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2521  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: June 24, 2020, 02:30:29 PM
Democrats also demand loyalty, but the difference between Trump and Obama is that Obama was able to get loyalty from his staff, while Trumps staff has learned that it is more profitable to turn into “anti-Trump” even if this means fabricating things (Bolton).

Look at former AG Holder who describes his role as being Obama’s “wing man”. Look at how infrequently the liberal SC justices vote differently from the rest, look at how liberal Senators and congresspeople vote, they almost always vote as a unanimous block. Look at how the left wing MSM describes various current events on the sane day, they use the same talking points.   
2522  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion: Make it just a little more difficult to create a new account. on: June 24, 2020, 01:13:19 PM
I guess the thing is with captchas is they are too easily bypassed either through getting an automated service to do them for you
I don't believe that google reCaptcha can be bypassed via the use of a machine learning model (or ensemble of models). There may be some services that employ people from third world countries to solve reCaptcha's for next to nothing, but this is a cost.
I've seen them offered for a few dollars per thousand captchas.
In my list of usernames, there are 13937 usernames that start with "MrFudged" and several other usernames that have thousands of combinations. All current restrictions didn't stop these guys to create that many accounts.
The captcha was added in August 2017, while the accounts you cited were created on October 21, 2015 and the following day. I think my above explication would still apply.
2523  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion: Make it just a little more difficult to create a new account. on: June 24, 2020, 07:02:21 AM

I am also not sure what type of accounts you are concerned about. If someone is creating boatloads of accounts to farm/spam low quality posts with, they would still need to wait 6 minutes between posts initially.

I guess the thing is with captchas is they are too easily bypassed either through getting an automated service to do them for you or by bypassing it using the sound system that some of them offer. I'm not sure the best way of going about this. There's been quizzes that have been suggested in the past, which could have randomized answers. Although, even then this could eventually be automated by those that find it worthwhile to make new accounts.
I don't believe that google reCaptcha can be bypassed via the use of a machine learning model (or ensemble of models). There may be some services that employ people from third world countries to solve reCaptcha's for next to nothing, but this is a cost.

One other solution might be to put people in a modified newbie jail after say 7 posts unless they have been whitelisted. The mods (and maybe also merit sources, and maybe others) would review all newbie posts, and whitelist the account the post makes a sufficiently good post. Ideally, most new users would make posts at a slow enough pace (and mods will review posts quickly enough) so that users who are not posting junk will be able to make 8 posts without ever being in newbie jail. Those in modified newbie jail could buy a premium account (maybe at a cost that is less than a Copper Membership), or wait to get whitelisted (which may require they make additional posts in a subset of subs).
2524  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion: Make it just a little more difficult to create a new account. on: June 23, 2020, 07:58:25 PM
One can create 30 accounts here in probably 5 minutes or less. 


The captcha will probably prevent this many accounts from being created that quickly, especially if you include the time required to login for the first tine.

A solution to many junk/spam accounts might be to require a captcha for some of the first x posts at random unless the account is whitelisted.

I am also not sure what type of accounts you are concerned about. If someone is creating boatloads of accounts to farm/spam low quality posts with, they would still need to wait 6 minutes between posts initially.
2525  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: June 23, 2020, 04:19:59 PM
The elections are run by the states. The president has nothing to do with running the election.

You misinterpreted what I said. I didn't say Trump was "running the election." As the head of state, Trump is the top representative of the federal government -- the one that upholds the constitution which created the electoral college who elects the president. By claiming the vote is "rigged" before it even happens, he is undermining the constitution and thus the legitimacy of his own office.

I wouldn't say that undermines the legitimacy of his office. But it's not really a bright thing to be complaining about from Trump because it really isn't something that happens all that often -- election fraud that is.

Does mail in ballots increase the chance of voter fraud? Yes, totally. But it's still not a very high chance and states should just put safeguards in place to try to stop this.

We don't want thousands of people going to the ballot in November, in the middle of (maybe) a second wave and flu season and have to vote and all that. Sounds like a recipe for disaster all around the US.

On the posts about Stormy -- I'm not sure why she is even relevant anymore.
Trump is trying to make it as difficult politically as possible for states to allow widespread mail in voting, and is setting up for any lawsuit about the election after widespread voter fraud by democrats.

