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2461  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do politicians take us for granted? on: November 06, 2019, 05:22:17 PM
The story here in most African countries is weird. Its like the only time these politicians seem to care is when election is approaching. They visit us, give us empty promises and a whole lot. Funny enough, they are voted for massively. Then once they are in power, we are out of the picture. In my country for instance, apart from what I was taught back in school, I cant really pinpoint the essence of the Legislature. From my observation, this has become a cycle. Its like instead of them bringing up policies that will improve lives, they waste resources just like that and master how to make us vote for them when the time comes.
My worry is, are we naive or thats just how the game of politics is played?

Why are you surprised?, Latin America is the same, my country is copying Zimbabwe in most things, especially the economy...

Maybe it has something to do that these lands were once colonies, maybe its the "too nice" weather of the tropics, i have no idea. The poorest countries unsurprisingly have the worst politicians and the most corruption.

And yes the politicians here do exactly as you describe, until they can mend things so they can remain in power regardless of elections...

If people protest they get killed. Who is going to defend the protesters, US? Russia? pff they are busy with their own matters. No one cares.

Sometimes there are internal disputes, mostly the military intervenes and a new gov is installed. Then things repeat all over again, never to improve. And you get people emigrating, which the "nice" countries complain about but do nothing of significance. People wouldn't be risking their lives emigrating if their country of origin conditions weren't so bad in the first place. But you know, sovereignty, allies, yadda, yadda, the UN is for decoration and endless speeches that amount to nothing. The Security council is a joke with the veto members, nothing ever gets done unless its some (no one cares) half island in the Caribbean no one bothers vetoing sending troops.

We all live in oppression by the State.
2462  Other / Politics & Society / Re: (Lack of) Privacy on: November 06, 2019, 04:56:30 PM
Hi everyone. I've been complaining a lot on here recently about surveillance capitalism, and about Facebook's foray into crypto. I thought it might be worth a quick post for those of you who are outside the EU, and so maybe aren't aware of just how much data all of these websites gather on us, and how much they share it (sell it).

In the EU we are afforded the limited (but welcome) protection of General Data Protection Regulation or GDPR - https://eugdpr.org The aim in theory is to give consumers some measure of control of the data that is held about them, and how that data is used. In practice a lot of companies are sidestepping the 'active consent' element with pre-ticked opt out boxes, or forcing users to either a) one-click to accept data gathering or b) enter a labyrinth of permissions and un-tick every single one, and then visit the website of each named affiliate and repeat the process there, ad infinitum. But at least it is more visible now.

Anyway, if you are outside the EU you may not get even this level of transparency, so I've pasted an example below in case it is of any use. Apologies if everyone is already aware of all this!
I picked a random UK newspaper website "The Sun"...

1) When you enter the site you can either one-click to accept everything, or else edit permissions. There is often no one-tick option to reject everything.

2) Choosing to edit permissions takes you to a page with menu options for other sub-pages, in this case 'strictly necessary' cookies, measurement, content, ads, information storage, personalisation. There is also a wall of text that gives a vague overview to put you at ease... data is "mostly" used to make the site work, information does not "usually" identify you, etc.

3) Choosing to 'view vendor consent' brings up the page below. This is the list of companies with which the website shares your data. Note the scrollbar, this first page only lists up to 'Ab'... there are many many more.

This cherry picking permissions sounds a lot of what you can do to all websites if you use the uMatrix browser add on.  This EU law may apply to EU sites, but what about non EU sites? You cannot enforce your EU laws there, they will track you to the ends of the Earth the same. In fact, the cookies thing i found most annoying, and there are specific browser add ons to REMOVE the question about cookies. I mean, I'm not an EU citizen, why would i have to be harassed to no end if i want to accept cookies? Most people should have already made this choice as most browsers still keep the allow cookies option in its config settings.

Besides, if you truly want to evade tracking, you have no choice but to use uMatrix or one of those "privacy modes" that discard everything when you end your session (same as clearing your data before quit). Unfortunately most track evasion goes its merry way once you log in. Especially the likes of Google, Microsoft, etc. Its not just Facebook, everyone seems to want IN the data mining business nowadays. They make you log in your browser, and often in your os.

