I think you should invest in dogecoin mate.
So doge. Wow. Why such coin? because it's the best ponzi out of all of them  There are pump and dump, not ponzi So is Bitcoin then. false logic. there is a very good reason why bitcoin could succeed over the others. the network effect. I hate repeating myself. |
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really good sentiment. also, we dont need 99% to use it for it to become an important money transfer tool. leave it to the firms. |
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This is elliot wave analysis. it does not entail anything only gives potential price targets near the end of waves. the market responds in predictable ways to unexpected fundamental shifts. but the shifts are still unpredictable....
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I think you should invest in dogecoin mate.
So doge. Wow. Why such coin? because it's the best ponzi out of all of them There are pump and dump, not ponzi oh play along with us sir. Knight. |
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I think you should invest in dogecoin mate.
So doge. Wow. Why such coin? because it's the best ponzi out of all of them |
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I think you should invest in dogecoin mate.
any other questions just ask Proudhon.
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If governments ever went with a crypto, they would first make damn sure it's under their full control and regulation or else they're no longer governing anything.
And how do you expect governments of the world to reach an agreements to launch a fully international crypto? They might have each their own national crypto just as well, with all sorts of country-specific regulations and variations. You cannot create a national crypto. the internet is borderless. If you are talking about a centralised national crypto, well there is nothing special about that idea. A specific government's recognition and support will make it appealing to the masses, and that's what will make it very special. Don't you "pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands"? Because the masses fucking do. yeah just like the system we have now. everyone loves that system.... A national centralised currency will change nothing. bitcoin can bring down that system. I dont pledge alliance to any flag especially the USA..... |
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If governments ever went with a crypto, they would first make damn sure it's under their full control and regulation or else they're no longer governing anything.
And how do you expect governments of the world to reach an agreements to launch a fully international crypto? They might have each their own national crypto just as well, with all sorts of country-specific regulations and variations. You cannot create a national crypto. the internet is borderless. If you are talking about a centralised national crypto, well there is nothing special about that idea. |
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Which number seems implausible to you? The current world's population? The number of bitcoins that will exist? 2.1E10 divided by 7E9? Cause they're pretty much facts, aren't they, unless I made an arithmetic error?
Sometimes I think the color of the sky seems implausible, especially at sunset, nevertheless it is what it is. It hardly seems worth arguing that established facts seem implausible.
Bitcoin's eventual mass adoption is implausible to me. If bitcoin doesnt appeal to the mainstream, then none will. Bitcoin is the friendliest decentralised currency to regulation. If you are asking for a centralised crypto like googlecoin. go for it. but that will be unacceptably vulnerable to attack, and prone to corruption like our current banking system. Bitcoin can appeal to the mainstream, just leave that up to the software developers. Governments will never give up their monopoly on money, and with the government bans, Bitcoin won't appeal to the masses. The masses find their comfort in governments and always turn to them for guidance, advice, and comfort. The government dont have a choice. you cant beat maths with guns. they cant stop anybody owning and using a crypto graphic currency. The government also acknowledges that this technology is here to stay. they are not talking about centralised cryptos, they are talking about decentralised cryptos - and bitcoin is the front runner. They have incentive to embrace bitcoin too, because they do not want it to be replaced by a crypto with a tumbled public ledger that will be harder to regulate. If governments ever went with a crypto, they would first make damn sure it's under their full control and regulation or else they're no longer governing anything. you are talking binary - anything is possible. bitcoin will expel only the corporate part of government. thats the bit that costs us the most, and the bit we need least. Rome fell...... china fell...... USA will fall..... |
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Which number seems implausible to you? The current world's population? The number of bitcoins that will exist? 2.1E10 divided by 7E9? Cause they're pretty much facts, aren't they, unless I made an arithmetic error?
Sometimes I think the color of the sky seems implausible, especially at sunset, nevertheless it is what it is. It hardly seems worth arguing that established facts seem implausible.
Bitcoin's eventual mass adoption is implausible to me. If bitcoin doesnt appeal to the mainstream, then none will. Bitcoin is the friendliest decentralised currency to regulation. If you are asking for a centralised crypto like googlecoin. go for it. but that will be unacceptably vulnerable to attack, and prone to corruption like our current banking system. Bitcoin can appeal to the mainstream, just leave that up to the software developers. Governments will never give up their monopoly on money, and with the government bans, Bitcoin won't appeal to the masses. The masses find their comfort in governments and always turn to them for guidance, advice, and comfort. The government dont have a choice. you cant beat maths with guns. they cant stop anybody owning and using a crypto graphic currency. The government also acknowledges that this technology is here to stay. they are not talking about centralised cryptos, they are talking about decentralised cryptos - and bitcoin is the front runner. They have incentive to embrace bitcoin too, because they do not want it to be replaced by a crypto with a tumbled public ledger that will be harder to regulate. |
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Oh, one of those. Bitcoin is not a pyramid anything. It's not a ponzi either. Get your definitions straight, read up on how bitcoin works, come back in two weeks and present your findings.
