I would go with the S7 over the S5. Price is good at the moment for a batch 8 and if the difficulty keeps on the way it is, even if we hold $440 an S5 on 5c electricity will barely be making money after the Halving.
Rich
The S7 is better than S5 for the short term, or before the 16 nm chip based miners come out. After that, the block halving will make it obsolete. Having is going to hurt on most of us. Those with super cheap electricity will make it though it and have a TON of used gear to buy for pretty cheap I'm guessing. Only thing is look at chips like Bitfury if we can get sub .10 cent chips one day that is a game changer it becomes profitable. Not bitfury might not sell to little customers. But I think eventually someone with a decent next get chip will com in for small consumers. I'm not sure who to guess on it though, to much secrecy to really know. |
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Bitcoin Core is the way to go.
i suggest bitcoin core also but it really depends on what platform you are on. if youre on a mobile phone, android has mycelium and iphone has coinbase/breadwallet/bither. i really like the features of bither and the layout of coinbase. there is something akin for mobile, it's called "bitcoin wallet" it resemble core, and it was top 1 among the most secure wallet for mobile You can also use some hardware wallets on a mobile android like Trezor, and Ledger. I think those are nice features with using a hardware wallet in conjunction with a mobile phone. MyCelium is good with both of those hardware wallets. |
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You are correct. Maybe I gave wrong impression. As I said, I would only take very few (like 5) machines. And I'm not thinking of making a living out of this. I have a steady regular job. I was thinking about this just as a small hobby. But you are definately right, that I can't make a promise of something about I don't have proper skills. So I'm not making a promise of remote contacting  When I started the other thread I thought that I just put the settings in my self from home. Honestly I don't think your ready, bigger farms beat that 10 cent price or match it in almost all cases. And were talking about ones with great infrastructure. And your jumping in with no one knowing you trying to compete. Just is a hard fight. And your remote idea is very hard to do. You need to give a customer access to their miners but not a "bad guy", or customers touching other customers miners. I think you just would have a lot of work from where your at. Either way best of luck. |
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Racing along now at 70C, starting to drop (slowly) as night comes on. Ok for mild summer, and def ok for winter but when 40C+ hits...the poor little miner's fkk'd. Thinking I'm going to have to ditch the box as a bad idea, get a set of wire shelves and work out a different security option. (Wire cable to the shelves perhaps  ) Thanks for your advice guys, Crash If at all possible I would look at inside your house still. You might need to underclock or something to make it bearable to you. But I'm not huge fan of under house after thinking about it. Do you get rain under your house? Just thinking of environment and setup under house could be hard. Securing all depends on you honestly. I know my miners have a alarm system, and cameras. Is that overkill for most? Yes chances are it is. But mine is above a garage/crop farm work area. So it is really to protect both. |
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If you're serious about offering miner hosting to other people, it might be a good idear to learn about correct router setup That is definately correct  But as I explained in that miner hosting thread, I would take only few machines, so I could do the adminesteration also my self from home network. But of course giving remote control to miner owners' would be much more professional How can you promise something such as remote control to owners? Someone who tries is claiming that as a feature that will be there is normally not the one who does not know 192.168.X is a internal IP. You setting up a remote system for multiple users that is safe.... is something you will need time and knowledge, and possibly even hire someone to code it. And I'm not trying to be mean just being serious as your talking about a business. I think your trying to jump into a business to quick. Your already offering hosting when you don't even have info structure set up for it. |
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That is how the s5 temps usually are I wouldn't worry too much about the difference. I would underclock it to get it under 70 max temp. When adjusting clock or airflow always use the higher temp as the actual temp.
EDIT: Got a picture of the top and how a fan is sucking air out?
The only thing is I'm guessing he is still having winter weather. OP is that correct? I could be wrong. But if 74c is with winter weather he really needs to solve it a little more before summer heat's up. I'm still thinking he might need a fan or something to push air. I'm thinking in a box with vent's likely is not moving hot air away from miner. One PC fan is not moving much air. I'm talking about like a box fan or something with decent CFM. So' I'm in South Eastern Australia: Middle of summer, but currently very mild, only 20C. Likely to be much higher, although it is a little insulated from heat under the house. I've added a duct to the exhaust fan on the miner: http://imgur.com/LbTI6iK(hey, I've now used cable ties AND duct tape! ) 63C now is highest, but its only had a few minutes to warm up Crash EDIT: Seems to have settled at 66C That at least is some improvement the other temperature just is to hot for me to like it personally. This one still might be a problem when it warms up there. I really suggest looking at something such as a box fan and push some decent CFM's through it's box. My mining summer how I got through it was with lot of CFM's from fans. You're talking about big, 20-30cm (8-12") type fans aren't you, not little cpu type fans? I'm saying something like a box fan: http://www.amazon.com/Lasko-3723-20-Inch-Premium-3-SPEED/dp/B000HHJ2I2/ just as a example. I just think your box is going to need more air flow then a small computer fan during the hot day's. I know during summer I had a good amount of watt's in my mining area and I used high CFM fan's and my weather is not great with evaporation cooing. And I could be wrong it just seems like from picture it is a decent sized box. So I turn to bigger fan. |
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I would have to agree with notlist3d, if you have limited technical knowledge and a dynamic ip, teamviewer will be a lot easyer than configuring NAT correctly... EDIT: on the other hand, i've seen your thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1347161.0If you're serious about offering miner hosting to other people, it might be a good idear to learn about correct router setup... Especially if you're going to host other people's routers in your house while you're not at home! It will do everything he want's to do on teamviewer. Give it a try OP pick a machine you want on full time, load it and make sure in install to tell it you want to start at boot. And also make sure to use a account and save it. As it is that account that allows you remotely to connect. I think this is honestly your best option and one that will give you the least headaches. |
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How can we trust you that you wont simply vanish with our miners ?
