Monero is only the vehicle for the next phase of the cypherpunk/crypto-anarchist/radical capitalist/anti-authoritarian r3VOLution.
 Some of us openly have government jobs (despite being small potato peons) and have security clearances to worry about, so as a matter of record I personally would strongly disagree with all of those statements. Call it whatever you like though, fortunately math is not a matter of opinion.  I personally believe we will see $2,000 Moneros by 2020, possibly a little higher. I think $20,000 Moneros come before 2025, and $200,000 Moneros come before 2030. These time tables might move a lot faster depending on a variety of factors. I think that I can see what Monero's 'fractal shape' might be though... and well,  Try rephrase it in ounces of gold or acres of land. For all we know 1 trillion $ might only buy a loaf of bread in those years. |
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I'm a long term supporter of Dash and whilst I ceased involvement some time ago for unfortunate reasons I hope the longer standing members of the community know that I still support Dash as a project.
However, the information about Evolution that has been released so far has left me feeling unexcited. There is no meat on the bones. I believe that the dev team are saying that further details will be restricted for a while for reasons of commercial protection which they are quite entitled to do. Unfortunately this doesn't quite add up for me.
I look forward to reading the whitepaper when it is released. As it stands, the information released so far is uncharacteristically vague compared to the innovation announcements that the Dash team have made over previous years. There are perfectly reasonable explanations for this but for the first time in a long time I'm not completely sold on what is going on.
It certainly took you long enough to notice the things that vertoe called " fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity." But better late than never. As for Evan Scamfield's ostensible "reasons of commercial protection," Nick Szabo already busted that myth, long ago. Anybody who
thinks they can flesh out a protocol in secret and then
deploy it, full-blown and working, is in for a world of
hurt."
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Kind of crazy folks are saying the masternodes are centralised though, there's over 3000 of them now and its growing all the time. Go waste gamble on Monero Dice since this is the only thing you're good at over there.
Monero haters with no good but to cry*p*to here...should at least work on ur coin instead. Dash is way above you it is not the reason why ur doing so shitty on the marketcap...maybe it's because u and ur developers wasting time on forums and not doing any marketing *Unless you call spreading flyers on DASH presentations is actually PR/Marketing LOL* OR any development so you cry out loud on anything Evan and he's team does I bet if Evan says tomorrow I'll do xyz you will still be here saying NOOOO you can't do this because because ...we jealous.  -->
I think each person needs to decide whether you/they are investing long term or trading short term. If you are investing long term, then you cant react to every small piece of news, that is probably going to hurt you, don’t react emotionally to what you read in the forums. Assess the situation and then respond, yes we are now open source, and someone found a way to skew the masternode payments in their favor and will probably make 100 or 200 DRK out of that, the problem has a very limited scope and is not worth reacting to, is not threatening to the network at all. Evan will patch it and we move on. Only consequence a few masternodes will miss some payments while the patch is deployed, why is it such a big deal?
There is a new solution for payments already on testnet, this issue is really contained, it looks like someone will get a new PS4 out of it or something. Is that reason to dump your 100K investment? Think more before you act.
Fairly sure BagHolder010 doesn't really have a 100K investment. I am sure you are correct, I was just putting some perspective out there for lurking investors and newcomers. Please buy my order at .02 Mintpal because I am FAIRLY sure you won't. I would be happy to get my BTC's back even thou BTC prices are down. Another annoying delusion that people seem to keep sprouting on here is the "just wait" mentality, or "to the moon". As though we're always just moments away from some huge price surge or mass adoption.
Get real. It's a fallacy and you're living in dream land.
Every top cryptocurrency has done nothing but decline the entire year of 2014. That's the reality. There is less steam now then there was last Christmas and most that steam last Christmas was a bubble instigated by the Chinese.
Just my take on the situation
I look at it the same way but I'm stuck lol. I see the same people here talking and talking and most of them bought at what half a dollar? I've spent over $150,000 when price was above $10 because I thought to myself wow this coin actually have potentials because of all these updates from Evan unlike ANY other coin including BTC. I hate it when someone talks immature specially when they write your ignored very silly to me. I kept asking myself how did BTC go from $5-7 to $30 & then up to $120...To buy 10,000 Darkcoins at price $50 is half million dollars. Who do you think needs Darkcoin more than the Chinese now, Most of us here live in Europe or NA and most of us don't have issues with showing our money to our governments in fact people here kept saying what kind of cars they wanna buy when price goes up? What I want from Evan now is to have a true marketing team in East Asia heavily in China and promote your coin because this group won't take us no where. Plus if Evan can't do the marketing thing let expert do it for you spread out; Evan looks like he's developing inside a basement of he's parents house! Ohh and Jams probably Josha since he can't come here again after he's mistake hhhhh Wow so this guy had DASH on mintpal and spent $150,000 on dash when they were above $10 each? |
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Fat Tay Choon went to the Mining Academy in Brazil, east of Satoshi's yurt, where Gavin was kidnapped by the CIA's goons and forced to pretend fucking an anonymous decentralized biscuit—better than all the fish in the Pacific Ocean—but also to defray leeches intelligently with ECDSA fighting qubits for 16.8 dree12, or Phinnaeus must fling toilets towards psy‐ops, without potato smoothies mixed with fried chicken wings from BitMunchies.com, urbanchickennj.com, and Popeye's Bitcoin wallet, which deleted Satoshi's premine ability to cheer very victoriously, none like Butterfly Labs better enabled, but also Pirate crashing AIR applications without the express use of interest-free scams, conspiring with fraudulent sockpuppets and PPTs and..., you troll-herding piece of Shiitake mushroom, go lick Goat's horns until Theymos admits to having a quite erotic fetish involving honey badgers wearing thongs composed of soggy burlap waffles dangling from cosmic linoleum-based iphones running quantum chips explodes spewing deadly acid! b!z screamed out "Light is bright like...like... stars." When Markjamrobin opens the isolated window, he sees three pigs together in bed. Kouye and myself laugh when chinese food falls the impact kills Obama Bin ladin whoever thinks he may be terrorist, is correct but hates the bitcoin logo. Earth has snakes. Currently, the other species have decimated to tiny groups called "marko solo" whatever time it all comes and ends? However, Bitcoin's acidity level dipped causing catastrophic double-spends!
