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261  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Using MtGox as a wallet? on: January 09, 2012, 07:47:08 PM
Don't use any wallet service. Any can be hacked, shut down, fractional reserved, or just robbed by their owners (doubtful of the last for mtgox, but they do have employees they have to trust).

Mtgox, is an exchange, not a wallet service. Put coins in there to sell and take them out when done. No risk of them failing.
262  Economy / Auctions / Advertising slot Printcoins.com on: January 09, 2012, 07:22:32 PM
This is for advertising on printcoins.com. The two top bids on this auction will each show up 50% of the views on the site for 6 months. This will be done using a server side random function create an image wrapped in an href tag. You can specify also the alt tag as well to help with SEO.

The image will be 728x90 and be placed at the bottom of the page. You can host the image (or I can). You can also email me whenever you want to change the link, and I can update it in 2 business days. Changing it more than once a month would not be appreciated though.

The image will not be flash, and should not be offensive (PM me to ask. I am cool with most things, but would rather not have porn on my site), and should not be annoying (for example, an animated gif that causes seizures). The image of the ad should be representative of what it is linking to (don't surprise users with something unexpected).

Post your bids in this thread. Bids are in USD but are to be paid in bitcoins.  Bidding starts at 1USD and is made in increments of at least 1USD. Both bidders only need to pay the second highest bid amount. So if person A bids 10, and person B bids 15, they both only pay $10.

If any valid bids occur less than 60 minutes before the auction end time, then the auction will be extended by 60 minutes. If any valid bids occur less than 60 minutes before the new end time, then the auction will be extended again, etc. The time will continue extending until bids stop coming in.

The auction ends on January 21 2012 16:00 GMT+0000

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Stats:

Over the last 30 days, here are the stats from google analytics:

627 Unique visitors
812 Visits
2,444 Pageviews
3.01 Pages/Visit
00:03:07 Avg. Time on Site
49.14% Bounce Rate
71.55% % New Visits

12.56%Search Traffic
102 Visits
-------20% of the results come from google searches for the term "bitcoin"


26.23%Referral Traffic
213 Visits

61.21%Direct Traffic
497 Visits

These are the bills that have sold on the site (so, people visiting the site have bitcoins to spend):
http://printcoins.com/sent_bills
263  Economy / Auctions / Re: $100 Apple Giftcard on: January 09, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
nudge.
264  Other / Off-topic / Re: Atlas Recognizer -- Greasemonkey-, Chrome-compatible script on: January 09, 2012, 05:42:14 PM
Is there a post or thread somewhere that explains who this dude is and why he is important enough to have a GM script devoted to him?
265  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: TradeHill - suspension of US wire deposits / withdrawals on: January 09, 2012, 12:43:38 AM
There seems to be an unspoken assumption on this thread that banks won't be failing left and right themselves and therefore struggling to retain customer confidence.

Who is to say the reverse won't happen.  A collapse in the fiat currency banking system that precipitates a flight of wealth into the relative safety and stability of the bitcoin network?

That is a possibility as well. It isn't really related to banks shutting down bitcoin transfers though. This is just a fun upside possibility.

Bitcoin, gold, property, food, oil will all shoot up when wealth flees fiat. That is the way it goes.
266  Economy / Goods / Re: I am selling BTC and want to buy some Amazon Gift Cards (need $70) on: January 07, 2012, 06:17:51 PM
Bitcoins received, gift code sent

thanks!

Gift code received and worked fine. Thanks tsvekric!
267  Economy / Goods / Re: I am selling BTC and want to buy some Amazon Gift Cards (need $70) on: January 06, 2012, 09:02:19 PM
I am looking to buy some Amazon Gift Cards (just need the codes).

I need about $70 to make a purchase.

Let me know what you are willing to take in BTC for the amazon amount.


10 bits! Grin


just go to http://www.spendbitcoins.com/

and then leave a review at  Spend Bitcoins @ thebitcoinreview.com

I'll give you 8.5 BTC for $70 worth of Amazon GC

At the current price, 9.83 BTC for a $70 Amazon code

I will go for that. I'll talk to you via PM.

