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261  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can we overcome our gambling addiction! on: January 17, 2020, 12:42:21 PM
it all depends on the level of addiction. Are they too bad? maybe it's true that they have to go to a therapist because it has entered their subconscious mind and has to change mindset to stop gambling. and this is the most important thing, find out what triggers made him gamble? and try to overcome it without gambling.

That is the thing.

After knowing what triggers them to gamble, it will always be the same after that, they still needed someone to be there with them. They should be able to have an alternative way to kill time and gambling should be out of those choices. The time that he feels alone, that time that he feels free and can do anything even in a slight time, their mind will go back to gambling again.

is it possible for someone to become aware of addiction after experiencing something very bitter like something bad happened because of his doing? he should be able to realize himself because the true desire to recover from addiction is in us. but of course the guidance is necessary, but all back to him whether he has a very strong intention to change.
262  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][ICO] ⭐️⭐️⭐️ROMAD - NEXT GENERATION ANTI-VIRUS! WORKING PRODUCT!⭐️⭐️⭐️ on: January 17, 2020, 10:26:24 AM
benar sangat , lebih baik berjalan bersamaan antara market dan perkembangan, bukan hanya fokus ke perkembangan tapi saya masih yakin juga suatu saat akan ada market faktor utama produk sudah ada, rugi jika market tidak ada
Rugi bagaimana gan maksudnya? market belum ada berarti tidak ada transaksi yang membuat valuasi dari token Romad bertambah ataupun berkurang dong, kok bisa rugi?
Mungkin yg dia maksud rugi waktu gan harus menunggu ROMAD masuk ke exchange ya bisa jadi karena investor juga mungkin pengen jual buat ambil profit dan invest lagi di proyek lainnya
iya jelas rugi dong kalau tidak ada market, gimana mau dijadiin duit kalau tidak bisa menjual tokennya. setidaknya kalau produk sudah jadi terus token tersebut bisa dipake buat beli produknya itu masih mending.
kalau masalah rugi waktu, sebenarnya tidak harus di tunggu juga sih, mending mengerjakan hal lain karena nanti juga kalau memang udah waktunya ya listing juga di market.
263  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: ✅[ANN] Tachyon Protocol - Protokol internet terdesentralisasi | 50 Juta Pengguna on: January 17, 2020, 09:12:55 AM
ane sih udah langsung lihat ke market bithumb global gan tidak ada bot di sana berarti bisa di katakan real , situs CMC yang ane kasih cuman membuktikan bahwa IPX pump hingga 66 % pada hari ini
Ya benar memang Real itu volume IPX di Bithumb, kalau bot jarak antara buy order dengan sell order nya pasti jauh, di Bithumb ane lihat tidak seperti itu. Dan untuk harga IPX hari ini terjadi lonjakan harga yang luar biasa, sudah lebih 100% di CMC ane lihat.
kalau bot itu bukan jarak antara buy sama sell order saja sih, paling keliatan itu marketnya aktif terus buy secara beruntun dengan jumlah yang sama atau terkadang antara real volume atau bukan itu terkadang ada yang jual dalam jumlah banyak terus langsung di beli lagi, ini pengalaman selama ini saya trading sih sering nemu gituan. tapi emang sejauh ini semua normal real. ambil momen aja sih kalau mau trade enak mumpung masih baru dan tentunya belum membuat harga tertinggi jadi masih bisa naik cukup tinggi.
264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can we overcome our gambling addiction! on: January 16, 2020, 02:26:37 PM
professional psychologists might be able to help because in my opinion those who are addicted to it are very badly like they can't control their mentality
so they really really need to fix their maindset fan back to normal

There are a lot of ways to help someone addicted to gambling though it is not easy.

