i'll confess that i don't understand this.
leaving your client running 24/7 is an invitation to a hack. you know -- port scanners?
and what's the difference if your pooled mining proceeds show up in your wallet more or less instantly? they're in the blockchain. that's all that matters...
i mine pooled. i open my client maybe once every two or three weeks. from the account of a separate user with an extremely restrictive firewall.
You sound beyond paranoid. Do you burn the machine with thermite after your client updates the wallet and you back it up and encrypt it? You can't imagine how not worried I am about someone scanning my ports and hacking me. I am sure there are a hundred other ways for someone to hack me if they want to. If you think the measures you are taking would stop a determined hacker, you are probably sorely mistaken.
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so are you mining solo?
why else would you run the client 24/7?
No, as I said I mine in a pool. Why shut it down though? What purpose does shutting it down serve?
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My best math teacher said that if you ever wrote "obviously..." or "clearly..." you could just as easily write the supporting statement. Do that. Your argument will have this form: A thing is a currency if and only if it satisfies these requirements.... Bitcoin does not satisfy this particular requirement... therefore it is not a currency.
Should have listened to your Logic 101 teacher. If P then Q. Not P therefore not Q. If (satisfy currency requirements) then (bitcoin is a currency). Not (satisfy currency requirements) therefore not (bitcoin is a currency). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedentOne of the first logical fallacies you learn about in Logic class.
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1020mhz core 300mhz mem 1.163 v 325Mhash/s
My 5830 is a beast though. Before you bump up the voltage on these monsters, try with the stock voltage. Mine was able to overclock all the way to 1030mhz stable without changing voltage, but I wanted to keep it rock solid stable so I lowered it to 1020mhz.
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so it's really only representative of solo miners, right?
i mean, how many people start their client even once a day - or once a week, for that matter?
pooled miners probably never (effectively) run it.
i've gotta think we're approaching half a million users. it just doesn't show up on this chart.
I never close mine down. Why would I? I am a pooled miner. I want my BTC in my wallet the instant a pool sends a payment, and have never had to wait more than an hour to have funds confirmed.
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I would suggest try surviving ONLY on bitcoins for a week wherever you live. You may find its possible, even though I highly HIGHLY doubt it.
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Perhaps. Or perhaps doing things like designing working/secure phone apps, shop POS systems, ATMs, competent and easy exchanges, and easy-to-use secure wallet software just takes a bit more time.
You can't be serious. I swear 50% of the people involved with bitcoins are completely delusional. Who is investing in ATM's and POS systems? Do you know how expensive those are to implement? The totality of bitcoins are worth under a hundred million USD right now. In 2005, Visa and Mastercard alone did 100 million USD of volume for customers in around 23.87 minutes. Who the hell is investing in ATM's and POS systems for bitcoin. Come on, you guys are smarter than this.
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Do you have any clue how expensive it is to take a 3 month vacation? Or are you going to be sleeping under bridges and cooking sewer rats and hitch hiking?
How many bitcoins do you have? Also, the idea that you will pay for everything with bitcoins is nice, but completely unrealistic that is unless you need to eat, a place to sleep and transportation. Also, having to work for bitcoins while overseas is a nice idea, but how do you turn that into real money and gain access to it? Gonna take several days for the whole mtgox>Dwolla>bank account shuffle.
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What do you do on very short (30 second) rounds then, then the number "N" has not yet been reached?
Obviously all the shares would be counted. It only takes affect when the time is greater than "N". The pool would drop the shares submitted prior to "N" from consideration after "N" is reached.
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A lot of people being dicks in here for no reason. She is very attractive and although I am not a fan of tattoos personally, its not like she had it done on her forehead.
A think a lot of people on here are just shellshocked that a woman like this even knows what a bitcoin is.
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Its so weird, one of my miners can connect without a problem and the other one just keeps failing to connect. They are both on the same network using the same script to connect. Weird.
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So you seriously think US Dollar would be accepted as a currency in 2033? Highly unlikely, as a museum exhibit - maybe. So the question about "cost" in 2033 is moot. It will be exactly 1 bitcoin per bitcoin.
Are most people on this board this delusional?
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If you haven't mined at deepbit then you won't understand.
You know why I do it? I'm getting less than *HALF A PERCENT* rejects. That's right. Half a percent. Not five. Not six. Half.
That right there (plus not being down randomly, plus being credited for all submitted work) is why they're my #1 pool, with all the others as backups. And screw variance. If I wanted to risk it all I could solo mine.
Thats neat, but every single time I project what I would make at deepbit vs other pools, deepbit is at least 20% less. I am pulling easily .5 BTC/day right now while deepbit would gain me at most .36 BTC/day.
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Day trading can be very risky and I honestly wouldn't recommend it with 8000 dollars on the line.
I'd also like to point out that with hardware he has a way to recoup some if not close to all of his money back. If he buys coins then he doesn't get that security blanket.
More risk, but much more reward.
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Here's another way to look at the OP's investment. He could have spent $8000 on bitcoins. I'm sure they'll be $13 again this weekend, so I'll use that as the price.
8000/13 = 615
At 7 gigahash the OP should be mining around 3.5 bitcoins a day, at a power cost of at least .5 btc/day. Now assuming no difficulty increases we're talking 200 days to earn that many BTC.
Look at prices and difficulties right around the end of last year (200 days ago) to guestimate how likely it is your hardware will *ever* generate anywhere near 600 bitcoins over its lifetime. You've just bet 8000 dollars no ASIC of FPGA miners get introduced until well into next year, and the 7 series radeons won't be very good at mining -- both very poor bets.
Not to mention that he could sell those 615 bitcoins for 16 dollars within 1-3 days of buying them at 13 making him $1840 within a week. He could probably do this multiple times. If he bought again using all $9840 at 13 he would have 757 coins and could cash out at $12112 if it hit 16 again. Thus making more than he could ever hope to mine in the matter of 1-2 weeks.
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I am getting 323.5 Mhash/s with my Sapphire 5830 using Phoenix w/phatk and all of the enhancements to kernel.cl. Running 11.5 drivers I think with 2.4 SDK and its overclocked at 1020 core, 300 mem. Stable at 59c with the fan set at 70%. I think I have squeezed every last ounce out of this card. I can overclock more, but the gains aren't super impressive for the risk of downtime due to a crash. Been stable on this clockspeed for over 3 weeks. phoenix -u http://xxxxxxxx:xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.com:xxxx/ -k phatk DEVICE=0 VECTORS BFI_INT WORKSIZE=256 AGGRESSION=12
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LOL! you're such a troll!
Why is he a troll? What he said is right.
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Many from the states will quit, but there are still countries like China who is and will keep profiting from mining for a long while.
My question is, what would happen when mining eventually stops? What would become of BitCoin? Would it still be functional? I don't fully understand how this works.
No, if mining stopped, then bitcoin would be worthless. Mining is what verifies transactions.
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Also, I must know what Round Karma is. I want it.
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I can't mine here anymore because everytmie I switch back within 10 minutes I am disconnected. What is going on?
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