(Consider this sold)
268  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Increases in bitcoin prices are bad for merchants on: January 06, 2012, 08:58:02 PM
Can you really envision a world where everyone meaning 100% of participants think something will only go up in value? I sure can't.. And that's why it's a fallacy.

I think most people believe oil will just continue to go up in value. The same could be said for uranium and other non-renewable resources that are consumed (gold and silver doesn't count).

Gold, silver, bitcoins, etc aren't really consumed, so even though they follow the same extraction curve as oil, their price floats based upon the whims of speculators.

269  Economy / Goods / Re: I am selling BTC and want to buy some Amazon Gift Cards (need $70) on: January 06, 2012, 07:05:54 PM
btcbuy.info

You have a markup. Most people do a mark-down for amazon cards paid in BTC.
270  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Increases in bitcoin prices are bad for merchants on: January 06, 2012, 04:06:28 PM
I thought it was proven the last time the value increased dramatically that the dreaded deflationary spiral is a fallacy and people actually spent more?  Roll Eyes

I don't think that it proved a fallacy. A deflationary spiral only is a problem when everyone believes it can only go up in value. I think there are enough people that think the current price of bitcoins and the rate of increase is nuts, and just want to dump what they have.
271  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: TradeHill - suspension of US wire deposits / withdrawals on: January 06, 2012, 04:02:02 PM
I think the banks are the biggest danger to Bitcoin in the near future. If they all started to decide that they don't want anything to do with bitcoins, the exchanges would be totally frozen out.

It's hard for me to believe that all financial institutions would abandon service of Bitcoin related enterprises absent some legislative action (whereupon I have no doubt that they would do so in a heartbeat.)  It's a really interesting question in my mind about what would happen with the value of BTC in that scenario.  I could see it going several different ways.  Among them:

If demand is there it could get fairly pent up and explosive.  After all, banks (mostly) don't want anything to do with drugs which has contributed to them absurdly valuable.  Even though drugs are a physical commodity and thus cumbersome to supply, they are still plenty available and the demand ensures a thriving market.

On the other hand, I sense that a good bit of the demand is by day-trader types who have no real interest in holding BTC and see no value in doing so other than to flip them.  That demand would evaporate without convenient exchanges which could depress the value of BTC considerable.



Tonight on the news "Underground currency bitcoin used for Drugs &... [name some other hot button issues]. Citi and Chase identified as facilitating ... bla bla bla"

Exchanges shut out quickly from all major banking outlets. No law needed. Just bad press. Find a rouge bank that will be willing to work with the exchange, and that bank will have some serious issues getting wire transfers from established banks.

Much of the value of bitcoin would vanish the day of, and traders scramble to get their money out of the exchanges (converting btc to usd and wiring money). New modes of exchange would need to be found (otc and in person). In essence, bitcoin would lose the big time speculators, and exchanges would be reduced to mini transactions, or some other less bank oriented system.

The irony is that if the press was really out there and everyone suddenly had knowledge of bitcoin, more people would want it.

But it doesn't need to go to frontline news to have banks shut exchanges down. If they get a whiff of bad press, it would happen.

I wonder what happened to the value of gold when it was deemed illegal to own. I think that might be a good historical lesson to look at in trying to predict the future of bitcoin (though gold and bitcoin are quite different).
272  Economy / Goods / Re: I am selling BTC and want to buy some Amazon Gift Cards (need $70) on: January 06, 2012, 03:21:41 PM
I am looking to buy some Amazon Gift Cards (just need the codes).

I need about $70 to make a purchase.

Let me know what you are willing to take in BTC for the amazon amount.


10 bits! Grin


just go to http://www.spendbitcoins.com/

and then leave a review at  Spend Bitcoins @ thebitcoinreview.com

I'll give you 8.5 BTC for $70 worth of Amazon GC
273  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] Shop on Amazon.com with bitcoins ~$90 avail. (20% discount) on: January 06, 2012, 03:18:51 PM
shameless bump... still available

I am buying the whole thing. Just sent you a message.

got it. It's a deal.

