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2461  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: October 19, 2020, 03:48:15 PM
Somehow I feel that it won’t actually do much damage because let’s face it.. Crack smoking and prostitutes aren’t really all that offputting to most leftists now is it?
The libertarian in me doesn’t really care either other than the fact that I wouldn’t want to put such a person in/close to a position of power..
Ukraine evidence? They won’t care..

This story has been hot for days and it is just now being mentioned on Bitcointalk.. Not even a thread on it..
Nobody really cares..

Even I barely have the ambition to have read into it, much less crosspost it to btct..

Nullius is very right in many ways in his last post here..
Democracy can only work well with an informed and intelligent population who have good/selfless intentions..
The USA is lacking all 3.. The voting public is 90% propaganda packed imbeciles that care about nothing but their own immediate gratification..

Atleast the constitution is not supposed to be up for vote, but here we are talking about packing the SCOTUS with leftist activist judges to do exactly that..

When you look at all the facts objectively, the whole "Biden had Victor Shoken fired because he was investigating a company his son was on the board of" just doesn't add up.  There's also a ton of misinformation about Hunter Biden going around that has been repeated so many times that a lot of people seem to just assume it's true.

So, when an article in a tabloid owned by Murdoch, with the chief editor being one of Trumps golf buddies, and one of the main sources being Rudy Guilliani - it doesn't surprise me that many, including myself, aren't taking it seriously.
2462  Other / Politics & Society / Re: USA PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS 2020: Michael Moore says Trump on course to win ! on: October 19, 2020, 09:42:46 AM
A LOT of small business use the Corporate structure, and file taxes using the 1120 form. Entities such as docs and legal sharks use the 1120S. Others use the Schedule C on the regular 1040.

A LOT of small businesses don't use the Corporate Structure.

2463  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump Paid Just $750 taxes in 2016 and 2017 ! on: October 17, 2020, 10:13:50 PM
There is absolutely nothing stopping anybody releasing their tax returns while the audit with the IRS is going on.
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Yeah, that's you trying to push someone else into doing something.

You can ask nicely.

Naw, leftists would rather sue to get them, or outright steal them.

Ah, you don't approve of the democrats not being nice and filing so many lawsuits.  Makes sense that you found a home in the Trump cult.
There's really not much to be proud of in the behavior of the corrupt political and power system we loosely refer to as "the Democrats" for the last four years.

Perhaps there were times when the Republicans were similarly corrupt and the Democrats were not, and perhaps there were times when both were, or neither was.

We'd have to EXCLUDE all the historical decades when the Democrats were the party of slavery, the KKK, and of white supremacy. We'd also certainly have to exclude the Obama years, when Chicago style corruption was brought to Washington.

That leaves a period from about 1960 to 2008 for consideration.

Both parties have evolved since the time when Republicans were the progressive party that represented more cities, fought for the rights of immigrants and minorities and was mostly in the North.
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Sorry, I made a mistake. We'll have to exclude the time your Demo party had its beloved longest serving member, Robert Byrd, member of the KKK.

When Byrd died in 2010, he had served in the Senate longer than anyone else; the New York Times described him as "a pillar of Capitol Hill." In a statement, then-President Barack Obama called him "a voice of principle and reason." Biden said Byrd was "a dear friend."

In West Virginia in the 1940s — late 1941 or early 1942, according to Byrd’s memoir — he organized and led a 150-member chapter, or "Klavern," of the Klan as the "Exalted Cyclops." In Klan hierarchy, according to Slate, each Klavern is led by an Exalted Cyclops typically elected by his fellow Klansmen. The Exalted Cyclops reports to a "Grand Giant" (provincial leader), "Grand Dragon" (state director) and "Grand Wizard" (national chair).


https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/aug/15/viral-image/robert-byrd-wasnt-grand-wizard-kkk-he-once-led-loc/

1960 to 2008 but Byrd died in 2010?

I guess that leaves you and your party with no good years? Certainly no years in which you can proudly pontificate as a moral authority.

All from the link you provided:

In the 1940s Byrd was in the Klan.

He "then spent decades apologizing for what he called a ‘sad mistake".