It is said that the first thing we should consider in helping someone addicted to gambling is by being there at all times. I heard that when an addict is isolated somewhere, the tendency of their mind is to get back to the thing they are addicted to so we need to be always there to entertain them, to increase the time that you are together.

it all depends on the level of addiction. Are they too bad? maybe it's true that they have to go to a therapist because it has entered their subconscious mind and has to change mindset to stop gambling. and this is the most important thing, find out what triggers made him gamble? and try to overcome it without gambling.
265  Economy / Speculation / Re: Anyone else think "long term" hodlers are idiots? on: January 16, 2020, 09:18:05 AM
Bought some at $200 and still hodling. I don´t feel like an idiot  Huh

damn its true? and after reaching a peak of $19,000 you don't sell it at all? indeed we will never know with the highest price that will be achieved by bitcoin, maybe you have a target to sell if it touches $50,000 or $100,000 right?
266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: January 16, 2020, 06:57:09 AM
A very dramatic win for Manchester United with Wolves because the goal was created in the second half and it made Manchester United fans happy for his victory.
Many bets win because most bets are mostly from Man. United so this is a good and lucky win for the winners.

the victory that looks difficult even though they play at home, can we imagine when their next match against Liverpool? Will it be easy money to take Liverpool?
maybe even fans of Man Utd also doubt that they will win in Liverpool's current situation.
267  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: ✅[ANN] Tachyon Protocol - Protokol internet terdesentralisasi | 50 Juta Pengguna on: January 16, 2020, 05:49:55 AM
Ya karena crypto sekarang lagi pada naik harga nya jadi ya wajar token IPX ikut naik juga, yang jadi pertanyaan volume di bithumb tinggi itu real atau tidak?
gk tau deh gan itu fake atau enggak soalnya gk beda jauh order buy ama sellnya biasanya klo fake itu selisihnya jauh dari buy dan sell tpi ini gk terus buy ordernya juga lumayan banyak di bithub
Dulu ada proyek yg list dibithumb pas awal2 volumenya ga maen2 sampe jutaan dollar, cuman ya anehnya volume sebesar itu malah ngga ngangkat harga token sama sekali. Mungkin IPX juga sama kaya proyek2 sebelumnya yg dibithumb.
yup betul, kalau diliat dari order jual beli nya itu banyak kok seimbang dilihat dari bithumb dan bithumb global sama sama seimbang. volume hariannya lumayan tidak terlalu besar dan masih wajar juga, cuma belum keliatan di cmc sirkulasi supply skrg berapa ya? tidak bisa di sama ratakan juga sih sama proyek2 sblmnya, kalau emang proyek ini lebih berkembang ya harusnya bisa ningkatin hargannya. tapi ada kemungkinan yang disebutin agan benar karena berdasarkan saya yang baca tentang fiktif volume disini bithumb termasuk salah satunya.
268  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: January 16, 2020, 04:05:31 AM
Seriously, I didn't even know who the new Barcelona coach was before. I mean that I have never read news about him. Recently I tried to find out his background and which club he had coached. It turns out that in terms of achievement he is still below Valverde. Maybe his game philosophy fits into the culture of Barcelona
Barca like just want to save their faces at this time.

 Aside from the guarantee that Setien is a Cruyffist, nothing can be expected from a Setien.  Seeing how, none of the Barca coaches who smelled good among fans after the Pep era, apart from the trophy they offered, and how selfish Barca officials, Setien also did not need to expect much he could last long at Camp Nou.

many people are shocked by this change, even more shocked because not many people know of his successor. but he got a contract for 2 years, we'll see if there will be a change in the rest of La Liga match. if at least Setien can bring Barcelona champions, he will last longer, but if not I think you're right, he won't last long at camp nou. Is it possible that Pep is back to Barcelona if Pep fails this season to bring Man City as Champion?
269  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][BOUNTY][[BazToken][BAZ][BAZOOKA - Platform Investasi Terdesentralisasi] on: January 15, 2020, 02:23:09 PM
Jumlah yang tertera member di Telegram itu belum semua rill akun, banyak juga bot, jadi kalaupun mereka akan membuat voting justru bakal sulit tercapai. Ane baca di channel Telegram banyak member disana menginginkan BAZ dilisting di Bittrex, tapi ane rasa sedikit sulit jika tim tidak mampu membayar biaya yang ditetapkan oleh pihak Bittrex.
emang nya misal nya melalaui sistem voting dan BazToken menang di bitrex ada biaya lagi yang di minta oleh pihak bitrex ya om ?
saya cuman sekedar analisa cukup berat BazToken bisa menang di bitrex karena persaingan di sana cukup ketat apalagi melalui sistem vote
kalau yang saya baca dari bittrex, setiap koin yang listing tidak dipungut biaya, karena katanya mereka akan membantu projek yang benar benar bagus untuk listing disana.
tapi kita tidak tahu juga, pasti selalu ada permainan uang dan hari gini gratisan itu agak sulit juga. tapi memang sistem votenya akan sulit bersaing dengan proyek2 yang lebih besar dan pasti yang banyak investornya.
270  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Match of This Week : Liverpool vs. Man. Utd on: January 15, 2020, 10:09:52 AM
After Man. Utd lost to Arsenal I doubt they'll get any points from Liverpool. Upgrade also mentioned that Man. Utd have been inconsistent which is true but even if they're at their best performance I still expect Liverpool get this one. There's a small chance for them to lose knowing Liverpool's trend of not conceding goals still continues the worst result here would be a draw.

