PM
new round in Spain, and we have Sevilla tonight
they usually perform on Friday, and not on Monday, so home win should be expected, although it is a local Andalusian derby with Cadiz

there is no matches that look as "great to watch" this weekend, but Valencia city derby should be good and duel between Athletic and Atletico as well
Espanyol could use Real position to get a point maybe, what others think?
And offcourse Sevilla failed to win game where they were obvious favorites. Didn't watched game in full. but from what I saw, Sevilla didn't looked much better than Cadiz. If Barca and Sevilla will continue to eprform like now, Real is going to win league by 20 points, what will be humiliating.
Valencia derby should be good - in first round it was awesome game and now Levante desperately need to win to stay in league.
Athletic - Atletico, maybe it won't be most beautiful game to watch, but it sounds interesting.
2425  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 28, 2022, 11:14:42 PM
It's a false statement that US soldiers are not involved in this conflict:
It's not secret that there is some US troops fighting in Ukraine. Same like troops from Poland, Georgia, Canada and even Russia and Belarus. But they're not part of regular army, it's veterans, volunteers or so called foreign legions

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Are you sure you know the origins of the conflict?
In late 2013, Ukrainian President Yanukovych suspended negotiations with the EU in favor of strengthening relations with Russia.
After that, mass protests began in Kyiv.
In February 2014, Yanukovych was ousted from the presidency.
In April 2014, the residents of Donetsk and Lugansk declared their independence.
In response, Acting President in Ukraine Aleksandr Turchynov announced the start of an "anti-terrorist operation" in eastern Ukraine.
You can read a brief background of the conflict, at least in the Britannica.
I remember origins of conflict very well. Independence of Donbass and Luhansk, recognized by no one, backed just by Russia with their army in region. It's same like referendum in Crimea.
2426  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Italian Serie A ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread on: April 28, 2022, 10:58:01 PM
I'm just reading about buway and LTU not getting good service for UCL, I'm shocked this is happening. Are you guys in Europe? I always assumed so since you seem to be able to watch games.
Yeah, from Europe. I think that if you live in big European country like Germany, Italy, Spain, or like Trofo who live in Balkans where sports is big thing, watching it isn't a problem, but all these services costs good money.
In my little country sports coverage never been on great level. Just few years ago just some selected games from EPL, La Liga or UCL were shown on TV, so, they didn't left other choice than to look for illegal streams. Now with OTT services things is getting better, but there is lot of room for improvement. For example they give just 3-4 Bundesliga games with commentary  each round, delay from real time is close to 1 minute and so on.

I am paying for my internet (flat rate, 500/250 optic)+ TV all sports package about 50 EUR per month. That includes Sportsclub 1-10 and Arensport 1-10 which are local sports channels. I have most of the games from Premier League, all games from Serie A, La Liga and Croatian league, all games from Champions League and Europa League, most games from conference league. Also a lot of games from Belgium, Portugal and Serbia but those I am not watching.
Sportklub and Arenasport is good channels, I wish to have something similar in my country. I'm paying about 15 EUR for decent internet and I would have to pay about 20 EUR for subscription to get all sports included (TV3 Sport, Viaplay and Setanta), but I'm not satisfied with streaming services, especially Viaplay.
2427  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa Conference League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Semifinals! on: April 28, 2022, 09:07:27 PM
I also hate that Europa and Conference league semifinals is played on the same time. Both Conference league semifinals were very attractive teams to watch, but West Ham - Eintracht were my first pick on priorities list.
Leicester - Roma, 1:1 result probably resembles game very well. More or less it was game of equal teams.
Feyenoord - Marseille it was awesome game, sad I didn't saw this game in full. Interesting stats - Feyenoord made 2 shots on goal, but somehow scored 3 goals, I don't know how they count stats Cheesy. Important Feyenoord win at home, but 2nd game is going to be great too.
2428  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Semifinals! on: April 28, 2022, 08:57:16 PM
Damn, how good Eintracht is. After all, it's just mediacore Bundesliga team, but they kicked out Barca and now they had very solid performance away and win against West Ham. Before tournament not many saw that this team have potential to reach final.
Paid less attention to Leipzig -Rangers game, but from what I saw Leipzig were more solid.
2429  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosions hit Moscow - backed Transistria territory, Moldova on: April 28, 2022, 09:55:33 AM
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The president of Transnistria’s
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A president of a "country" what is not recognized by any country.  Why are there not more of them?
Wow, Tash said something what isn't lie and makes sense! Something is going to happen probably...
2430  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Italian Serie A ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread on: April 27, 2022, 11:39:12 PM
As I understand today's games were rescheduled from previous rounds because I already had predictions left on it. I haven't changed anything today. How someone in right mind would predict Inter loss against Bologna or Fiorentina at home destroyed by Udinese 0:4. Only Atalanta draw was somewhat realistic, but definitely not 4:4.