Meanwhile, AntiOps was confused by the awkward change to his penis melting uncontrollably. Vanilla Ice perfume spritzed onto cheese and greasy slime covered with babies boiled in a smelly old heatsink. But it tasted like shit therefore it poisoned his blood although he did survive. Reproductive organisms attacked the internal testicle which caused terrible congestion somehow. Evolution then terminated the smelly old business thank the inability of AntiOps to lock Satoshi's thread. In a transactional forum there was a debate about hacking unprotected accounts, however the debate shortly ended.
Phinnaeus Gage, king pluto, duke of the people. Returned one of his loans that he fraudulently claimed without declaring intentionally. Although this was bullshit. Earth was hit by a meteor which cause catastrophic events which cause people to cause mass destruction by proxy voting it was documented recently on the news that oranges are disguised anti-gravity pockets which have giant bears attacked Zeus because bitcoin accidentally crashed to Mars which created spaceships and aliens who pretended being humans wearing hats on their toes.
Altcoin suck on apples and oranges too. Megacoin is the most shit sucker of apples and melons ever. Most people love to troll others. Evolution is a slow process which created forks. It is beneficial to wash your feet because it distributes bacteria and oil, notwithstanding the beneficial attributes which are how chocolate arouses some of the miners brains. Today was an abysmal event which caused many abnormal but not smart bitcoiners because many of them are cute animals who were insane because of excessive oreo consumption. One watermelon is not love how people try me explotation Maybe Heisenberg Breaking bad control guy director or masturbation my time vampire drinks urine not lemon tek and water supernatural.
LEALANA is fat looking because pizza is sour with pickles which are sexy and never rot. So many people eat pizza it's unbelievable. The news said that pizza is bought mainly with anchovies which results in big wet weather which had massive gusts of wind with pouring milk down on everyones throat because it feels great! Although honey is very sweet taste it makes when it is served hot it melts softly but slowly.
The universe is populated with many planets which were destroyed by pirateat40. Cyborgs then warped to the zoo and ate mushroom with a aerospace technician. Bitcoin has used a lot resources from peoples although people smell like melons.
Ipods suck. Androids rule. Altcoins also suck peanuts. Bitcoin is the greatest idea that has ever been created by man although litecoin sucks? Once upon a time Gandalf went to wal-mart to dry her hair. Minecraft is the best game in universe because chickens cluck. 231134421 is one crazy big ass monkey. What is with people posting replies still. Terraria is a crazy game which requires extreme concentration. This can result in health cubes; Parentheses are a pain in the brain. This noodle is disgusting. Although spaceships cry waterfalls they are magical little elves. Golden towns is very annoying and smell like bacon. Celebrities are awesome and smart. But, evolution taught us that butterflys are ugly.
Vitamin D is important to scam Taras and raise taxes which would cause the world to go crazy but not insane. Obama is the president now. Alot of gamers will illustrate sony that nintendo is leading the infiltration of Iran. Microsoft Windows was salivating pedophiles of the coastal farts. Yet the banana shrank. What was doge poo doing under the bridge with bridge cleaner? He was just he's aren't because something something different like seems incorrect, because we fucked. Yet prunes prunes are very bad lad's yet unknown to fuckers SWEARING. Banana monkey is not virgin-horse. Corn.
This disappoints satan more than satoshi because he ate hydrochloric pools and he fucked whores who are sick shemales shemales shemales BANGCOCK! God smited non-believers with dicks on a stick. They shat together sitting upside-down flicking birdies. Baezl'bub slept with Hitler inside a bomb ticking furiously and hodling. That was awesome. Bitmit made belt so that walruses can shit on his dick and eat mushroom full of wonderful shit, he HODL'd BTCs and Dogecoin with a succubus sperm from first blowjob stories.