Yes. That is the problem. I was thinking about some kind of deposit to escrow which would be released step by step. But as I said I can't keep my money locked forever. Do you have some suggestions? Reading other thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1348526.0 I don't think your ready to host. And that goes before the trust issues. You will have to prove a LOT to host. I mean how many amps do you have? What is cooling solution? Do you have insurance that covers miners in event of fire? .... there are a TON of varibles. And getting trust is not easy. |
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How many volts are you running on? Is less then 205 the PSU will not power on in most cases.
Do you happen to have 110/120 where your plugging it in?
what he said! you need a 240V outlet... that or a step up transformer on a 120V outlet that is on at least a 20 amp circuit without anything else plugged into it, assuming you are only running one. It is the most common reason on these PSU's. Sadly some people don't read the 205+ Volts. They just see a server psu and think it will work great with S7. But as you mentioned there might be wasy's to get it to start on 120. But instead of trying to get it to start on 120 I would get a 220/240 line if at all possible. It comes in handy anymore with bigger miners. A step up is like a band-aid a line with 220/240 is a real fix. perhaps, but most likely cheaper than an electrician. Depends on what your options are. I know I had area for a mining area, and with a family members help was able to wire it up and put in some 120 and 240. (120 I had some of the equipment already so that is why not all 240). I owe philipma1957 for some help on 240 especially on items to get. A think you will find more on here who deal with electricity on miners then you expect. But yes some are stuck with a electrician and that can be pricey. I know I thought about having one do mine... but after he saw miners he gave a quote on one 240 line ran 10 foot or so for over a thousand dollars, needless to say I found other options. |
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This may be outside my skills I don't have fixed IP (I guess I could get it), but my internet is very stable, so does the outside IP stay the same, until I need to reboot my ADSL modem (which happens very rarely)? Easiest way for you I think is going to be teamviewer - http://www.teamviewer.com/en-us/ . Set it up on a computer and leave that computer on in your house. You can set it up where you use account to log in to machine from anywhere with internet access. So say you have a dynamic IP does not matter as you connect through teamviewer. It is the easiest option your will find, and does work on android and IOS I believe on connection from if your mobile. |
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Same questions asked over and over again. Reset controller. Give your computer static ip (192.168.1.100), subnet mask 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.1.99, dns doesn\t matter. Connect miner straight to the computer or via switch, surf to page 192.168.1.99, turn miner on dhcp. Save settings, turn computer back on dhcp, find right ip from modems status page. Surf to that ip. Done. If you can\t reset your controller, unbrick it with cp2102 adapter, instructions are here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1335865.0This is why when I sell miners I include the IP. Been a while since I sold one but it makes it so much easier on buyer if they don't know much on networking. I still think he should contact seller, and it chances are would be easy to get IP from him. After that would be a simple matter setting up a static IP like you mention. And he likely could try it now with 192.168.1.100 or 192.168.0.100 and hitting it from there. But if he asks seller would be no guess work. Reset should do the trick if he follows it. I'm thinking one firmware did have where reset did not work so slim chance, but he could be on that firmware. |
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it bothers me only one thing bitmain, 1 x 1 coupon S7
that to me is wrong.
100 coupon if I have to use them all even for a single purchase.
it's a shame.
I think other way would be nice and interesting. I would love to see it happen in times like this. Would even be fun buying coupons seeing how cheap you could get a new miner via ton's of coupons. But I realize it's business for them. Right now with limiting to such a small amount and making one per they know they will still make almost the same. It does not effect their bottom line as combine able ones would be doing much more. Could have been fun but don't see it ever happening. |
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these diff levels are going to go cray cray now. i have second hand knowledge that the bitfury 16nm is now fully deployed by large mine farms.
