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2581  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Bitcoin? on: May 21, 2016, 03:33:07 AM
Gambling and bitcoin are good combination. the payment of bitcoin from gambling is simple
and deposit or withdrawal no need a long time.

This is true and because of this its very nice to gamble with the bitcoin, you can also see that its really coming up, there are more gamblers joining the bitcoin everyday just to gamble with it.
Majority of users of bitcoin I guess are those from the gambling industry, although they just gamble a small amount of money due to trust issue with the online gambling sites but considering their volume would already total to huge amount of BTC.
You are right, the gambling industry help promote bitcoins that is why bitcoin is very popular nowadays, with bitcoins in gambling, people have a good experience as they play anonymous and can play with minimum requirements.
2582  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: May 21, 2016, 03:17:33 AM
Nope, I will spent my time and money with my family to go somewhere rather than gambling

Good thinking. That is a better thing to do than waste your time gambling. It is wiser to spend your free time with your family than go on a casino and lose a part of your money. You and your family enjoy and you strengthen your bond together. But if you gamble, you are the only one enjoying.
But there is a serious issue with that also. For your family hangout, you can go many other places except gambling. Because gambling are always dangerous to get addicted to any one of your family members. Whether a member from your family got addicted to gambling then it will be a problem for the entire family.
Being rich you have a lot of opportunity to enjoy because money and time is not your problem, you have a financial freedom. You can go somewhere else with your family but sometimes we like to explore another type of enjoyment and we lead to gambling, for the rich to be not addicted they just need to treat gambling as entertainment.
2583  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: May 21, 2016, 03:04:45 AM
Ether is abruptly increasing now because of the DAO, how I wish I predicted this to happen so I could have bought it when the price goes down to 0.015. Too bad, I was not able to ride with the train but anyway this will not last and fall back again hard in due time.
2584  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: May 20, 2016, 09:31:56 AM
Gambling is passion of some people so it doesn't matter they are rich or not but they want to play all the time there, if i were rich yes no doubt would like to do gambling because like to spend my time on online gambling sites.
I like it being called as passion, if we consider it passion then gambling should fun. I can say that gambling also is my passion it helps me to become smart, i did my research regularly on the games I bet before the actual game, in that way I can also learn. No problem with me actually because I treat it as an entertainment and it would not affect my life in a negative way.
2585  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it a good long term investment to buy 1 BTC today? on: May 20, 2016, 09:28:35 AM
You have a good point. The long term investors need to have multiple investment vectors and the short term investors are constantly undermining the market.
Long term investors are those investors with enough amount to invest because they can wait for a longer period of time to profit, while we who only have a little amount of money and we want to increase it, we can do short term investment, doing day trade is a good idea for me.
2586  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: May 20, 2016, 07:10:03 AM
When it comes to gambling it is so hard to stay positive, you will always lose more money then win in the long run. This is one of the biggest reasons I do not like to gamble because I know that I am going to loose my money.
yeah with the formula that the house will always win. you should be able to think for a moment if you stop losing streak. gambling is a fortune. if you do not have that then you will be defeated
Only a lucky person can win in gambling actually, but even if you are lucky you cannot win all the time because luck is not consistent. They key here is to win consistently and if we cannot do that then we will lose in the long run.
2587  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: May 20, 2016, 07:08:40 AM
I would never cry when if I lost with gambling that is just not a manly thing to do. I have to say that I would cry if I would win the jackpot or something then I would just cry out of happiness. Only then you can cry as a man. 


No problem when you cried because you lose in gambling, it is a heartbreak when you lose your hard earned money because of gambling. On how you are thinking that, it is better if I just didn't gamble today , that I spend the money to eat somewhere with delicious cuisines. Or rather enjoy it buying new gadgets or travelling somewhere.

But the point on people playing gambling is because of the instant money they get from it, rather than get their money that they will not gonna profit they would rather take the risk in playing gambling.

But not all the time you can get money instantly there's always a risk in playing gambling. The addiction of gamblers are very hard to removed they will just realize it if they experience to lose a big amount of it.

