Ok so if you have ordered an Antminer D3 in first batch due to ship sept 18 cost per unit paid was $2700.00. Now Bitmain has released batch #2 shipping in october at $1599.00 per unit ?? Well this sucks if you ordered batch number #1. How can price drop $1100.00 is a few days.What do everyone think of this price drop was it worth buying in first batch or not? Is Bitmain being fair to first in line customers ?  Surely you aren't so naive. I would MUCH rather have a batch 1 D3 @ $2700 than a batch 2 D3 @ $1600. The batch 1 units will earn way more than the $1100 difference during the month delay between batch 1 and batch 2. |
|
|
|
Guys, I currently have 1 l3+ and it's enclosed in a chest freezer with 6" ducting extracting the heat into my home from my garage through a currently double boarded door... she runs very cool and noise is under 50 decibels under load now. I do have a question, now I have 3 d3's on the way I want to capture the heat and do the same process, can anybody recommend any tips/tricks for this? My initial idea was this - Can the miners be placed in a rack and pointed upwards? so the exhaust points towards the ceiling, make a custom box that captures the airflow directly over the miners, the only problem would be the noise im thinking...
Or
My dads a carpenter, ask him to knock up double box room to accommodate 5+ miners, with some sort of funnel that will channel the air into a 6" ducting...
Yes, the miners can be placed in any orientation you want without issue. As long as the airflow is not obstructed, you'll be good. I once used about 25 AntMiner S3s to heat my home through the winter and it worked great. |
|
|
|
Totally not shady at all  . I think the biggest red flag here is the D3 listed @ $3690/each when they're selling-out on eBay @ $10k/each. Too good to be true = probably not legit. |
|
|
|
|
In case anyone missed it, Bitmain opened sales for a 14TH/s S9 shipping between October 10-20 listed at $1141 (before shipping / customs fees / etc...). I'm pretty sure this is the only batch since batch 1 to reach 14TH/s.
|
|
|
|
My question is why even delay shipment of D3 till September why not just start shipping now? I highly doubt that products are not completely built so what really is holding back the shipping of them?
They probably started sales after their first pre-production run to make sure their chip design was good and so that they could advertise accurate values. Once confirmed, they setup the sale to customers for batch 1/2 and sent the final order to the production foundry. A 2-month turn-around from the foundry is actually pretty impressive considering how small Bitmain is compared to the others who are ramping up their production at the same foundries (Apple, for example). their internal mining schedule for built units is in the 1-6 month range, depending on the market. If you think you're getting money-printing machines right off the production line, you're naive. DING DING DING!!! We have a WINNER!! I'm willing to admit that my first suggestion may have been wrong and that they might have the entire 1st batch mining away already. To offer another possible explanation as to why they aren't shipping yet (other than for their own profit), they probably want to see what kind of failure rates the D3 has over time to determine if they need to fix anything in future batches. It would be unwise for Bitmain to risk another R4 incident and lose more customer confidence in their ability to deliver reliable products. |
|
|
|
So if I put it another way, even when the Prohashing front end seems flaky, it's still hashing away?
Yeah, the pool is still working - the front end is usually what goes down. If the actual pool went down, your miner would fail over to your backup pool (which you should have configured - I recommend NiceHash for backup). prohashing (even when it does not work well) and you can get paid out in any coin..even bitcoin cash (shudder) if you so desire |
|
|
|
wow, youre so generous, buying in bulk and raping the guy who was too late to order.
Nice work.
Wow, you'd think a forum that is full of people who buy cryptocurrencies with hopes of selling them at a higher price would embrace the same thing happening to a physical product. Welcome to the free market. |
|
|
|
Hi,
Can you tell me what is the most profitable coin to mine for the moment with L3+ excluding LTC.