In his 2005 memoir he wrote "It has emerged throughout my life to haunt and embarrass me and has taught me in a very graphic way what one major mistake can do to one’s life, career, and reputation,"


So your conclusion is that, since Bird died in 2010 - the democratic party shared ideals with the Klan until 2010.

Quite a stretch, even for you - the guy who attacked me for calling someone racist who was openly recruiting for the KKK and calling for all blacks to be caged again or sent back to africa where they belong.  You weren't triggered by what he said, you were triggered that someone was called a racist.
 
2464  Other / Politics & Society / Re: USA PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS 2020: Michael Moore says Trump on course to win ! on: October 16, 2020, 05:41:11 PM
In any functioning democracy there will be people that have the same mindset as yours and that is great. You happen to agree with some Republican policies and probably will agree with some Democratic ones. Each voter will have to make their decision based on the policies of the parties as well as the people standing as candidates. Jobs, economy and foreign policy are just a few important factors to name but these will be kept in mind by those heading to cast their votes.




At last someone else on the internet who gets it.

The stock market it not the economy.
Crap low paying jobs are not the same as skilled jobs / trade jobs.

And my favorite. Ignoring change and advancement because you don't like it does not mean that it's going away.

-Dave

Just as something to know, this is not me saying that I'm a major democrat or something. I'd say that I agree with the Republicans on tax policy and such, probably lean more on the libertarian side of things for some policies as well.

But yes, I would totally agree with what I said before about the economy. Regular peoples incomes and jobs are not indicated well on the stock market for obvious reasons. Republicans have to start caring about small businesses in America and advocating for pro small business policies. Kinda disgusting that I have to listen to Joe Biden to hear him say things about small businesses and such.

But.... sigh... here we are.

One major problem IMHO is all the lying about what the other side will do or wants to do. These are getting to be pretty tired old memes trotted out over and over in every election cycle, and they really won't help move things forward.

Bolded above, pretty much inaccurate. If you check the sources and amounts of contributions to congressional and senate candidates, you will find most small business is to the Republican, and big business, labor unions, teachers unions and such contribute to Democrats.

I don't think squatz was implying that small businesses that donate to political campaigns are more likely to donate to Democrats.  Not sure why you responded as if he did.
2465  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Post Your Favorite Trump Memes Here on: October 16, 2020, 02:58:48 AM
Only 4 out of top 10 results for google image search: "idiot"

Maybe he does have a shot in...less than 3 weeks

2466  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ivanka Trump Implicated in NY Times Published Tax Scandal on: October 15, 2020, 06:15:50 AM
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It's true most of the stuff can't be prosecuted in criminal court due to statute of limitations.  I'm surprised in your seemingly new found faith in the IRS' ability to audit and prosecute the wealthy and lack of faith in Trumps capability of getting away with crimes.

The bolded above is incorrect, the primary court would be the IRS tax court, which is neither state or federal district court, but a "US Tax Court."

I think you're confused.  The IRS conducts criminal investigations. If they build a strong enough case they refer it to the DOJ or District attorney for prosecution.

It's not me that is confused. It's always been you.

Your confusion is that you want a criminal investigation, and to get that, you need to get any matter related to Trump OUT of the US Tax Courts. To do that you pre-define Trump tax activities as "Criminal," because ORANGEMANBAD.



I already explained:

most of the stuff can't be prosecuted in criminal court due to statute of limitations
2467  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Presidential debates on: October 15, 2020, 06:09:34 AM
Okay you win. Maybe he's POTUS for nine-more while they argue the case, the appeal, the next level appeal, and the supreme court.

Ah, but the pesky constitution always getting in the way of well-intended dictatorships. Trump can't stay past noon January 20.


Nothing says having respect for the constitution quite like packing the courts so justices can legislate from the bench, effectively getting rid of separations of power.
There is a reason why both Biden and Harris are refusing to say if they will pack the SC, including in the debates. The only explanation is they know it is widely unpopular but plan on doing so anyway. If this was not the case, they would simply come out and say they are against court packing.

Saying they won't could alienate younger more liberal voters (think Bernie Bros).

Saying they will could alienate Republicans that plan on voting for Biden.

