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Hello,
As you may know, the initial 1,000 BTC limit of my deposit was quickly reached even even before starting the operation. I did not planned to increase the capacity of this risk-free deposit for a while. Nevertheless, given the great amount of investors that could not get in during the launch of this deposit, I have decided to increase the limit just a little bit for new small investors.
In order to let small investors participate in my deposit I have decided to remove the minimum limit of 10 btc and I will start accepting small deposits ranging from just 1 btc to a maximum of 50 btc for those of you that could not get in earlier but also that wanted to take advantage of the current 2% weekly interest rate of this risk-free deposit. I am going to offer this increased capacity for current investors as well, so those which right now have deposits under 50 btc will be able to deposit some additional coins until reaching this upper limit of 50 bitcoins. Depositors with larger amounts will be able to maintain or withdraw their current deposits at will.
The deadline for making new deposits will always be on Sundays at 17:00 UTC (i.e 6 PM BST, 7 PM CET, 1 PM PST or 10 AM PDT). As a rule of thumb, depositors should PM me 24 hours before that deadline only in case they wish to withdraw their funds from their deposit so I can pay out not only their weekly interests but also their principal on time. By default, I will assume that everybody is willing to maintain their deposits with me, so please PM if it is not the case.
As this weekend is the first one in which depositors are going to receive their earned interests, I will exceptionally accept withdrawal orders just a few hours before the deadline, but please take this into account for the coming weeks. You can notify me of your choice to withdraw your funds any time during the week, and even at the very moment of funding your deposit.
Interest will always be paid also on Sundays although the exact time will likely vary from one week to another. In fact this week, I will be watching the EURO Cup championship soccer final between Italy and my beloved Spanish Armada, so I will do my best paying out interests/withdrawals a little bit earlier this week.
Edit: Spain finally won the EURO Cup beating Italy 4-0.
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is the interest 10% or 8% ?
I am asking this, because you have mentioned 8% in the text, but the tittle says 10% for 30 days.
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I'm selling 125 BTC for USD at the market rate. I will accept Western Union, US wire transfers (not ACH transfers), or cash in the mail. You pay any transfer fees. I might accept other methods if the method is irreversible or you are very trustworthy. Smaller amounts (at least $20) are OK.
Hi theymos, do you accept USD MtGox vouchers? As you are a trusted guy, I will accept to pay you in advance the current weighted Avg price that appears at Mt.Gox right now $6.39218 * 125 = $799.0225 In order to avoid others to intercept the code for the voucher I will send you a GPG encrypted and signed message with the code. I will wait for you to verify that the code I have sent you is still valid and then I expect you to send the coins to one of my bitcoin addresses like the one in my signature. Do we have a deal? |
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You should also take into account that the interest rate I am offering is not compounding.
I will do the math for you:
- 1 Year Compounding interest => 1000*(1 + 0.02)^52=2800 btcs
- 1 Year Non-Compounding => 1000*(1+0.02*52) = 2040 btcs
In any case I am not willing to offer this 2% interest rate for such a long time for a risk-free deposit like this one.
I think it is much more realistic to expect a high interest like this one being offered just for a few weeks/months but not years, that's for sure.
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As a security observation, your deposit list includes two addresses that are identifiable. I assume that those two depositors asked for anonymity, I suggest an alternative is to use the end of the address rather than the start. I would propose this as a default standard - I'm using the last 16 characters of the address and do not publish any details for those that make that request.
Thank you Patrick, nice observation. In fact one of the anonymous depositors prefer to see the firstbits of his/her address instead of a nickname of the form AnonXY where X and Y are digits. She/He was fully aware that the firstbits of the address would represent a unique global mapping between the address and its shortened version. In my opinion using the last characters of the address is not much better than using the first ones, as both strings will be searchable in the blockchain once they are used. We can even use another hash (SHA-256 maybe?) of the withdrawal address and then using a reduced version of only some characters. The bottom line is that anonymous brand new generated addresses should not be tainted with any other identifiable addresses apart from other considerations such as using i2p or Tor. I will preserve the anonymity of any depositor that asks for it and I will use the 'nickname' of their preference. |
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Hello folks,
I want to thank all the investors in my deposit and all the people that has show interest in my operation.