Thanks,
The answer to your question is constantly changing. You should look into mining with a pool that supports automatic profit-switching such as prohashing.com, hash-to-coins.com, or multipool.us. |
|
|
|
If Litecoin increases its price, perhaps the L3 is interesting  The difficulty of the hash rate is increasing at a far faster pace. It is easily negating the value of the increase in the coin. The larger release of the units hasn't even hit the pools yet. LTC profitability is down almost 50% already from the stated highs. That will get much much worse. But it's a TON higher than it was up to the bit price runup, despite the recent hashrate/diff jumps. I came VERY close to shutting down my A2 units late last winter because they were very marginal on profitability DESPITE my low electric cost, and I was contemplating adding "more efficient" rigs in their place. Right now, they're bloody near my MOST profitable current rigs (though keep in mind I don't build riser-GPU rigs so all my GPU rigs are 3-card). They also cost me ballpark HALF what most of my recent GPU rigs have cost me, and are long since paid off.... X11 total network hashrate IIRC is quite a bit lower as a "number of D3 units" basis than Scrypt is on a "number of L3+ or A4 units" basis - it'll probably be longer before Scrypt profitability drops to "last year" levels for an L3+ then it will be for a D3, especially with *3* folks making big X11 units now (and who knows what Baikal will come up with to replace their current chip with). One kicker in the deck - BW.COM and their Scrypt miner, which is CLAIMED to be 28nm therefore quite a bit cheaper to design and make than 14/16nm that the L3+ and A4 seems to be based on, AND a lot easier to get chips for. If BW.COM starts making and/or selling a serious number of THOSE miners, all bets are off. Scary part - it's specs are better than the A4 and VERY CLOSE on efficiency AND hashrate to the L3+. Perhaps THIS unit is why Bitmain cut L3+ pricing? On the other hand, BW.COM had announced plans at one point to sell their Bitcoin miners, then ended up either not doing so or ONLY selling them in bulk to large farms..... My question is why even delay shipment of D3 till September why not just start shipping now? I highly doubt that products are not completely built so what really is holding back the shipping of them? They probably started sales after their first pre-production run to make sure their chip design was good and so that they could advertise accurate values. Once confirmed, they setup the sale to customers for batch 1/2 and sent the final order to the production foundry. A 2-month turn-around from the foundry is actually pretty impressive considering how small Bitmain is compared to the others who are ramping up their production at the same foundries (Apple, for example). |
|
|
|
Has non-paid orders already freed?
It's speculated that the "batch 2" we saw was from the customers who failed to pay using bitcoin/litecoin. There are still many wire-transfer orders that have not been confirmed yet. Bitmain sent an email out to customers a few days ago stating that wire transfer confirmations have been slower recently and to please allow 10-days. I've got a few wire-transfers that are 2-weeks old now for other (non D3) orders that currently show as unpaid/expired. I'm not worried as Bitmain does this often, but has always made it right. I suspect that they'll open a "batch 3" sale with the same price and shipping dates as soon as they finish processing all of the wire transfers. The available inventory will be the number of D3s that were from wire transfers that did not go through. I have no internal sources and this is purely speculation. |
|
|
|
I ordered The AntMiner L3+ for the September batch. However seeing how much the difficulty has increased without the value increasing, it doesn't look like it will be much profitable at that time.
What do you guy's think. Should I cancel my order? Can I mine another coin with the L3+ ?
On the previous page you have all the data. By using multipool ( mining other coins ) you can increase the revenue significantly. But the fall in output remains a fact, and I estimate that August batch will produce a similar drop in output to fall in July. However after BTC hardfork, LTC price may increase with BTC to compensate difficulty increasing. Here's a video in which I test mining altcoins vs litecoin directly and compare the results. Altcoins (at the moment) are nearly twice as profitable. https://youtu.be/e07eW6-rBPI |
|
|
|
Hello anyone has received shipped email from Bimain for the L3+ batch 20-30 July? Today is the last business day and it is supposed to ship already. I emailed them 2 days ago but their support is quite slow this time. I thought maybe they acrually shipped but has not marked the order as shipped, but if you guys have any information, please share it to me. Thank you so much.
Yes, we had multiple batches from the July 15th and July 20-31 batches. Our first July 20-31 batch arrived last week and we just received shipping details this morning for our last July 20-31 batch. Our recorded date of purchase shown on the Bitmain order was May 15th. |
|
|
|
Hello, as the title, anyone has received shipped email from Bimain? Today is the last business day and it is supposed to ship already. I emailed them 2 days ago but their support is quite slow this time. I thought maybe thy acrually shipped but has not marked the order as shipped, but if you guys have any information, please share it to me. Thank you so much.