I've been reading about Bitcoin for over half a year and have no slightest doubt about it being a pyramid scheme, along with all altcoins. Why do you come to a bitcoin forum, call bitcoin a ponzi and then ask us for our good advice on which ponzi scheme is better? you are not speculating, you are gambling. It's not a ponzi or a pyramid mate..... Whatever, I have my strong opinion and I'm not into arguing about its nature. It's nonetheless a lucrative object of speculation to me, and so are the altcoins. No one really needs them for payments - one can make payments with the more conventional tools in a lot more convenient way. Yet touting and speculating the hell out of it is the way to go. If you did your research you would know that bitcoin has the potential to save firms billions of dollars in transaction fees and widen profit margins for large corporations. It is a billion dollar industry and eventually it will be more convenient and cheaper than using a credit card. |
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Which number seems implausible to you? The current world's population? The number of bitcoins that will exist? 2.1E10 divided by 7E9? Cause they're pretty much facts, aren't they, unless I made an arithmetic error?
Sometimes I think the color of the sky seems implausible, especially at sunset, nevertheless it is what it is. It hardly seems worth arguing that established facts seem implausible.
Bitcoin's eventual mass adoption is implausible to me. If bitcoin doesnt appeal to the mainstream, then none will. Bitcoin is the friendliest decentralised currency to regulation. If you are asking for a centralised crypto like googlecoin. go for it. but that will be unacceptably vulnerable to attack, and prone to corruption like our current banking system. Bitcoin can appeal to the mainstream, just leave that up to the software developers. |
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Oh, one of those. Bitcoin is not a pyramid anything. It's not a ponzi either. Get your definitions straight, read up on how bitcoin works, come back in two weeks and present your findings.
I've been reading about Bitcoin for over half a year and have no slightest doubt about it being a pyramid scheme, along with all altcoins. Why do you come to a bitcoin forum, call bitcoin a ponzi and then ask us for our good advice on which ponzi scheme is better? you are not speculating, you are gambling. It's not a ponzi or a pyramid mate..... |
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Too late? Did you read the article that came out today about how most people have not heard of Bitcoin yet? [Suspicious link removed]j.com/moneybeat/2014/02/05/most-people-still-dont-know-what-bitcoin-is-and-dont-care-to-know/
This is still in the early adoption phase, regardless of how it feels to us that are involved with it!
Sure you can speculate with altcoins for the fun of it though.
I am only in it for speculation, credit cards are more convenient for payments. I need a crypto where I could get in early and speculate the hell out of it, like the early Bitcoin adopters did. What is my best shot? sorry thats a paradox. the reason they are cheap is because they are highly likely to fail in bitcoins shadow. if you dive into a cheap crypto, you will only get what you paid for. As a speculator you should also not be afraid of big numbers because they really dont mean much when you have an asset that has doubled in value 16 times. That's why I feel it's already too later to get into Bitcoin, with its current daily volumes having dramatically fallen. Bitcoin itself has been in the shadow of precious metals and national currencies just like the other cryptos have been in the shadow of Bitcoin. With some proper marketing and touting at offline conferences, any altcoin has a good chance to pyramid sufficient Bitcoin-like hype - LiteCoin being one successful example. To say that any other asset overshadows bitcoin is incorrect. Bitcoin is the first of it's kind, and appeals to a different and wider market than precious metals (for example) Altcoins follow the price of bitcoin. Bitcoin is leading the way. If you feel you are too late for bitcoin, then quite frankly, it's too late for the others. But you are not too late! I just hate the idea of paying hundreds for something others got for less than a dollar. I'm sure many others hate this idea too - many more than those who like it. For this reason, I see it as too late. a good speculator is not intimidated by big numbers. I think you need to think a bit harder about the implications of your trading psychology. Bitcoin can still go to $10,000 quite easily. No, bitcoin it not a pyramid scheme. the majority of the others must fail, and hence they are pyramid schemes. |
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Bitcoin is higher priced because people believe it is MUCH more likely to survive. Remember, cheap has two meanings: low cost and low value. The altcoins are worth less because they are more likely to become worthless in the long run.
If you absolutely must have low priced coins, your best choice is millibitcoins. They are still under $1 right now. There will only ever be 2.1E10 mBTC, with the world population of 7E9, which means someday the average person in the world will have 3 mBTC. If you buy 300 mBTC and hold until mass adoption, you will have 100 times the wealth of the average person.
