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2521  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blocks are still taking way too long. on: October 11, 2014, 02:15:46 PM
Maybe i just rephrase it. Use ltc or doge if that buyer if willing to accept. The point i want to tell *very straight and simple* is that people would rather use alternative form of payment method which is faster. Even my credit card payment is faster. Nobody likes to wait unless you tell me bitcoin is the only payment mode accepted at the counter

As mentioned, Bitcoin is not ideal for in-person transactions: we have cash for that.

However, you are incorrect when you say your credit card is faster. The payment may be authorized within seconds: but all they are checking for is whether you have enough available credit to cover the purchase. Edit: (You can even exploit this to "double spend" more than your credit limit (there is a charge for doing that)) A careful reading of your credit-card bill should reveal that the "Posting date" is sometimes several days later than the "Transaction date". Unlike Bitcoin, such transactions can be reversed for up to 6 months in the case of fraud.

Bitcoin really competes with wire transfers: which can still take several days. Often the intermediate banks will take up to $50 in order to pass it on to the next bank in the chain. To get 6 confirmations within 2 hours is cheap and reliable in comparison.



Which part is wrong? When i make purchases at the retail stores, once i get confirmation which is probably less than 2 minutes, i can just walk away with the goods. Doesn't matter what the posting date is. If there is a reverse tx, the name is clearly printed.

With bitcoin not even having its first confirmation within 30 minutes, do you think the guy will let me walk away even if i show him the transaction screen on my phone? The sale is not going to move to next step if neither party receive some form of trust and assurance that 'hey we have an agreement'

I'm comparing against all payment modes whether it is using cash, other altcoins, credit card, wire transfer and probably with that long confirmation, it only beats cross border transaction *thus far*
2522  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin evolution / solving adoption on: October 11, 2014, 02:02:47 PM
Hmm while i do agree how come we never get involved in crowd funding for charitable purposes or research project that benefits the community. Maybe there is one being done before or have i missed out? Just to quote the doge clean water initiative or the nascar sponsoring thing...
2523  Bitcoin / Mycelium / Re: Mycelium 2.0 HD - Welcome to the future on: October 11, 2014, 01:12:27 PM
Hmm looks great. I'm so used to android bitcoin wallet by andreas but this looks equally good as well. Nicely done
2524  Economy / Speculation / Re: Who is the Bitcoin BearWhale? on: October 11, 2014, 12:51:23 PM
I believe it's some price manipulation by the same person probably early adopter who still hold large stash of bitcoin so that can buy at cheap price. Even though price has recovered for now, long term is still towards the downside
2525  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Andreas Antonopoulos kicked asses at the Canadian SENATE! on: October 11, 2014, 11:47:02 AM
I actually followed the video from start until the end which i rarely do for youtube videos. And i can say the strong words will surely help to promote bitcoin. Good work!
2526  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This address received 23000BTC yesterday. on: October 11, 2014, 10:59:53 AM
That guy is a multimillionaire. Too bad i missed the chance to be the early adopter.
2527  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gold Rush Is Over As Investors Get Bored Of Cryptocurrency on: October 11, 2014, 10:25:00 AM
Well don't be so sure because the interest of buying is there. If it wouldn't the price would have dropped much lower instead of rebounded back to the current level
2528  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Updated Map of bitcoin friendly countries vs. contentious vs. hostile on: October 11, 2014, 10:07:55 AM
Plus maybe zoom in to the map that can even show bitcoin accepted store. On another thought wouldn't it be better if we can just directly put that into google maps
2529  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Holiday Calendar 2015 on: October 11, 2014, 09:58:11 AM
Lol that is a good idea. Maybe these...

Date when the guy pays btc for pizza
Establishment of btc foundation
Btc 1 billion market cap

Everything's here
 https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/History
2530  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blocks are still taking way too long. on: October 11, 2014, 09:21:53 AM
Common issue anyway. I'm not surprised if this the main barrier that prevents bitcoin adoption. I mean why should a person made to wait for long confirmation to complete the purchase. Just use cash.

If you are making a payment at a local shop, cash is good. What if the parties involved are not physically at the same place. For online orders, confirmation times becomes less relevant.

Maybe i just rephrase it. Use ltc or doge if that buyer if willing to accept. The point i want to tell *very straight and simple* is that people would rather use alternative form of payment method which is faster. Even my credit card payment is faster. Nobody likes to wait unless you tell me bitcoin is the only payment mode accepted at the counter
2531  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can the last Bitcoin, #21,000,000, ever be mined? on: October 11, 2014, 09:17:09 AM
Technically i mean it should be yes. Even though block reward is low and difficulty is too high, people would still be mining for the fees. It might probably took a very long long time for that one final sat to appear.
2532  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blocks are still taking way too long. on: October 11, 2014, 09:07:36 AM
Common issue anyway. I'm not surprised if this the main barrier that prevents bitcoin adoption. I mean why should a person made to wait for long confirmation to complete the purchase. Just use cash.
2533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: im done on: October 11, 2014, 07:14:10 AM
And that is the reason why i only keep all my stash in bitcoin and small amount in dogecoin and litecoin. Anyway that being said don't put so much hate in altcoin, it's a great way to double up your holdings ....that is if you managed to get in early
2534  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: THE RISE AND RISE OF BITCOIN - Full length documentary is OUT! on: October 11, 2014, 05:32:08 AM
As a bitcoiner I've certainly enjoyed watching it and i think it's great documentary. We need more like this to take bitcoin to the next level
2535  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Napolean had a good way of putting it. on: October 11, 2014, 04:07:13 AM
it's the sole purpose that was behind BTC creation. So I guess Napoleon would have loved BTCBTCBTC Cool Cool

No doubt about that statement.
2536  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavin Andresen Proposes Bitcoin Hard Fork to Address Network Scalability on: October 11, 2014, 04:00:10 AM
Basically I'm not against the idea of having a hard fork. We need to plan for long term solution and accept the fact that one day fees will be the one we'll need to rely on to continue to survive. The question is what the side effects are. Will hackers take advantage during the hard fork or ended up a mess considering the size of bitcoin
2537  Other / MultiBit / Re: How do I move my coins from Bitcoin Core to Multibit? on: October 11, 2014, 12:56:59 AM
Just send the money through the network and you are good to go. Not sure if saving 10 to 30 bits of transaction fee is worth all the hassles of messing up with the private key.
2538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: My absolute biggest mistake in my entire life. Learn from my mistake, please. on: October 10, 2014, 03:32:32 PM
How about those who invested a lot of money in some altcoins and ended up losing 90pct of everything. I can easily name you 3 altcoins but i would rather not.

The thing is that this is part of what we should accept in investment. If you are certain for sure 100pct, then i don't think that is what u call investment. I had my share of missed opportunity based on wrong decision because i was not willing to take the risk and if i had, i would have lived a more comfortable life and retire early. But then, the question is 'would i have known'?

If that makes u feel better
2539  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Very interesting points on Bitcoin by a great Economist on: October 10, 2014, 03:22:00 PM
I don't get it why he doesn't see facebook as an opportunity. Facebook will not get much further or higher than its current state but its certainly not dropping as well. As for gold can't say much as it is on downward pressure mainly due to hints by the feds that interest rate hike is in store pretty soon. For bitcoin, regardless of what others said I still hanging on to it.
2540  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does bitcoin solve more problems than it creates? on: October 10, 2014, 01:58:50 PM
Yeah bitcoin has its weaknesses but it also solves many of the financial issues we are facing with cheap free flowing fiats. But once these issues get overcome it will definitely take off.
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