Yup! that is common for gambling, but I think they would rather take a small risk that can make them profit than get their money to spend on other things that they can not gain anything! I think that was their mind set on gambling!
In overall, gambling does not really gives us profit, this is already proven base on my analysis because majority of us here are losers. Nobody can beat the house or the gambling sites because they have the advantage as they set the rules. So, the longer we play the more we loses.
2588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: May 20, 2016, 06:57:44 AM

maybe there is 10 % of rich gambler are doing like that because even if he is rich that don't make him know how to manage his money and gamble carefully he can make bet with high amount .

not easy to get rich in gambling, may be you are right there is 10% of rich in gambling
and I think that is a professional gambler.
I think we are talking here if you are rich would you still gamble and not becoming rich through gambling. I just want to correct it as we don't want this thread to be mislead, as much as possible we need to maintain a healthy discussion here.
2589  Economy / Speculation / Re: The future of Bitcoin on: May 20, 2016, 06:55:54 AM
The future of bitcoin is dead
and new cryptocurrency with highest technology come again.
You may be right, you may be wrong. Nobody exactly knows what's gonna happen 10, 20, 30 years from now. But BTC is not going to replaced easily, what with the technology behind it and the support it is getting from its users. Mass adoption might take a while, but we can see progress everyday. And that I think is a step in the right direction towards BTC's survival.

yeah the community is getting bigger and bigger, more users, more businesses are entering into bitcoin that clearly indicates that future of bitcoin is very bright.

the majority of the merchants simply have a third party such as bitpay converting all sales in bitcoin to fiat instantly. merchants won't see anything of the coins unless they want to get a certain percentage to be paid out in bitcoin. that's also possible. but there are barely any merchants willing to hold these coins.
Merchants are not focused on investing in bitcoin, they just use it as a medium of payment in their daily transactions. This is just a system for them to strengthen their marketing side.
2590  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: May 20, 2016, 06:48:54 AM
just dont rage when you lose bet
That's true, we should not let our emotions affect our decision in gambling. If we lose, never chase just to get back your money because that is a recipe for disaster. You can always bet if you want because you have the means to do it online, and even everyday you can bet. Just don't do stupid things to make you last in the game.
Honestly gambling is for fun why are you become rage while playing.. If you really want to recover all of your loses better to dont greedy.. and be satisfied what you had.. and also i think it needs patience to because you need to be satisfactory if you win even low amount..
People become rage because they lose while gambling, and when they lose they will do anything to get back there losses by doing indiscipline way of gambling. They will chase their loses until they knew it that their hard earned money is gone.
2591  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: May 20, 2016, 06:40:11 AM
the Investment for bitcoin is trading bitcoin it is selft even if i am still learning about that.
That's good for you, I hope you will have a successful life in trading. However, if you want a simple thing to do and a guaranteed profit in the future without exerting to much of your effort, I suggest you buy bitcoins and just hold it for a long period of time.
2592  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: May 20, 2016, 06:27:14 AM
Get a hobby that need much time like fishing, play online games and do gym. That will make you forget about gambling and in the end you will forget about gambling.
Playing online works for me like league of legends but the result is addicted in league of legends and sometimes 18 hours i am playing league of legends.. until now while im reading some thread here in our forum im playing..
I don't have an idea about League of Legends, is that gambling? if that is then that is bad, the way you play it online that you need to exert 18 hours a day just to do it is not normal and will cause addiction to you. Your health might even at risk, so you better balance your life.

League of Legends is actually an online game (Multiplayer Online Battle Arena (MOBA)) a strategy game. Actually playing online games makes your better and keep away from gambling but don't abuse when you play on  computer for a long hours.
It's true, we work and even do gambling because we want to have a comfortable life. But if you abuse you body doing some shitty things then doing a lot of hardwork is useless. Even if you do no gamble and you do online games to stay away in gambling but doing some sort of addiction is bad for your health.
2593  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: May 20, 2016, 05:59:02 AM
Waves price will likely spike to $1 on launch day.  Cool
$1.5 is the peek.

You guys don't know the power of waves... 5$ on launch, no less  <----  guarunteed for sure, no doubt the fat lady will surf the waves
OK my official prediction. We launch at $0.50. Spike to $1 dollar. 24 hr high is $5. Sell off back down to $1.  Cool
You guys have a very conservative projection of our beloved waves. I think the amount of waves after the ICO will be $25. We just need to believe in there guys and spread the good news to reach our target funds.
2594  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 20, 2016, 03:23:07 AM
Right now its better to do both, no one knows the future of the bitcoin and because of that I think investing is good but saving up money is also.
You never know what will happen with the bitcoin right.
Doing both can be done in bitcoin, it you are a real believer it is just simple to do both saving and investing. You just need to buy bitcoins now and save it in your wallet and pray that the value will increase in the future.
2595  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin to be international currency on: May 20, 2016, 03:21:44 AM
It is already an international currency. People are using it instead of boring bank transfers to get their money across the globe.