I have just stopped accepting new deposits for next week (weekly term).
Right now I can tell you that this operation has been a total SUCCESS because of you. You have reached my limited deposit capacity originally established at 1000 BTCs. I'm sorry to say that not all investors were able to take advantage of my free-risk deposit.
For the people that hurry up and got lucky to be in, as you know first payments will be sent the next Sunday, July 1st.
Thank you all for your interest,
Victor Escudero.
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As you perhaps may have missed my PM,
Hello Victor,
Cordially re-read "my posts", so you may notice I have been borrowing a lot of BTC to grow my mining operations. I would interested as a borrower, not a lender.
Thank you
Sorry crosby, I mistakenly thought you were looking for loans instead of borrow bitcoins. Thank you for your feedback. By the way, for the rest of you guys, this is the last call to make deposits for the next week for a 2% weekly interest. I will stop accepting new deposits in less than 1.5 hours. |
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I have just updated the list of current deposits and the remain capability in the first post of this thread. |
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Hola, Para aquellos de vosotros que esteis interesados en invertir vuestros ahorros con un buen tipo de interés os informo que en estos momentos estoy ofreciendo un 1.5% de interés semanal garantizado para aquellos que decidan invertir en mi depósito. Aún estoy labrando una reputación en la comunidad de bitcoin y es por ello que ofrezco un tipo de interés tan alto para un depósito garantizado de estas características. Aprovéchenlo mientras puedan pues este interés no lo mantendré por mucho tiempo. Dejo aquí el enlace al hilo principal en inglés: http://bit.ly/MAWOEvAquellos de Vds, que estén interesados, envíenme un Mensaje Privado y yo les daré la dirección de bitcoin única en la que hacer sus depósitos. |
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The first weekly term will start in less than 16 hours. I will accept incoming deposits for the next week no later than 17:00 UTC (i.e 6 PM BST, 7 PM CET, 1 PM PST or 10 AM PDT). I have just updated the OP with the list of current deposits and the remaining availability. If you are interested, please hurry up as I will not accept deposits for this weeks beyond that limit. |
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Hey,
I would like to deposit 10 BTC with 2% interest paid out weekly to: 1Ft79A84BQSsfb6MkfHUzP5cCc2aKXKSnj
Could you please send me a deposit address? Thanks!
PM sent with private deposit address. Hereby I confirmed the reception of your 10 bitcoins. Funds are on their way (bitcoin transaction: 3ceeb830190467592c9666a52727681118da7fe88d655754b5741fd336974606) BTC300 sent as agreed by PM ~ Suerte! Otoh  Thank you Otoh, I confirm the reception of your funds. |
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Hi very interested but I have a few questions,
First question would be do you lend to pirate?
Second what are you using to back your guarantee?
Thank you:)
Hello Goat, I would back up this deposit with my own money. Yes, I do have some funds in PPT bonds but this should not be a problem for any of my depositors, because my exposition to pirate is so low that even if he defaults I will be able to pay you back all your coins kindly with my own money. As a large investor and long term bitcoin supporter I have my own reserves of bitcoins. Not only that, I have also made some investments in several bitcoin projects and GLBSE securities. You might want to check them with Nefario, DeadTerra, hashking, zefir, or Philj amongst other people in this community. I have made even small investments in your TYGRR.BOND-A and TYGRR.BOND-B bonds which right now I own in excess of 1200 and 3500 respectively. If you wish and the rest of my customers agree, I could even transfer these bonds to you as a guarantee to the deposits. Folks, do you want me to put some of my assets at GLBSE in escrow with Goat to back your deposits? |
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Thank you Patrick for listing me as a deposit taker. I was going to ask you to include my 2% weekly deposit in your list, when I saw you already did it. As always, you've been amazingly fast! |
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3. What is the minimum deposit?
