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2441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [RaiBlocks] RaiBlocks trading thread on: May 28, 2016, 02:00:29 AM
Guys is this project already available in the trading sites, I love to study this one but I am already hooked with other investment. FYI, I am investing in waves but I like to know more about this.
2442  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: May 28, 2016, 01:58:55 AM
Best investment is sell some dayis before Halving and Rebuy after some weeks at lower price.

that's actually also what i have in mind for the upcoming block halving. i will sell 1 or 2 days before the block halving as i believe in these days the highest point will be reached. once the block halving has taken place i expect huge dumps to tank the price down heavily. i will surely buy back at much lower price levels.
The best investment that you can make now is that you have to buy Bitcoin at a low value and that is because the chance is higher to win some money with it and that is nice.
But of course it will be hard to earn some money with Bitcoin because it takes a long time to have a higher value.

The $440 price for the bitcoin is low at the moment. We might not see that price in a few months.

That could be true. The price now is over $470. So we might drop below the $440 in the near future.
I don't see the price will drop anymore as it is going only to one path base on my analysis of the trend. Bitcoins price is increasing as the halving is nearing, we can tell the price after the halving, I think it would be steady then.
2443  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: May 28, 2016, 01:53:01 AM
Paper money will have not that bad future and that is because there are still a lot of people that is using paper money as their payment method and that is really nice of course.
There are also a lot of people that dont even know how Bitcoin works and that is the problem of it so it has to be more popular.

You are right but we are talking about the future and it will be used less more for sure because of the digitally world that is coming.
The world will be fully digital and transactions will now mostly go directly from a credit card or bank account.

Credit card is in demand at this stage, but everyone doesn't prefer to use it as majority of people don't like to have monthly debts and they will prefer to spend in cash.
Credit card is a temptation where indiscipline people will most like falls victims of bad interest rate, they think they can buy anything will credit card and their hands and in the end they are blaming themselves paying huge amount of bills.
2444  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it a good long term investment to buy 1 BTC today? on: May 27, 2016, 02:41:50 AM
You should never invest money which you might need for buying food or paying your bills but if you have spare money I recommend to invest all of them in Bitcoin now because the price right now is 10-15% lower than it will be several months later.

The most important thing is you only need to invest a amount which you can afford to lose, we need to understand that in investing there is a risk associated in it, so the more we invest the more the risk.
2445  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 27, 2016, 02:40:24 AM
fiat money or btc? if btc hold it until price go up

You can read the title, obviously he's asking about fiat money. of fiat money better investment in bitcoin then hold for halving.
it depends on your will if you just want to keep and are afraid to risk then it is better not to go into investment because all investments particularly at risk. if you people who loved the challenge and wants a big profit. then it would be advisable to invest in bitcoin in addition to trade bitcoin. you can also grow bitcoin in many ways This is a double benefit


I agree if you dont want to lose money their you can just saved it and wait for the right time but tge problem their is your money will not multiply and for the past years comes its in the same amount, while if you invest it you can earn money although it has a risk for losing money but theirs risk everywhere risk made us cautious so we can avoid danger and yet if we risk we can earn.
Saving is a bad idea if you put your money in the bank as it can be affected by inflation, you don't need to do that actually because with the advent of bitcoins we can save and invest in our own wallet at the same time.

agree, saving money is a not an option, invest your money instead of saving it if you want to see it grow from time to time, make sure you read the company background first before investing money/btc to it.
We only need to save for our emergencies in the future, the rest of our income should be invested if we want to gain a profit and live a comfortable life, this sounds risky but we need to take the risk in order to succeed.
2446  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: May 27, 2016, 02:34:31 AM
Just wondering when everyone buys bitcoin, weekly, monthly or just on the falls?  thinking of setting up something regular to ride out the waves.....  Grin

i buy bitcoin everytime i sold my stocks, buy and sell bitcoin is very profitable , just know the right timing when to sell and when to buy and also you need patience on holding your bitcoin or selling it.
Buying bitcoins in a regular basis before the halving is a very good idea, it should be a profit in the future as the halving is nearing our profit is also near. We need to believe so we can be all happy here.
2447  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: May 27, 2016, 02:30:18 AM
1000 btc to live best life with beautiful babes  Grin

1000 btc is not possible for each and every individual as its an unrealistic value to achieve even 10 btc can take care if price reaches to millions.

Yeah and the fact is no one is aware how long bitcoin will survive and what will be the price of bitcoin after 20 years, its better to live in present rather then thinking that long.

As long as you monitor the price of bitcoins regularly and you determine that the price keep increasing then for 20 years it will be a profit for you, maybe 1000 BTC is enough already.