Bitcoin is designed to be an international currency and it has all the criteria to be an international currency. I can't see why it won't be.

Yes, it is, but only some people know bitcoin and use bitcoin. So it's become useless if bitcoin become an international currency but only some people use bitcoin,.

Actually it had already become an international currency within the bitcoin community, with bitcoin, it unite different countries to use it. Even though there are only few users of bitcoin now but it has a good signal that it will increase in the future. As long as bitcoin perform to be worthy it will gain the trust of the majority in the future.
2596  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: May 20, 2016, 03:18:38 AM
In my opinion there are no really smart ways, the only smart way I know is by just always put low bets and be patient sometimes, never bet with high amounts because if you lose you will regret it for sure and you can also become poor very fast by doing this.
Putting low bets are not a basis of being smart, I can still put huge bets and considered my self smart. The key here, is to be able for us to bet only the amount we can afford to lose and be entertained while doing gambling.
2597  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: May 20, 2016, 03:17:02 AM
Ufcourse bitcoin is worth a lot to me... Cuz it is rad and micropayments are rad. I mean every altcoins are rad, granted they grow like btc.

Bitcoin has help quite a lot for me when its comes with my dealings in online transactions; when I don’t have enough fiat I just ask my client if they would prefer bitcoin; and I’ve got out of some really sticky situations that way.

The main reason that people is buying some Bitcoin is that you have to know that it will be the most important to make profit with Bitcoin and it is not that easy to earn profit.
Because it can really takes a long time until the value will be more worth so we need the patience for it.
The standard basis of saying bitcoin is worth to us or not is not just about profit, I even have no profit in bitcoin overall but I would say it is worth to me. Why? with bitcoin, it enables me to gamble regularly at any site I would like, with that it brings me enjoyment in my life so that alone is already a value for me.
2598  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greatest gambling victory on: May 20, 2016, 03:14:58 AM
Greatest victory of all time is betting upon a toss between Pakistan and Australia on the past world t20. I just earned a decent amount of $20 in a very short time.
That is the one of the reason, people are always calling sports betting would be safer and assured way of gambling for making profits. Comparatively, cricket betting would be easier as there are very less number of teams, and usually Australia dominance all others countries.
As you know it is hard to have a victory in gambling because there are still a lot of people with a gambling problem because they cant stop gambling and they are just only losing money.
And that must not happen because you can also be poor of it and that is not that best.
Actually I can say that we have a lot of gambling victories in life as we gamble regularly, but the thing is, I cannot considered as a real victory because in overall I am down big. I would not even chase those losses of mine before because I understand that by doing it, It would wreck my life.
2599  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this what we called "addictive to gamble"? on: May 20, 2016, 03:05:53 AM
to me, addiction may not be as harmful as what the others say. I feel that you are considered addicted if you keep want to gamble frequently.
Of course addiction is harmful because if you are addict with gambling, most likely your decisions are not sound. I would love to be addicted in gambling if everytime I gamble I always win but that is impossible so that is bad.

haha that is not going to happen, if someone can always win (which will never happen in real life by the way) this means that the casino is losing and we all know that the house always wins otherwise they will go bankrupt in a couple of days.
I think it is all about the volume of winners and losers and not just by individual gamblers. Even if someone is always winning but majority are overall losers the gambling site can still make profit. It is already given because the house always win and they only care for profit so they will do anything to make the rules in favor of them.
2600  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: May 20, 2016, 03:03:25 AM
im one sick bastard then xD

You better cure your sickness when it is still early and there is still medicine to stop that. Earlier solution and curing it will be better, rather than if you already get addicted to gambling and no one could stop well it will become a syndrome xD
Absolutely, being addicted with gambling is hardest disease to cure, that is an emotional disease where you cannot control your self and you just gamble regularly just to satisfied your cravings to it. When you gamble you cannot decided well so in the long run you will lose and might lead you to bankruptcy.

Yes Sickness thats a better word for Gambling. Its sort of sickness.  It is just a pay for entertaining if you are just want to play to win you will lose everything, gambling is for fun not for living. But if you are lucky , you can be the richest in small amount of time.
you should  manage with right balance and timing to quit. will help you to not lose too much.

I beg to disagree, gambling has nothing to do with your life if you are not into it. It is just an establishment and it does force people to gamble. Only those irresponsible gamblers should consider gambling as sickness in their life but in totality it cannot be considered as sickness.
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