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261  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Im just been attacked and robbed on my MT Gox account on: August 10, 2011, 04:34:46 AM
Hi, I checked the account history quickly, and saw the hack had nothing to do with your account email. The attacker used the reset password function and got the right reset key right after, which he used to change your password. Therefore here are my questions for you:

  • Was your email password strong too?
  • Are you sure you NEVER logged into your email from any other place than your home, on a safe computer (ie. never used that email from a mobile device, for example)

MagicalTux, so if you make the account read-only for 1 week after such an event and display a notice about that having happened in big letters after login, then the risk of such a theft happening again is much lower. You can make this an option at account creation and even let the user specify the read-only time.


We'll start with something more simple, the "security question" on password reset. This should help a lot.
262  Economy / Marketplace / Re: MT GOX Sepa still not working ? on: August 10, 2011, 01:26:03 AM
Just a note, be REALLY careful when accepting wire transfers and/or sepa transfers, as many of those are fraudulent (that's our main issue with banks in Europe right now, especially in France where banks are f****** r******* and have no clue to what kind of fraud exist in this world).

Right now we are using the fact that legally we cannot have no bank account in France as a company (the French laws says we are allowed to have a bank account, the French "central bank" - Banque de France - assigned us a bank, but that bank refused to create the account, so we are assigning it in front of a judge. We have filed on August 8th, had a reply on August 9th, and ruling will happen on August 11th, most likely forcing the bank to follow the law).

In the meantime for Europe we are opening a bank account with a bank which is a bit better at handling large volume of international wires/SEPA in Switzerland. They do however check a lot of details on their customers, which adds some delay in having the bank account opened. Things there are progressing smoothly. We started the procedure on July 1st, and got approval on August 8th. We did the initial deposit on August 9th and it should take no more than 2 weeks from that for us to receive the required elements to access this bank account online.


At the same time we have also progressed with HSBC in Hong Kong. I went there directly to meet HSBC and talk about possibilities of us being able to accept funds from anywhere in the world through the HSBC network. The discussion will take some time, as they want to see how we handle things. We'll have a new bank account in Hong Kong (we already do, in fact, I'm just waiting for the online access token which should be delievered soon via DHL) which will allow us to waive all fees on incoming international wires, and make free outgoing international wires.
263  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Im just been attacked and robbed on my MT Gox account on: August 05, 2011, 11:53:46 PM
Hi, I checked the account history quickly, and saw the hack had nothing to do with your account email. The attacker used the reset password function and got the right reset key right after, which he used to change your password. Therefore here are my questions for you:

  • Was your email password strong too?
  • Are you sure you NEVER logged into your email from any other place than your home, on a safe computer (ie. never used that email from a mobile device, for example)
264  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MtGox donates $4096 to Humble Indie Bundle 3 on: August 03, 2011, 11:53:10 PM
if HIB accepted bitcoin, then it would be worth a discussion.

We are talking with them, and they are interested, now. We'll be doing something real soon Smiley (and MtGox will likely handle this for them, thru making this $4096 a quite nice investment indeed)
265  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Symantec Flagging Bitcoin-miner as a trojan on: August 03, 2011, 04:50:46 PM
Is anyone else seeing this?  I logged into my computer today only to see a security alert telling me that "bitcoin-miner.exe" (the one included in the gui miner) is a "trojan.gen".  I wonder if heuristics don't like its behavior or do you think a bad version slipped in?

There were also several random named files in the temp dir that where flagged as well as the same generic trojan.

Would make sense as botnets gets exploited to mine bitcoins ~
266  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Open letter to online exchanges and wallets: use fractional reserve! on: August 03, 2011, 04:43:59 PM
Now that Mtgox has confessed to keep the coins offline (not necessarily a bad thing) what are you continuity of operations plans? What happens if you die or are jailed? How is someone going to restore those funds in the event you can't?

