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2561  Local / Discussions générales et utilisation du Bitcoin / Re: Explication du fonctionnement du Lightning Network on: July 04, 2022, 03:48:03 PM
Dans quel cas tu peux perdre tes fond ?
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Avec LN on peut perdre ses fonds déposés dans le channel si il y a un problème, ca n'incite pas à l'utiliser même si c'est toujours mieux que de laisser ses fonds sur une plateforme.

Justement,
Si le channel a un soucis. Le channel est clos et tu retrouve automatique tes fond onchain.
Et il s'agit bien de ta clef privé donc de tes coins.

La seul chose que l'on dit est que comme il est encore en test . Il ne faut pas mettre enormement dedans.
Rassure toi c'est plus Secure que toutes la DEFI.
Par exemple si tu as un problème sur ton ordi, et que les fichiers de ton wallet sont corrompus par exemple, tu ne pourras pas retrouver/récupérer ton channel alors qu'avec Bitcoin-blockchain avec la seed tu pourras toujours récupérer tes fonds quoiqu'il arrive même si ton disque dur crashe ou que tu perds ton portable.
Et puis il y aussi ces histoires de force close frauduleux qui semblent être possibles dans certains cas.

Quote
Fraudulent Force Close
An invalid unilateral close of a channel, caused by broadcasting a commitment transaction that does not represent the newest channel state agreed upon by the participants.
If the invalid close is not detected by the other peer within the to_self_delay window, the malicious peer will get away with the fraudulent close and may steal some of their peer's money in the channel
If the invalid close is detected by the other peer or by a Watchtower service, the other peer can use proof that the commitment was revoked, called a commitment revocation secret key, to create and broadcast a penalty transaction that punishes the peer who attempted a fraudulent force close.
https://wiki.ion.radar.tech/tech/channels/channel-closing#fraudulent-force-close
 
2562  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io 🎾 Wimbledon 🎾 Prediction Contest (Round 4) on: July 04, 2022, 03:21:46 PM
Sorry jeremypwr I misread, I thought it was Novak Djokovic vs Jannik Sinner. I remove my entry. My apologies.
2563  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io 🎾 Wimbledon 🎾 Prediction Contest (Round 4) on: July 04, 2022, 03:10:23 PM
a) 12 b) 2:01
a) 16 b) 2:04
2564  Economy / Gambling / Re: On Sportsbet.io I have faced injustice on: July 04, 2022, 02:03:20 PM
I’m curious about the result of your parlay bet, Does your parlay completely voided because of this specific match? This is really sucks if that’s the case but remember sportsbook should protect too there business that’s why they made this kind of terms.
This is correct analysis on both bet types that OP brought up. Voiding unfinished game is the most common to handle this kind of situation but I have no idea if the parlay it belong will be voided too or payout without the odds of voided game.Although I’m unsure if the whole parlay is right to be voided for this result since this fall under special cases but still it depends on the terms and condition of the casino with regards to there game will govern on this matter.
No, on sportsbet when a leg is voided, it doesn't make the whole parlay to lose or to be voided. The odds of the leg are just replaced by 1.00 instead of the initial odds. On the picture of the betslip provided by OP, we can see his parlay had finally won (0.909 ETH)

2565  Local / Altcoins (Français) / Re: NapoleonX on: July 04, 2022, 11:44:18 AM
Napoleon a finalement été racheté par CoinShares pour 15 millions de dollars selon cointelegraph, ce rachat est semble-t-il avant tout motivé par la licence AIFM qu'ils avaient réussi à décrocher, mais ça pourrait malgré tout permettre de les relancer si les acquéreurs ont de bons projets.
Le token était tombé en déshérence, devenu un quasi dead coin, même plus listé par coinmarketcap.
Il semble être encore disponible sur quelques DEX d'après coingecko.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinshares-acquires-french-crypto-asset-manager-napoleon-am
https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/07/04/2473253/0/en/CoinShares-acquires-Napoleon-Asset-Management-the-first-AIFM-regulated-crypto-asset-manager.html
2566  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: [BTC] Le bitcoin devrait remonter.... ou peut être redescendre on: July 04, 2022, 11:16:10 AM
Effectivement avec le recul je ne pense pas qu'il était "apeuré" comme il semble me reprocher, de constater qu'une correction était en train de s'amorcer. Pour rappel on était à 65k  Roll Eyes
2567  Local / Actualité et News / Re: \\_[FUD coming]_// on: July 04, 2022, 08:53:43 AM
Salut les cryptonote ça fait un bail..ouai je sais on dirait pas et puis de tout façon qui s'en souci  Cheesy

juste pour dire qu'il il y a une tornade de fud contre les stablecoins en ce moment, entre tether et ses boursorama paper en passant par l'usdc et sa soit disant exposition à la DEFI, et le scandale de l'ust...bref who are the next...?

