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2541  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 03, 2020, 02:33:29 AM
Trump makes his case for Democrat election fraud: This may be the most important speech I've ever made....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=720O_yBLrTs

I would have to agree, it is the most important speech Trump has made.

And we know what he says about the fraud is true. In the poll here on this forum, 20% of the responses were people admitting they would cheat to steal an election, if it got Trump out.



Unless you can prove the poll wasn't rigged by the easter bunny it shouldn't count.
2542  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How will Trump leave the White House? on: December 02, 2020, 08:57:58 PM
Can yall tell the future?
Yes.

The sun will rise tomorrow.
2543  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: December 01, 2020, 09:29:35 PM
“To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election”
-Bill Barr, Today
2544  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Elections 2020 - very self such moderated on: December 01, 2020, 07:41:45 AM
The fuck is the Kraken anyway? -- The news outlet(?), not the myth.

Qanon conspiracy theory that is so stupid Trump had to pretend like the lawyer that pushed it in public never worked for him.

2545  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Elections 2020 - very self such moderated on: December 01, 2020, 05:40:34 AM
Trump underperformed the down-ballot candidates almost everywhere. If the election stands, voters will have voted against Trump, rather than for Biden.

Loeffler should handily win as her opponent is especially radical in a Red state. Loeffler and Collins received a total of ~56% of votes, while her opponent only received ~32.9% of the vote.

There will be a show of force of fake votes, as they figure that after Joe and Hoe take office nobody will come after them and their vote fraud.

I suspect it'll be pretty much right out in the open.

What if the fraud actually helped Trump and Biden really won by more?

That is not what the forensic analysis by The Kraken shows.

I mean in the real world.  You know the Kraken isn't real, right?  It's a myth.
2546  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: November 30, 2020, 07:25:13 PM
Great job this week everyone, really impressive scores!  Grin
2547  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Elections 2020 - very self such moderated on: November 30, 2020, 04:40:16 AM
Trump underperformed the down-ballot candidates almost everywhere. If the election stands, voters will have voted against Trump, rather than for Biden.

Loeffler should handily win as her opponent is especially radical in a Red state. Loeffler and Collins received a total of ~56% of votes, while her opponent only received ~32.9% of the vote.

There will be a show of force of fake votes, as they figure that after Joe and Hoe take office nobody will come after them and their vote fraud.

I suspect it'll be pretty much right out in the open.

What if the fraud actually helped Trump and Biden really won by more?
2548  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: November 29, 2020, 05:43:41 PM
SCOTUS does not have to "reverse the election." They only have to rule that there were enough problems to invalidate the counts, and toss the problem into Congress to be solved.

Doesn't Biden win if it goes to congress?  I thought the plan was cancel everyones vote in PA and then convince/bribe/extort the PA electorates to just give Trump votes.  And then repeat the process in a couple other states with a few dozen more electorates.

Also, do we know for sure SCOTUS will hear the case at all?  Don't they have a thing about not hearing cases with zero merit?
2549  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sportsbooks that aren’t paying out on Biden winning the US Presidential Election on: November 29, 2020, 05:35:16 AM
Every single news outlet is reporting that Biden is the winner and I’ve seen his speech.  



News are not deciding who wins elections, and this is not the first time something like this happens.
Better turn off TV and mainstream media, because they did wrong predictions many times, and even announced Gore as president one time, and they also miserably predicted all polls before elections.
FTX is still allowing users to decide and keep their bet on presidential elections.

The difference is that the Gore-Bush election was decided by a single state and the margin was extremely close. Trump is not going to overturn the results with more states involved and with bigger margins.

The media isn't just making things up out of thin air. They're going by the results being reported by state governments. That's how elections work. Of course the next step is to certify the results and wait for the electoral college to make it official but I don't see why casinos have to wait that long because at that point it's a foregone conclusion what will occur. We already have all the evidence we need to determine that Biden will be the next president.

For what it's worth:  that's a fake headline that the Trump campaign was spreading to discredit the media.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-headline/fact-check-the-washington-times-president-gore-headline-is-fake-idUSKBN27P216

They did call Florida for Bush too early, and then Gore conceded only to later retract.  This all went down during election night though - not a comparable situation really.

Besides, the only thing you need to trust to know who won the election is a calculator.

2550  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: November 29, 2020, 05:23:08 AM
Didn't know you'd have to make a bet to take sides in politics.

That's new.

I guess it is natural when almost 90% of the paid signatures are casino ads.

You don't.

But it's a good way to figure out if someone actually believes what they are saying or just being a troll.
2551  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mondale/Ferraro BY A LANDSLIDE! on: November 29, 2020, 01:00:22 AM
I'm thinking that Biden is going to win by a landslide.

Oh, really?  ;-)

I intended to make something like this weeks ago, before the election.  But it was perforce to come with a detailed comparison and contrast* between the two scenarios; and that never got written.  Obviously, on the flipside, Trump didn’t win by a landslide; thus, this doesn’t quite work on the Trump side.

Everyone knows it wasn't really a landslide.  But not calling it a landslide after having your face rubbed in Trumps 2016 'landslide' for years with likely the identical vote count is a road too high for me.
2552  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] What is the value of 2 + 2? on: November 28, 2020, 04:39:55 PM
'22'

Since a 4x4 is a vehicle with four wheels all powered, a 2 + 2 would be two wheels, PLUS another power unit that could attach or not.

One man with two feet pushing a dead motorcycle.

ALSO it implies -

People, kangaroos and Tyrannosaurus Rex.