I think it's entirely possible, and makes sense even, to keep packing the courts on the table without making a promise to actually do it.
2468  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: October 15, 2020, 05:48:41 AM


2021 could be one hell of a hangover for Republicans.
2469  Other / Politics & Society / Re: USA PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS 2020: Michael Moore says Trump on course to win ! on: October 15, 2020, 05:45:26 AM
So what prevents the rich from moving their assets form the US/UK to countries such as India?

US citizens still have to pay taxes on investments in other countries. I assume it's the same for the UK.
2470  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake.com , unable to withdraw almost 3500$ on: October 15, 2020, 03:37:38 AM
It's barely been 24 hours.  You aren't doing yourself any favors by raging about it here, so just be patient like they asked and if there's still an issue after a few more days more people will take you seriously since you wont have 100 posts bitching and moaning and being a dick.
2471  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ivanka Trump Implicated in NY Times Published Tax Scandal on: October 14, 2020, 08:26:14 AM
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It's true most of the stuff can't be prosecuted in criminal court due to statute of limitations.  I'm surprised in your seemingly new found faith in the IRS' ability to audit and prosecute the wealthy and lack of faith in Trumps capability of getting away with crimes.

The bolded above is incorrect, the primary court would be the IRS tax court, which is neither state or federal district court, but a "US Tax Court."

I think you're confused.  The IRS conducts criminal investigations. If they build a strong enough case they refer it to the DOJ or District attorney for prosecution.
2472  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump has Coronavirus :( on: October 14, 2020, 03:24:32 AM
Simply put, physicians and scientists need more abortions to advance their work.

They've still got plenty to work with from the fetus that was aborted in 1973.

I think the babies are safe from being harvested by evil baby eating scientists.
2473  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Presidential debates on: October 13, 2020, 12:29:30 AM
My opinion is that Biden had far more to gain from engineering no more debates. Given his state of mental bliss, he really needed a teleprompter or an ear prompt.

This might have made some sense before the first debate. After that fiasco it's not quite clear if Trump could win a debate against an empty box of Cheerios and he seemed very happy to have found an excuse to back out of the second debate, which was supposed to be a town hall - a format that he failed miserably at a few weeks prior.

Okay, I'm reversing my position on hearing that Biden has been talking about his run for the Senate. This is fucking ridiculously embarrassing. Give him to teleprompter and the virtual debate and tell him to shut up and read the prompter.

How much longer is this going on?

Hey, remember that time Trump said 711 instead of 911?

Or Thigh Land?

Or when he tweeted his wifes name spelled incorrectly, or congratulated the wrong state for winning the super bowl?

For someone that defends Trump at all costs - you should probably pick something to attack Biden for other than mixing up a word here and there.
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2475  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump ACCOMPLISHMENTS on: October 12, 2020, 08:01:04 PM
Saved The NY Times, The Washington Post and Cable News from Bankruptcy.

What would they do if they couldn't write about Trump? Nothing. They wouldn't be writing about sleepy Joe.

How is saving 'the enemy of the people' an accomplishment?
2476  Other / Politics & Society / Re: USA PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS 2020: Michael Moore says Trump on course to win ! on: October 12, 2020, 07:12:36 PM
Obama was good for non-Americans, but he was a disaster for the American economy. His socialist policies wrecked the stock market

Whoever told you that is a lying liar.
Dow Jones growth for last 4 presidents by months in office:


https://www.macrotrends.net/2481/stock-market-performance-by-president

Pretty crazy considering everything the president has said about the market huh?
2477  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ivanka Trump Implicated in NY Times Published Tax Scandal on: October 12, 2020, 12:42:24 AM
If something like that were the case and it were proven in future, it would ensure that no other President would ever be allowed to take office until their financial history were properly looked in to (far more than before) and candidate should ever be considered by any party until every single aspect of their financial dealing are laid out for all to see in order to ensure no conflict of interest and no corruption.

Trump did not even publish his tax returns, he should never have been allowed to stand as a candidate for any party.
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Here's the problem with your assertion. (one problem... there are others)

You've been non-stop slamming Trump's financial activities with zero proof, and very, very limited facts, because of your obvious political inclinations.

Your own actions are the proof that such data should not be made public.