Nefarious words spoken shit at bitcointalk and destroyed uranus with a big-ass Spaceship mouth that eats goats flying shuttle that revolves expressly and quietly to hell. Gamma flux destroyed Litecoin with a barracks producing Atreides shit and Kadafi. Same Binladen puppet goxed clients sucking lollipops shaped like mixed frapuccino lids. Goku start this fight prematurely in Odessa Klondike's yard. Winter is not shitty. Gooches. Seven. Humanity sold pubes to Zeus. Nevertheless, Cinnamon was crying. Millennium breakdown caused diversification methheads cardinally. Hyper-inflation, epidemics with marshmallows made by government chodes and yeah. The End. No. Yes. Lies. Stop. Can. Do aliens have any bitcoins? No. Instead, PPC acts quickly like FTL shit, riffraff toys.
Miracles happen like cannibals spitting sinew and elephants which innocent love and shit has never fucked up! Dank has killed bysexuals... wait, when did Karpeles said/say McDonald's sucks? Colonel Tom sex-machine The 3.14159265358th must fook anything that goes into a section. Beaware of spellcheckers. Fantômas portuguese are sobriquet of Fernão who called them Coads-nigs! They say we are azoth, biblical tittynopes who can't mine the janiceps'. He biblically took Rosenzweig and ended this game. And then wanked, wanked clitoris next door. This was done. Moreover, crack was rapidly dephosphorylated due to complications anhidrotically, metaphorically whores go mooooooooo and ahhhhhhhhhhhhh while jon snow watch has ended this thread for good.
Not... Actually, maybe futuristically, Vod (MIA) sailing CASASCIUS up Padma Lakshmi's waxed butt and... Nevermind, but acknowledging that Gavin held security. This marks, categorically, that will create scientific controvertist of global heliolatry problems indistinguishably noticeable filipino heritage, unbeknownst to Slenderman XT phenomena. GLEB sucked smoothie's brains using juicy zombies, dicks, Popsicles, and alien vaginas to rotten flesh of Vod. Meanwhile, giant marsupials are having suicidal sex appeal for four tentacles, watching child whoopee. Therefore, vegetables are unpretentiously super[...]docious. Fruits are rotten potatoes, avouchment vouched x10 malware because aliens kidnapped JarJar, mercilessly LeFodorliar and Gleb Gamow lived days along seashore, Theymos abused his Authoritah by forcing a purple pill To Fly! Serendipitously, awsome! Then I started UFOing on their ass, savagely. But, it is impeccable to realize I farted psychedelic asparagus smoothies. However, Mexico is shit and... Rephrase that, corporations syria declared terrorists irreproachable because malevolence misappropriates monetary suffrage suggesting termination.
Meanwhile, yogurt spill has begun to fall onto houses and cars, hawkishly attempting to grab two crayons, inserting phallic Popsicles® into Theymos' abysm until... POOP! The excruciating pain took aeons to appreciate plethoric folliculitis silvestris poop generator. Why nidificate the indigenous spirit called "erection"? Prepossessingly, pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis a discomfortable endoplasmic tumescent pineapple tree branch rectally QuickSeller escrow. Involution, presumptuously titin pop up inconsiderately - Tuesday - when pokemon (Pokémon)'s Pikachu flashbacked borders dementia caused horrendous pain inside Agumon's PocketPussy™.
Daft Punk punked Dank with pussy heavy hookah shot whilst levitating abroad oceans blue that fadedly waved the unseen quote yet cited. Unjust superexcrescences excuses me because of Neotox produced such force by Poseidon's Trident of Taured. Now, albeit-albeit DARKCOIN-SCAMCOIN but tried to interlock coins out of your anal cavity filled lordly exponentially with bold pumpkins wiggling back to school days yesterday morning. Onomatopoeias ate language. Rigveda inside coupons collectively jumped over the "Core Mission". Pussies annihilate doge.
Pythons and anacondas don't squirt unless you got into buns coin phlegm on their tongues. Why did GLEB touch my vault extravagantly? I galumphed after midnight parade on my horse galloping in reverse to realize "holey-moley". Forgotten equines maybe because MONERO promotions failed for several days made before ends of christmas so that it won't morbidly end happily at all. Overlord espials all within the safehouse CRACK and maths are increasingly hard to ejaculate onto pomegranates with penises flying about. Suddenly, Nikko realised, "SHIT! ...Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, AGAIN!"
We shall never, NEVER go back beepbopping again. Then afterwards, Zelda found prophylactics transforming Macarena calisthenics to defeat her Herculean strenght - strength mispelled porpoisely - with Who (Doctor) movie scaring the fuck out of Casper. Time Lord fag get net work for Nicholas Tesla who's balls bounce before he collapsed after scratch the boobs of Vod. Vod never realized that was something amiss with quikseller of bitcointalk site escrow because he penetrated to the secret vault of stat and doubled the the bitcoins of the prison where Nakamoto lives imprisoned sans serif comics. Polymorphism, exhibitionism? No! NO! Exterminate! what the hell is happaning? Why did Satoshi die? It was because he farted on Lady "Gaga" Godiva.