donc je voulais juste vous présentez ce site (sans affiliation ou autres vice caché), le voici: https://stablecoins.wtf/ pour faire un peu de tri dans tous ces pseudo token backed. peg et/ou collatéralisé, la liste n'est pas exhaustive mais il y a les principaux et surement que celle ci sera étoffer par la suite. aller bon dyor à vous  Wink
Pas mal pour surveiller ces marchés particuliers et suivre en direct un éventuel crash, en revanche ils ne se sont pas embêtés dans le choix des stables, ils n'ont listé que des stable USD. Sympa pour les autres pays et pour l'or. J'espère que le site va évoluer pour pouvoir surveiller toutes les stables, parce qu'avec l'inflation galopante aux US, le dollar n'est peut-être pas la monnaie la plus sûre à l'heure actuelle, même le rouble a fait mieux qu'elle ces derniers mois, c'est dire.
2568  Local / Français / Re: Vos propositions d'amélioration du forum Français on: July 04, 2022, 08:18:35 AM
Ma question est ouverte mais le nombre de rubriques n'est-il pas le principal handicap de la section au fond?
Lorsque je regarde les autres local boards je vois une demi-ligne de child boards pour la plupart à une ligne entière pour les plus gros. La section française est la seule avec la section italienne à avoir une ligne et demi de child boards.
Notre section est divisée en 16 rubriques alors que la section indonésienne qui contient plus d'un million de posts n'en dispose que de 3, à titre de comparaison.  

Les nouveaux arrivants et non-récurrents peuvent être perdus, et ne pas savoir où regarder et où poster devant autant de sous-sections.
Et même pour les habitués c'est lourd parfois, on rate régulièrement des posts qui auraient pu nous intéresser car "cachés" dans des rubriques que l'on fréquente peu ou moins.

Bref, compte tenu de l'activité de la section Fr a-t-on vraiment besoin d'avoir une section Actu et une section Discussion et une section Specu?
A-t-on besoin d'avoir une section "Vos sites et projets" alors qu'il y a une section "Produits et services" et une section developpement?
Le mining a-t-il toujours besoin d'avoir sa propre rubrique en 2022? Ne pourrait-il pas fusionner avec la section "Développement et technique"?
La section "Petites annonces" n'est-elle pas un boulet? Les gens y postent des annonces qui devraient être postées dans Échanges ou Produits et services, rendant plus compliquée la recherche d'annonces justement et cassant la dynamique des 2 autres sections. Quelle est la fonction précise de cette (sous)rubrique d'ailleurs?
2569  Economy / Gambling / Re: risk of kyc on crypto casinos ? on: July 03, 2022, 07:04:03 PM
Nitrobetting, Betcoin, Playbetr, Freebitcoin are sites that never ask for KYC unless you use a VPN.
I was talking about Nitrogen Sports, not Nitrobetting. This is 2 different platforms even if they belong to the same company, their ToS and policy are different.
Nobody quoted them but Bitvest and 777coin are also not requiring any KYC to gamble.(Edit : Danydee mentioned 777coin)

