LOL +1.
@newdude:
Just pay him back and settle this whole business. No use wasting time over this.

No one is arguing against you, we all agree that any money owed should be returned. If not then that is a scam.

What do you mean still running? We aren't gonna lock the thread, that would be dumb. There may be people out there with information to provide, and it leaves a channel of communication open between him and his customers, and has all the information people need to know right here. He's already said he's going to repay, and if he really does have more coming in it would be kinda dumb to lose out on all that profit for a few hundred bucks.

As for him and Amazon, that's between him and Amazon. This is just a forum, we aren't the cops.

I never called you a scammer. I just think you could have handled this better.

I'll call him a scammer.

If you take someone's money and don't deliver the product and don't give a refund you are a damn scammer and a thief.

Pure and simple.  Getting your feelings hurt is not sufficient reason to keep someone else's money you haven't earned.  Period.  I don't care if his customer cursed him out to his face and make jokes about his children.  If you take someone else's money and intentionally neither return the money nor deliver what is promised you are a thief and a scammer.

This. He reminds me entirely of Matthew. I wouldn't give up on him, yet.

No offense, but just STFU. We're just trying to get you your money back. I'll only consider what you have to say once it's clear that that won't happen.

Would you want anything to do with these forums after what people have said and done? He tried to bring a legitimate business and was chased away by a jealous competitor. I do hope he does payback what he owes.

Yes. There is money to be made here. I went through the same thing as newdude. My very first sale here was a stack of 5850's. I had no rep. I refused escrow. I refused paypal. Nobody believed in me. Tons of people called me scam. I didnt flip out and act like a nub. I stuck it out and here i am. Most new sellers here will be questioned. How you handle it is what matters. Newdude couldnt handle it. He cracked under pressure and made things worse for himself. Sure occulta started this but newdude is the only one responsible for how this turned out.

LOL why bring me in to this again?

Anyways, i must admit, i think occulta is over stepping his place and sticking his nose where it doesnt belong. Almost like he is trying to ruin newdudes rep. He sent me several PM's trying to convince me newdude was no good. I also noticed he was giving Eisenhower34 a hard time too saying he was copying him. Occulta seems like a very jealous person who does not like competition. Eisenhower34 was smart enough to keep a cool head and be diplomatic. Newdude doesnt have the people skills and blows up when pressed. But that doesnt mean he is scam. He just doesnt present himself very well. He has admitted he owes haploid and says he will take care of it. But i dont see that happening if people continue to bad mouth him. If he has no friends here and he cant do business cause of bad rep he will just disappear and poor haploid will get burned.

You should take 2 things from this thread.

1) newdude is a scammer
2) BTC Guy = newdude

You have absolutely zero reasoning skills. Just look at how you phrase your sentences and respond to things.

I never said you ran with $1000, otherwise find a quote. Just so I can be as transparent as possible so everyone else knows what's going on, you only gave me partial codes, so you still need to refund me exactly $568.25. Is that clear enough for you??

Now stop avoiding this question: Seriously man,why are you not giving me my refund or the codes you owe me? Why are you dragging this on for over a week now? Just give me the damn GC codes you owe me, or a refund. I don't want my money held up like this.

Your defense has made a pretty shitty case if you're admitting you owe money to someone and won't pay them.

You don't wish to rectify that?

Even i the codes are 100% legit if you take payment and don't deliver you are a scammer and deserve the scammer tag.

You admit he paid you.
You admit you haven't given him a code.
You admit you haven't given him a refund.

Proof of reasoning? *brings stale popcorn from 2 pages ago out again*

Here is the very first PM i got from this bozo......


I purchased 3 $100 gift codes from newdude and I am now worried about using them on my amazon account.  I have checked the balances and they are still working.  After occulta's warning I am afraid to use them.  If you have no fear would you be interested in buying them?  I would sell all 3 for 28 BTC, or will sell them 1 at a time for 11 BTC each to get some of my money back.  I originally paid $70 each.  I would like to get more but do not want to be labeled a scammer if it turns out newdude is a scammer so I am willing to sell at that discount.  If you are interested send me the BTC 11 or 28 to 1DsDb9xaRNe7G9wS5kQogv18y1bgYCQM3E and I will send you the gift codes.  If not I will just keep looking or explore opening a dummy amazon account to use them.

I am not trying to get him to send me anything. I was testing a theory and I got what I was looking for. The make believe PM he typed up should not be believed. newdude = BTC Guy. You have been warned.