It's pretty irrational to assume that Trump isn't guilty of Bank and Tax Fraud or that there's 'zero proof'.  We have the NYTimes reports (including the one that won a Pulitzer for investigative journalism in 2018), we have documents, we know his personal lawyer and campaign chairman both went to prison for Bank and Tax Fraud.

Clearly you and your biased, lying cunt friends at the NYT know more and better than the IRS. Even though the IRS routinely brings criminal cases for tax fraud.

If the IRS chose not to bring a case, after either four or seven years have passed, the individual cannot be prosecuted.

With very rare exceptions, in the case of federal tax, it is the IRS who brings the case. However, they are a tax collection agency, not a vindictive, partisian prosecutor. Unless we are referring to the IRS under Obama, of course. They weaponized the IRS. A tax collection agency might wait a couple years on a suspect, then bring an audit, with the intention of maximizing tax collected through higher interest and penalties.

"we have documents..." You mean you've got documents that TRUMP GAVE TO THE IRS, which resulted in discussions, audits, corrections, tax paid.

Has it occurred to you that your complaint if it has any merit, should be with the IRS?

Really what you want is more of the partisian, political weaponizing of the IRS. A continuation of the Chicago Way, as OBAMA USED IT. GO AFTER THOSE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH YOU!

And Trump is just one of your targets, right? Why don't you give us the full list?



You should read the NY Times reports (including the one that won a Pulitzer for investigative journalism in 2018) (It's clear you haven't).

It's true most of the stuff can't be prosecuted in criminal court due to statute of limitations.  I'm surprised in your seemingly new found faith in the IRS' ability to audit and prosecute the wealthy and lack of faith in Trumps capability of getting away with crimes.
2478  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Presidential debates on: October 12, 2020, 12:33:34 AM
I also think Trump is a moron for skipping the virtual debate but oh well.
Trump's campaign never formally notified the commission on Presidential debates he was not going to participate. It was unilaterally cancelled.

Yeah, that's the line the Trump campaign is taking "They cancelled it, not us!"  Trump said he wouldn't do it though, he's the one that backed out.  I'm sure it's no coincidence that he suffered politically after the last debate and things have only gotten worse for him since then.  I suspect the measures they were going to put in place to prevent the second debate devolving into a train wreck like the first would've resulted in much of the same things he's complaining about it being a virtual debate.  He simply doesn't have the self control to restrain himself enough to have a civil debate without guard rails in place for him like a child.

2479  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Presidential debates on: October 11, 2020, 11:31:39 PM
IMO moving the debate to being "virtual" was intended to help Biden who would be able to use a teleprompter, and the moderator would be able to interrupt Trump when he is saying something they don't like. It was also intended to serve as propaganda to further the narrative that covid is so dangerous that someone infected cannot be in the same room, no matter how large as others who have not been infected yet.

You really believe this stuff you're typing?

The debate was virtual because Trump tested positive for covid.  The debate was cancelled because Trump didn't think he'd get a political win out of it - so he refused to participate.

The fact that Trump and his family/team have a history of simply ignoring local laws and guidelines to prevent the spread of the virus doesn't help either.

So yeah, it was to help Biden, and literally every other person that would've had to come into contact with team "don't worry about it".
2480  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ivanka Trump Implicated in NY Times Published Tax Scandal on: October 11, 2020, 08:08:39 PM
If something like that were the case and it were proven in future, it would ensure that no other President would ever be allowed to take office until their financial history were properly looked in to (far more than before) and candidate should ever be considered by any party until every single aspect of their financial dealing are laid out for all to see in order to ensure no conflict of interest and no corruption.

Trump did not even publish his tax returns, he should never have been allowed to stand as a candidate for any party.
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Here's the problem with your assertion. (one problem... there are others)

You've been non-stop slamming Trump's financial activities with zero proof, and very, very limited facts, because of your obvious political inclinations.

Your own actions are the proof that such data should not be made public.



It's pretty irrational to assume that Trump isn't guilty of Bank and Tax Fraud or that there's 'zero proof'.  We have the NYTimes reports (including the one that won a Pulitzer for investigative journalism in 2018), we have documents, we know his personal lawyer and campaign chairman both went to prison for Bank and Tax Fraud.
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