Yeah i know people also told this to me when i was mining BTC when the price was on the blackmarket; 2 dollar for 1 btc.
People started with cluster servers and get many bitcoins.

Do you know what the current price is?

U can see this on all coins, they start with cpu, maybe cpu+gpu, later u get asics. How more serious the coin is (like ARO) how more attention = more ways to mine a coin. Then u have coins what try to fight against asics (like zcash, monero etc), but it's a part of how it works. Soon or later new asics come for Monero V7, its a fight what nobody can win. So leave it like BTC does.

This is a pow coin yes. Maybe u need a 100% ico/pos or whatever coin, here you are on the wrong place

Next? Or do you stop searching? U are getting boring for me..

This was just the first copy/paste, i dont gonna post here his whole history of fud posts what he brings to bitcointalk to 100's of topics. So just ignore that kid and move forward He just want to fud not more. I dont know what kind of drugs he is using, but it got a bad reaction on his brain.

If you can trust an cryptocoin team, the ARO team is one of the few teams what u can trust. They do what they say, they get sticked to the roadmap and does more then explained on the roadmap. There is no reason to insult and attack those hard working guys.

Your childish behavior shows that you still can't seem to understand that you made a mistake Airline.
Of course I don't know you personally and actually I don't chat with douchebags like you either, but you are a special case. . .
When I saw your posts, all my radars flashed and I knew immediately that you had the brain of a 10 year old.
I don't want to be insulting, but your posts are absurd, nonsense and fake news of the most disgusting kind I've seen for a long time. . .
No one should make a statement about your nonsense and I still do not understand how you were not banned as a "Sr. Member".

Now that's what you call bots these days?

Haha no worry, this was expected, part of the crypto game. Relax,  take some popcorn and watch the ride.

How more miners are joining, how less 1 person can get. If the ARO team will control the mining part and the price, i prefer the oldskool bank they also regulate everything.
They can not ban a miner what have great speeds, there are also 0 proofs he is using hacked AWS accounts, its speculating. Maybe he is paying for those hashing power, nobody knows.

So no i never hope that ARO will act like the banks we have worldwide, ARO should be open for everybody so also big miners. On many coins u see 1 or a few persons is getting massive speeds (nicehash/rent users etc etc), also a price from a coin is NEVER EVER stable at the begin stage. ARO is still in the begin stage so the price is always getting ups and downs, i dont uynderstand why people make a problem about the ARO price is doing the same as all other coins.

This is no issue, this is how the cryptoworld works. ARODEV have the possibility to ban ZEAN, for what i know he dont want to do that because that's against all the rules a cryptocoin should have. This is why the fork came what was not planned at the beginning but it's a step forward for the community.

The issues were some people are talking about.. u can say that about all the coins what are active on coinmarketcap (only not USDT, this is a regulated coin and it will nog get pumped and dumped, its 1dollar for 1 usdt).

People what bought Bitcoin at 20.000 dollar, are they ''crying'' now because the price is 6000 dollar? Is this because BTC is bad? Nah i dont think that. Every coin got a lower price in compare with 6-9 months ago. U can not blame the ARO TEAM when prices are lower now...

I really dont understand the discussions here about the price, about zean... U can copy paste that in EVERY topic on bitcointalk, so please paste that messages in other topics, this is a waste of useless pages in this topic

I think the biggest problem from ARO atm is that the team is active and try to help everybody, there are always people what try to abuse the goodwill from a hard working team, sad but true.

Tell me:
Why did not ETH protect the price? Why did not BTC protect the price @ 20k dollar? Why did nobody protect there price during the last months? Because that's what we called; regulating the price = against the cryptosystems how it should work. That's why the aro team also dont protect the price with buy walls. Remember its a totally new coin in the cryptoworld, it always take time to raise. No worry about that

Ps. if you have proofs that zean is abusing the amazon/cloud servers on a illegal way, please send so the aro team can make actions about this. The problem is, there are no proofs (for what i know, but i can be wrong in this) he is using a botnet, its speculating by some people at this moment.