Junior Samples make a wonder filled with excitement: Call Saul (BR549). Breaking Bad epitomizes the entirety of the methamphetamine movement. Alexithymia is putrid like smelly whit of publicity stunt whoopie such fail in mining field lockers that hentai sites gangbang with Hatsune Miku tentacles. The feelings I encountered when I meet the president, Millard Homomorphicity IV, I eyed him quizzically. Once Upon a Midnight afternoon when Gonzalez unwillingly took the rulebook down to Alabama and shat shit on the NASCAR while ca333 aka Bubba Kaninski filmed awesome rims.
Smoothie once lethargically stroked Phinnaeus Gage Vod where buffalo barrage claims cowpatties slapped with Limburger [poison] cheese. Poteepopoppooh kicked Kack in walnuts
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Bitcoins provide a simple and elegant payment way and method. But, people still doubt on its privacy or fungibility. I would like to clarify here why btc provides more fungibility
(1) No fear of stealing-- btc aren't coins, which a small kid can take out from your pocket
(2) More secure -- It's considered more secured as most wallets can be protected by PIN, and no fear of getting hacked.
(3) Many methods of earning-- Earning btc is easy as many websites pay you for posting and visiting their sites, whereas for real cash , u need to do some hard work.
The thing is, even though bitcoin per se is secure, platforms that operates with bitcoin aren't, making bitcoin look insecure to the average masses. With recent hacks and thefts in the bitcoin ecosystem, the word bitcoin isn't even appealing to the people (unless there is a massive rise in price). It is fungible and secure, but not fool-proof that make it look like it's not gonna work in our current society. Bitcoin is as fungible from the users standpoint (humans) as they allow it. If there is the ability to discriminate about 1 BTC vs another 1BTC because the first BTC came from a history of crime related activities...bitcoin is no longer fungible. Bitcoin is secure if you make sure you keep your BTC safe and offline. |
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Bitcoins provide a simple and elegant payment way and method. But, people still doubt on its privacy or fungibility. I would like to clarify here why btc provides more fungibility
(1) No fear of stealing-- btc aren't coins, which a small kid can take out from your pocket
(2) More secure -- It's considered more secured as most wallets can be protected by PIN, and no fear of getting hacked.
(3) Many methods of earning-- Earning btc is easy as many websites pay you for posting and visiting their sites, whereas for real cash , u need to do some hard work.
1. Fungibility has nothing to do directly with stealing, but interchangeability and the inability to discriminate one bitcoin vs another bitcoin. Being not able to steal BTC easily through the blockchain has no bearing on fungibility. 2. Not getting hacked and security also has nothing to do directly with fungibility. 3. Earning btc on many websites also has nothing to do with fungibility. |
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i guess there will always be a fight between privacy and regulation.
but we are just in the beginning of it all. Zerocash sidechain....confidential transactions on bitcoin mainchain....alot of stuff is coming. nobody knows how this will play out.
I'm fairly certain most of the Coinjoin, CT, etc will never be mandatory in the protocol of bitcoin. I mean let's be real the devs of bitcoin and the community can't come to consensus of a single line of code to change the block size max. |
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I just saw a quote by a user that Monero has an "opaque blockchain" which I don't think is correct.
Monero has a private blockchain, in the the sender and receiver are always protected from knowing each other, but (correct me if I'm wrong here) the amount of money moving across the blockchain is still visible in some respects.
If someone sent 300,000 Monero across the blockchain, then observers would be able to see that a large amount of money moved today but not be able to pin it down to a particular user or transaction time (with proper mixin settings)
I thought that with the new CT ring developments coming out, people wouldn't be able to tell what amount of monero is being transacted unless you have the right key which shows you the amount for that particular transaction? Wouldn't this be a non issue with the upcoming developments? In theory yes. It has not been implemented yet into monero so testing needs to happen over months to come. For now AP is right you can see how much is moved and when. But not who sent to who specifically. Also you can't really tell it moved between two people. Much of it could be change going back to the sender and it could be someone moving from one wallet to another. Above comments about CT are correct. However, even with CT, using math an observer can still verify that the coins spent are equal to the coins received. You just can't tell the number. This is assuming you have the "Amount Key"? No. The equality sum(in)-sum(out)-fee=0 is independently verified by every node or any observer without any key. To explain in simplified terms how this works, there is a random blinding term x, which is secret. Ignoring fee here for simplicity: hidden_in = real_in + x hidden_out = real_out + x Of course real_in - real_out = 0 But hidden_in - hidden_out = 0 i.e. (real_in + x) - (real_out + x) = 0 also hidden_in and hidden_out are visible on the blockchain. (Magic crypto math means that you can't do something silly to break this like solve for x.) Okay so because you know the outcome of the equation you can just verify the result and check to see if it lines up with what is expected without knowing the actual amounts transferred. |
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Fat Tay Choon went to the Mining Academy in Brazil, east of Satoshi's yurt, where Gavin was kidnapped by the CIA's goons and forced to pretend fucking an anonymous decentralized biscuit—better than all the fish in the Pacific Ocean—but also to defray leeches intelligently with ECDSA fighting qubits for 16.8 dree12, or Phinnaeus must fling toilets towards psy‐ops, without potato smoothies mixed with fried chicken wings from BitMunchies.com, urbanchickennj.com, and Popeye's Bitcoin wallet, which deleted Satoshi's premine ability to cheer very victoriously, none like Butterfly Labs better enabled, but also Pirate crashing AIR applications without the express use of interest-free scams, conspiring with fraudulent sockpuppets and PPTs and..., you troll-herding piece of Shiitake mushroom, go lick Goat's horns until Theymos admits to having a quite erotic fetish involving honey badgers wearing thongs composed of soggy burlap waffles dangling from cosmic linoleum-based iphones running quantum chips explodes spewing deadly acid! b!z screamed out "Light is bright like...like... stars." When Markjamrobin opens the isolated window, he sees three pigs together in bed. Kouye and myself laugh when chinese food falls the impact kills Obama Bin ladin whoever thinks he may be terrorist, is correct but hates the bitcoin logo. Earth has snakes. Currently, the other species have decimated to tiny groups called "marko solo" whatever time it all comes and ends? However, Bitcoin's acidity level dipped causing catastrophic double-spends!