Nitrogensports.eu will stop taking action July 6. They are migrating to Nitrobetting.eu. Fully anonymous with bonuses. https://blog.nitrogensports.eu/promotions/announcement-player-migration-from-nitrogen-sports-to-nitrobetting/?utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=website
I wasn't aware of that, thank you for giving me this information. There is no ANN thread for Nitrogen Sports/Nitro Betting? Because I didn't see anything related to that matter recently. It's a little bit sad unfortunately because AFAIK policies of nitrogen sports were less strict than Nitro betting and the website was faster to load and easier to use from what I could notice.
2570  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io ⚽ São Paulo FC ⚽ Prediction Contest (Sunday) on: July 03, 2022, 06:51:04 PM
Game 1:  9' draw 1-1
2571  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: My questions regarding wallet on: July 03, 2022, 06:43:00 PM
You can use devices as cold wallet without having to sacrifice them, that was my point.
If you are no longer using the device as a cold wallet and have emptied all the wallets it was storing, then sure, you could put the WiFi card back in and connect it up to the internet again. You would have to start from scratch again in terms of airgapping and formatting the device if you wanted to use it as a cold wallet again though. You can't just reconnect and disconnect on a whim and think your device is still safe.
The goal of an air gapped computer/device is to be usable even if infected/compromised. You will never be 100% sure your computer is safe because nobody can guarantee that your operating system and the chips of your computer are free from any backdoor. It's ok to import datas into an air gapped computer, what is wrong is to export outside uncontrolled datas.
2572  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: [TUTORIAL] - How to create a multi-signed wallet on Electrum on: July 03, 2022, 11:02:43 AM
Guys, thank you so much for the comments and advice.
This is one of the first topics I create outside of the portuguese board.
There is a lot of important content on the portuguese board that deserves to be translated and shared with others, as this may help some members who do not have a solid knowledge of Bitcoin/Blockchain and other things.

This is a good idea, I'll translate some relevant topics and post more often on some specific boards, especially on the "Beginners & Help" board

@o_e_l_e_o, noted, thanks a lot for the corrections, and sharing some notes with me.
I believe that with these observations I can improve my English and also avoid making mistakes in translation.

@RickDeckard ok thank you very much and I will improve the topic soon.

@Pmalek, no problem, I just translated this topic (portuguese > english)
Your tutorial is pretty useful and you are even recommending it to beginners but unfortunately your pictures are still in portuguese language. I don't think it's very convenient for beginners because we can't directly translate text in pictures with a translator and they could do mistakes because of that. RickDeckard seems to think the same as me and he took time to shoot those screens in english localization, you should incorporate them or take your own screens in english but it would be better to update your tutorial before recommending it to beginners IMO.
2573  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Fear of losing my coins grabbed me by neck on: July 03, 2022, 10:41:43 AM
Brothers and Sisters on the forum I need your help, I don't have money for a hardware wallet and all I have left is android wallet, the problem is fear of copying my private key into something else, I have come to realise that clicking on COPY on your phone can be dangerous, where to decide to PASTE can be unsafe too, for those who aren't using hardware wallet how are you doing it? What is the safe procedure with mobile wallet users.
If you have a tablet or a computer that you don't need to connect to internet you can use them as cold wallet. You will use them to sign your transactions with the seed they store and use your smartphone to create unsigned transactions in "watch only" mode and to broadcast transactions signed by your cold device. It's very easy with Electrum, you can also make a multisig wallet with your cold device as co-signer, it's almost the same thing as explained in the thread of gagux123 quoted above. If you need to connect your cold device, you will have to send your funds to another seed before and to never use this seed again.
2574  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: My questions regarding wallet on: July 03, 2022, 10:07:19 AM
If you want to safely store your funds in a mobile phone, it's better to use an old one as a cold wallet.
I don't think it is possible to turn a mobile phone in to a true cold wallet. Even on flight mode it still receives and transmits data via a number of channels.
Which ones are you thinking about precisely please? If the sim card is out of order/removed and if there is no connectable wifi network where you are I don't understand how a smartphone could leak a seed outside neither any data.

You can also do the opposite : using an old laptop or tablet that you won't connect till their seed is in use
Cold storage should never connect to the internet, even for a moment. If it does, then it is no longer cold storage.
If there is not anymore funds in the seed they store and if you don't plan to use this seed again (like anybody should do) I don't understand what risk there is in using them again. You can use devices as cold wallet without having to sacrifice them, that was my point.
2575  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: My questions regarding wallet on: July 03, 2022, 09:13:23 AM
Dear Members,

I have a few questions regarding wallet to store crypto bitcoin over $20k and other altcoins as below.

1) I use a trust wallet to store crypto. My question is how safe it is to store over $20k coins? Yes, of course, I take care of keeping my mobile safe and virus/malware free so never click on any unknown link as know about his as i am in IT field.

 There are many YouTubers who always recommend for hardware wallet to store coins valued over $10k but i have following questions regarding hardware wallet?

2) What if I lost or damage my hardware wallet? Do i need to buy same hardware wallet and restore my coins? or can use private keys in any other online wallet and get my coins back?

3) What if the hardware wallet is damaged or corrupt?