4. What is the minimum term?
3. Minimum deposit will be 10 btc. 4. Minimum term will be just one only week. Nevertheless I hope the average deposit to be larger and longer. Please sign your initial offering with your GPG key too.  I have just signed my offering with my personal GPG key, the same one you will find in #bitcoin-otc. Thank you. |
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For potential depositors, Victor has more than 300BTC with me in GLBSE shares.
Thank you.
Thank you ciuciu. |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hello investors, I provide risk-free deposits guaranteed to payout at 1.5% weekly interest rate, no compounding. The deposits will be used for lending out to other borrowers, investing in short term opportunities and investing in other bitcoin projects. All my depositor's funds are 100% guaranteed and will not lose any funds due to any defaults. Why do I offer such a high interest for my 100% guaranteed deposit? I am interested in slowly building my reputation here as a bitcoin trader. My real name is Victor Escudero, I am a CAcert assurer and I have nothing to hide. Reputation and trust are of utmost importance in my day-to-day job as well as in my personal life. If you have any doubt about deposit your money with me, I encourage you to check my GnuPG signatures, see my #bitcoin-otc ratings, check my professional profile at LinkedIn, visit my personal website, Twitter account, Facebook account, bitcoinary profile or simply read my previous posts in the bitcointalk.org forum.The minimum term will be just one week, although you might choose to keep your deposit for much longer. The start of the weekly term will always start on Sundays at 17:00 UTC. Payment of earned interests will take place on Sundays as well although the exact time will likely vary from one week to another. In case you wanted to withdraw your funds later, please PM me at least 24 hours before the start of the next weekly term and I will pay you back not only the earned interests but also the principal from your deposit. The current 1.5% per week will be maintained until further notice.Thank you, Victor Escudero. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlAbEPsACgkQ8AwyXklxLE9ovgD/dbQeEc0Ies1rBmyY4Q/CIX+I P2kvNRmSqZAJc4oGGuEA/RVSnkl7FcszCck2AbDavyILNConKvol6jXq/4rhzTAw =Jl+f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Last updated: 2012-09-30 All the deposits have been returned back and interests paid out. Thank you to all of you that as investor has trusted me for letting me take care of your bitcoins. I have managed more than 3700 BTC (about 36,000 EUR or 47,000 USD aprox.) during all this time. Although this has been a challenging and a high demanding task, definitely it has been a very rewarding operation. Such a successful trading operation would had never been possible without all of you. Thanks. These are all the deposits I have managed during all this time: ID: Depositor: Deposit Amount: Weekly Interest Rate: First Deposit made: Withdrawal date:
ID_011* 1PkFr9gUxB 50 BTC 2% 2012/07/01 2012/07/22
ID_016* alexmat 50 BTC 2% 2012/07/01 2012/07/22
ID_018* PsychoticBoy 25 BTC 2% 2012/07/01 2012/07/22
ID_020* Maidak 5 BTC 2% 2012/07/06 2012/07/15
ID_023* swissmate 8 BTC 2% 2012/07/07 2012/07/22
ID_024* BadBitcoin 50 BTC 2% 2012/07/07 2012/07/29
ID_026* honest bob 15 BTC 2% 2012/07/07 2012/07/15
ID_035* Grim Death 7 BTC 2% 2012/07/13 2012/07/24
ID_036* vokain 50 BTC 2% 2012/07/13 2012/07/29
ID_022* isthisreallife 17.5 BTC 2% 2012/07/07 2012/08/05
ID_031* Chaang Noi (Goat) 50 BTC 2% 2012/07/13 2012/08/05
ID_032* Ocean6 20 BTC 2% 2012/07/13 2012/08/05
ID_006* IveBeenBit 75 BTC 2% 2012/06/24 2012/08/05
ID_057* drrussellshane 2.5 BTC 2% 2012/07/22 2012/08/05
ID_059* AndyRossy 20 BTC 2% 2012/07/27 2012/08/05
ID_015* 1QDnipe8Fr 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/01 2012/08/11
ID_054* BTC-tester 7 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/21 2012/08/12
ID_048* Tachikoma 40 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/15 2012/08/15
ID_019* Uncurlhalo 15 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/01 2012/08/19
ID_030* vandordeak 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/12 2012/08/19
ID_042* lazyxness 30 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/14 2012/08/19
ID_046* Papina 10 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/14 2012/08/19
ID_060* subject 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/28 2012/08/19