These laws are on one side annoying, on another ineffective. Politicians simply cannot cope with technology, and they often make things worse. Let me guess, you are going to search these options in every single (EU) web site you visit? At least the uMatrix button is always in the same place, AND works across ALL world websites, not just EU. Yes it may be well intentioned, but dumb.
2463  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Car and Driver licensing on: November 06, 2019, 04:36:32 PM
You guys still have a nice law over there in the US. If you were in Europe you'd be surprised how shitty it is in here.
In most EU countries you can't

Drive a car when someone with a license is sitting next to you.
Can't learn to drive with your father, like children used to do. You have to be in the presence of a certified instructor, you can't be alone or with parents even on some country roads.
In some countries when you get caught driving without a license you can be denied the right to drive for a year or two.
You can't drive a fucking moped without a license, which is insane.
Even when you think you know how to drive, you can't take the exam. You have to pay for the course first.
You can't drive a small electric car or one of those chinese micro cars without a license.
You need separate insurance for every car. This means that if one person owns 5 cars he has to pay the insurance 5 times. Ridiculous!

I'd really prefer the US corde and your nice wide roads to the shit we have in the EU.

How about bicycles, do you need a license to ride those in public roads? I have seen them being popular in some EU countries. I wonder in what category does a bicycle assisted with a (small) electric motor falls into, motorbike? Are these insured too?

And, do those rules apply in private property? What if you own a large lot with a road?
2464  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife? on: November 06, 2019, 04:29:08 PM
Some people here wrote Christians won't do it, but you would be surprised. There are exceptions...

Monogamy was the norm among Christians, However, in the context of the sickness of a wife preventing matrimonial intercourse, the founder of the Protestant Reformation, Martin Luther wrote: "I confess that I cannot forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict the Scripture. If a man wishes to marry more than one wife he should be asked whether he is satisfied in his conscience that he may do so in accordance with the word of God. In such a case the civil authority has nothing to do in the matter."

Thing is, Christianity comes from Judaism, and Judaism practiced it. It was especially common in rulers, not just because they were rich, but to forge pacts and alliances with other countries etc.

By the time Islam came into being, polygamy was still practiced among their contemporaries, even Christians. But some simply never got married, because of celibate etc.

Today some Christian denominations/sects practice it. Most secular laws in the west forbid it, and in that case they do it "in private", to avoid the (secular) legal troubles.

In more recent times you see for instance kings in Africa, convert to Christianity, but they happen to have like 15 wives or so, they make exceptions (not letting him marry more, etc).

However, a small group of evangelical Christians in the West numbering 50,000 persons practice Christian polygamy, believing that the Bible glorifies this form of marriage, citing the fact that many biblical prophets had multiple wives, including David, Abraham, Jacob and Solomon. Individual evangelical Christian pastors throughout Christendom have married more than one woman. The Presbyterian missionary Harold Turner acknowledged that the practice of polygamy was a cultural norm in some parts of the world, such as Africa, and cautioned against Western Christian missionaries imposing the foreign cultural norm of monogamy on the Christians of Africa as the latter would lead to the sins of divorce, leaving children without both of their parents, and remarriage of the divorced wife.
2465  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can There Ever Be Too Much Decentralization? on: November 06, 2019, 02:55:44 PM
The other instance that get me wondering is sort of the inverse. I had a health issue a couple years ago, that because I found I could not rely on the medical establishment or doctors fully, I had to delve deep to learn everything I could about this situation. It is similar to the learning about 5G I described, in that I found I had to consult hundreds of sources in order to become my own authority on the subject. Because of that experience, I concluded it could be a great help to others dealing with the same health issue if I were to write an ebook to serve as a complete and comprehensive guide to all I had learned about the subject, since such a thorough guide does not yet exist or I would have found it. There is currently no single place one can go to in order to get all of the information I amassed, in one place.  So really what I am seeking to do, is to centralize that information, as I think that not everyone has the luxury of spending the crazy amount of time I took to gather and make sense of all this info (it was not really a luxury I had either, but I was forced to do it for sake of my health and sanity).  So what am I doing in creating that ebook if not centralization?