Square dealer. $90.65 was in the account.
274  Economy / Goods / I am selling BTC and want to buy some Amazon Gift Cards (need $70) on: January 06, 2012, 12:01:08 AM
I am looking to buy some Amazon Gift Cards (just need the codes).

I need about $70 to make a purchase.

Let me know what you are willing to take in BTC for the amazon amount.
275  Economy / Goods / Re: WTS $24 Worth of Amazon Codes on: January 05, 2012, 11:55:20 PM
Sold?
276  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: TradeHill - suspension of US wire deposits / withdrawals on: January 05, 2012, 10:09:06 PM
I think the banks are the biggest danger to Bitcoin in the near future. If they all started to decide that they don't want anything to do with bitcoins, the exchanges would be totally frozen out.
277  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] Shop on Amazon.com with bitcoins ~$90 avail. (20% discount) on: January 05, 2012, 09:56:01 PM
shameless bump... still available

I am buying the whole thing. Just sent you a message.
278  Economy / Goods / Re: (pics) Physical Bitcoin Bills - For Real World Transactions - Printcoins.com on: January 05, 2012, 05:55:01 PM
Update: 0.5 BTC denomination bills now available.

If this price rally keeps up I might even get to roll out my 0.25 bills.

Here is a complete list of all intended colors (going down to 0.01 BTC - which would require bitcoins to be around $100 a piece to make sense):

http://printcoins.com/colors
279  Economy / Goods / Re: (pics) Physical Bitcoin Bills - For Real World Transactions - Printcoins.com on: January 05, 2012, 01:19:32 AM
That's really cool! I suppose as you get more confident with what you're doing the markup fee will drop, or disappear altogether. Also, as demand increases, including for larger amounts, there will be bulk pricing for larger notes. But as it's not too likely that somebody is going to order 100 50 BTC notes right now, it's not really that important. I'm glad you have bulk pricing for the 1 BTC notes. It's still a little too high for me right now. But if you can get your prices down to, say, 106 BTC for 100 1 BTC notes, I'd throw down for that.

You're creating a very important product and I'm glad you're putting a lot of thought into it. This can be something that is truly badass and puts Bitcoin on the map for a much larger segment of society.

Why would markup disappear completely? 

As far as 0.06 BTC markup.  You are aware there is no central bank which can subsidize printing costs.  Things like material, labor, custom holograms, etc do time take and resources.   Your expectations may be a little unrealistic.

Well, obviously there is going to be markup. But 3 BTC markup on a 50 BTC note is too steep for me. So is 17 BTC on 100 1 BTC notes.

I'm sure, eventually, there will be competition in the Bit bill market, driving prices down.

I am just giving room for a competitor to step in and eat my lunch. If I charged too little, than what would be the incentive for anyone else to break into the market.
280  Economy / Goods / Re: (pics) Physical Bitcoin Bills - For Real World Transactions - Printcoins.com on: January 05, 2012, 01:06:49 AM
That's really cool! I suppose as you get more confident with what you're doing the markup fee will drop, or disappear altogether. Also, as demand increases, including for larger amounts, there will be bulk pricing for larger notes. But as it's not too likely that somebody is going to order 100 50 BTC notes right now, it's not really that important. I'm glad you have bulk pricing for the 1 BTC notes. It's still a little too high for me right now. But if you can get your prices down to, say, 106 BTC for 100 1 BTC notes, I'd throw down for that.

You're creating a very important product and I'm glad you're putting a lot of thought into it. This can be something that is truly badass and puts Bitcoin on the map for a much larger segment of society.

Why would markup disappear completely?  

As far as 0.06 BTC markup.  You are aware there is no central bank which can subsidize printing costs.  Things like material, labor, custom holograms, etc do time take and resources.   Your expectations may be a little unrealistic.

D&T -  Thank you, you are now my official spokesperson for all pricing issues.

Also, anyone is welcome to undercut me if I charge too much. You could probably charge much less and still make a profit if you have access to cheap labor.
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