Well I sincerely hope you are right, as I had assumed that the major Bitfury deployment was still to happen. So 2 Big Days and I think Today will be similar, my spreadsheet saying another +24% / 179 Blocks. Leaving my pick to the last minute, which I think will be around 15:00 Tomorrow, but the scene is set.... Rich With price of btc this one is going to hurt I have a feeling. It could be Bitfury and like is some to a point. I wonder if everyone see's having coming up and is getting greedy. If they can make twice as much now as after having.... getting a miner mad and up sounds much more profitable now. I just wish I knew if it was all Bitfury or if some other companies are making last minute grabs. Like say Bitmain will they make a ton of S7's before having trying to cash in? Seems they would have mastered making it, and gotten cost's down as low as they can be chances are. Hard to say but wish I knew. Even more wish it would stop. |
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please be aware that this chip and equipment based on it is ALREADY deployed and in use by large mine farms. i can state for almost certain fact that the bitfury 16nm has been deployed in a farm in the nyc area for a few months now. the size takes less than 128u rack space and is hashing 400th. the reason i say that i am pnly "almost certain" is i have not seen it personally but was told about it by a good friend that has seen it first hand.
Interesting it would make a lot of sense as difficulty has went crazy it seems right now. Just price staying sub 400, and huge jump coming is not good for miners. If they get them in before having ... that is huge of these new chips. I would think we would see them pushing hard on getting gear as Bitfury seems to have beat all other makers on time and specs, at least that we know about. I hope it slow's down but I'm not sure what will happen. |
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Bumping incase anyone new now and they have not read this. Resetting your password via secret question does still indeed lock the account.
Saw one in meta so thought I would give this a bump for those new, and if some missed it.
It is sad that we must resort to measures like 'bumping' thread with the info about disruptive functionality of bitcointalk. This issue is known for a long time, how much time will pass until it will be fixed? I imagine it is not something impossible hard to fix, right? The good news is it's slowed down from what it was, so it is being passed on the knowledge it still happens. The sad thing is it still happens then people have to prove they own account, and it can take time. A fix such as removing it would be great long term. This just will let a few new people to see it but will in no way stop it like removal would. |
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I'm wondering why don't they (admins...) warn every newly registered user about the possibility of hacking of their accounts and about some measures they should take in order to avoid losing their accounts... Something like a little howto... 1) NEVER use a "secret question" option to recover your password; 2) Your foremost post at this forum should contain your BTC address - ADD A BOOKMARK to that message in your browser and NEVER edit it (neither bookmark nor post); 3) whatever-else...  I have no messages containing my address mentioned in the first post, I have a message with another my bitcoin address somewhere on this forum, but it will take some time to find it... That stinks being locked out. I tried to warn new people a while back - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1214627.0 . I bumped the thread after seeing this maybe it will save a few from troubles. It would be nice if it was removed instead of doing this. Or like you said a warning added to page. |
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Bumping incase anyone new now and they have not read this. Resetting your password via secret question does still indeed lock the account.
Saw one in meta so thought I would give this a bump for those new, and if some missed it.
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That is how the s5 temps usually are I wouldn't worry too much about the difference. I would underclock it to get it under 70 max temp. When adjusting clock or airflow always use the higher temp as the actual temp.
EDIT: Got a picture of the top and how a fan is sucking air out?
The only thing is I'm guessing he is still having winter weather. OP is that correct? I could be wrong. But if 74c is with winter weather he really needs to solve it a little more before summer heat's up. I'm still thinking he might need a fan or something to push air. I'm thinking in a box with vent's likely is not moving hot air away from miner. One PC fan is not moving much air. I'm talking about like a box fan or something with decent CFM. So' I'm in South Eastern Australia: Middle of summer, but currently very mild, only 20C. Likely to be much higher, although it is a little insulated from heat under the house. I've added a duct to the exhaust fan on the miner: http://imgur.com/LbTI6iK(hey, I've now used cable ties AND duct tape! ) 63C now is highest, but its only had a few minutes to warm up Crash EDIT: Seems to have settled at 66C That at least is some improvement the other temperature just is to hot for me to like it personally. This one still might be a problem when it warms up there. I really suggest looking at something such as a box fan and push some decent CFM's through it's box. My mining summer how I got through it was with lot of CFM's from fans. |
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I repeat: there is no significant increase on bitfury and antpool pools. So it's not S7 and not new bitfury machines, it's something else.
Antpool has gone from about 67 Petahash to over 200 Petahash in the last 6 months. Bitfury has gone from about 60 Petahash to 130 Petahash. In both cases it has been a continuous increase. Almost all pools have at least doubled their hashing in the last 6 months. The only pool who has not grown is 21 Inc which has sat at about 15-20 Petahash. https://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/hashrate/6m?c=m&r=month&t=lThat is interesting on antpool. I wonder if possibly they have the miners for batch 10 being made and plugged in. With holiday's coming up in China I wonder if they would make do some burnin test over their holiday's then ship "Shipping out date: Starting between Feb. 16~20 following order of full payment after we're back from holiday." I do think they would make all they can off of them even internally before having. |
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This thread has turned into a BST thread almost. I'm a little surprised about the amount.
Each time these come out I wish you could combine them. I can see why they don't let them be combined, but man would that be neat.
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