No. When you create this book, you are becoming "another node", ie. decentralization. Even if your book is just a recompilation available elsewhere that you painstakingly did the job to put together.

In centralization, you would not be allowed to make this book in the first place, because you have no authority to do so.

Many people go to Wikipedia when starting research on subjects, but even this is voluntary, and they are not really the source of information. Its mostly compiled information. While lesser known, there are some alternatives to wikipedia, and the countless web sites where people had the urge to share just as you did.

With the media, it has gone into the hand of the masses. You no longer need go to a few networks or traditional media to find about something. In the past, if it didn't show in your local news paper, radio or television, its like it didn't exist. Today we are in the "information" age. True, there is too much of it, there is even garbage, often purposely made to increase the noise ratio so that people get manipulated or misinformed intentionally, so you can no longer "trust" anything beforehand.

Of course not everyone can be an expert on everything at the same time. Interestingly this is the same dilemma faced by "direct democracy", no representation but direct governance. Some have proposed "voluntary delegation" on certain matters you trust people more of the subject. Imagine a Stateless country, they want to make a law, the "pairlament" is actually every single citizen, they get to discuss the proposal and vote online, what will your position be? Some subjects might be easy for you but others are way out of your league.

There is however a bigger chance today than in the past, to get more informed on any subject, you can always go online and search, but of course that also means learning to steer away from the trolls and spam and get the facts from as many points of view as possible to have some informed decision.

There was no chance to do this in the past, you might get some limited and outdated information from a local library, if you were lucky to be near one. So it goes both ways i guess, those people "had to rely on the educated" to make decisions for them. But now you could say, no thanks, I'll choose on this or that subject, perhaps on a issue by issue basis.

Yes, i know this idea by itself is polemic. There is the group that think uneducated masses could never make educated choices, and need to be "ruled" by those with proper knowledge, but even experts are not experts at everything. Heads of state often have people to advise them, not necessarily the best, but the ones they "trust" more...

And some are even worse, they now nothing but think they know all, or that the others are liars when it contradicts their dogma, its so much worse when such people happen to be in power, and cannot be removed anymore...
2466  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Need Antminer s9 serial connect to eliminate NEW VIRUS!!! on: November 06, 2019, 04:45:11 AM
For many miners, in a short time, the processor or the SD port was suddenly damaged? How high is the probability of simultaneous damage to processors (surprisingly coinciding with virus infection) in 10, 20, 50 or more miners at the same time (I know people who have this happened on several dozen miners)?
Are xininx bitmain control boards so unreliable?

They are not that unreliable, you are simply doing something wrong, but prefer to blame "the virus". But you are welcome to sell them for scraps, i know someone who loves buying those super cheap "damaged" S9 miners and "resurrect" them.

Or hire someone to fix them for you...

I seriously doubt you can't run bOS from the sdcard in all those "50" miners (as long as they are not the newer S9s).



I have the same problem for some Controller card.
Bring to technician, load new binary file using NAND programmer n replaced the old NAND.

back to live ..

Yes i have seen the bad nand syndrome before, but you can still run bOS from sdcard just fine in those, it is one sure way to find out the nand is damaged, because when you attempt to flash it from bOS web ui, then move jumper and reboot, it doesn't work.

This OP could have both the nand and sdport damaged, which is why the official method doesn't work either. Virus can't damage the port, but they could damage the nand. Many miners are run in conditions that rust gets to them, so a damaged port isn't that strange.
2467  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BITMAIN S9 BURNT TRACE ON BOARD on: November 06, 2019, 04:33:07 AM
so just bought a s9 from Fleebay and it worked for about 30 min before smelling like burnt electronics,
using ibm server core power supply on 220 it does 236+ amp to the 12 volt rail, so i doubt the power supply is the problem
flashed braiins os , and set it to default settings , all looked good, checked it 30 min later and the middle board was missing
thought i smelled burnt electronics , could be wrong as it was subtle.

so i have found only this damage

these are 2 diffrent boards, and the 3rd board seems to have different traces in that location

the one with less damage still hashes , but the one i scraped off the burt coating will not hash

and will not reconise the board at all

any help with this would be nice

i see in the case the boards must have grounded out

It is a bit late, but when you install BraiinsOS, the first thing you should do is uncheck the voltage setting and start lowering until you find the optimal value. BraiinsOS is manual, there is no self tuning, and those presets are not optimal. But maybe it was too late and the board was already damaged...