there is still hope because Man is the only team that can draw against Liverpool. they might be confident with that and indeed the worst results will be a draw.
100% goes to Liverpool, Liverpool doesn't even get odds 2x.
271  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: January 15, 2020, 08:38:46 AM
Valverde was bullied out of barcelona, perhaps because he doesnt talk much.
His made poor decisions like any other coach, but he has done a fantastic job.
Bullied you say, how was he, he was hired by his employees and they can terminate his appointment as long as all the agreements are met. If he talks much or not, it doesn't affect his job, as long as he's doing his job well, he could be even dumb and Barcelona would not care.

Valverde did not do a fantastic job imo, it is not even about his decision making, he just wasn't the perfect coach for this team, he didn't have their philosophy, Barcelona needed to rediscover themselves and that's why valverde was relieved of his duty as coach.

its true, Valverde did not do a fantastic therefore he is the first coach fired by Barcelona in 17 years. He was not bad statistically when he coached Barcelona but he did a lot of failures in important matches, such as the biggest 4-0 defeat by Liverpool, then failed to win the Copa del rey and lastly the peak so he was fired is failed in the Spanish Super Cup.
272  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 📢[ANN]🌟 Arc Iris Hydrogen - Green Coin for Profitable Bitcoin Mining Globa on: January 15, 2020, 06:31:58 AM
Kalau 1 orang dapat 1 ACI berarti 0.1$ cuma 1000idr, apa tidak terlalu kecil gan soalnya mereka ngadain airdrop aja untuk satu referal bisa dapat 200 ACI, memang coinkeeper masih exchange kecil tapi reward 0.1$ untuk komunitas menurut saya kurang etis karena terlalu sedikit dibandingkan campaign mereka yang lain.

Kecil banget gan hadiah yang didapat ? Memang sih task nya mudah banget, hanya vote saja di Coinkeeper, kalah sama hadiah program airdop.

nah itu yang saya maksud, tasknya segampang itu tapi masa iya 1 org dapat $50, trus saya lihat di atas airdrop 500 ACI ($50) untuk 20,000 peserta pertama, kemudian saya lihat juga harga 1 ACI skrg $0.1 sblmnya saya lihat di atas $0.025. tapi setelah saya simpulkan dari total supply nya cukup banyak 10m token, ada kemungkinan memang setiap airdrop 1 org 500 ACI kayanya, dan itu rate juga blm pasti segitu di market, bisa saja 500 ACI itu harganya nanti dibawah $50.
273  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN](ICO) Orionix - Comission Free Games And Items Exchange on: January 15, 2020, 03:48:14 AM
Tim Orionix juga salah dalam hal penuduhan ini karena tidak menampilkan bukti screenshot dalam percakapan mereka dengan tim dari Shortex, karena tuduhan tanpa bukti ya tidak akan valid.
mungkin bukan salah gan tapi kurang akurat saja kalau menuduh tanpa bukti toh buktinya masih saja ada yang melakukan IEO disana tentu proyek lain merasa gak percaya atas tuduhan yang dibuat oleh orionix
saya liat pada artikelnya juga gk ada semacam bukti foto2 percakapan dan lainnya serasa artikel itu isinya curhatan saja, memang banyak sih skrang ini yg masih melakukan IEO di shortex cuman yg saya tau rata2 IEO di sana gagal
memang kita hanya melihat dari sudut pandang tim Orionix mereka curhat apa yang mereka alami, tapi mereka udah berani menuduh scam tanpa bukti foto, dan mereka malah membuat thread di steemit saya lihat, kenapa tidak membuat thread di forum ini dan jika benar ada banyak IEO yang mengalami hal sama kenapa tidak suruh buktikan bareng dengan membuat thread di forum ini juga.
274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: January 14, 2020, 02:38:39 PM
Quique Setien appointed as a temporary manager as it seems xavi will be ready to accept the job in the summer.
fun fact that Quique Setien's real betis is the only team that can beat barcelona at the camp nou since 2018 , the score was 3-4.