This is my main complaint of my current country of residence. There is NO English provider, just a local one. They want you to pay extra for Fox, which I wouldn't mind, if they showed every game (and not even UCL actually). AND they don't even have ALL the games, plus their broadcast isn't even the fastest (about several seconds more delay). The worse is sometimes you get the dreaded Switch version where they just run through all the games, and badly, when goals are already scored.

I went through this last years already, hunting IPTV shit and what nots... so sad there's no (legal) provider exists except these fools... I've been tempted for some time now to get an (not so legal) tv card/dish... Dazn arrived finally a few months ago but? Only boxing. Haha.
I understand your problem very well. In my country this season Champions league broadcasts moved from TV to streaming service and it's terrible. It's expensive, poor quality, not even Full HD, just 720p,half of games without commentary and these with their picked local commentators - better don't hear it. And on most important games it start lagging, so, this is why I always prefer traditional TV over streaming services. So, I don't have other option than to use some IPTV, so far it works well.
If local services don't satisfy you, maybe it's worh to try something with VPN, DAZN for example. I remember from EPL thread hilarious mentioned that he use it.
2431  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosions hit Moscow - backed Transistria territory, Moldova on: April 27, 2022, 11:21:20 PM
Interesting things happening in Transistria. It's likely that it was some kind of provocations from Russia side to justify potential invasion. It kinda reminds things in Crimea and Donbas 8 years ago where Russia justified their actions by saying that Russian populaton there was opressed.
But I don't see which scenario with Transistria would be real. Attack Ukraine from Transistria? With 1500-2000 troops and mainly old stuff remaining from Soviet Union times? It doesn't sounds like plan. More likely that Ukraie would try to liberate this region.
I think that Putin would like to open land way to Transistria through Ukraine, but it would be difificult, considering how much progress they made in over 2 months.

On the other hand, can we be certain that Putin has showed his full potential? Russia is supposedly one of the largest military superpowers, while it appears that Putin is ahead in the war, he seems to be struggling, it took weeks to conquer Mariupol.
Nope, that's not their full potential. But they simply can't send whole their army to Ukraine and leave other regions uncovered. Then they would have to make martial law and announce mass mobilization, what would raise some questions in society about why this ''special operation'' have failed and haven't achieved initial it's goals.
2432  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BitcoinNews.com's UEFA Champions League Football Preditor Pool Discussion thread on: April 27, 2022, 08:59:09 PM
Yeah, comparing yesterday's game with this pne - it looked like Europa league game. Though, probably it was worthto expect something similar.
For Villarreal it was difficult to achieve positive result with parked bus. After all, they're not Atletico to defend that well. Even against Bayern they weren't so defensive. Things isn't over yet, but Liverpool is one feet in the final now.
2433  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 26, 2022, 11:27:40 PM
Ukraine has been actively preparing for its attack on the Donbass all winter. There was a lot of talk about the possibility of a Russian invasion, but however, it turned out to be a complete surprise for Ukraine, NATO intelligence simply overslept it. The genius of Putin's strategy lies precisely in the fact that, according to the military canons current as of February 2022, it was technically impossible - too small forces participated in Russian military exercises near the border with Ukraine and NATO intelligence did not take this threat seriously. This gave Russia at the start of the operation the staggering advantage of a surprise strike from which Ukraine still seems to be in shock.
I'm not sure where did you got that Russian invasion become surprise for Ukraine, NATO and West. IIRC, few days before inavsion, USA intelligence warned that inavsion can begin at any moment, on 23th February state of emergency started in Ukraine. Though, Ukraine admitted that they didn't expected invasion in North, from Belarus side.
And I'm not sure why you're saying about too small forces, when there was close ti 200k troops near to Ukrainian border.