Meanwhile, AntiOps was confused by the awkward change to his penis melting uncontrollably. Vanilla Ice perfume spritzed onto cheese and greasy slime covered with babies boiled in a smelly old heatsink. But it tasted like shit therefore it poisoned his blood although he did survive. Reproductive organisms attacked the internal testicle which caused terrible congestion somehow. Evolution then terminated the smelly old business thank the inability of AntiOps to lock Satoshi's thread. In a transactional forum there was a debate about hacking unprotected accounts, however the debate shortly ended.
Phinnaeus Gage, king pluto, duke of the people. Returned one of his loans that he fraudulently claimed without declaring intentionally. Although this was bullshit. Earth was hit by a meteor which cause catastrophic events which cause people to cause mass destruction by proxy voting it was documented recently on the news that oranges are disguised anti-gravity pockets which have giant bears attacked Zeus because bitcoin accidentally crashed to Mars which created spaceships and aliens who pretended being humans wearing hats on their toes.
Altcoin suck on apples and oranges too. Megacoin is the most shit sucker of apples and melons ever. Most people love to troll others. Evolution is a slow process which created forks. It is beneficial to wash your feet because it distributes bacteria and oil, notwithstanding the beneficial attributes which are how chocolate arouses some of the miners brains. Today was an abysmal event which caused many abnormal but not smart bitcoiners because many of them are cute animals who were insane because of excessive oreo consumption. One watermelon is not love how people try me explotation Maybe Heisenberg Breaking bad control guy director or masturbation my time vampire drinks urine not lemon tek and water supernatural.
LEALANA is fat looking because pizza is sour with pickles which are sexy and never rot. So many people eat pizza it's unbelievable. The news said that pizza is bought mainly with anchovies which results in big wet weather which had massive gusts of wind with pouring milk down on everyones throat because it feels great! Although honey is very sweet taste it makes when it is served hot it melts softly but slowly.
The universe is populated with many planets which were destroyed by pirateat40. Cyborgs then warped to the zoo and ate mushroom with a aerospace technician. Bitcoin has used a lot resources from peoples although people smell like melons.
Ipods suck. Androids rule. Altcoins also suck peanuts. Bitcoin is the greatest idea that has ever been created by man although litecoin sucks? Once upon a time Gandalf went to wal-mart to dry her hair. Minecraft is the best game in universe because chickens cluck. 231134421 is one crazy big ass monkey. What is with people posting replies still. Terraria is a crazy game which requires extreme concentration. This can result in health cubes; Parentheses are a pain in the brain. This noodle is disgusting. Although spaceships cry waterfalls they are magical little elves. Golden towns is very annoying and smell like bacon. Celebrities are awesome and smart. But, evolution taught us that butterflys are ugly.
Vitamin D is important to scam Taras and raise taxes which would cause the world to go crazy but not insane. Obama is the president now. Alot of gamers will illustrate sony that nintendo is leading the infiltration of Iran. Microsoft Windows was salivating pedophiles of the coastal farts. Yet the banana shrank. What was doge poo doing under the bridge with bridge cleaner? He was just he's aren't because something something different like seems incorrect, because we fucked. Yet prunes prunes are very bad lad's yet unknown to fuckers SWEARING. Banana monkey is not virgin-horse. Corn.
This disappoints satan more than satoshi because he ate hydrochloric pools and he fucked whores who are sick shemales shemales shemales BANGCOCK! God smited non-believers with dicks on a stick. They shat together sitting upside-down flicking birdies. Baezl'bub slept with Hitler inside a bomb ticking furiously and hodling. That was awesome. Bitmit made belt so that walruses can shit on his dick and eat mushroom full of wonderful shit, he HODL'd BTCs and Dogecoin with a succubus sperm from first blowjob stories.