I think its more important to talk about the features this coin have and everything what is possible on this ARO system,

First of all: i start mining this coin after ~10 minutes they released this coin on bitcointalk, i was with 20 other people mining this coin. So let me make this clear, i am one of the oldest members from Arionum. That i didnt talked here but was just mining dont change anything. You can easy look at the block explorer when i did earn my first transaction, it was at day 1.
It's oke that u can not stop finding a negative thing. Like u can not stop talking about the aro price: 200 sats (while the price is ~400 sats), u can not stop saying that the exchange is for 2 months on maintenance mode (while its 1 month). You are changing the current facts.
Bitcoin is around the 6500 dollar, not 1000 dollar because it was 1000 dollar somewere in the past.
Like me, i saw aro around the 2000 sats also. However i dont care about the octaex price (where it was 2k+ sats).

I really dont understand want you want to say, u are throwing incorrect actual numbers. Yes u feel bad because octaex did bad things to everybody what was using that website, this was totally outside the control what ARO have. This has nothing to do with aro itself.

So when we are done with this, what is your next thing? You keep searching for things what are not actual anymore. Discussions are healthy, everybody on discord are discussion with eachother. But you are just searching for things what are not reall.

Like the coin ETN, i bought them for 1200 sats, the price from that coin is now around the 80 sats. Can happen.. Do i need to shit all over the place there now? What can they do about it? Anyway, outside all this negativity i want to welcome you to the cryptoworld.

I would like to correct a mistake, I thought that OctaEx was paid for with donations when in fact it was not, confusion on my part.

As for condescending replies from members of the team, I cannot comment as I did not see all the conversations you had before your ban. I am unwilling to comment on your ban, as that is something that is between yourselves and the Dev's, I am simply a marketing member looking to help ARO in any way I can. I have however seen some of your conversations, and I understand that this is a passionate issue for you, I understand you lost money, however I cannot accept that the ARO Dev team is responsible for listing on "unreliable" exchanges. At some point all the big exchanges were new and unknown, any one of them could have exit scammed. We simply provided a solution to the community that so badly wanted to be able to trade ARO.

With regards to us knowing about the cloud miners, yes we did know about it, but struggled to come up with a solution that was fair and in the best interests of the community. We believe we did come up with that solution, and yes, we will be criticised for the time taken to implement that solution, but it wasn't something that we came to lightly.

As with Mercatox, we can only go on what information we are given by them. We don't want to give no information at all to the community, so we keep them updated with what we ourselves are told.

Of course, you have a right to defend yourself in situations where you feel you have been ridiculed of had a less than favourable reply. Not knowing exactly what was said however, sometimes angry reactions to something you don't want to hear may not be the best course of action?

Where do you see that 200 sats? U keep talking about 1000-> 200 sats drop. I can not find that price. And if we go further about this price...
The lowest ARO price is still higher then the big BTC dump. Many coins (like 99% from all coins) dropped harder then ARO. The ARO price is around the 400 sats so please stop using the number 200 oké?

The community is now waiting for Mercatox to open the doors (so withdraw/deposit) and watch what the price will do. This is why people are not ''pumping'', they are waiting. They can pump, because u can trade ARO/BTC. But you dont know what happen after thedoors go open. Nobody want to ''pump'' the price to 1k or 2k sats if you dont know what will happen when the doors open. Logical or logical? This is NOT because people are losing the trust (in fact, the community trust is getting more and more).

There are big BTC members involved in ARO, you dont need to worry about the 400 sats (almost the lowest price) what ARO is worth now. Yes on some other markets u see big pumps when a deposit/withdraw is closed. This price will fall to death when the wallets are open. At this point u see that the community is preparing for the doors open on mercatox.

I would like to just clarify some points that have been raised by various members here, not to stir things up or make an already volatile situation more so, but hopefully to try and explain a few things.

For a start, to our knowledge there was no algorithm exploit, simply the fact that someone was using a huge amount of cloud services and as such gained a large amount of the hashrate. We were aware of this kind of thing for a while, yes, but we had to discuss what we thought was better for the community in the way we were going to try and tackle this problem. It was decided that rather than ban ip's that we knew had large amounts of hashing power, we could change the mining algorithm to enable a much more universal way of mining ARO. Although this did alter from the original ethos of ARO being a CPU only coin, we had to do something that kept with decentralisation, so a complete re-write of the code was implemented and worked on for weeks, including testing for weeks. When the hard fork did not go entirely as planned, which we have apologised for, we worked extremely hard to get the issues sorted. We understood that it was frustrating for some members but within approximately 24 hours, most issues were resolved. What we have noticed with the new algorithm is that cloud mining is not as profitable, and the general consensus is that most of the community is happy they can put their GPU's to work on a coin that is worthwhile. We were never going to be able to keep everyone 100% happy with such a change to the original system, but by and large the community has stuck with us and have welcomed the new mining algorithm.