well my opinion on Braiins is this - slush promotes it, if slush users are starting to use it why is slush luck so bad? their firmware is so great and better should they not be doing better?

i would like to see if any Braiins users have actually found a block. most pools wont tell you which of their users found the block though - even though they could do so very easily. Also there are pools that will ban users for using non-official firmware, also not worth the risk in my opinion.

as for the stock firmware - it works, there is no stealing of hash rate or dev fee with manufacturer fw - yes they do block ssh and yea that pisses me off too - i used to use awesome miner to do a lot more with my miners - now I have to be on site.

if ssh is your main reason, then i understand.

BraiinsOS is one thing, using Slushpool is another. First I don't think that many bOS users use Slushpool, it is not even set as default, unlike Bitmain's that is set to Antpool nor there is a hidden dev fee like with other closed source firmware mods. There are large miners running bOS, with large bills, saying it doesn't find blocks is silly to say the least. But those miners like Chinese pools, what can i say?, Convince the kanopool users to use bOS when kano doesn't even like it, so he can tell you if they actually find blocks or not? You would need to ask Viabtc and the others to know if they really do find blocks or not.., or convince a large miner to temporarily switch pools and conduct the experiment, but they can't "risk" switching to a PPLNS pool for a month or so, catch 22... But, its actual cgminer in there, check the code...

Speaking of that, they are attempting to improve on stratum, once they finish replacing cgminer with theirs, you can then test if their idea is worth or not, either directly against their pool, or via (their) proxy against classic stratum pools. One thing they seem to be working with is the idea of a more compact, (proxyfied?) data stream, perhaps helping reduce the latency to large miners. These things will become more obvious next year when they release bosminer officially.

While some people keep whining, at least the Slush guys are coding and sharing. Less words and more action.
2468  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: antminer s7 & s9 jihack on: November 06, 2019, 03:20:19 AM

I don't have the exact explanation on how or why, but i think that part of the code the don't let you flash the firmware does not execute the moment the miner starts, I don't know ! but long story short, I had to flash the firmware before the data on the miner's  status page show up, if I wait long enough for it to load up , the flash won't work ( I assume someone with a better understanding on S9 firmware will have a logical explanation).

... and not allow any non linux computers in the LAN.

Agreed, but first he needs to fix the problem , not allowing any non-linux pcs won't fix the existing problem now, it's a great security practice but only works before the miners get infected.

This sounds interesting enough that doing it slowly while taking a look at the infected controller should give the reason. Perhaps the malware is running a script and is waiting for a condition to occur. You could populate /etc/hosts with 127.0.0.1 sha256.jp.nicehash.com (and friends) and let it never find where nicehash is. I wonder if you could then catch and examine the running process?

Chances are whatever infected the miner could still be running in the LAN, you have to get rid of it. And the malware itself could still be propagating from infected controllers and windows pcs.

Does Nicehash support some way of reporting rogue accounts? This malware account should be suspended immediately...
2469  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Need Antminer s9 serial connect to eliminate NEW VIRUS!!! on: November 05, 2019, 10:58:33 PM
I tried to load the infected s9j miner from the SD card (all jumpers are installed correctly). Its behavior is the same - loading from the memory card is blocked and the green and red LEDs on the front panel are constantly on (as if the processor could not find a suitable boot device).
I checked the memory card in another miner that is not infected with the virus. Download braiins-os was successful.
Thus, it is confirmed that the matter is not in NAND memory and not in a bad SD card, namely, in some way the virus blocks the loading of the operating system from any possible devices, except for the NAND flash, which is installed on the board.
As I understand it, no one has come up with a way to deal with this? It’s very sad when you have many such control boards (I imagine if this happens with professional miners on hundreds of devices!)

The virus cannot do this. You probably have a damaged controller, or just a damaged sd port as suggested above. Once you move the jumper its like you don't have the nand, it reads the sd card at boot and executes whatever is in it.