4) Instead of hardware wallet can I keep the separate phone to store my coins in wallet app like trustwallet and keep disconnecting from the internet unless i want to do transaction. Is this a better choice?
A hardware wallet is safer than a software connected wallet because it works in the same way as a cold wallet. That is to say, it internally signs transactions with its seed and only sends those signed transactions to the computer without exposing the seed.
If you want to safely store your funds in a mobile phone, it's better to use an old one as a cold wallet. That is to say, you should never use it as a phone till your funds belong to the seed in it, you should remove the sim card and only use it in airplane mode (no wifi and even bluetooth connection). It's even better to physically turn off/remove antennas if you can. You can also do the opposite : using an old laptop or tablet that you won't connect till their seed is in use and broadcasting signed transactions with your smartphone.
2576  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to cash out crypto payment on: July 03, 2022, 08:10:02 AM
Thanks to all.

I wanted to cash out to ATM card and someone told me about bitsa card but from some reason it is not compatible with any of my 4 android phones !! I dont want to go into risky deals each time


You can try and do some deals here at bitcointalk. There are some services and P2P trading available at Currency Exchange Board and in case you don’t want to risk any deals, you can ask for an Escrow to make no scam will happen during the trade. Escrow service requires minimal fee but there some trusted users here that will provide that for free.

How this helps you on doing P2P deals.
CMIIW but if he is looking for exchanging USDC against fiat it's certainly more accurate to look at the Altcoins Marketplace. On top of that he can find trustworthy Moroccan members in the Arabic or French speaking local sections. There is even a marketplace section at the french speaking board.

BTW the ANN of Bisq is here if he is looking for https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230289
2577  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io - UFC 276 - Multi Master Challenge on: July 02, 2022, 09:53:15 PM
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9) Sean O’Malley
8) Jalin Turner
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5) Jim Miller
4) Andre Muniz
3) Maycee Barber
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Match 12 Total Strikes : 138
2578  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Pros and Cons of Bitcoin Gambling on: July 02, 2022, 09:44:23 PM
Which casino are you talking about precisely MonsterV? Because most of crypto casinos I know don't require KYC (including the one you're promoting) unless you're not a rather big winner. Bitcoins and other cryptos allow players to gamble quietly without being bored by issues with their bank or their state authorities prohibiting gambling at offshore casinos and all nice games.

With bitcoin gambling there is no need for kyc for online casino's. Its advantage is that countries where gambling is not allowed can can take part in gambling while the down side is teens under 18 can also take part in such online gambling platforms. It's just a double edge sword IMO.
I don't understand why it's a matter if they are under 18. This is not porn websites or dark marketplaces. It's up to their parents to monitor them. Moreover when you are under 18 you usually have not much money to spend, and rarely a rent to pay, then risks of losing big amount of money and getting ruined is pretty low.
2579  Economy / Gambling / Re: risk of kyc on crypto casinos ? on: July 02, 2022, 09:31:51 PM
Yobit provides .... while they never ask KYC.
The same like btc-e.com, no mandatory KYC.. it was a very great platform..
 
 About Yobit dice game, it's with like 4% house edge?! Not very sure that here's people that will deposit just to playing that game.. regardless the fact it is not provably faire, not provide custom settings, without auto-bet bot !
Not provably fair but from what I've seen their dice is fair, I'm playing dice every day there and I've never encountered weird results until now. The house edge is rather high but afaik it's the dice game with the most altcoins available of the crypto space as for now. Then it can be interesting if you have dead coins and you don't know what to do with them. There are also few other games like the pony race from what I know.
2580  Economy / Gambling / Re: How do you know how to trust online sportsbooks? on: July 02, 2022, 03:18:04 PM
We have a big role here and that is to give our honest feedback on the gambling sites that we are using so people will know if the gambling site can be trusted or not. However, reputation are build overtime, and there are gambling sites that are good now but overtime they'll turn into a trash gambling site and will just scam people, so we have to be aware of that too and don't put our money in one basket, more gambling sites to trust the better IMO.
I agree with you we have a big role, unfortunately many participants of the section are not real gamblers and are just here to reach their mandatory quota of gambling posts, and don't make reliable feedbacks. I also agree reputation is not sufficient to blindly trust any casino, as you say any renowned casino can turn into a scammy one. Because owners have changed, the casino is losing money or just because it doesn't care anymore to its reputation as it uses to do. During bear markets like the one we are encountering people have to be more vigilant.
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