I like this because now 2 bitcoins + 2 bitcoins equals 22 bitcoins. This is double proved using the language of an extinct tribe which had words for "1, 2, 3 and many." 2 + 2 is MANY.

2553  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] What is the value of 2 + 2? on: November 28, 2020, 03:06:06 PM
'22'

Since a 4x4 is a vehicle with four wheels all powered, a 2 + 2 would be two wheels, PLUS another power unit that could attach or not.

One man with two feet pushing a dead motorcycle.

ALSO it implies -

People, kangaroos and Tyrannosaurus Rex.

2554  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] What is the value of 2 + 2? on: November 27, 2020, 05:14:24 AM
'22'
2555  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Kracken! on: November 27, 2020, 04:40:13 AM
Right up there with your global cooling, and Michael Flynn is innocent arguments.


2556  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How will Trump leave the White House? on: November 25, 2020, 07:20:13 AM
it is actually irresponsible for any sane president to leave the whitehouse to the irrespeonsible and corrupt democrats and their puppet biden.

announcing a military dictatorship is the smaller ill than continueing democracy with america's crazy left
If Republicans keep the Senate, which looks likely, the Democrats will be forced to compromise and moderate how they govern.

A military coup would probably not last long because so many institutions are already against Trump.
I wonder if any of our allies would help if our democracy was being seized by an authoritarian.
Probably not. Our military is sufficiently strong enough so that our military would win in a conflict.

Most of the time that countries are seized by dictators, they will first be legitimately elected, and subsequently, make radical changes to the court system, such as packing the equivalent of the Supreme Court (cough cough). Once the courts are on the dictator's side, any other changes made are rubber-stamped by the courts and the Dictator can do as they choose.
If you didn't use GOP talking point and language, I'd be sure you were talking about Trump.
- Legitimately elected
- Brags about how many judges he's had appointed and vocalized how he thought other judges weren't legitimate.
- All but explicitly said he wanted to get the  last SCOTUS seat filled because he might need the vote to win the next election.

2557  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: November 25, 2020, 12:55:57 AM
But let's take a step back, the entire Russia bullshit was started on the Steele Dossier which essentially was Russian disinformation that had no basis of being true. But apparently, that's all it takes to get a FISA warrant sign off at the Obama DoJ.

That IG report determined that the investigation was not started because of the Steele Dossier.  It was Papadapolous bragging to an Australian intelligence agent that the Trump campaign knew that Russia had dirt on Clinton and would be using it (Trump campaign should have went to the FBI themselves at that point).  In fact, when they became aware of the Steele dossier, the investigation was already under way, and Comey went personally to Trump Tower to tell Trump about it's existence.

Also, Carter Page was already under FBI investigation (like Paul Manafort) before the Trump campaign even existed.

We knew of Russian interference since 2016. It did not take a special prosecutor to uncover it.

Mueller uncovered exactly who did it and how - from the fake identities used to buy servers to the bitcoin transactions used to pay for them to the relationship between wikileaks and Russia.  The details Mueller was able to figure out are impressive, all while being obstructed at every turn by the President of the United States.  And that's only based on what's public.

The President of a Country obstructing an investigation into a foreign adversary interfering in the election that he had just won.  Think about that for a second.
2558  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: November 24, 2020, 10:34:37 PM
Only evidence that they Mueller went after Trump directly with though was in regards to interference though, right? All of this sounds so long ago but it really wasn't, which is an insane thing for all of us to think about. Yes some Trump people were indicted, but there was no ability of the Mueller investigation to prove direct links to Trump in terms of his knowledge or direct approval of what was going on, right? Let me know if I'm misremembering or something here, not trying to change the story or anything, just curious.

That's the thing, it wasn't a 'trump investigation' that's just what Trump made it seem like.  It was an investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, which included ties between the Trump campaign and Russia.  There was interference, and there were ties between the campaign and Russia.  It was not a witch hunt.

In the end, he did lay out several clear instances of obstruction that Trump would've likely been already charged with if he were not the sitting president - and left the door open for a few other charges.

"it is important to preserve evidence while memories are fresh and documents available"
-Mueller

Although he'll probably have a few 'get out of federal prison free' cards, I suspect Muellers findings will haunt Trump long after he leaves office.

2559  Other / Politics & Society / Re: America was founded against racism, and religious intollerance not for it. on: November 24, 2020, 09:57:04 PM


(A) You're part and parcel of the nation that tortured Turing.
(B) By post modern historical revisionism you share that guilt
(C) Fuck you.
(D) Now STFU, go into the corner and meditate over your guilt.

....ad hominem deleted...
So you won't share the guilt of how England handled Turing, but you want to lecture others?

>>>Incomprehensible word salad deleted >>>

usually you seem to be one of the few that can hold a good worthy debate.....

I've determined that when you are upset, you rant without making sense. Or is it if you don't have your pills?

No matter. At this point it's firmly established that you do want to sternly lecture others on THEIR white guilt, but you don't want to acknowledge YOURS.

^ad hominem attack
2560  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How will Trump leave the White House? on: November 24, 2020, 05:25:00 PM
it is actually irresponsible for any sane president to leave the whitehouse to the irrespeonsible and corrupt democrats and their puppet biden.

announcing a military dictatorship is the smaller ill than continueing democracy with america's crazy left
If Republicans keep the Senate, which looks likely, the Democrats will be forced to compromise and moderate how they govern.

A military coup would probably not last long because so many institutions are already against Trump.
I wonder if any of our allies would help if our democracy was being seized by an authoritarian.
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