Yes, we had multiple batches from the July 15th and July 20-31 batches. Our first July 20-31 batch arrived last week and we just received shipping details this morning for our last July 20-31 batch. Our recorded date of purchase shown on the Bitmain order was May 15th. |
|
|
|
ok so i have a new 125 amp electrical service. i have 4 open spots. how many ant miners can you run off something like this? do i put in 20 amp breakers and run one line to each miner,
What voltage are you running? At 120v, you can do up to ~3 AntMiner L3+ per 20amp circuit. At 220v, you can do up to ~5 per 20amp circuit. |
|
|
|
Great review! I just finished a similar review/setup guide that is more focused on the configuration aspects. Keep up the good work! |
|
|
|
Anyone thinking about buying from 3rd batch should just give up , by the time they come online it wont be worth it unless they reduce the d3 price , I think its good the a5 is so expensive, means less are sold and the ones that are wont sell their mined coins for peanuts. We cant rule out another x11 monster from baikal or pinidea until then too and the ibelink s will have their upgrade kits by then too..
LMAO!!!! Yeah....just forget it......HAHAHAHA!! Nice try. Heh, I love these people - they're at every launch of every ASIC warning of the same thing. They'll be saying the same thing about batches 10, 11, 12 next year. Get in or get left behind. |
|
|
|
I misspoke, it's also dependent on the efficiency of your power supply. From that, you can get pretty close to what a Killawatt can tell you.
Per Bitmain's website: 800W +10% (at the wall, with Bitmain's APW3 PSU, 93% efficiency, 25°C ambient temperature)
It's always a better idea to run your miners with a PSU on 240v rather than 120v.
Is there any benefit running them on 240V vs 120V? I ordered Bitmain's APW3++ PSUs. Yes, the L3+ on an APW3++ will only draw 750W when using 220+v as apposed to 800W when using 110-120v. I have a YouTube review that is a work in progress (not publicly listed) that shows this difference here: https://youtu.be/CwYNvIz6VZk |
|
|
|
They stated 50 max order on their site . . but for orders larger than that to contact them so who knows what happens / limit / possible discount at that quantity O_O
Interesting. I was able to do 100 from the first offering without any limits. They are definitely not offering any discounts - even for purchases of 100 units right now. The demand is simply too high. Also, I suspect that this batch was simply the leftovers from batch1 that didn't pay. This happens all the time - people add to cart and checkout, but fail to pay and then Bitmain offers them up again on the market. I'm guessing they had 1000-2000 units and a few hundred fell through, hence the same shipping date and price. Thanks for the input, interesting idea and it makes sense to me O_O Where are you located / on an order that size do you get slammed with import duties? Yes, import duties suck. We're in the Midwest (US). What does Bitmain report the value as normally? France is really bad about holding stuff to figure the value. I had a Pinida DR3 I bought used from the US, UPS kept contacting me and aggressively asking the value. Saying that customs was holding it. After a months investigation, turns out it was all a lie, most likely a UPS employee stole it, customs never held it. They were trying to get me to declare a low value on the items. Nothing but lies and misleading from UPS. I'm suing them after we finish speaking to UPS US. What's worse for them, is I studied Administration and logistics and I have a drop shipping business. I won't use them ever again, in my business or if I go back to import/export. UPS tried to screw me to save 1700 euros and have no idea how much it cost them in the long run. If you read this UPS, I'll only forgive you if you get me 2 Bitmain Antminer D3 lol. Bitmain has always posted the same price on the customs forms as shown on the website (in USD). |
|
|
|
They stated 50 max order on their site . . but for orders larger than that to contact them so who knows what happens / limit / possible discount at that quantity O_O
Interesting. I was able to do 100 from the first offering without any limits. They are definitely not offering any discounts - even for purchases of 100 units right now. The demand is simply too high. Also, I suspect that this batch was simply the leftovers from batch1 that didn't pay. This happens all the time - people add to cart and checkout, but fail to pay and then Bitmain offers them up again on the market. I'm guessing they had 1000-2000 units and a few hundred fell through, hence the same shipping date and price. Thanks for the input, interesting idea and it makes sense to me O_O Where are you located / on an order that size do you get slammed with import duties? Yes, import duties suck. We're in the Midwest (US). |
|
|
|
|
Show Posts