It doesn't happen to anyone at all. Just get a new controller and be done with it.
2470  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: antminer s7 & s9 jihack on: November 05, 2019, 10:43:08 PM
I don't understand why you come with this "as fast as possible, try to do it in less than 10 seconds" instruction. The correct way to get rid of malware, is not letting it in in the first place. If you boot a linux computer, disconnected from internet, and plug the miner DIRECTLY to it, you can perform this safely without expecting to win a race against malware.

Hoping that your LAN is somehow slow enough to not infect you in time is not wise at all.

OP should disinfect all miners this way, and not allow any non linux computers in the LAN.
2471  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: What is the most stable firmware? on: November 05, 2019, 10:27:24 PM
Then obviously 2018, Oct~Dec has asicboost. To "bring dying boards", then perhaps Braiins OS with options to disable failing sensors, or carefully adjust your speed and voltage to find the optimum values. bOS is currently S9 to S9i, nothing newer, no hydros, no T9s or R4s etc at least until after they finish replacing cgminer with bosminer next year when they will start adding units like the S17, etc.

The other firmwares have dev fees, and you don't want that anyway, no matter what bells and whistles they promise.

Also cleaning the boards often bring them back to life, don't ask why, but I have seen it. Wash them with water and soap and leave them to dry, (output from another miner works great as dryer) just like that some magically return to life...
2472  Other / Off-topic / Re: Deleted Posts on: November 05, 2019, 05:20:12 PM
You will get yourself deleted (again) and possibly banned, don't bother. Besides this is supposed to be discussed only in Meta.

If you get banned, you can only appeal by email (it shows when you try to log in), if you make another account to circumvent the ban and force your message across, you might not get much empathy.
2473  Other / Off-topic / Re: Marijuana should be legalized.? on: November 05, 2019, 05:14:23 PM
Does anybody want government controlling the comb in your pocket? How about the shoes you wear. How about your clothes everyday? How about the car  color your car is? How about a million other free choices you make. If you like that kind of control, join the military. Or move to Communist China.

Why do you want government to control your marijuana by legalizing it? Get them out of your ability to make free choices. Get them to repeal all laws against marijuana, without making any to legalize it. Be free to use it any way you want... even free to grow it if you want.

Legalizing isn't freedom.

Cool

People who don't know what is right or wrong must be under government rules.

You tell them. Humans need to be State police oppressed, or else they will do what is not good for them...

This freedom stuff is overrated, why won't there be a world omnipotent ruler and be done with it? Computer AI you say? Hmmm....
2474  Other / Off-topic / Re: VPN for Netflix watching on: November 05, 2019, 05:07:14 PM
All this trouble to be able to pay Netflix and pay a VPN provider, and you wonder why people go back to torrents. On a second thought, those "blocked" countries usually don't bother prosecuting downloaders.

For example Cuba State television broadcasts movies and series downloaded online (you can sometimes spot the release group name), and they even have an specific "movies" channel. Same thing occurs in my country on a somewhat smaller scale (also State owned television). Of course you can go to the street (yeah its not prosecuted, they have formal shops and all) and buy optical media (BD or DVD) from material downloaded online, this is the most used path for the poor, without good internet or tv subscription. And even with "good" (not capped) internet, its often too slow for live streaming anyway, but you can wait a day or so for a movie to download here. Oh and i don't think a 6 USD monthly wage is good enough to pay Netflix 8 USD + VPN...

I think this mess is due to the lawyers and "IP rights" managing people. Sometimes, rarely they see reason and relax restrictions, such when dealing with the mighty Chinese market (where they can't prosecute people anyway).

I don't think anyone but some lawyers in Netflix want to block countries, but its probably stepping on someone Else's profits, the hypocrisy of it all is nauseating. Then again Netflix also does it to others with their own content, due to "commercial agreements".

When i find myself with good internet, i end playing online games rather than watching movies anyway. They have to compete with that market segment too, oh and the tons of free streaming, where even esports live streams are gaining worldwide popularity.

This is the music downloads thing all over again, how Napster (as trashy as that was) disrupted the labels model. Now its the movie studios model that has become obsolete. And people in the States are cutting subscription tv en mass, switching to streaming or going elsewhere (ie online games and back to on air "free tv").
2475  Other / Off-topic / Re: I want JOB!!!!! on: November 05, 2019, 04:23:40 PM
If you can't find a job in your desired area, you can always become a "lumper," and unload semi's at truck stops. The work is back-breaking, but if you don't overdo it, it's good for your health. And the pay can be quite reasonable.