Maybe its enough but its all depending on the price so I honestly think we cannot predict this right now or on any moment, maybe if its stable its possible.
We need to think very optimistic about the price of bitcoins in the future because this is our future too, it bitcoins will prosper we also benefited from this. So I would say that 1000 BTC is a very good investment by that time.
2448  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: May 27, 2016, 02:26:15 AM
EARLY TODAY I BUY EACH COIN AT 15,000 SATOSHIS  PROLLY TUESDAY 31st THE PRICE TO BUY THIS COIN MIGHT BE 30,000 sats AND 15K BITCOINS INVESTED THAT DONT GUARRANTEE THAT WE GONNA HIT 50K PER COIN AT LAUNCHING BUT ITS NOT FAIR THAT PEOPLE KEEP INVESTING AND I DIDNT KNOW THAT THEY TAKE COINS FROM US FOR THE NEW INVESTORS AND ALL THOSE 12K BITCOINS ARE NOT GOING TO HELP US IF WE SEE THIS COIN FALLING HALF OF THE ICO PRICE ... SO KEEP INVESTING SASHA MIGHT FAIL AGAIN BUT HE WILL BE VERY HAPPY RICH MAN NOW HAHA!!

you receive a % of the amount you invested from the total amount of tokens available.


shit its been 10 hours since i bought my coins they already took 2000 waves from my account for the price i paid 15,000 satoshis thats .3 btc so they going to give me like $400 i mean if this keeps going like that im gonna end up with 2000 coins in my account haha what a freak this guy takes all the cake and we get the crumbs so the pigeons at the launch day fight for it haha

why they dont just sell the 87m coins and stop that would make people anxious to get this coin at launch but oh well if thats how this works then we are fucked hahaha!!! cheers people (crossed fingers) Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
That's fine man, I will be happy if that will happen into our account on a daily basis because that would simply mean waves is so valuable.
2449  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any safe way to grow my bitcoins ? on: May 27, 2016, 01:22:22 AM
Buy cloud mining but you need to have more bitcoins to invest in cloud mining
Cloud mining or cloud mining investing sometimes become a form of scam, I have already tried that before, got my profit but find out later that they don't really have a mining farm and eventually lost my investment. I would not really try that if I were you.
2450  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to collect BTC ?? on: May 27, 2016, 01:20:53 AM
I was also victim of HYIP, I think in the past very many people who invest in HYIP, because they are attracted by large profits in a short time, including me. but this time the forum is very intense in rooting HYIP, if you look to promote, you will get a neg trust.

Well that HYIP's doesn't do good, especially for newbies, it's up to those people who already knows that hyip is just a scam, they are maybe trying
their luck that they can be the first one to join for it. But when that site collapses, surely they will regret for joining it.

Instead of investing they can do Fauceting which is the most easiest but the most slowest way of earning bitcoins, someone will have to spend a way lot time on faucets to earn just $1 and it doesn't really worth the time spent on it, better to do something else to earn some cash then wasting time on faucets.
Faucet for me is not worth of my time as you need to exert a lot of time in order to collect a good amount of BTC, if you are doing that on a daily basis it becomes more boring.
2451  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin continuous rising? on: May 27, 2016, 01:15:48 AM
yes bitcoin will continue to rise, expecting it to each 600-800$ after halving, worse case scenario after halving and some miners quit mining then price of the bitcoin will continue to rise ,

Halving will surely show us good price of bitcoin and I am sure that bitcoin has a great future ahead and it will continue to rise in coming years.
For me halving is an opportunity, so investing now is a good more for the traders, we can expect a huge return in the future if we only believe. Take the risk and earn profit.
2452  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: May 27, 2016, 01:09:33 AM
Smart way for gambling is that you should invest least money into it and try to bet on higher odds with small amount, if you are lucky you will win, or else even if you loose it won't make any difference to you.

I guess it's not worth it to bet small on high odds, because the returns wouldn't be that big, too.

Setting a bankroll that you can afford to lose and not being too compulsive on gambling is I think one way to gamble smartly. There are several other things, though. Sticking up to your strategy and play it slowly (not betting max after continuous lose) can also be a way to gamble smart.

I agree, the house or the gambling sites have already calculated that, the odds they offer always favor on them so even if you win now, in the long run you will still lose, if you are into sports betting on the fair points spread and over/under is better, you only need to hit 56% most of the time to win.
2453  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: May 27, 2016, 01:01:16 AM
I have full faith in bitcoin that its gonna be future currency and it will be much popular and powerful in future so we should trust it for sure.

Yes if there's no new coin that will outstrip cause we dont know how future works. There might be a new altcoin that will replace bitcoin. But hoping that this will be the future currency would bring a bloody war first cause government doesn't want an anonymous and a money that cant be manipulated.