i bet everybody have no idea who the f is he lol
his coaching history does not really impressive unless for that beating barcelona t the camp nou.
in data and facts Quique Setien has faced 7 times with Barcelona, 6 defeats with 1 victory, even though during Quiati Setien's trainer he has never won any titles.
there is a possibility he became a coach of Barcelona just because of 1 win at Camp Nou? I like seeing the same case in Takumi Minamino when he scored a goal against Liverpool, and finally, he became a Liverpool player.
that is why i say it is as a fun fact, not a serious appointment consideration.

he also former player of atletico madrid and racing santander played as a central midfielder , pretty productive with 95 goals out of 518 appearences.
i am sure he is not more than just a caretaker while waiting better option to come.

3 lost 4 draw 12 win this season with valverde as a coach.
what could setien gives in the rest of 19 league la liga matches?
he should not have worse stats or the coach switch seems useless.
the selection of coach is a bit strange in my opinion, XAVI was initially a warm conversation to be the next coach but he refused.
I don't care about statistics when he is a player, but I need to look at his coaching statistics. Quique Setien was even fired by a real betis and it would be impossible if this was only an alternative to getting better, because he was given a contract until 2022.
275  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN](ICO) Orionix - Comission Free Games And Items Exchange on: January 14, 2020, 08:57:22 AM
kalau yang saya baca jika saya tidak salah, setelah shortex menerima pembayaran, komunikasi dengan tim orionix jadi kurang responsif jadi tim curiga terus memilih mundur, kemudian mereka mencoba mencari jawaban dari proyek2 sebelumnya yang sudah kerja sama dengan shortex dan hasilnya banyak proyek tidak mendapatkan kepuasan setelah kerja sama dengan shortex. mungkin itu langkah yang tepat yang dilakukan Orionix daripada nanti kedepannya malah menghancurkan proyek mereka.
Kita harus ngeliat permasalahan dari dua sudut pandang yang berbeda, shortex masih belum membuat pernyataan untuk membalas tuduhan oleh Orionix dan banyak proyek lain juga lancar2 aja dari proses IEO sampai listing disana.
betul kalau ada masalah memang harus lihat dari dua sudut, tapi coba agan cari tau tentang shortex, minim informasi akun di btt aja jarang aktif terus threadnya sepi. jadi gimana mau liat reputasinya. akunnya newbie baru 17 post dan semua yang dia bicarakan tentang IEO, ada kemungkinan benar apa yang dikatakan Orionix mereka adalah project eater.
276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: January 14, 2020, 07:17:57 AM
Quique Setien appointed as a temporary manager as it seems xavi will be ready to accept the job in the summer.
fun fact that Quique Setien's real betis is the only team that can beat barcelona at the camp nou since 2018 , the score was 3-4.

