if you have very cheap electricity you can build a small farm of few rig and be very profitable and leave your job i think, the earning would be something like 3-4k usd per month, i would be very surprised if anyone is earning that much in real life job now lol
Yes that would be really surprising because apparently, electricity costs a lot every where. There's no place that gives you low-cost electricity which makes your plan a little too far fetched. Your plan would also need a large amount of capital considering the fact that you're targeting a profit of 3-4K USD and it would be extremely boring since there would be not much effort that has to be done once the setup is done. Well why not try to build up your small farm of mining rig by using solar panel if you are getting expensive bill to your electricity bill then you need to invest also for solar power. But I'm pretty sure you are going to get the return of your investment for few months and you are going to have no problem with your electricity consumption. That could be a good idea but in entails money and I mean a lot of money with the amount of target mentioned above, capital is vital in every start up business and since mining requires you that to operate successfully you need to raise that necessary amount of money. |
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A good way to earn from gambling is to establish your own gambling house, one that is legal, of course. Another is by having a betting station outlet. I am not sure how much these things would cost but for sure, if managed properly, you are going to start earning from making gambling your business.
Yeah exactly this is going to be the best way to make gambling into a profitable activity. And instead of you are going to lose your money for being an addicted gambler. Make your habit as your business by making your own gambling site just like the industry of gambling today is on the vast production but you just need to have big capital for it. That's a good advise, instead of gambling why not make a gambling site so you will always be in profit. However, making a gambling site is not that easy as you also need to raise a good capital of money to make your site a legit one and to operate successfully. |
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Keep an eye on those coins, if we see them moving around I bet btc will take a dip because more than likely he would be dumping.
I think when bitcoin prices began to fall and the volume began to swell, and then I'm sure there will be lots of people trying to buy bitcoin then the panic buying will come. when panic buying comes then the price will go up and I think you should buy if you want to profit I see it differently man, the price now is slowly rising and I think it will begin to rise steadily. We should take advantage of the cheap price now and we do panic buying on our own as we see this opportunity to earn money in the short run. |
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I wouldn't know about that since the only reason I use bitcoin is as a currency, but it could be a good long-term investment.
yeah it would definitely be one of the best investments you can have at the moment, i hope that the bitcoins i have will make me good money I think bitcoin will always be the best investment if you know the strategy to invest in bitcoin. for example in trade bitcoin. You can invest by buying bitcoin at such a good price when it goes down and you buy it. but make sure that it is the lowest price so you can profit when prices rise I don't want to argue with your statement because I agree with your 100% that bitcoin is a good long term investment, as an individual who wants to experience a comfortable life in the future it is just fair to take a risk an invest with bitcoin and hope we will be rich when our goal realizes. |
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I am not rich from gambling. How can I get rich when i only bet what i can afford to lose. And that amount is around 0.001 to 0.01. Funny isn't it? Well to be honest I am not a fan of gambling. I only do gamble when i am bored and i have the fund i can afford to lose. Aside from that I only play dice and never bet on lottery.
You still have a chance to be rich in gambling if you will bet on lottery and you hit the jackpot but as they say that is hard to do and you need an extreme luck for you to win and be rich in gambling, I would not try that either as I am more on real chance gambling than lottery. |
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Gambling is a very risky game. If you are playing casino games and wish to become a millionaire you are in a fool's paradise. The casino owners are not doing a charity work for sure. Its a business and they are earning millions through it by stimulating people's greed.
of course no safe method at gambling, this is just my opinion each server of casino use "fake system" to make each people trust he use fair chain, but he hide the real system to make each user lose. If you think no safe method to win in gambling because of this reason then i guess you are totally wrong. You just speculated if you just throw that words like that without any explanation. A method did not work in gambling because the outcome itself is random , so how it could help you to win safely? Exactly, the output of playing gambling is going to random even you are going to do with any strategy. And if a person wants to win safely with gambling it is better if you are going to quit for real so that you are not going to think about losing at all. Just gamble what you afford to lose so that you are not going to feel sorry in the end. There is no reason to quit and get your profit if you will still come back and play, the goal is very important and that goal should not only for one game because if you want to make money in gambling your chance to prove that you can make it is through in the long run. It is still better to play for fun so you will not think of your method in gambling in order to win, gambling is easier when you enjoy it as you do not need to worry of your money even if you lose as you will only bet what you can afford to lose. |
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For now fiat money will be dominant currency and there is no place to consider otherwise, but if crypto coins will go for the same direction like the past years I think we will see a lot of intresting things  . Wrong, fiat is already dominant from a long time ago, I think before you're born in the world the fiat is already making their domination defeating gold. but crypto will never defeat a fiat, because that is just assisting a fiat. It would never defeat fiat of course because we are just a small community and fiat is widely accepted in the whole world, people are living using fiat in a daily basis and no restrictions in terms of age, gender, and status in life unlike crypto currency which are very limited in terms of users. |
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 2018 panic selling 600 $ <3 btc but its too risky the price is not going to be that low in 2 years, in my opinion it should be like 2000 dollars at least and it will make me some good profit For it to go up that high there would have to be a massive pump, followed by a heart breaking crash that would stabilize at like $1,2000 and then slowly go up. That would happen in the future there will be a massive adoption that will affect the price increase but I don't think it will crash again, maybe it would fall back hard but the word crash is so negative and could mean there is no chance for the bitcoin to rise again. |
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I use bitcoin as a currency and investment. But i more use it as an investment because i can earn more BTC when i invest and as the time comes, i have a lot of earnings on my investments and use this to buy things that i need. we need to earn for us to have a chance to buy using btc as a currency and payments.