Cool
Nice advice but the question is ,does the country from where OP is living have the same rate as where you are staying? Remember that each countries offers different wages

Yes, and i live in the country with the extreme low. Think 6 USD a month, with 6 more in "food stamps" (the equivalent of). With full time jobs paying that, you are literally forced to try and make your living (honestly) online, or emigrate (which is why we have lost 20% of the population in the past 5 years or so). If you are a "professional", with university degree and all, you may earn... about twice that.

The beauty of it is that this is a self proclaimed "socialist" government... State exploitation makes private ownership of the means of production look ideal. Ah, those days you could eat some meat once a month, its what the poor (vast majority) think today.

Today is another day for rice and black beans, because proteins are an imperialist tool of domination, and with our "resistance" we are "winning" the "American economic war!"... Yeah right. Too bad they got the guns and you have to obey or else...

Mind you, those in power are fat pigs. Not unlike the soviet bloc in the past.
2476  Other / Off-topic / Re: Electric Cars and The Future on: November 05, 2019, 03:02:32 PM
I am 100% sure that alternative energy cars will replace the "mechanical" ones sooner than most people expect. I'm looking to a 5-10 years window in the developed countries and 10-20 in the developing ones. However I highly encourage people to keep a diesel alimented car in their "backyard" if anything happens and we're left without electricity.

It is normal to make significant moves towards a cleaner tomorrow and the cars are the principal guilty ones for pollution. Just think how fresh it's going to be the air once we get rid of fossil combustible alimented cars.
Regarding the best brand I think Tesla is and will remain the leader of the electric cars industry. They have a very smart CEO with vision.

Electrics are still mechanical, for the most part. But rather than burning dinosaur juice to make it explode endlessly to push pistons which move wheels, electrics just pass current thru winded wire which generates magnetic movement. Incidentally the opposite generates electricity, that is, forcing movement to a magnet winded by copper... If you do this with the dinosaur juice guzzler, you just get some braking and a lot of farting like noise (just try 1st or 2nd gear downhill, no brakes) which is just inefficiently burnt fuel. At least the electric can recover some of the spent energy that it spent climbing that hill...

So it all amounts to the efficiency of the batteries. In the Li-ion era, the likes of Tesla were made possible. Several previous attempts involved very heavy liquid chemical based solutions, but its power/density ratio left a lot to be desired. Now even your typical cellphone/laptop battery is pushing the cars. These batteries are getting improved all the time, and Tesla invested big in manifacturing, bigger than everyone else. Consider the largest was Panasonic, and Tesla invited THEM to joint build the largest plants for manufacturing these. Better, longer lasting batteries helps not just the cars, but any application where storage of energy is needed, such as in renewable power generation where a buffer is needed to compensate natural fluctuations in generation (ie. wind/tidal speed change or daily hours).

Some other types of batteries have been theorized and proposed, but they have yet to achieve mass production and reliability. Examples could be chemical liquid based (including dinosaur juice), or Hydrogen. I somehow rather prefer solid state energy storage than liquid or gas that could leak... Of course dinosaur juice guzzlers have always carried flammable fuel onboard...

Also you assume diesel would always be found around the corner. I'd rather give you the advice of keeping a bicycle or horse instead... Do you still keep your film camera just in case? I hope you know how to develop your own film, all you need is a dark room, chemicals, sheets, patience... Of course you can make your own diesel, but it might take you a while...
2477  Other / Off-topic / Re: ANARCHO-TRANSHUMANISM "A Maximum Seizure of Efforts" on: November 05, 2019, 02:24:07 PM
I wonder if gene modification/engineering is also part of trans-humanism? The likes of Star Trek (Gene Roddenberry?) saw this with great fear, not unlike some people see the evolution of AI with fear (Terminator's Skynet and whatnot).

Gene manipulation has a lot of potential and also a lot of controversy, not unlike clones. And of course, the "failures"...