ID_065* Inedible 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/03 2012/08/19
ID_076* LoweryCBS 40 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/12 2012/08/19
ID_002* 1ZTg5 100 BTC 1.5% 2012/06/24 2012/08/26
ID_064* Willowbitcoin 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/02 2012/08/26
ID_083* damon1492 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/28 2012/08/31
ID_078* mik3 35 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/16 2012/09/02
ID_061* Russell616 4 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/28 2012/09/02
ID_001* 1sm1q 100 BTC 1.5% 2012/06/24 2012/09/09
ID_009* Otoh 304 BTC 1.5% 2012/06/24 2012/09/09
ID_029* david113 22 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/11 2012/09/09
ID_033* OneEyed 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/13 2012/09/09
ID_043* thirdlight 10 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/14 2012/09/09
ID_052* slider1978 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/18 2012/09/09
ID_070* phr33 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/09 2012/09/09
ID_077* Justin00 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/13 2012/09/09
ID_008* Mushoz 10 BTC 1.5% 2012/06/24 2012/09/16
ID_022* isthisreallife 17.5 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/07 2012/09/16
ID_034* gladamas 25 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/13 2012/09/16
ID_037* Onichan 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/13 2012/09/16
ID_039* zebedee 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/14 2012/09/16
ID_040* Xenophon 10 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/14 2012/09/16
ID_041* area 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/14 2012/09/16
ID_057* drrussellshane 2.5 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/22 2012/09/16
ID_058* gabbynot 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/22 2012/09/16
ID_075* zaj 10 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/12 2012/09/16
ID_079* MoinCoin 16.67 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/16 2012/09/16
ID_084* smell 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/29 2012/09/16
ID_020* Maidak 5 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/31 2012/09/16
ID_003* DeadTerra 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/06/24 2012/09/23
ID_005* gsan 125 BTC 1.5% 2012/06/24 2012/09/23
ID_053* pepelu 10 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/21 2012/09/23
ID_068* walterkronkite 21.16 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/04 2012/09/23
ID_073* Laura_Cañete 10.3 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/11 2012/09/23
ID_080* 1Pakis 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/19 2012/09/23
ID_085* Eisenberg 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/31 2012/09/23
ID_086* jaspita 10 BTC 1.5% 2012/09/01 2012/09/23
ID_004* der_meister 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/06/24 2012/09/30
ID_006* IveBeenBit 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/18 2012/09/30
ID_007* joyyen 100 BTC 1.5% 2012/06/24 2012/09/30
ID_010* pyramining 100 BTC 1.5% 2012/06/24 2012/09/30
ID_012* nimda 1.5 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/01 2012/09/30
ID_013* 1GqbET4cd6 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/01 2012/09/30
ID_014* Btc4Domains 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/01 2012/09/30
ID_017* exahash 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/01 2012/09/30
ID_021* SimBesh 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/07 2012/09/30
ID_025* EcmSeer 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/07 2012/09/30
ID_027* PatrickHarnett 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/08 2012/09/30
ID_028* mollison 30 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/08 2012/09/30
ID_029* david113 5 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/11 2012/09/30
ID_038* jaebird 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/14 2012/09/30
ID_044* johnlu 15 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/14 2012/09/30
ID_045* cst 20 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/14 2012/09/30
ID_047* Soros Shorts 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/14 2012/09/30
ID_049* zakariax 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/15 2012/09/30
ID_050* oneoctet 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/15 2012/09/30