I have lived in several different locations throughout my life, and I have always received mail addressed to multiple prior what I assume are residences. A few weeks ago I also received a bill in the mail from over a year ago that was addressed to an old address of mine and was marked return to sender. I can only imagine the accuracy of voter registration roles with regards to voter addresses, but my guess is that it is not as high as it should be and is certainly well above the margin of victory that most candidates get.
2526  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] blender.io Signature Campaign | Sr./Hero&Legendary Members | on: June 23, 2020, 01:21:52 PM

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2527  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: June 23, 2020, 07:12:46 AM
It would appear Trump is getting cold feet about the election...



Of course, Trump wouldn't be Trump without undermining the validity of the institution he is the head executive of. The election of course hasn't happened yet, and he's already declaring it to be "rigged." Will this still be the case if he wins?

It's great that he can make such proclamations before something has happened, without any evidence whatsoever, and his followers will just unquestionably swallow them whole. That way if he loses, it wasn't his fault. And if he wins, well who cares what he said before because he already won.
The elections are run by the states. The president has nothing to do with running the election.
2528  Other / Meta / Re: sMerit faucet, maybe? on: June 23, 2020, 06:42:31 AM
Why not just use the [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source thread in Reputation?

We can direct attention to quality posts rather than sending the merit to the posts themselves... -snip-
It is a nice initiative from Loyce but I will be honest, I don't have much time (depends from months/seasons) searching that topic and following a format to point source(s) to a post that I think is helpful and he/they may disagree with (they may disagree between each other whether a specific post should be merited or not and how much...) + have no intention to post in self moderated topic (with all respect to LoyceV and other good members).
I am just asking about a simple fluid way to merit other members if possible.

I don't think it is necessary to use a particular format when reporting a post that deserves merit, just post a link to the post and state why you believe the post deserves merit.

I understand that many merit sources monitor the thread and will give merit to deserving posts as reported.
2529  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Riots after Death of Man in Minneapolis Police Custody on: June 23, 2020, 05:51:03 AM
My point is I think you should read the criminal complaint I linked.  It doesn't make the picture perfectly clear, but he was described as calm and polite after being handcuffed.  Then when they went to put him in the car he explicitly said he wasn't resisting, he was claustrophobic, and he couldn't breath - then he stiffened up and just went down.  The rest is clear from the video.

Interesting article that I read examining the incident a bit more closely - https://medium.com/@gavrilodavid/why-derek-chauvin-may-get-off-his-murder-charge-2e2ad8d0911

TL;DR - Floyd was resisting and refusing to get in the police car probably because he was in an excited delirious state (ExDS), not because he was claustrophobic. There were a range of drugs in his system, including a deadly dose of fentanyl (11 ng/mL with average concentration being 10 ng/mL in an overdose). This explains why Floyd was acting so erratic and also why Derek Chauvin, a 19 year vet of the police department with military training and 4 years of military experience would seemingly do something stupid enough to have Floyd in a neck restraint for so long. Apparently it tends to be department policy to have anyone in a delirious state under full restraint until paramedics arrive on scene until they can inject the patient with loads of ketamine to calm them down.

The article also explores a few instances where people experiencing ExDS tend to die regardless of the restraint they're put in due to drugs and underlying conditions playing a role. The prosecution might try to argue that ExDS isn't a recognized condition by the American Medical Association but being in a delirious tends to have the same sorts of physical signs (agitation, aggression, reduced pain sensitivity, ect.)
The medium article you cited is short on citations, however, this is one very good example as to why rash decisions or actions are wrong before all the facts are available. It is also why the mayors and governors allowing the lawlessness to continue should be condemned in the strongest way possible.

I would be willing to bet the officers will be found not guilty because of who is prosecuting the case, Keith Ellison. This is someone who allegedly beat his girlfriend, and there is evidence to support this. I also believe him to be corrupt, and would not be surprised if he threw the case for political benefit.

If Floyd has > the OD dose of multiple drugs when he died, I would have serious doubt as to how much Chauvin's actions contributed to Floyd's death. I also have concerns about overcharging the officers, for political purposes.
2530  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: How to eliminate Large mining pools on: June 23, 2020, 05:24:30 AM
I read your paper, and I don't think it would eliminate mining pools, but it probably would change how mining pools operate. A mining pool may have some miners calculate the first phase of the PoW, send the result to the mining pool, which in turn sends the result to other miners, who attempt to calculate the second phase of the PoW, and once solved will send the solved calculate back to the pool. Or individual miners calculate both phases of the PoW, sends the solution to the pool, which distributes the mining rewards to each miner.

