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2541  Economy / Speculation / Re: 750k coins stolen =7% of currently mined coins, belong to one person? on: February 25, 2014, 10:43:28 PM
Even if 750k is true, where do you see that it belongs to one person? The exploit was used by multiple people. I saw a tutorial on how to do it on youtube.
2542  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 10:41:54 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that if Gox does come out alive and pay out, that this would be the best thing to happen for Bitcoin? The news would be unbelievably positive.

Its death.. well, its terrible already. It will only get worse if they wont pay out.
I'm personally much more bullish if gox dies and stamp price continues to go up. It means the worst has happened yet stamp continues to be bullish despite that and it's able to support the price on it its own.  If I find that there is a rally due to something at gox then it is like a false rally and the neverending drama with gox continues.
2543  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 10:25:43 PM


Where is that guy who said "the recovery can't just happen with a flash and a bang". Because this looks REALLY flashy and bangy to me. I cannot imagine that an entire 30% range is seen for 12 hours and then permanently abandoned. There should be some retest of something down there. 470 at least. Right?
2544  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 01:49:39 PM
Even IF bottom was reached, there is still a lot of work to do

2545  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 01:01:26 PM
The facebook page is 55 minutes old.
2546  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 12:52:07 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yvy2t/gox_has_announced_acquisition_statement_tomorrow/cfo862t

13:35 < Mantrid> Gox.com
13:35 < Mantrid> 5 minutes ago
13:35 < Mantrid> We are in a process of being acquired, at the current time I am not
                 in the position to give you further information. I can only reassure
                 you, that your funds are securely kept in our cold storage.
13:35 < Mantrid> An official statement is to be released tomorrow.

anyone in the #mtgox-chat ?

I am so lost as to how GOX HASN'T SAID ANYTHING ( in official channels) THE FUCK is wrong with their management.

Did the Japanese make the hari kari themselves?
Who is Mantrid? He's not an OP in irc.
2547  Economy / Speculation / Re: We are at "DESPAIR" on: February 25, 2014, 12:24:43 PM


Thankfully there are things I can OBJECTIVELY look at. Either this was bottom or we are 1 step away from it.

I agree...

except if there are forces at work (with access to 750K stolen coins perhaps) that are intend on slaughtering Bitcoin TA and indicators don't mean shit.
The 750K coins have been stolen from gox over the course of 3 years. It didn't just suddenly happen now. There is not a pile of 750k coins waiting to be dumped. It is likely dumped already.
2548  Economy / Speculation / Re: We are at "DESPAIR" on: February 25, 2014, 12:14:56 PM


Thankfully there are things I can OBJECTIVELY look at. Either this was bottom or we are 1 step away from it.

which exchange ?
stamp
2549  Economy / Speculation / Re: We are at "DESPAIR" on: February 25, 2014, 12:11:36 PM


Thankfully there are things I can OBJECTIVELY look at. Either this was bottom or we are 1 step away from it.
2550  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why do people still believe anything gox says? on: February 25, 2014, 12:05:07 PM
It's like santa claus, and magic, and religion. It will only work if you believe in it, and spread the good the word. Also maybe people don't believe it but are spreading the information to pump and dump their bitcoins and especially goxcoins.
2551  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 11:59:38 AM
the next MACD cross of 4h will bring the price up and not down
Yes hence it is going to be my buy signal. Hopefully it doesn't go up too much before I get the chance to buy. Sometimes it doesn't go up right away, leaving me a good chance to buy, or even goes down a bit.

Also, there's a chance the next MACD upcross will not be 4H but will be 1H. This will happen if we see a 1H downcross before the next 4H upcross - the 1H will have to upcross first.  If I judge that the chart is strong enough and the momentum of the 1H upcross enough to cause a chain reaction in which the 4H upcrosses also, then I will buy the 1H. This gives more profit than waiting for the 4H.

if you trade on the 15m or 1h chart then you have to be really crazy
When there is high volume and high volatily, you can use the smaller charts and are cheating yourself out of profits by not doing so. If all I was doing was trading 4 hour charts, I wouldn't currently be sitting on a 40% profit for the day.

, although I am wondering if you are making any profit by trading on the 15m or 1h chart after paying all fees and if it is really worth it ?
During volatily, smaller charts offer more than enough volatility to make a profit. Also, Bitfinex fee is only 0.1%.
2552  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: February 25, 2014, 11:50:57 AM
I did buy. I bought $400, but just sold $520. I will rebuy on 4 hour macd.

Why are you not already richer than me?  Shocked
I've only been in bitcoin for almost a year and I started with a VERY small deposit. It was supposed to be just for fun and to experiment with arbitrage (which never happened).
2553  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: February 25, 2014, 11:47:39 AM
What if trendline analysis and patterns from the past fail to predict the future because the present is not the past and a logarithmic increase of 10 times per year is mathematically impossible to sustain.

Weren't you also a bear? BUY NOW.

Fact is that they did, quite exactly. Best traders made a lot of money and even average ones came out ahead.
I did buy. I bought $400, but just sold $520. I will rebuy on 4 hour macd.
2554  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 11:44:41 AM
Guys

Take the opportunity to pull at least some of the BTC you bought today off the exchanges and into cold storage.

Now.  

The exchanges can have my fiat but I'm taking my coins out.  
Cold storage was originally my plan but the sale at $520 for a 30% profit at a sudden and obviously overbought level, assisted with some speculation about a comment line on a source code on mtgox, was too good to pass up. Once I rebuy on the next MACD cross THEN I will go cold storage.
2555  Economy / Speculation / Re: We are at "DESPAIR" on: February 25, 2014, 11:40:56 AM
You can't both reject the "stages of a bubble" chart and refer to its stages in your analysis at the same time...

I hope that was directed at the OP.

I certainly am not referring to that chart's stages, unless "Gox implodes" has been added as a stage.

I've long been on record as having reservations about using traditional TA and other accepted financial orthodoxy for Bitcoin.

I give the bubble stage chart little credence when applied to bitcoin.

IMO this event is news driven, not trend driven.

Yes it was @op sorry
2556  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 11:36:38 AM
The recovery is maxed out for now. It's going to take at least a day to consolidate and break $520 if not longer.

520$ was broken already on btc-e and stamp...

it was touched. not broken.

No! Stamp had 521$ and btc-e had 528.99$.

http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/btcusd
Ok guys I understand the number might not be exact to the dollar and that there are different exchanges which trade at differnet price. I will simplify this for you:  The resistance I am referring to is the 4 hour ema (blue line on wisdom). The price typically does not pass this line until 4 hour MACD goes up. Right now MACD is far from going up. Everyone thinks I pull these numbers out of my ass and they're "random" but actually I have a scientific method for each one...
2557  Economy / Speculation / Re: We are at "DESPAIR" on: February 25, 2014, 11:31:01 AM
You can't both reject the "stages of a bubble" chart and refer to its stages in your analysis at the same time...
2558  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 10:54:04 AM
The recovery is maxed out for now. It's going to take at least a day to consolidate and break $520 if not longer.
2559  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mtgox.com html sourcecode (they are being acquired) on: February 25, 2014, 10:23:28 AM
What would be the motivation for the acquiring company to take on a crapload of debt/liabilities instead of just writing their own exchange and starting new?
2560  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crazy Chineese on: February 25, 2014, 10:10:02 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=486336.0

If mtGox is not dead, but "just" rearranging, we will have a mass boost in price now. It already is, in fact.
That would SUCK big time. I was so bullish when I thought that btc was finally recovering without gox and moving on into a new phase of independence but if this is false it just means the bullshit is continuing and I would not be bullish anymore.
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