Nefarious words spoken shit at bitcointalk and destroyed uranus with a big-ass Spaceship mouth that eats goats flying shuttle that revolves expressly and quietly to hell. Gamma flux destroyed Litecoin with a barracks producing Atreides shit and Kadafi. Same Binladen puppet goxed clients sucking lollipops shaped like mixed frapuccino lids. Goku start this fight prematurely in Odessa Klondike's yard. Winter is not shitty. Gooches. Seven. Humanity sold pubes to Zeus. Nevertheless, Cinnamon was crying. Millennium breakdown caused diversification methheads cardinally. Hyper-inflation, epidemics with marshmallows made by government chodes and yeah. The End. No. Yes. Lies. Stop. Can. Do aliens have any bitcoins? No. Instead, PPC acts quickly like FTL shit, riffraff toys.
Miracles happen like cannibals spitting sinew and elephants which innocent love and shit has never fucked up! Dank has killed bysexuals... wait, when did Karpeles said/say McDonald's sucks? Colonel Tom sex-machine The 3.14159265358th must fook anything that goes into a section. Beaware of spellcheckers. Fantômas portuguese are sobriquet of Fernão who called them Coads-nigs! They say we are azoth, biblical tittynopes who can't mine the janiceps'. He biblically took Rosenzweig and ended this game. And then wanked, wanked clitoris next door. This was done. Moreover, crack was rapidly dephosphorylated due to complications anhidrotically, metaphorically whores go mooooooooo and ahhhhhhhhhhhhh while jon snow watch has ended this thread for good.
Not... Actually, maybe futuristically, Vod (MIA) sailing CASASCIUS up Padma Lakshmi's waxed butt and... Nevermind, but acknowledging that Gavin held security. This marks, categorically, that will create scientific controvertist of global heliolatry problems indistinguishably noticeable filipino heritage, unbeknownst to Slenderman XT phenomena. GLEB sucked smoothie's brains using juicy zombies, dicks, Popsicles, and alien vaginas to rotten flesh of Vod. Meanwhile, giant marsupials are having suicidal sex appeal for four tentacles, watching child whoopee. Therefore, vegetables are unpretentiously super[...]docious. Fruits are rotten potatoes, avouchment vouched x10 malware because aliens kidnapped JarJar, mercilessly LeFodorliar and Gleb Gamow lived days along seashore, Theymos abused his Authoritah by forcing a purple pill To Fly! Serendipitously, awsome! Then I started UFOing on their ass, savagely. But, it is impeccable to realize I farted psychedelic asparagus smoothies. However, Mexico is shit and... Rephrase that, corporations syria declared terrorists irreproachable because malevolence misappropriates monetary suffrage suggesting termination.
Meanwhile, yogurt spill has begun to fall onto houses and cars, hawkishly attempting to grab two crayons, inserting phallic Popsicles® into Theymos' abysm until... POOP! The excruciating pain took aeons to appreciate plethoric folliculitis silvestris poop generator. Why nidificate the indigenous spirit called "erection"? Prepossessingly, pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis a discomfortable endoplasmic tumescent pineapple tree branch rectally QuickSeller escrow. Involution, presumptuously titin pop up inconsiderately - Tuesday - when pokemon (Pokémon)'s Pikachu flashbacked borders dementia caused horrendous pain inside Agumon's PocketPussy™.
Daft Punk punked Dank with pussy heavy hookah shot whilst levitating abroad oceans blue that fadedly waved the unseen quote yet cited. Unjust superexcrescences excuses me because of Neotox produced such force by Poseidon's Trident of Taured. Now, albeit-albeit DARKCOIN-SCAMCOIN but tried to interlock coins out of your anal cavity filled lordly exponentially with bold pumpkins wiggling back to school days yesterday morning. Onomatopoeias ate language. Rigveda inside coupons collectively jumped over the "Core Mission". Pussies annihilate doge.
Pythons and anacondas don't squirt unless you got into buns coin phlegm on their tongues. Why did GLEB touch my vault extravagantly? I galumphed after midnight parade on my horse galloping in reverse to realize "holey-moley". Forgotten equines maybe because MONERO promotions failed for several days made before ends of christmas so that it won't morbidly end happily at all. Overlord espials all within the safehouse CRACK and maths are increasingly hard to ejaculate onto pomegranates with penises flying about. Suddenly, Nikko realised, "SHIT! ...Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, AGAIN!"
We shall never, NEVER go back beepbopping again. Then afterwards, Zelda found prophylactics transforming Macarena calisthenics to defeat her Herculean strenght - strength mispelled porpoisely - with Who (Doctor) movie scaring the fuck out of Casper. Time Lord fag get net work for Nicholas Tesla who's balls bounce before he collapsed after scratch the boobs of Vod. Vod never realized that was something amiss with quikseller of bitcointalk site escrow because he penetrated to the secret vault of stat and doubled the the bitcoins of the prison where Nakamoto lives imprisoned sans serif comics. Polymorphism, exhibitionism? No! NO! Exterminate! what the hell is happaning? Why did Satoshi die? It was because he farted on Lady "Gaga" Godiva.