I would also firmly reject the notion that one individual should be the only person who has contributed to finding a block. In the current implementation of bitcoin, there are 144 blocks found per day, and by some estimates, there are 400k daily users of bitcoin. This is far too few people controlling the confirmation of transactions for many people.
2531  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 'Trump Designates Antifa "A Terrorist Organization"' on: June 22, 2020, 01:22:55 PM
After ~20 seconds he got tackled by a bunch of people.  They beat the shit out him, flipped his car and set it on fire.

He may have deserved some beating (or rather restraining) depending on the circumstances - it's hard to tell from the choppy videos how real his threat was or what provoked it. Certainly didn't deserve a skateboard to the head though. Certainly didn't deserve his car torched even if it's a Dodge Caliber. It looks like people lose all sense of perspective or restraint when there's more that a few in one place. Knock him out, take away his bow, anything beyond that is just savagery.
I don’t think knocking him out would be justified. Maybe knocking him down. Given the number of people that swarmed him, he was probably no longer a threat before the first punch was thrown from the front.

Never bring a bow to a mob fight.
I don’t disagree with you, but the actions of the mob are unacceptable. Period.
2532  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do Black lives matter or Do all lives matter? on: June 22, 2020, 07:25:40 AM
Do Black lives matter or Do all lives matter?

Of course all lives matter!!! But. All lives matter is not an answer when someone ask you if black lives matter. Right answer is: Yes ,black lives matter.

https://twitter.com/JulieBorowski/status/1268723241289486336


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I have seen variations of this BLM propaganda recently, and it is very misleading.

The propaganda you posted relies on the assumption that racist police are killing black people all the time, and this is simply not true. When controlling for the number of arrests, black people are killed at a far lower rate than white people are by police. Looking at interracial murder rates, a white person is far more likely to be killed by a black person than vice versa.

"Black Lives Matter" actually means "Black Lives Matter, Too".

This is wrong. The phrase "BLM" implies that Black lives matter more. In a country of 300 million people, there are plenty of non-black people who are killed under bad circumstances, and none of the BLM activisists racists even bat an eye.
2533  Other / Politics & Society / Re: John Bolton fired by President Trump - BREAKING on: June 22, 2020, 05:43:36 AM
snip - Lot of writing, had to snip.

You're right right when it comes to the first part about it being about the money for Bolton. The Democrats are currently saying the same thing -- as Bolton had every opportunity to sit in-front of Congress and come and talk, or at least try to do so (as the Administration would've put up a fight.) Here's the tweet from Schiff (https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1274888946682601473) as he talks about the fact that this was totally about the money for Bolton.

John Bolton is going to be hurt from doing this, the DOJ is 100% going to try to take away his book advance and remove whatever financial incentive the guy had to do this.

This book will lead to MANY investigations by the House Democrats -- unsure if they will have the same amount of news coverage as the Ukraine Scandal, as there are many other things in the world right now as the Coronavirus is still ravaging the nation.

As always, we'll see.

I would suspect that any DOJ lawsuit against Bolton would be dropped if Biden were to win. Likewise for any criminal charges.

I suspect the Democrats had ~all of the evidence and testimony ahead of time before they started the impeachment inquiry. This is based on Mr. Vinmen meeting with Shift's office before testifying, Pelosi saying publicly that she will not support impeachment without bipartisan support ~two weeks before announcing the impeachment inquiry, and the rules that heavily favored Democrats. This would not be the case with a Bolton impeachment, Bolton would have credibility issues, and there is the risk that Bolton could recant his testimony in the middle of a trial or inquiry, which might lead to a strong bipartisan vote against impeachment, or congress voting to impeach based on literally zero evidence. I think Democrats voting to impeach is just too risky for Democrats.

Trump is also very good at 4-D chess. When Bolton tweeted about being locked out of his Twitter account after impeachment, I had suspected at the time it was a ploy to get Democrats to call Bolton to testify.

I would say a 2nd Trump term would have a decent chance of an armed conflict with China, while a Biden administration would probably mean going back to allowing China to steal US IP, and possibly China exporting computer HW to the US in masse, which would only lead to spying on the US. Being a warmonger, Bolton should favor the former.
2534  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: June 21, 2020, 11:48:46 PM

Do you think this possibly has something to do with him hoping to sell more copies of his new book? Do you think this possibly has something to do with if he can present himself as a political enemy of Trump, it will be politically difficult to prosecute Bolton for disseminating classified information via the publishing of his book?