It is a good move for now since bitcoin is still at its early phase and there is more room to grow for us here so there is a big possibility that we can make money if we are just trusting on the future of bitcoin and risk our money. |
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Anything could happen, but I do not think it will happen soon, bitcoin is at its peak and it is more popular than any atcoins due to volume and its supporters. I am also a bitcoin enthusiast so my trust and confidence of bitcoin is very high as it could become the global currency in the future.
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I was actually surprised to find that there is actually Bitcoin ATM here in Philippines. lol. And I found it because of this thread.(I was curious so I googled it)  It's in Sunette Towers, Makati .  What i surprise to that there is a bitcoin atm here in our country philippines.. I thought that next year they will release those atm. I am happy to here that but the problem its too far in my place it takes a long time before i can withdraw there or deposit. Not surprising at all, tbh. Makati is a city that has always been advanced in terms of this stuff. Bitcoin ATM would be a good way to introduce Bitcoin to the people passing by. But, I don't think the machine in the picture is functional. See the picture and the paper on it says "Out of order". I've never seen this Bitcoin ATM in person (well, because I live far away from the city) but I'm looking forward into seeing them around especially now that you can buy Bitcoins from 7-Eleven. I am also living in the Philippines and I just know that there is a bitcoin ATM here in our country, but I guess I will not enjoy that benefits as I am not living near to that area, I am not in makati so I would just use my exchange site which link my wallet to a certain banks. |
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Fiat will win because bitcoin is still new and it has not achieve massive adoption yet. Government impose a law on using fiat as the legal tender so it cannot be replace with bitcoin otherwise we are violating the law if the government will be mad at us. They have the power so they can do everything to protect their interest.
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I may do this if bitcoin price goes up to 2000$ and singature campaigns pay the money equal to what they are paying now.
Lol I think it's useless if bitcoin prices rose as high as $ 2,000. but you do not have a job or income bitcoin permanently. I think the main consideration is the steady income Well yeah how you are going to enjoy the essence of bitcoins high price if you don't have permanent job and you can't even try to get one. That is why having a source of work with bitcoin is going to be better at all. But if you think you can work full time with bitcoin then that's a good way to enjoy the essence of price fluctuation of bitcoin. You should treasure your job the more your treasure bitcoin as you regular job will surely provide you a steady income, only quit your job when you know already how to earn consistently in bitcoin world. as of now im on a leave without a fee for almost a 2 months now keeping myself involved with alt trading and keeps on learning how to make it stable, i'm relying my daily expenses coming from my earnings so i guess quitting my job is not a good option i still needed it until i have a good investment and good understanding. Having a day job is precious because we rely to it on our expenses in our everyday life. Bitcoin is good and we must treat it as a sidejob to earn extra income which is really good for us. In your situation bro , you must be thankful to bitcoin even you stanby for two months atleast you could sustain it with the help of bitcoin. A day job is very important especially if you don't have any source of income. I quit my job and focus on bitcoin but before I quit my job, I see to it that I have savings for immediate needs along the way while doing bitcoin stuff.. Now I am at the end of my rope, all of my savings are gone and bills are piling up already. I still holding on though up to the very end of it and face this boldly with all responsibility and accountability. Quitting your job is the hardest decision to even if you are already earning more than you earn in real job. I know there are lot of opportunity here but it is not permanent and too risky as we could lose if we do not play our cards right, but do evaluate your self so you will know your capacity. |
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No way i am no where rich from gambling and i dont think any one here would have become rich from a poor by gambling.
If i think of my overalll stats then i will be in some loss so getting rich with gambling only is impossible thing to happen.You can generate and end up in some profit if you are really lucky not more than that.