ID_051* ElRaffa 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/18 2012/09/30
ID_052* slider1978 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/18 2012/09/30
ID_055* asfas16123 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/22 2012/09/30
ID_056* 0xz[.] 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/22 2012/09/30
ID_061* Russel616 16 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/28 2012/09/30
ID_062* wachtwoord 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/28 2012/09/30
ID_063* Koekiemonster 15 BTC 1.5% 2012/07/30 2012/09/30
ID_066* miot 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/04 2012/09/30
ID_067* juggalodarkclow 5 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/04 2012/09/30
ID_069* biteye 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/05 2012/09/30
ID_070* phr33 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/09 2012/09/30
ID_071* Manolo_Lucena 30 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/09 2012/09/30
ID_072* flix 5 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/09 2012/09/30
ID_074* rta 20 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/12 2012/09/30
ID_081* psy 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/19 2012/09/30
ID_082* Boson 10 BTC 1.5% 2012/08/25 2012/09/30
ID_087* TheOtherGuy 5 BTC 1.5% 2012/09/02 2012/09/30
ID_088* Thick_dingo 50 BTC 1.5% 2012/09/03 2012/09/30
ID_089* StrictlyBusiness 5 BTC 1.5% 2012/09/03 2012/09/30
ID_090* wuala 10 BTC 1.5% 2012/09/08 2012/09/30
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Total Bitcoins withdrawn: 3743.62 BTC (capital) + weekly interests (2% and 1.5%)
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Recientemente he publicado un artículo en mi blog hablando sobre los aspectos que, a mi juicio, hacen que bitcoin sea diferente de otras monedas virtuales, el oro o dinero fiduciario: https://www.vescudero.net/2012/06/what-really-sets-bitcoin-apart.htmlA pesar de casi que todo el blog está en español, por el momento este artículo está únicamente en inglés  |
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Thanks for your this great service for the bitcoin community.
I have just sent my donation to support your effort.
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I dont understand how anyone can believe this is a sound investment. Mind you, that goes for all mining bonds on GLBSE, not just Philj's..
I think friedcat has made a very good explanation of why this is not as bad as you might think. I know there are some other options in which you can invest your money for a much higher interest rate. It depends on your risk profile, for example you might want to invest in pirate bonds for a highest reward at the expense of a higher risk. One of the best things of mining bonds is that although their returns are not very high, as they are backup for a real mining activity their pretty safe investments, as their dividends will be self adjusted in reaction to external events. Mining difficulty will smoothly react to absorb bitcoin prices fluctuations, mining rewards halving in a few months or any technological advances that could hit the market. IMHO the key difference here is how much confidence you might have in the skills of the issuer as she/he will have to deal with these kind of changes making the right decisions. |
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My preference (at this time) is that you don't list GBF on GLBSE. I only see disadvantages to doing that.
Your time and energy are limited and valuable. Best conserve them for GBF and your research projects.
Dealing with a GBF GLBSE vehicle creates too many (both unavoidable and potential) administrative and legal issues.
I'd prefer you concentrate exclusively on maximizing our returns. Don't go too big, small is beautiful, keep it simple, etc.
1- I Vote 'no' to GBF in GLBSE. Lets focus and we'll do better 2- Keep communication strong 3- Consider opening #GBF on IRC or a GBF investors thread (or something along those lines) 4- Minimise the risk now (my opinion), let's not gamble on the 'recovery' 5- Focus 6- Thanks I agree 100% with both rockyleal and icebreaker: Focus on maximizing our returns should be priority #1. Everything else could only divert time and effort that are too valuable to be wasted, I am specially thinking about dealing with GLBSE issues. |
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