Unfortunately I cannot provide this kind of information without creating useless risks for the stored coins. As we grow we will create more ways of ensuring continuity on which we will be able to communicate openly.
267  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Open letter to online exchanges and wallets: use fractional reserve! on: August 03, 2011, 04:10:43 PM
MagicalTux: Any plans to allow individual users to move their coins offline as described above?

That would be a pain, both to explain to users, and to implement. Plus actually, we can say that about 98% of all funds deposited by users are put offline. We have a handful of very big depositors who know they cannot withdraw their full balance in one go as we don't keep that much online.

Anyway we always keep only 2% of the balance online, which means that even in the case something happens to the online coins we could still guarantee 98% of users funds (we intend to write our ToS with this in mind, however it's not easy to put together). Of course we are doing everything possible to avoid this to ever happen.
268  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Open letter to online exchanges and wallets: use fractional reserve! on: August 03, 2011, 03:36:49 PM
Well, I guess it's obvious enough, but yes, we do already keep a large part of the bitcoins in offline wallets, and also have fake offline wallets stored in various places which I would not disclose (each one is encrypted too, of course, but let's avoid useless troubles).

The good thing is we can add bitcoins to those wallets without accessing them, we just keep a list of addresses (signed) and send only when needed.
269  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Any independent confirmation of guests at Bitcoin NYC conference? on: August 03, 2011, 02:52:37 PM
We would have come (MtGox) if someone told us about this with a bit more advance notice (it falls right on japanese holidays of obon, which means planes are expensive and mostly overbooked)~
270  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: mtgox > 1.3 million/btc - 2 million buy order on: August 03, 2011, 12:25:40 AM
I noticed their announcement, but as said, i cannot believe it. What happened this time happened before, when they alleged it was a hack. I mean, it happens because of the same reason. I just wonder, what they will tell us next time - for sure these things will happen again and again.

By the way, what ensures us, the users, whether a trade was erroneous or not. Right after the crash prices went up over 1.50$, this is very unlikely to happen, isn't it?

We do not cancel trades, unless there is really a need to.
271  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ATTN: MtGox on: August 02, 2011, 11:53:47 PM
Yes, anyone from GOX listening?

The bot issue is annoying, but not nearly as annoying when you have standing orders to sell at 14.20 and BTC goes to 14.80,
yet no execution.

And of course, the typical broken English response from GOX, "Our system was down on the week end"

Where did you get such an answer? There was no problem during the weekend.

As for the price, no, bitcoin did not go up to 14.80, only one old order which was placed at that price and which didn't get executed got executed when we rebuilt the orderbook, that's all.
272  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitInstant - Providing instant transfer services for the bitcoin economy on: August 02, 2011, 02:07:25 PM
Let me know if you need anything from our api - admin@mtgox.com
273  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: mtgox to dwolla on: August 02, 2011, 08:47:24 AM
It's always within 15 minutes, except dwolla was down a few days ago for a few hours, and since we do not get response from dwolla we do not retry automatically.

Contact info@mtgox.com if your withdraw is not on your account, our staff will be able to tell the system to retry the transfer.
274  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Important Announcement Regarding the Mybitcoin.com Downtime on: August 02, 2011, 07:19:42 AM
As for "being made fun of" just be the bigger man. All you do by kicking MyBitcoin when they're down is prove you're no better than they are.

Ok, sorry, I shouldn't have posted too fast. We do not even have proof this post was indeed made by Tom Williams.

Still, if this is truth I would very much like to know how this could happen, especially after they claimed to be secure (see quote in 2nd post) so everyone in the community can learn from this, including ourselves.
275  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Important Announcement Regarding the Mybitcoin.com Downtime on: August 02, 2011, 07:11:06 AM
Considering Mt. Gox's woes, aren't you the last person who should be opening your mouth to make fun of someone else for being hacked?

I mean, seriously. They apparently at least tried to be secure, you decided to give everyone's emails and passwords to a third party who didn't need them.