On the subject of exchanges, OctaEx was very unfortunate. We did not rush in to get listed on them, we looked at the site first off, did several weeks of testing withdrawals and deposits, in an effort to make sure it was a reliable and easy to use exchange. Unfortunately a few months after we were listed on OctaEx, they did in fact do an exit scam. This is unfortunate, and I know a lot of people lost money because of this. What is apparent though is that the Dev team cannot be held accountable for this, it is sad to say but it does happen in the crypto scene, as I am sure everyone is aware. It's not something we could have foreseen, and the very fact OctaEx was used was because so many people were asking for an exchange yet we simply did not have the funds to get onto a bigger one. Donations from the community helped to list OctaEx, and by and large, for the time OctaEx was operating people were happy they had somewhere to sell their ARO.

With Mercatox, yes it is not a huge exchange, again, but a solution was required to enable trading to start taking place again. So far they have been very good, until the hard fork. They have had technical issues with their node, something which again was out of our control, and we have been working with them to try and get it sorted. It has not been 2 months that the wallet has been in maintenance, as the hard fork happened only one month ago. The problems with Mercatox have been resolved to our knowledge and hopefully the wallet will be open again in the next few days.

As for a bigger exchange, there is currently a donation process for us to be able to be listed on a bigger, more widely known exchange, so that at the very least ARO can be given some liquidity and start moving again.

I do sympathise with everyone that has either lost money or been caused inconvenience but it is a fact of crypto that these things do happen, and sometimes they are literally out of the control of the Devs. It doesn't matter how much has been invested by the development team, the marketing team, the community, we simply cannot predict these things are going to happen. I know a lot of time is given by the development team, with no income from ARO itself, even if you count transaction fees, as even if I send 1 million ARO, the fee is only ever going to be 10 ARO maximum. I myself give a hell of a lot of time to members, without any earnings myself, but it is what I do, it is my role within the ARO team.

So far the community have been outstanding in their support of ARO, and whilst there have been bumps along the way, the core community have stuck by us and continued being one of the best there is out there.  

Well that's not really how a cryptocoin should work. If somebody find a way to get many hashes (like using Amazon Servers or another cloud service) he can use that. What if i did rent servers for 10k euro's a month, i invest a lot in the coin by mining. I would be pissed of if they block my transactions. It would be funny if people call my investment a botnet without any prove. Renting cloud servers is not a botnet. However, this cloud servers has a much smaller part in the mining system now. So on that way the aro team did there thing.

The fork what Arionum made was not a small one, the total system has changes from a 1 block mining system to a ''3'' block mining system, all together on the same blockchain. This coin started to be a CPU only coin, but if people are using Cloud Services to get a lot CPU power, many coins will be go to this whale(s). That was the reason why they should fix this. However, Arionum has proved themself to do everything good (as far as human people can do) in 1 time. Like this totally new mining system (1 cpu block, 1 gpu block) is a totaly new way of mining and totally regarding the ALGO what Arionum is using.

This shows also the big opportunities what Arionum (and the team behind it) have. They are making major steps, and yes i also told them to place that steps on this forum. This because many positive things are going on but the people on bitcointalk dont know about it. I never saw a strong community like this before on a cryptocoin. On discord everybody is helping when somebody has an issue or want to improve there mining speed. This algo is ''new'' for everybody and everybody is ready to help. Everybody can take part if it, everybody can ask and give help if needed Everybody can make suggestions to the dev team to make more options reality.
When i asked cuby (she is the woman behind the Arionum mobile app, cross platform wallet and the webwallet) to add some options, she add it directly (ofcourse it should have positive effects). In 3 hours i had an mobile wallet update what have positive inpacts to the mining system form the mobile wallet (like the screensaver to prevend burn-in on displays). In the past i tried to help with Ethereum and some other coins, 99% from the time you wont get any answer or they wont do nothing about your message. So yes it's sad when this aro team is doing so much, people still try to burn it down.