But some here have won big, I saw it before being talked about in one thread, but it is not for all, only for those lucky gamblers and maybe for those who have invested big in their bankroll, I too, when I still like to gamble, I win yes, but if you total it, the loss is bigger than winning though you can't feel it because you are not counting it and only your wins... Very true. Being a gambler I do not have the habit of summing up my losses. But I do the re-collect my winning moments and summing up my winning amounts most of the time. Because this only is giving some boost to my gambling activity to keep on going for gambling. If I think about gambling losses, I do get frustration but I usually overcome to that frustrations to gamble again and again just with the motivation of becoming rich with gambling. Since we are not treating gambling as a business so we need not to track our loses as that will only give us heartache every time we remember that. We need to know our goal and hopefully we will not think of the hardest way which is to be rich in gambling as that is hard to achieve. |
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It is really hard to find an investment site that is real. I have been a victim of a fraud/scam investment site. They get my attention after seeing how big their interest and up until now they are not paying me the money I withdrawn. Just be careful, make some research or better yet to join a group where they invest their bitcoins and other altcoin.
The best way is to invest in alt coin and never been attracted in mining site who have offering big return of investment they only took all your bitcoin and run away together you investments if you do not know how to trade i think you need to read and research first about trading to lessen your risk by doing that. I think if it not your own mining equipment this will really happen. They pay a lot for that and I dont think they want anyone profiting from them. If you can find a trusted cloud bitcoin mining most of it got a little income. You will get your investment back in some time. Those who say you will get it fast is just a scam. We better be careful in picking those websites. Better do it on your own if you have money to spare for it. Never invest on that as you have no assurance that you will continue to earn, they could easily stop and take your money as you do not have control on their business, I guess if you are really want to mine you need to start on your own and provide the necessary equipment to start earning. |
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How much BTC so far has been generated in the ICO, I am interested to know as it seem like this project has a good potential in the future. Hope anyone can guide me regarding my concern. Thank you in advance.
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today is signature campaign is finish
any update about payment op
DEV went missing.. No updates even in the main lisk dice thread.. Sorry but maybe you advertised this probable scam for free How sad it is when the developers went missing and considering that the campaign is not weekly so they have to spend many days posting to reach a good number of posts just to be paid a good amount of money but the bad news is that OP is missing and was not able to pay. |
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That's true majority of them are ponzi but there may be some genuine sites too but its really difficult to identify them as once you start have a negative feeling its becomes difficult to trust anyone.
Yeah, maybe there are still some sites that are legit. But we never know what will happen next. Because at first they did pay us, with our money (not yet reached roi) and every few days / weeks later they were closed. Even for months was closed for reasons that make no sense. For me, knowing the risks that are not comparable, it is better not to come to invest in it. I think most investment sites today use Ponzi system and hyip. very little investment sites are trusted and properly run a business. investment sites today prefer short-term profits. yeah I know it will be more profitable. but I think you are guilty of stealing other people's money to be scam Yes, that's true because new investors are attracted due to HYIP and scam investment as they want some easy money, but after the experience they were able to get some lessons learned to be more strong and able to spot the right investment, for now since we are increasing I believe these investors are into trading and investing in bitcoin alone. |
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At this point just stop saying it'll be out next week and it'll out when its fully ready. Don't give us an ETA until it's ready and just want a few days for FOMO.
that's my point.... i'm ok with a delay but the problem is when he keep saying "next week" and it never happens. so I think patient is a virtue regarding to this concern mate and we already wait for quite a while, might be needed more of it if we really wants to see the progress, just keep watching this thread and see how the it will bring us. good luck This is a good move for the waves developer as they carefully study any release because the actual release of the updates, that would only show that they value the money invested in here most especially the investors, it doesn't matter how long I will wait as long as I can sell with a profit. |
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i found it when i was reading this thread. people do give advises which i can consider as so much funny but on the other hand we give each others opinion so its up for you now op what to choose from.
so many suggestions, and everyone has a different way. but the most important thing to me is we are able to control yourself, you can slowly move away from gambling. Yes this would always matter on your way of thinking, how would you decide because controlling your self is really that hard when you are in the act of gambling that is why most of us fail to do so. Yes that is really what you must do if you really want to quit gambling. You must able to control yourself because if you are going to control yourself. You are going to know your limitations and it is not that fast to quit in gambling of course you are going to take it lightly. Slowly but surely. It would be easy to say about how to control our seld that is i find it ironic because when we are already in the situation we somehow really be able to control our self. We are being overcome by our greed Not all of us cannot control being greedy, because like me when I lose I think i will just lose again and again and I am thinking that I can just lose my money. So I stop immediaty cause I don't want to lose more. Greediness is really hard to stop especially when you are in the middle of the game and you are already experiencing losing streaks then the feeling of greed would come out and make you bet even more hoping that you would win back your loses but the sad thing is you even lose more. Some have strong discipline with there selves like yours, they would easily realize that they are losing soo much and with that they decide to stop to minimize the loses. We are just greedy because we aim for money in gambling and if you would take notice, most of the gamblers are coming from the poor status or average as they are more desperate to earn money and they have tried the most dangerous way which is gambling, so once they will they will still gamble until the end. |
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