i bet everybody have no idea who the f is he lol
his coaching history does not really impressive unless for that beating barcelona t the camp nou.
in data and facts Quique Setien has faced 7 times with Barcelona, 6 defeats with 1 victory, even though during Quiati Setien's trainer he has never won any titles.
there is a possibility he became a coach of Barcelona just because of 1 win at Camp Nou? I like seeing the same case in Takumi Minamino when he scored a goal against Liverpool, and finally, he became a Liverpool player.
277  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN](ICO) Orionix - Comission Free Games And Items Exchange on: January 14, 2020, 05:49:42 AM
Ane sendiri kurang paham juga apa yang membuat Orionix membatalkan rencana mereka untuk mengadakan IEO di Shortex bahkan mengatakan Shortex adalah scammer, agan bisa lihat penjelasan Orionix tentang hal tersebut disini ; https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@orionix/shortex-the-project-eaters
Ntah awalnya gimana tapi emang sebelumnya pernah ada kasus diexchange shortex sebelum Orionix ini, kaya banyak proyek yg gagal list disana entah itu dari pihak exchangenya atau pihak tim proyeknya
kalau yang saya baca jika saya tidak salah, setelah shortex menerima pembayaran, komunikasi dengan tim orionix jadi kurang responsif jadi tim curiga terus memilih mundur, kemudian mereka mencoba mencari jawaban dari proyek2 sebelumnya yang sudah kerja sama dengan shortex dan hasilnya banyak proyek tidak mendapatkan kepuasan setelah kerja sama dengan shortex. mungkin itu langkah yang tepat yang dilakukan Orionix daripada nanti kedepannya malah menghancurkan proyek mereka.
278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: January 14, 2020, 04:58:58 AM
Some interesting games at the weekend which is still some time away Cheesy

Liverpool vs Man Utd is a specifically interesting game. Can Ole stop the unbeatable Red’s?
I'm not really sure about this. Because Liverpool will play on their own turf. They have a record 100% victory in the league this season while playing at Anfield. Although so far only MU is the only team capable of holding their draw. However, to beat Liverpool at Anfield was very little chance.

Can United give another surprise on EPL this season by getting a win against Liverpool? Frankly speaking, I doubt it but on other side I hope that United can give a surprise so the league will be more interesting to follow as it is getting close to its end.

its really difficult, even the statistics of the meeting at Anfield when Liverpool against Man Utd, Liverpool always wins the game. especially Liverpool this season is amazing, although man can hold a draw before, in my opinion it's a bit of luck. but at Anfield they will be destroyed. the worst outcome for Liverpool might be to keep drawing again, but not to beat Liverpool at home.
279  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: January 13, 2020, 02:24:27 PM
Wow, Liverpool has done enough thing to become the Champion of English Premier League after a long time, Only miracle thing could be the barrier of this happening, We may congratulate them as a Champion of the current season, It's a really long time and finally, The Liverpool fans will get a chance to see their team is going to be the champion, Kloop has done everything for getting this reward, but What about the Arsenal team, It could be a difficult thing for the Gunner to get finished within top 4 again this season, Arteta is doing well in comparison to recent time, so let's see what will happen at the end of this season.

Surely Liverpool fans have said their victory earlier because they are confident of the trophy this season for Liverpool.
Klopp has proven it unbeaten this season and this only reaps praise for him for his success in bringing his club to the championship in the EPL even though it is still far too.
Liverpool's main target for this season is UCL and EPL, hopefully Klopp will bring the trophy to perfection.

As they have gained a huge point difference from the second place I think that they are going to be able to focus on UCL and be more efficient.
Klopp can do rotation in the team even in the most difficult games of the EPL and use his most valuable players in UCL games.
This season they can make it and won both trophies.

man city still has a chance even though at this time it looks a huge point difference, I'm just worried like last season that LFC should be able to champion but at the end they made a lot of mistakes. at least if they continue to win the next 10 matches, they will lock a title. because if experience 5x defeats maybe the city can catch up with a note they always win. but it seems that I'm sure Liverpool can't possibly lose 5 times in a row on this extraordinary performance.
280  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 📢[ANN]🌟 Arc Iris Hydrogen - Green Coin for Profitable Bitcoin Mining Globa on: January 13, 2020, 01:06:24 PM
tidak ada salahnya mencoba gan, siapa tahu juga agan bisa dapet walaupun pemenangnya diacak ya untung-untungan gan, toh juga hal ini sebagai dukungan untuk Arc Iris ke depan
itu event yang voting dpt 500 ACI kan maksimal 500 orang, maksudnya adalah 1 orang dapat 1 ACI atau 1 orang dapat 500 ACI? https://t.me/arciris_official/78
harga 1 ACI = $0.1 kalau 500 orang dapat masing2 500 ACI berarti 1 org dapat $50 x 500 udah $25000. sepertinya 1 orang dapat 1 ACI sih, kalau 1 org dapat 500 ACI terlalu besar juga dana yang dikeluarkan buat vote.
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