And ofcourse, i also started an discussion about this cloud service part with the Aro dev, i also asked why he just dont simply ban this Zean (this zean, i dont know if this a bad person.. His dumps are totally NOT big, in fact, he made also donations to the Aro fund!) and the answer was: we dont gonne regulate the coin and the price. This Zean (nobody know if he used scam accounts on Amazon/cloud) can be a fair person what have big trusts in Arionum, maybe that's why he invested to much in this coin.
After my conversation with the ARODEV i could say one thing: i agree with arodev.


If people have questions, ask them on a normall way and everybody get there answer on a normall way Lets being nice to each other and help eachother when needed (i think this is the strongest part from Arionum, inclusive the good dev team behind it what make many coin options reall what no other coin can ever have).

Can you tell me the exploit you are talking about in more detail? Or are you talking about the AWS / GCP cpu abuse done by zean and others? If it is the second one, I dont think it appropriate to define it as a fundamental flaw of Arionum, but a flaw of the cloud services.

The aro team can not see your phone number, its an discord option.
People can always discuss on bitcointalk, do you need a phonenumber here? do you need a phonenumber on all other forums where u can talk about aro?

For what i know the aro team like to see positive people, helping eachother and bring the coin to a next level. However, the last time (totally on bitcointalk.org) people are just pure and 100% doomed/negative, they have 1 way how they want to live and thats killing (spreading fud) about everything around them what is positive. And again, i am also not always positive, i also have sometimes my suggestions and advise. Good thing is, they lissin to you when u have a problem (however, the coin / mining etc is working perfectly, so no doubt about this part). An pro-active and addicted team like the ARO team i never saw before... So yeah it's strange when people start fudding and being just negative. It's just sad that when a team is doing just great jobs and being so nice and helpfull to EVERYbody, there are still some living creatures what like to kill them by spreading negative bullshit.

I'm happy there is finally a coin with a active team what does lissin to there community and do everything to make it all real.

Also people act like the aro team is banning everybody.. Hell no they are not doing that... Again this is also just FUD from some people. If a nerd try to scam people in discord, ofc he get banned. It would be a very bad thing if the ARO TEAM does NOT ban this scammer. Many people in the cryptoworld get scammed because nobody does anything about this scammers. ARO take active steps against those scammers. What else do you want from a team on this part?

Also there is a big difference between the next things:
Spreading fud/bullshit
Asking for help
Having suggestions

Many little kids on bitcointalk just copy/paste there fud in all topics, why? I dont know, because they have no life? I really dont understand those kids. If u (not specially you, just the people what spread fud) would know what the ARO team is doing, you can only be positive. They are making major steps in the cryptoworld with a small but very smart and pro-active team. Instead of try to killing those people you (again, with you i dont mean YOU but just the people what are doing this) can also show respect to the team what is making this all reall WITHOUT an pre-mine/ico and all scam tactics what many other coins do anno 2018!

Like now with this phonenumber, you can ask just 1 little thing: hey aro team, why did you add this option on discord? Possible to disable this because i dont have a phonenumber?
Do you see the difference between this question and the way u are talking? The aro team are 100% pure living people what can think and discuss with everybody.


* i also just suggest the team to be more active on bitcointalk, this because it seems like people dont understand anything about a cryptocoin like aro. So i hope they can make sometimes time for being active here. This because many kids dont know how to ask questions but they do know how to spread fud and bullshit, this is helping nobody.
But again, just make an question if you do have a question. The aro team like to help everybody, so they also answer the questions. We are growed up people, so PLEASE also act like that. If people acting like a pissed off 8 yr old boy/girl what lost there lollypop in the dirt, nobody takes you serious (neither behind your computer, neither in real life).

Please understand that those on the marketing team are not compensated in any way, shape, or form. We do bounce ideas off each other in a private channel. Advice is offered (like a board). There is such thing as a time investment (which is most valuable and one you seem to overlook).

I've spoken to you before, Airlinepossession about your concerns, of which were regurgitated statements about the same misinformation (which you stated, "I didn't know").

A agree with some of your points, however... your delivery needs work.

That said, there is always room for improvement.

@Islapdonkey
I personally know a couple people (except myself ofc ) that were banned on Discord too for just showing some concern.
You will be called fudder here a lot. I guess they still don't acknowledge that the botnet was/is mining ARO (or you can call him an individual with a big hashrate )