I have seen a number of high profile Republicans become "never Trump Republicans" solely business/income purposes (as far as I can tell). The "mooch" is another that comes to mind.
2535  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Riots after Death of Man in Minneapolis Police Custody on: June 21, 2020, 09:11:43 PM
Here's a painting of Patriots tearing down a statue of King George in 1776.


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Tearing down monuments is a part of history.
There is a major difference between tearing down a statue of someone who is currently imposing tyranny (or was just forcibly stopped from continuing doing so) upon a group of people, and a statute of a historical figure. The former is a sign that the tyrant's reign has stopped, and the former is destroying history. I actually suspect the intention of tearing down historical statues is going to lead to eventually (not long from now) rewriting history.
it'd be more effective to support programs that help poor and uneducated people across the board. Since minorities are disproportionately poor and uneducated, any such programs will disproportionately help minorities; it's like affirmative action, but without pissing people off.
The obvious solution would be to increase charter schools in poor areas.

Ineffective public schools have lead to horribly math and reading proficiency scores in poor areas of the country. Charter schools have consistently done a better job at educating students. In New York City, there were 28 classes in which charter schools shared buildings with public schools. Roughly 10% of public school students were proficient on statewide tests, while between 81 and 100% of students at charter schools received proficient scores on the same tests.

Ending the drug war and helping people addicted to drugs would be a good idea.
It would be difficult to do both. It would probably be a good idea to rethink the approach to the drug war. Leniency should be given to very low-level offenders first several offenses, but those who sell drugs should be punished. Drug dealers profit off of people getting addicted to the drugs they are selling, which causes real harm to both their customers and society as a whole. Due to the high-profit margins from selling drugs, drug dealers can afford to extend high-risk credit to their buyers and offer deep discounts to those who cannot afford to pay the full price, which makes it difficult to break addictions.
2536  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: June 20, 2020, 08:15:36 PM
Elections are NOT going to be cancelled. I highly doubt that Trump is going to be able to pull off some fucking Frank Underwood shit from House of Cards to try to sway this his way.

Doesn't need to be cancelled... postponed until we got law&order reestablished, or until we got a vaccine, or until that Martian situation is dealt with.

There are other options too. E.g. impose strategic curfews/quarantines/anti-Martian blockades in places that (completely coincidentally) tend to vote for Democrats. Or just ask China for help LOL.
Wait, your side is perpetuating political violence (which right now would be the most likely reason for the election to be delayed), and you are hoping to profit from it? That doesn't sound fair.

I also don't see how you can unilaterally change the terms:
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Conditions for a draw (neither side pays the other side):

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2537  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: June 19, 2020, 03:03:25 PM
Klobuchar was out not long after Floyd was killed. Specifically when it was revealed that she declined to prosecute the dirty cop who killed Floyd. If she has been previously selected, she probably would have been replaced.

Klobuchar took the approach of letting a grand jury decide charges levied on officers instead of choosing to prosecute for all of controversial police misconduct. I don't think she was unreasonable in doing this. Probably easier to take the blame off her shoulders and shift it on a grand jury instead of looking like the politician who couldn't successfully convict a cop that is viewed as bad to the public, regardless of whether that cop's actions were legal or not.
It is the prosecutor who brings cases before grand juries. It is also very easy to get a grand jury to hand down an indictment.

Even ignoring the above, her fingerprints being on the case are damaging to her politically. This is especially true for the base of the voters on the left.
2538  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: June 19, 2020, 01:37:54 PM
Amy Klobuchar's out of the VP bid and urges Biden to pick a women of color - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/18/us/politics/amy-klobuchar-biden-vice-president.html

I was hoping for Klobuchar. With how badly Trump's doing in polls, Biden's VP is going to be in charge if Trump were to lose reelection. Klobuchar was probably the least worst out of the bunch.


Klobuchar was out not long after Floyd was killed. Specifically when it was revealed that she declined to prosecute the dirty cop who killed Floyd. If she has been previously selected, she probably would have been replaced.

I think it is pretty disgusting to be saying she is dropping out for identity politics.
2539  Other / Politics & Society / Re: John Bolton fired by President Trump - BREAKING on: June 19, 2020, 07:13:31 AM


I think the damage will be done by the claim that Trump told President Xi to build more concentration camps for Uighurs (muslims born in China) in China while the US is very publicly 'anti concentration camps'. 