Junior Samples make a wonder filled with excitement: Call Saul (BR549). Breaking Bad epitomizes the entirety of the methamphetamine movement. Alexithymia is putrid like smelly whit of publicity stunt whoopie such fail in mining field lockers that hentai sites gangbang with Hatsune Miku tentacles. The feelings I encountered when I meet the president, Millard Homomorphicity IV, I eyed him quizzically. Once Upon a Midnight afternoon when Gonzalez unwillingly took the rulebook down to Alabama and shat shit on the NASCAR while ca333 aka Bubba Kaninski filmed awesome rims.
Smoothie once lethargically stroked Phinnaeus Gage Vod where buffalo barrage claims cowpatties slapped with Limburger [poison] cheese. Poteepopoppooh kicked Kack
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I just saw a quote by a user that Monero has an "opaque blockchain" which I don't think is correct.
Monero has a private blockchain, in the the sender and receiver are always protected from knowing each other, but (correct me if I'm wrong here) the amount of money moving across the blockchain is still visible in some respects.
If someone sent 300,000 Monero across the blockchain, then observers would be able to see that a large amount of money moved today but not be able to pin it down to a particular user or transaction time (with proper mixin settings)
I thought that with the new CT ring developments coming out, people wouldn't be able to tell what amount of monero is being transacted unless you have the right key which shows you the amount for that particular transaction? Wouldn't this be a non issue with the upcoming developments? In theory yes. It has not been implemented yet into monero so testing needs to happen over months to come. For now AP is right you can see how much is moved and when. But not who sent to who specifically. Also you can't really tell it moved between two people. Much of it could be change going back to the sender and it could be someone moving from one wallet to another. Above comments about CT are correct. However, even with CT, using math an observer can still verify that the coins spent are equal to the coins received. You just can't tell the number. This is assuming you have the "Amount Key"? |
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So much for decentralization if you rely on Evan to do pretty much all the hard work.
What if he were to be hit by a bus tomorrow? How would the project move on?
Doesnt it seem odd that there is no decentralized core team for dash development? Just one man? <---am I wrong?
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Even Evan said he is trying to bring it to the protocol level as opposed to masternodes. I think it is too late at this point. His design is probably too far gone to get it to that point without starting completely over.
Why too late? The only coin where it seems to be too late to change anything is Bitcoin. It took Evan quite a while to figure out that the masternode concept is broken one And that he needed to implement privacy tech into the protocol itself. The Q&A video he mentions that he wants to get away from the masternode concept. Why even go towards that route if you now want to distance yourself from it? Seems like he did not think that through very well. |
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Wow that idea sounds horrible (if it isnt yet already implemented).
Only ASIC factories could mine? Hmm that sounds pretty centralized and gives no reason to have people join mining because they would have this barrier to entry (a factory hall with cheap electricity) plus specialized hardware a specific caliber before you could mine.
Sure you can call it "distributed" but if someone owns a majority of the hashpower because they own a fuckton of ASICs then you now have a problem.
Agreed fully. No ASICs so far and its likely most folks would support changes to make them useless should anyone start making them, not sure how hard a fork at that level would be to implement but if a fork could do it then it's not a problem as forks have been handled gracefully in the code for a long time now. That was only a thought off the top of my head on preventing anyone with dominant hashing power taking over, changing things so the only way anyone can point hashing power at the network is through a pool run by the masternodes but I've done practically no mining so I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Kind of crazy folks are saying the masternodes are centralised though, there's over 3000 of them now and its growing all the time, that's over half the number Bitcoin has already and folks are looking at Bitcoins node count and worrying its heading towards centralisation someday, that's tens of nodes, not thousands and they're spread out all over the world. if we're not careful it could tend towards large numbers being hosted with the same VPS providers and that's something anyone setting up a MN will see warnings about when they read up on it, there's talk of methods to hide MN IPs to protect against that but I've no idea on the details. EDIT: Its hard to know where all the angst against Dash is coming from, there's only a couple of the regular trolls posted in this thread so far but the number attacking it in the main thread is incredible. There's some obvious sour grapes at having missed the boat or having overstretched themselves on other coins and see Dash as a competitor but that's only really at the edges of the hate. I think the biggest issue is Dash puts speculators out of the loop, the masternodes hold the liquidity instead of the markets and that makes it very difficult to pump and dump and manipulate the crap out of, some of those coins are never coming out from making interest in safe storage so they'll never get their hands on them  doesnt matter how many masternodes. You are trusting another person to make sure your transaction is handled correctly or that the VPS provider doesn't just F up the nodes they have on their platform/servers. You could have 10,000 masternodes and those issues still exist. Even Evan said he is trying to bring it to the protocol level as opposed to masternodes. I think it is too late at this point. His design is probably too far gone to get it to that point without starting completely over. |
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This is worth reposting here as it gives a take from the inner circles of dash dev team etc at a point in the past and the issues that made this supposed dev leave the dash project altogether: So yes there is ideology behind this coin : privacy, liberty, freedom, try to make the world less directed by "power" and more with the heart...
I hope that changing the name will not make the ideology behind it change too, otherwhise it will failed.