you will not get hurt if you try to believe in bitcoin and in other alt coin that has a potential, bitcoin is very powerful crpto-currency that is easy to use for transaction, someday bitcoin will be use by most people
In the future that will probably happen, because of the benefits bitcoins has people will really use if as long as they become aware and educated on how to use bitcoins in transactions.
2454  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin to be international currency on: May 27, 2016, 12:57:34 AM
To me, it is already an international currency. I have used to pay the phone bills for my relatives in another country.
I agree, bitcoins has many uses nowadays because many merchant have already adopted using it, we can use it in booking our vacation, pay bills, pay for food order, and most especially to gamble in an online casino.
2455  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: May 27, 2016, 12:56:07 AM
Lots of gamblers start by having fun only, and then once they lose, they want to take revenge on their bad luck, by betting again hoping for good luck, this is where the pain begins, since this means you are an addict and will keep on gambling to ridiculous levels. If you are prone to addiction, never gamble.
yes most of them always say gamble just for fun, but it can be interpreted differently. someone just play and try your luck, but not too seriously. but there is truth in what was said by you, when someone is lost, they will try to recover and so addicted.
Its all about controlling your self in order for you not to be addicted, if you are a typical gambler then most likely you will be addicted due to lack of self discipline, discipline makes the gambler gamble responsibly.
2456  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: May 27, 2016, 12:52:04 AM
if I was rich I would still gamble without any hesitation because I really love gambling and its for me very enjoying, it kill some time for me when I have too much spare time on work.
Every gambler will console himself with a meaningless reason for going back to gambling even he had faced many losses with gambling.
How long a rich man can loose his wealth with gambling. You will be forced to stop gambling with no money. Yes, gambling will make you poor to stop you from coming back.

gambler no need to console himself with meaningless reason. They just like to gamble as it is part of their habit for entertainment. They enjoy the feeling of gamble and excitment.
That should be the way to treat gambling, it should purely be entertainment and in order to get entertain you need to pay the price and that is when you lost your bets, if you win, well and good, consider that as bonus.
2457  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Simple NBA Playoffs Betting on: May 27, 2016, 12:50:35 AM
Golden State Warriors are going to face Oklahoma City.In spite of continuous bad performance Golden State Warriors can win this match.I took Golden State Warriors -8.5 @2.159.I have feeling Golden State Warriors can not give up this way.It will fight and try its best this time.
The Warriors have to give there all in the next game because if not they are going to be blown out by the Thunder again. I am not sure how they will do it because they look helpless against the Thunder.

Well, the blowouts make them look helpless but if they'll be able to make the game close enough until 2 minutes into the 4th then they'll have a bigger chance of winning especially with those deadly 3pointers.
I turn off the tv as can not watch anymore when it was 100-60.
They were blown out because they were at the casino across the street late into the night before the game.  Roll Eyes
demarre-carroll-and-cory-josephs-game-5-casino-visit-meant-nothing
That was just an excuse, the thing is the cavaliers are really a better team compared to the raptors, you cannot expect the cavaliers to back down playing at home for a crucial game.
2458  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ALL IN!!?? on: May 27, 2016, 12:48:58 AM
Ever go all in  Shocked  and have a positive result?

Once I went all in and I won a lot. Later I did it again and lost Sad Never go all in !

That's a typical situation in gambling. I've done it many times. At first you win, then you win more and then you lose all. The only way to avoid big harmful losses is to not gamble with the money which are big for you.

Hmm.. From what you write here i understand that you won, but you continue to doubling the rate and in the end lost. This is obvious! It's called lose because of greed my friend Wink
Next time take all won after the first doubling, and do not test your luck too much ..Wink
Yeah! luck is not consistent so you cannot rely on it all the time, although I may say that ALL IN is good if you are gambling with the sole purpose of profit, your chances when you play a short period of time.

Yeah luck is not always their i can say dont bet all in so you can avoid lose big in just one blink of an eye and the always loser for GAmbling are those greedy ones who want to earn big money in short span gambling, all in is not really good idea when your starting losing and losing at the time you gamble and its time to leave in the table because its your unlucky day and if you continue you may lose big money and try your luck next day.
ALL IN actually is very thrilling, you would really entertain yourself doing this especially when you are betting on sports like basketball, though you all in but you can wait for the result of your bet after 48 hours, so that's better than playing dice.
2459  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing Bitcoins? on: May 27, 2016, 12:40:09 AM

I wanted to try BTCJam too, i just fear that they go away with what you invested :/

beware most people in btcjam using false identities and go after them to get loans.  they will seek trust + first to gain confidence after that they will go and scammed  you
yups always look their trust rating if you want to lend
I think the trust could be misused dude I had several times lent bitcoin to users who have high trust and they cheat me go with my bitcoin and did not return there are people who deliberately cultivate trust them so many other users who believe later when a certain time. He will lend larger bitcoin then go out
In my own opinion, lending business is not viable in bitcoins as it is anonymous and we can expect there are a lot of scammers in the community, if you are just lending with a little interest then the risk is higher, you better invest in bitcoins and hold, safer than lending.
2460  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: May 27, 2016, 12:35:44 AM
Staying away from gambling is easy in my eyes because if you just simply find another thing you really like to do.

to answer your statement simple if the outward and stay away from gambling as easy as you say. it will not many people become addicts and there is no people will be hire professional helper to help them get out of gambling?
but in fact there are a lot of people trouble to get out of gambling? This proves that stay away from gambling is not easy dude
Actually prevention is better than cure, if you are addicted with gambling then staying or quitting it is very hard, emotional distress is what you called when you are in that situation and you need the help of your love ones and family to cure you.
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