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Fucking horrible.

You are taking what Bolten is saying that is damaging to Trump at face value. Many in the media also assume anything Trump says to be a lie/fabrication without irrefutable proof. This is a bad double standard to use, and basically prevents any substantive discourse. I blame social media giving incentives to reporters to make crazy claims to get more likes and views.

In addition to the US publicly being against concentration camps (a standard set by the administration), Trump's history on religious freedom removes credibility to this claim.

Even if this statement was shown to be true, I would want to know how specifically the translators described the concentration camps, and the specific language used by Xi. In 2001, the US basically used an alternate translation of words to get several airmen released from China after a military plane crash. You could use a worse case assumption to conclude that Xi was referring to the concentration camps, but Xi may have described them not as harshly.

You're right, it can't be proven one way or the other.  But Trumps only rebuttal is just "it's all made up stories, he's just trying to make me look bad, all the sources are fake, the book (which hasn't been published) is getting terrible reviews!"   He makes the same play against anyone who criticizes him, whether it's a 4 star general or a reality TV star.  It's also been proven countless times that something he calls 'fake news' ends up being proven true weeks or months later.  Giving Trump the benefit of the doubt at this point seems very misguided.
In early 2019, there was a Buzzfeed article that was quickly refuted by all possible sources to the article, and days later, they announced layoffs. My conclusion at the time was that a reporter had been tipped off about the layoffs ahead of time and was trying to either stop the layoffs or to save his own job via generating extra clicks on what can be described as a made-up story. This is an extreme example, but there are many other examples of stories that have proven to be false, and others that are so outrageous that they are not fit to get published in a tabloid, yet somehow make their way into major newspapers. Do you seriously think the President of the United States, who is worth $11 billion really eats big macs in bed?

As with any other outrageous claim, I would say that Bolten needs to provide proof of shut up. Similarly, as with other outrageous claims about Trump, many on the left likely believes the claim before hearing about them.

As a FYI, books don't need to be published to get reviewed. The reporting that has been done was done specifically because the media was given copies of the book before it was available to the public.

He's also made it very clear by his actions, or inaction, that he's willing to look the other way on human rights if he thinks being friendly with guys like Duterte, Xi, or Kim Jong Un increases the chances of him being able declare a political victory.  It's part of deal making, and it's rarely black and white...but the case of the concentration camps it is black and white.  They are horrible and unethical on every level.  Looking the other way or deciding against sanctions for whatever reason is one thing, but not caring or even encouraging them?  That should not be ok.
Trump looked the other way with Kim in an effort to prevent possible nuclear war. This is similar to the tradeoffs made when deciding to drop nukes on Japon during WW2.

I think the most likely reality is that Trump did convey the message that Bolton claims he did not because he actually wants Xi to build more concentration camps, just because he genuinely doesn't care whether they exist or not.  All that matters is his path to reelection. 
All foreign policy decisions are ultimately political. Presidents have campaigned over the years on being tough on foreign adversaries, and on ending wars. Presidents need congress to declare war and needs the consent of the Senate to ratify any peace treaty to end a war, both of which are political entities.

I would also point out that many of Trump's critics personally profit from what amounts to slave labor out of China, and may even be profiting from these very same concentration camps. I would be interested to see their comments on this particular point in Bolton's book.
This isn't about sweat factorys.  They're literally trying to stop millions of Muslims from being Muslim.  Give this a read: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/china-xinjiang-documents.html
I created a thread at the time those documents were published. Yes, China is trying to "re-educate" Muslims, but who knows what else they are doing while they are in the concentration camps.
2540  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Mining Centralization Race on: June 19, 2020, 06:43:48 AM
I liked to visualize data like this. In the beginning, especially before 2012, we can see that mining was more decentralized when miners where "Unknown". I believe this Unknown are more decentralized, probably many small independent miners.

This is not a valid assumption. In bitcoin's early days, Satoshi likely controlled nearly all of bitcoin's mining. As Satoshi's dominance waned, there were likely others who controlled large percentages of total bitcoin mining. This was when there was virtually zero commerce on the blockchain, so this really did not matter. There were probably a small number of entities that controlled large percentages of the total blocks mined when GPU started to be used for mining, and in the early ASIC days.

All that "unknown" means is that your source does not know who was mining the blocks during that time period. It could be a single entity mining all the "unknown" blocks, it could be a different entity for each "unknown" block mined, or it could be (most likely) something in between.
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