I know that the likes of Elon Musk want humans to enhance with cyber-implants and such as a way to cope with AI.

Also, Anarchists are not necessarily opposed to (private/individual) capitalism, its the State.
Yes, that is also part of trans-humanism which will create Homo-Deus species. But that is not in line with Anarcho-Transhumanism. They want to concentrate all decisions in the hands of AI especially for the distribution of resources. The problem is that there is no perfect AI, and if it's all left to AI for decisions without human control, it's the same as having a machine president.

Oh i see, i have a friend with that same thinking. So you mean, the Anarcho-transhumanists would replace the free market with computer AI? Does that even need the trans-humanist element at all? Wouldn't that be some sort of computer controlled society?

In theory you could even do this without AI, with clever code, and like Bitcoin, use a blockchain to execute it.

I have always thought this could be necessary for smaller space colonies or generational ships, were resources are far more limited than on Earth, perhaps not unlike the smaller anarchy attempts in towns of Spain etc.

Interestingly this could be simulated in MMO games today. The games spawn limited amount of resources and remove waste by code the players consume, and get rewarded in proportion to their effort (ie, a grinder has higher chance to find a rare item), and in many cases the price of goods is fixed or heavily influenced by game code.

Online computer games can be a great tool in trying and simulating the communities of tomorrow. Once AI gets good enough, you could even leave the bigger (in-game) decisions to it. Hmm now that i think about it this reminds me of the Alicization arc of Sword Art Online, which is the story of such a game (and its an actual research).
2478  Other / Off-topic / Re: ANARCHO-TRANSHUMANISM "A Maximum Seizure of Efforts" on: November 04, 2019, 04:37:39 PM
I wonder if gene modification/engineering is also part of trans-humanism? The likes of Star Trek (Gene Roddenberry?) saw this with great fear, not unlike some people see the evolution of AI with fear (Terminator's Skynet and whatnot).

Gene manipulation has a lot of potential and also a lot of controversy, not unlike clones. And of course, the "failures"...

I know that the likes of Elon Musk want humans to enhance with cyber-implants and such as a way to cope with AI.

Also, Anarchists are not necessarily opposed to (private/individual) capitalism, its the State.
2479  Other / Off-topic / Re: Electric Cars and The Future on: November 04, 2019, 04:25:16 PM
this article writes about the list of car companies that are developing electric cars.

I want to ask you, do you think that electric cars are useful for the future and the survival of humanity on earth?



nb; if there is a topic that is the same as this, then I will immediately delete this topic, thank you

Yes, they are useful, but not for survival of humanity. Humans can live without cars for that matter.


Electric cars are like digital vs analog cameras, or CRT vs LED screens, etc. There are so many analogies, but it seems the "common" people are far more close to cars. It took a while for photographers to recognize and eventually accept digital photography, same thing here.

They certainly take less resources, not too much less if the country generates electricity burning fossil fuel, but less none the less.

Start with the basics, take a look at a combustion engine vs electric motors. The complexity of the first vs the simplicity of the second. As a driver, you will immediately notice the amount of extra maintenance steps no longer needed. An electric car only uses some oil for the driving wheel, and even this nearly optional.

You see, direct mechanical direction is becoming a thing of the past, and that's when you actually drive the car yourself... Same as many other input methods are no longer direct, the gas and the brakes, these made their way into conventional cars. You push the gas pedal and you are no longer pulling some lever inside allowing more gasoline flow like it used to be. no. Modern cars today are pretty much "by wire", with the "inputs" being more or less glorified digital controls that tell a computer the intention of the driver (ie, accelerate), same with braking.

Take a simple toy electric car, and you are looking at a simplified version of what you will be driving. It has a battery, it has en electric motor, and wheels. Add direction and brakes, mostly for regulatory reasons. Tesla cars are known to brake plenty with regenerative braking, meaning, if you release the pedals, the car doesn't coast as much because the regenerating of energy happens to make the car slow down so much that people call it 1 pedal driving (ie: just push to accelerate, release to brake). Many people claim they can drive without ever touching the mechanical brakes, especially when regenerative braking is set at its highest regenerative level (it can be softened/disabled). If you know car mechanics, try to digest the magnitude of simplicity this entails. You do know Tesla doesn't even bother with gear changes? Of course they don't electric motors are very efficient which is how they found their way into Rail locomotion so early in the 20th century and ever since (No diesel locomotion engine remains that drive directly the wheels, all they do is put an electric motor and a diesel generator next to each other). This is because the electric engine is so powerful under varying loads already.