There's no ideology in something that nobody uses. The ideology's in the design, not the name. Vertoe is justified in leaving over not being consulted but less so over 'ideology'. It's not a rock song that's being built here it's electronic money. The name can easily be compromised without any loss of principle but the functionality can't. So Evan has got his priorities right in that regard. no. i left because i disagree darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity. it never was but i ignored it as long as darkcoin was following the same path i was following. the path to total financial privacy. and thats why i am so upset about how this currency is lead by a single person. darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid. evan duffield. the rebranding using a detergent name was just a step forward in creating something like apple or paypal. fuck this i tell you. what we need is a trustless, decentralized and anonymous currency. darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person. and this reaches deep into the code base. the core devs were just a bunch of volunteers exploited for the big thing. the extended darkcoin team was the same with even a lower place to sit on that pyramid. and what was the darkcoin foundation again? right, something to reserve some rights on some names and collect money. who nominated and voted for the foundation board? who does even know who are these guys? how did we learn about the foundation? from local news papers! the team listings kept counting names of people nobody ever noticed before. and they never committed anything visible to the community or the repository. and i was spending 25 hours a day monitory everything that happened in the darkcoin community for more than a year. the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity. i will get out and and will contribute to something decentralized and anonymous. i always hoped darkcoin could fill that void. i cant blame anyone to stay with this project. you are probably investors trying to win a gold donkey. or you are simply trying to exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space. whatever. you are not here because darkcoin is something it claims to be. if you disagree with my statement above, i dont care, but answer that simple question: what if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning? good luck |
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If you are looking for privacy in your transactions try Monero.
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I just saw a quote by a user that Monero has an "opaque blockchain" which I don't think is correct.
Monero has a private blockchain, in the the sender and receiver are always protected from knowing each other, but (correct me if I'm wrong here) the amount of money moving across the blockchain is still visible in some respects.
If someone sent 300,000 Monero across the blockchain, then observers would be able to see that a large amount of money moved today but not be able to pin it down to a particular user or transaction time (with proper mixin settings)
I thought that with the new CT ring developments coming out, people wouldn't be able to tell what amount of monero is being transacted unless you have the right key which shows you the amount for that particular transaction? Wouldn't this be a non issue with the upcoming developments? In theory yes. It has not been implemented yet into monero so testing needs to happen over months to come. For now AP is right you can see how much is moved and when. But not who sent to who specifically. It is important that Monero implement CT before anyone else. What other coin is working on adding CT? None I am aware of. But i wouldnt be surprised if one is trying to implement it quietly |
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... Idk, crypto baffles me but I'd imagine it'd be possible to limit mining to the masternodes and use them as a distributed p2pool.
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Wow that idea sounds horrible (if it isnt yet already implemented). Only master nodes could mine? Hmm that sounds pretty centralized and gives no reason to have people join mining because they would have this barrier to entry (1000 dash) plus specialized hardware a specific caliber before you could mine. Sure you can call it "distributed" but if someone owns a majority of the masternodes because they own a fuckton of Dash then you now have a problem. |
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From the looks of it the only differences are that there is the option to have the coin shipped for $10 instead of the usual $30, however the coin will be shipped in an insecure method, as well as the fact that there is no specific end time for the auction so it could potentially come to an end at any time "on or around" October 26th, 2015......is this correct?
yes that is correct. |
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Pythons and anacondas don't squirt unless you got into buns coin phlegm on their tongues. Why did GLEB touch my vault extravagantly? I galumphed after midnight parade on my horse galloping in reverse to realize "holey-moley". Forgotten equines maybe because MONERO promotions failed for several days made before ends of christmas so that it won't morbidly end happily at all. Overlord espials all within the safehouse CRACK and maths are increasingly hard to ejaculate onto pomegranates with penises flying about. Suddenly, Nikko realised, "SHIT! ...Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, AGAIN!"
We shall never, NEVER go back beepbopping again. Then afterwards, Zelda found prophylactics transforming Macarena calisthenics to defeat her Herculean strenght - strength mispelled porpoisely - with Who (Doctor) movie scaring the fuck out of Casper. Time Lord fag get net work for Nicholas Tesla who's balls bounce before he collapsed after scratch the boobs of Vod. Vod never realized that was something amiss with quikseller of bitcointalk site escrow because he penetrated to the secret vault of stat and doubled the the bitcoins of the prison where Nakamoto lives imprisoned sans serif comics. Polymorphism, exhibitionism? No! NO! Exterminate! what the hell is happaning? Why did Satoshi die? It was because he farted on Lady "Gaga" Godiva.
Junior Samples make a wonder filled with excitement: Call Saul (BR549). Breaking Bad epitomizes the entirety of the methamphetamine movement. Alexithymia is putrid like smelly whit of publicity stunt whoopie such fail in mining field lockers that hentai sites gangbang with Hatsune Miku tentacles. The feelings I encountered when I meet the president, Millard Homomorphicity IV, I eyed him quizzically. Once Upon a Midnight afternoon when Gonzalez unwillingly took the rulebook down to Alabama and shat shit on the NASCAR while ca333 aka Bubba Kaninski filmed awesome rims.
Smoothie once lethargically stroked Phinnaeus Gage Vod where buffalo barrage claims cowpatties slapped with Limburger [poison] cheese. Poteepopoppooh
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