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Putin’s famous long table, which has already become a meme, was used by him only for face-to-face dialogue with those politicians who refused to take a test for covid-19 to Putin’s doctors (apparently out of fear of giving Russia their DNA sample). This is a common precaution during a pandemic, if you have not forgotten about this word. Politicians who agree to and successfully pass this test are much closer to Putin, including direct physical contact through a handshake when appropriate.
And lonng table is in action again Cheesy. This time in meeting with António Guterres.
Though, Putin used long table in meetings with local officers too - Lavrov, Shoigu, Danilov and etc.


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You may be very surprised, but the Minister of Defense of Russia, General of the Army Shoigu, did not serve military service and does not have a military education. Perhaps his public appearance in civilian clothes means that the military operations of the Russian army in Ukraine are now rather led by General of the Army Alexander Dvornikov. Although Putin is still the supreme commander in chief, and Shoigu is still the minister of defense, of course. But Dvornikov seems to have a big operational carte blanche and he is the one who draws arrows on the map.
It's not surprise for me, I know this fact for a long time. And I'm still getting cognitive dissonance about it. How you can become army general without serving in army? And yeah, I read that now Butcher of Syria is one of the main persons in this war now.

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Mariupol is a show of force. The attackers' lack of numerical superiority, the use by Ukraine of dominant heights in urban development and civilians as a human shield - did not stop the Chechen assault battalions and the people's militia of Donbass. The city will be restored, with the exception of Azovstal.

If there is an order to clean up Nikolaev, Kharkov, Odessa, Lvov or Kyiv, they will do it again, now you know about it and all of Ukraine now knows and all of the World now knows. Russians fight not by numbers, but by skill, and for them there are no impossible combat missions.
So, Mariupol's infrastructure isn't good after all? But I used it just as most obvious example, there is lot of smaller cities with huge damage like Severodonetsk or Borodyanka.

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You are right, a real civil war has been going on in Ukraine for 8 years, the genocide of the Russian-speaking population of Donbass. Russia is not at war, she came to stop it. I call a spade a spade.
And this ''civilian war'' was started by Russia 8 years ago. And what is genocide of Russian speaking Donbass population is still big mistery for me.
2434  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: April 26, 2022, 10:46:53 PM
Did you guys saw transcripts of radio from Imola? Interesting stuff how Russel and Hamilton see conditions in track:


So, it's dry track for Russel, but one lap later it's still wet for Hamilton. And despite it, Hamilton changed tyres just one lap after this message if I remeber correctly. Source for transcriptions:
https://www.racefans.net/2022/04/26/transcript-i-need-more-power-hamilton-and-russells-contrasting-fortunes-at-imola/
2435  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BitcoinNews.com's UEFA Champions League Football Preditor Pool Discussion thread on: April 26, 2022, 09:01:34 PM
Damn what a game, it was difficult to expectsomething better. What a powerful start City had, in first 15 minutes they dominated completely, but later Real returned to the game. I would say that one of goals that Real conceded (4th I think) was Courtois mistake. It was his corner and he didn't even reacted.
And that Benzema penalty - you need to have lot of confidence to make Panenka in such important game.
At some moments it looked that City can bring quite confident score to Madrid, but Real was able to respond and with 4:3 score most interesting things is still ahead.
2436  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Italian Serie A ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread on: April 25, 2022, 11:21:31 PM
Serie A has good competition on both ends of the table but I can't say I enjoy watching Italian clubs play. There is just something missing there for my taste. My first choice is always Premier League or Champions league followed by LaLiga, Bundesliga and only then it comes to Serie A and my local HNL.

I like to bet on Serie A with my staple both to score but I never watch the games Shocked
I have similar feelings, don't know exactly why. I rarely watch Serie A games in full, unless Milan, Inter and Juve is playing each other or there nothing to watch from other leagues.
I can't say that I don't follow league completely like Ligue 1, but that long Juventus dominance and boring catenaccio in past played negative impact in my Serie A interest. Despite that in few recent seasons fight for title becomea thing again and it's not low scoring league anymore like it was 10 years ago.

