I know, and they should have provided upgrades for Saturn and Mercury owners, in fact they did provide a sale of upgrades at one point, and yes it was badly handled, I don't disagree with some of the issues people have with the expectations regarding upgrades, remember I'm a customer also, and maybe would have liked to buy some upgrades or even spare boards for emergencys! But I'm not getting my knickers in a twist over it and I was just showing that they did couch the advice about whether their would be upgrades carefully with enough vagueness for me to be wary of it and certainly not to take it as a sure thing.

Sounds like either a syntax error in the url or the machine can't "see" the internet. Have you tried using the tools from the web interface to ping your pool?

I ran 4 Titans off a Strider 1500W with a 3930KCPU and X79 mobo so you should be fine, not the most efficient as its only Silver but it will work no problem.

Try this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313978.0

ruh roh...

Why don't you fools ask them privately? Rather than out here for the whole world to see? FFS! They have email, they have PM, they even have a box when you place your order where you can put a request in.

Even #1 although it did happen, it wasn't "for sure". The actual quote is (and I'll highlight the bits I noticed when it was posted):

"If we do have more items to place in the shop for our 28nm range, we will announce this via one of our newsletters which will contain the time and date that they will go on sale. So keep some coins handy as we expect them to go quick."

Its not like KnC are acting strangely, this is exactly the same sort of information flow that happened for Jupiter/Saturn/Mercury. And exactly the same sort of rampant speculation was being thrown around then by similar people.

Some time ago I asked the same questions of both Avenger and edgar, they seem to want us to believe that they do it for altruistic reasons, that they hate the idea of "liars and scammers" ripping people off. But I don't buy all of it, its too personal, too, random, too, OTT vicious to be altruistic.

But you are right there does always seem to be some, and in some cases its well warranted, many of the other manufacturers are 3 months late and only now starting to hand out dribs and drabs of miners in what sometimes feels like a random fashion. Heck some are delayed till May or later before the first rig rolls off the line.

KnC for all their faults managed to deliver, not perfectly for everyone sure, but for the majority they delivered more than they promised, and they did it using the same methodology in both engineering, manufacturing and communications, that they are still using to date.

I'm a big boy, and I imagine most people who can afford to lay down 10K on a piece of hardware are also, we know what we got into, and heck if we want out we can get out, refund, cash in whatever, and if we want to wait for our Neptune or take a risk on 3T of cloud hashing then we can make those decisions as well.

If you are concerned about "n00bs" coming in and being "influenced" to lay down their hard earned cash in an ill advised way then just explain to them the facts and risks, no need to grandstand and be all indignant and righteous.

Down here still, gets the default cpanel web page 

You cant have it both ways. They aren't on the page so according to you they can't be trusted.

Questiontime, please disclose your financial or professional interest in this matter. Are you employed by bitmine, or stand to gain financially from them in any way? Are you a customer of theirs? Perhaps if so you could let us know how you feel about the delays?

Are you a perhaps a legal professional? if so you should be declaring whether your advice has any legal merit or if you are just a keyboard warrior who is getting a backhander for badmouthing any opposition.

I just dont get why you are on a crusade regarding this, innocent until proven otherwise, its not like these chinese 1TH miner manufacturers are scammers they are providing hardware and it appears to work fine. All we have is you, whoever you are, kicking up a fuss, and Giorgio the CEO of Bitmine, whoever he is, and his words.

ruh roh shaggy... website is down

  There isn't much to discuss, but I'd hardly call 100 posts nothing.

I guess most people either have you and edgar on ignore or they realised long ago that arguing with you is like arguing with religious fanatics, an excercise in futility. 

Exactly, the web page with the "list of authorised resellers" is a load of old cack. Technobit is making miners using the chips, as are bitcoinultra, neither of which is listed as authorised resllers.

In fact the main authorised reseller are also being hauled over the coals because they are months late delivering as are bitmine themselves! Sounds alot like sour grapes to me.

The main point is bitmine themselves can't be trusted, they screwed all their preorder customers, and at the end of the day its just one persons (Giorgio) word against another, if bitmine are so sure that they are being ripped off then they should put some of those preorder millions where their mouth is and sue someone.

Until that happens, and they win, then all bets are off, and as a consumer I don't think it matters a whit what you buy, unless your an idiot and start shouting about all your kit all over the net no-one is going to know.

Automatic payouts seem to be not working.

Miners still mining though.

Not trying to plug a November board into an October controller maybe?

Its not a self moderated thread, I cant see a reason for the moderation if a dialogue was ongoing.

Uggh.. wouldn't be an issue for me to wire it up here in the UK but I thought it was gonna look more like the Dragon miners (massive black box with two ATX PSUs) like bobsag got. That one looks half finished, mind you if it works I could grow to love it

Sorry to be pendantic.

Can you confirm the new price of $3200 (£1910) INC VAT or around 4.9BTC INC VAT?

Thanks

Apologies, I should have said verified that it exists, hashes and does what it says on the tin, I never meant to assume that you would do any more than that.