What little respect I still actually had for you is now gone forever...

We have never said we had 30 years of experience and made fun of other people who got hacked. People around here do not understand the kind of "bad" people who are around here and just go "oh look, mtgox got hacked, but we won't, we are too good for that"... now look at that. I know I shouldn't answer, but I'm tired of being made fun of by people who claim to be better, but end not being better I'd like to know HOW this happened. We need to know how this could happen.
276  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Important Announcement Regarding the Mybitcoin.com Downtime on: August 02, 2011, 07:05:51 AM
If I quote https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22221.0 ...

Quote
We use BSD servers with MAC, immutable flags, jails, PAX, SSP,
randomized mmap, secure level, a WAF, a DDoS mitigation and alert system
- -- the works. Like I said earlier. We are not amateurs. In fact,
combined we have over 30 years of experience in the payment
processing (credit card arena) industry.

Against

Quote
I'm a simple computer science major who had planned to use the site as part of my senior project and I can't even get close to covering the losses on my own.

That leaves a large difference.
277  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sold 0.008 btc for over 11,000 USD at mtgox on: August 01, 2011, 04:14:25 PM
Xiong Zhuang, I can tell you now that you will not see a penny of that withdrawal since its mostly manually processed and specially after the stuffup.

What may happen is that you would lose that money (you clearly wanted to run with it) and probably have your account locked on mtgox.

We won't lock the account, as nothing was lost. It is an interesting way of showing things. We did a fuck up with this update that didn't go right (we did a dozen during the past month and it's the first update causing a major problem, we have found why and modified the procedures to make sure it won't happen again).

Anyway in this case Xiong Zhuang told us exactly how to get the funds back (cancelling the LR withdraw, thru crediting $2000 to his account, solving the negative balance and setting everything right). There is nothing else for us to do here.

We are auditing any account which got a negative balance following that bug. Yes, Dwolla can be reversed, and yes, we will ask for reversal if someone shows an intent to be evil. AML limits on withdraws prevent us from losing any significant amount, anyway.
278  Local / Discussions générales et utilisation du Bitcoin / Re: Délai des virements MtGox et Tradehill on: August 01, 2011, 11:32:03 AM
Après cinq jours, mon virement sur TradeHill a été finalisé.
Par contre il n'est plus possible de faire de transfert de fonds en euros en les envoyant directement vers un compte de la zone SEPA... Les banques européennes n'ont pas l'air très conciliantes avec le bitcoin.

Le transfert en euros se fait par Paxum avec des frais de 0.25$ par transaction sans compter le fait que les EUR sont convertis en USD pour être à nouveau être convertis en EUR... Comment ça "kafkaïen" ?

Paxum gère aussi les comptes en euro.

Ah et aussi, on va bientôt réavoir 2 comptes en europe. L'un en France (dès que la Banque de France se bouge) et un autre en Suisse (dans les semaines à venir).

De plus nous discutons avec notre nouvelle banque HSBC (je suis allé à HK parler directement avec les gens importants de bitcoin) pour pouvoir accepter des dépôts et émettre des fonds de façon locale dans n'importe quel pays où HSBC est présent.
279  Economy / Marketplace / Re: What's did mybitcoin walk away with? on: August 01, 2011, 11:21:25 AM
Bruce Wagner: ~25k ( http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=33020.msg416038#msg416038 )
280  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I received my free Yubikey from MtGox today on: August 01, 2011, 10:57:59 AM
Thx, I did that. After the code is entered, I get logged out again, and I still can login withouth the Yubikey. I think I have to contact Mtgox support Smiley Thx for the help.

That happened to me when I touched the pad too long. Have you tried a really short tap?


Ah, thank you very much, now it works. When I pressed too short, no code was entered, so I pressed a "little bit" longer ;-)

Yep, timing can be tricky, we'll add some explanations.
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