Probably Juve gonna loose 1:0 so I loose both my ticket and what is left of dignity in the pool.
I went with draw, I have nothing to lose on Superbru table, so I can go a bit will with my predictions. And offcourse, Juve won Cheesy.
2437  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 25, 2022, 11:09:20 PM
We couldn't really say how much are dead on Ukraine's side. Only the Russians has the time to count their dead mean since they have this war in control. Ukrainian dead were even left on the roadside to rot. And the infrastructures that are destroyed are in Ukraine. If they want their country to be still like remains as is which they can pick up the pieces and resume back to where they are before the war, they could just go on with the peacetalks. Putin still offer the peacetalks afaik.

If Zelensky has care for the country he should be accepting the peace talk that Putin is offering. Its been two months, no one is going to go to Ukraine for war. Regret always happen after things are over but they can stop it while its yet not too late. They may even given opportunities after. Heck Russia has more gas and oil to offer to Ukraine if they make business instead. They may even help rebuild the country.
I think you confused something. Ukraine count their dead men, few weeks ago Zelensky mentioned estimate numbers of dead and injured, but they reasons not to give frequent updates about it. While Russia really leaves their dead troops to rot in fields and to be eaten by wild dogs, despite that they're saying ''Svoikh Ne Brosaem''. And there is thousands of unclaimed dead soldiers are stored in Ukrainian morgues:
https://www.businessinsider.com/7000-unclaimed-dead-russian-soldiers-left-in-morgues-ukraine-says-2022-4
And seems that you completely don't understand situation. Conditions for Putin's offered peace is complete capitulation of Ukraine

I am especially amused by your ability to diagnose Putin by his hand on the edge of the table, while Biden regularly shakes hands with the void. Grin
I can't diagnose disease from photo, but do you think that Putin is looking OK in this photo? And where these long tables is gone? Wouldn't be surprised if it's another faked video. And it's also not often thing to see Shoigu wearing civilian clothes.
Biden is another story, but I don't like whataboutism.

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But in general, the civilian infrastructure in Ukraine is now surprisingly in good condition.
Especially Mariupol.

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You don't seem to understand this. Russia is not at war with Ukraine, this is a military special operation. If Russia had really declared war on Ukraine, it would have ended a month ago. There is no martial law in Russia, there is no mass mobilization, normal peaceful life is going on in all regions, with the exception of three regions bordering Ukraine, where a yellow level of terrorist threat has been declared. I do not know with whom Ukraine is fighting there, but Russia did not come to this war. And be glad it is.
I know that in Russia you're not allowed to use word war for this, but sorry, that's war. One country armoured invasion into another country is war. Yes, there is no martial law and mass mobilization in Russia, but these things happening in Ukraine is war. But Russia sometimes don't like call thing with real their names.
2438  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Primeira Liga (Portuguese League) 2021/22 Season on: April 25, 2022, 10:23:19 PM
Porto 58 games undefeated run come to the end. Last time they lost league game on October 30th, 2020 and today they lost to Braga. It's new league record.Despite this loss, for Porto it's almost impossible to throw away title - they lead by 6 points against Sporting with just 3 rounds remaining.
By the way, last season champions Sporting also had just 1 loss in whole season. And in XXI century Porto were able to make Invincibles season 2 times already.
2439  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: April 24, 2022, 11:49:43 PM
I hope Imola will never go on the calendar again.
I have to disappoint you, but Imola is on calendar until 2025 at least Cheesy. Yeah, this track isn't perfect for overtaking, but Lewis stuck behind Gasly is more Mercedes problem than track. I still prefer tracks like this instead of these fancy street circuits.
We will see one of such tracks for the first time, Miami GP in stadium parking after 2 weeks.
2440  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Spanish La Liga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread on: April 24, 2022, 11:44:36 PM
I would say that it's time to start thinking about upcoming season, it's not big difference we will finish 2nd or 3rd, but then I realized that with such perfromance we can drop out from Champions league spot.
@Harko described our season very well - from terrible to good and then terrible again. After all, our biggest achievement is beating Real 4:0 in Madrid. Sweet, but meaningless in general.

now that Real betis secured Europa League the 7th place in La liga will go to conference league. Bilbao and Villareal are the main candidates for that spot
Don't forget that Villarreal still can qualify to Champions league by winning this season Champions league Smiley.
yep, but let's be completely honest here, winning the whole thing? really now?  Cheesy  
I mentioned it more like possibility, rather than real thing, but you never know Cheesy
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