So you end with: Car body, wheels, battery bank, electric engine directly attached to wheel (no transmission), lights, chairs, windshield a single digital screen (optional) and you are pretty much done. Elon Musk had a chance when he started Tesla, to move humanity into electric cars. When he started, electric cars were still seen as toys with much disdain. It took him alone to prove them wrong, as the big manufacturers didn't care, and he delivered, and the big guys now how no choice but to follow, and this is why you see many brands jumping in.

To accelerate things, the efficient electric motor patented by Tesla has been given away for anyone to use. The patent is only used defensively, anyone is welcome to use it without paying royalties, not unlike Free Open Source software.

Did i mention that, going to a gas station to "fill" disappears from your life? The idea with the electric car, is that you plug it anywhere you park. So you will see more and more parking with electricity, and less and less gas stations. Think of, places where you used to go develop your photographs, in the past these shops were all over the place, now they are hard to find, if any remain. Or you could think of VHS rental shop, now that there is digital streaming, the likes of blockbuster, once staple of living, are no more.

In the following years you will see the combustion car quickly diminish at an accelerated rate. Business like restaurants to attract customers will make sure all their park space has electric plugs, kinda like you wouln't go to a shop without wifi anymore.

And yes, the lovers of "vroom" would claim how this is the end of the world, that cars are "not fun anymore", but such is progress. It has happened to so many things already, new generations will simply not know about it. Did you know the military doesn't teach morse code anymore? Yup, it remains in movies, just like the telegraph, the record player, vhs... Maybe the television will follow, who needs it when everything is streamed online? Aside from being a glorified big display with a tuner, that tuner is having less and less use, or the ones used by cable box, digital and all, are a thing of the past. Because there is no point in getting 500 channels when you are only going to watch only a few for few hours, and its what they want not what you want anyway.

I say we are no longer waiting for the future, the cars exist, we have entered in the phase of massive global-scale adoption. China is probably coming with cheaper, shorter ranged (and probably not as safe as Tesla) electric cars, but good enough for commuters. Of course it doesn't help that Beijing is smoke city...

It will simply become too cumbersome to keep running combustion engine cars anymore. Think of this, your VHS is broken, you need to take it for repairs, can you find a repair technician quickly? Not anymore right? Those that remain are the old people who used to do it in their glory days. Same with cars.

Love it or hate it, electric cars have arrived. Be thankful if you are still allowed to direct the wheels, because self driving is also making tremendous advance. Google (renamed Alphabet/Waymo) already envisioned a car that is essentially a chair with a tablet on wheels. No wheel, pedals, no nothing. You tell it where you want to go, and off it goes. You might say that was too early but i expect this to return once the things are considered safe enough...
2480  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: See a bitcoin/crypto scam site? Don't just ignore it. Report it. on: November 04, 2019, 01:29:48 PM
Thanks for this reminder. But the reality is that it won't just take a little time. In Telegram alone, volumes of messages are in promotion of scams. This forum alone must also have its fair share, especially in the altcoin section. In Facebook, Reddit, and Twitter, scams related to cryptocurrency are also very rampant.

But I guess everybody in this crypto community should start spending at least a little random time for this. I think it is the responsibility of each member of the world's crypto community to keep it clean. Let's all start reporting Bitcoin SV!  Grin

Telegram is easy to configure to not accept messages from unknown people (too bad its not the default). And when you get a PM from someone in one of the groups you joined, you just do the same thing as in IRC: Ignore it by default.

Its hard for people to switch from "real life" "trust" model, to the online "trust no one" model. This is a social engineering exploit. Some exchanges have chats on Telegram, one day you join and report some problem, suddenly a PM comes impersonating "support", well guess what, its a phishing attempt. Usually support is given in public, for very good reason. Don't share login password credentials, etc. You can report the user and get it banned, but they have an army of fakes ready to pray on the next victim...
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