Another excellent coin is the satoshi. You can get 125,000 for $1 right now! What an awesome deal!
Nicely put  Mass adoption is laughable, most of the world are not libertarians and wouldn't adopt something unregulated. They actually need the nanny state to take care of them all the time. The numbers you've provided are implausible - if true, there would be just way too many Bitcoin billionaires in the world. try do the maths then. and no, the richest man made by bitcoin is only around 100million. |
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Too late? Did you read the article that came out today about how most people have not heard of Bitcoin yet? [Suspicious link removed]j.com/moneybeat/2014/02/05/most-people-still-dont-know-what-bitcoin-is-and-dont-care-to-know/
This is still in the early adoption phase, regardless of how it feels to us that are involved with it!
Sure you can speculate with altcoins for the fun of it though.
I am only in it for speculation, credit cards are more convenient for payments. I need a crypto where I could get in early and speculate the hell out of it, like the early Bitcoin adopters did. What is my best shot? sorry thats a paradox. the reason they are cheap is because they are highly likely to fail in bitcoins shadow. if you dive into a cheap crypto, you will only get what you paid for. As a speculator you should also not be afraid of big numbers because they really dont mean much when you have an asset that has doubled in value 16 times. That's why I feel it's already too later to get into Bitcoin, with its current daily volumes having dramatically fallen. Bitcoin itself has been in the shadow of precious metals and national currencies just like the other cryptos have been in the shadow of Bitcoin. With some proper marketing and touting at offline conferences, any altcoin has a good chance to pyramid sufficient Bitcoin-like hype - LiteCoin being one successful example. To say that any other asset overshadows bitcoin is incorrect. Bitcoin is the first of it's kind, and appeals to a different and wider market than precious metals (for example) Altcoins follow the price of bitcoin. Bitcoin is leading the way. If you feel you are too late for bitcoin, then quite frankly, it's too late for the others. But you are not too late! |
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Bitcoin is higher priced because people believe it is MUCH more likely to survive. Remember, cheap has two meanings: low cost and low value. The altcoins are worth less because they are more likely to become worthless in the long run.
If you absolutely must have low priced coins, your best choice is millibitcoins. They are still under $1 right now. There will only ever be 2.1E10 mBTC, with the world population of 7E9, which means someday the average person in the world will have 3 mBTC. If you buy 300 mBTC and hold until mass adoption, you will have 100 times the wealth of the average person.
Another excellent coin is the satoshi. You can get 125,000 for $1 right now! What an awesome deal!
Nicely put |
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Too late? Did you read the article that came out today about how most people have not heard of Bitcoin yet? [Suspicious link removed]j.com/moneybeat/2014/02/05/most-people-still-dont-know-what-bitcoin-is-and-dont-care-to-know/
This is still in the early adoption phase, regardless of how it feels to us that are involved with it!
Sure you can speculate with altcoins for the fun of it though.
I am only in it for speculation, credit cards are more convenient for payments. I need a crypto where I could get in early and speculate the hell out of it, like the early Bitcoin adopters did. What is my best shot? sorry thats a paradox. the reason they are cheap is because they are highly likely to fail in bitcoins shadow. if you dive into a cheap crypto, you will only get what you paid for. As a speculator you should also not be afraid of big numbers because they really dont mean much when you have an asset that has doubled in value 16 times. |
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Don't be a fool. The price is determined by supply and demand, the entire world population is the target demographic, and there is less than a tenth of a percent that use it right now. Bitcoin is going to become worth at least a hundred times what it is now within years. You won't find anything with a similar ROI.
Bitcoin is too anarcho-libertarian/cultist to go mainstream. Most of the elites already mock it and don't fear it. IMO, some Ripple/Ethereum sanitized variant of bitcoin that is friendly to regulators and banks will actually become the global crypto of choice. Nevertheless, meanwhile I will of course ride the various BTC waves untill its demise. are you talking about the bitcoin community or bitcoin itself? bitcoin is the friendliest form of decentralised currency. you can track transactions on the public ledger. either a crypto will replace it and become similarly anarcho liberitarian, or bitcoin will succeed. the only alternative is that a centralised crypto will be formed, and of coarse that will flop. |
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Not too late. Things are just getting started.
I still don't feel like paying hundreds for something I could recently get for a dollar. So what are my best altcoin options? you must understand that any crypto is in fact worthless if it not going to survive in the long run. the world only needs one crypto. maybe 3-4 will survive. chances are bitcoin will survive and be the top dog. dogecoin..... maybe not. |
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