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[idrispendisbey]

I dont have much idea about the current dispute, but due to this petty issue you have only enabled messaging in discord to people with verified phone numbers. I am mad about this. Would you like my home address, DNA or stool samples to be submitted to a central authority as well? What are you doing? In order to be a part of the community I have to verify my phone? Yea f that s

[extravirgin]

I dont have much idea about the current dispute, but due to this petty issue you have only enabled messaging in discord to people with verified phone numbers. I am mad about this. Would you like my home address, DNA or stool samples to be submitted to a central authority as well? What are you doing? In order to be a part of the community I have to verify my phone? Yea f that s

They have gone crazy. Everyone does not own a phone, some only have discord on their computer. They overextending their authority and its really sad.

[JoenNL]

I dont have much idea about the current dispute, but due to this petty issue you have only enabled messaging in discord to people with verified phone numbers. I am mad about this. Would you like my home address, DNA or stool samples to be submitted to a central authority as well? What are you doing? In order to be a part of the community I have to verify my phone? Yea f that s

The aro team can not see your phone number, its an discord option.
People can always discuss on bitcointalk, do you need a phonenumber here? do you need a phonenumber on all other forums where u can talk about aro?

For what i know the aro team like to see positive people, helping eachother and bring the coin to a next level. However, the last time (totally on bitcointalk.org) people are just pure and 100% doomed/negative, they have 1 way how they want to live and thats killing (spreading fud) about everything around them what is positive. And again, i am also not always positive, i also have sometimes my suggestions and advise. Good thing is, they lissin to you when u have a problem (however, the coin / mining etc is working perfectly, so no doubt about this part). An pro-active and addicted team like the ARO team i never saw before... So yeah it's strange when people start fudding and being just negative. It's just sad that when a team is doing just great jobs and being so nice and helpfull to EVERYbody, there are still some living creatures what like to kill them by spreading negative bullshit.

I'm happy there is finally a coin with a active team what does lissin to there community and do everything to make it all real.

Also people act like the aro team is banning everybody.. Hell no they are not doing that... Again this is also just FUD from some people. If a nerd try to scam people in discord, ofc he get banned. It would be a very bad thing if the ARO TEAM does NOT ban this scammer. Many people in the cryptoworld get scammed because nobody does anything about this scammers. ARO take active steps against those scammers. What else do you want from a team on this part?

Also there is a big difference between the next things:
Spreading fud/bullshit
Asking for help
Having suggestions

Many little kids on bitcointalk just copy/paste there fud in all topics, why? I dont know, because they have no life? I really dont understand those kids. If u (not specially you, just the people what spread fud) would know what the ARO team is doing, you can only be positive. They are making major steps in the cryptoworld with a small but very smart and pro-active team. Instead of try to killing those people you (again, with you i dont mean YOU but just the people what are doing this) can also show respect to the team what is making this all reall WITHOUT an pre-mine/ico and all scam tactics what many other coins do anno 2018!

Like now with this phonenumber, you can ask just 1 little thing: hey aro team, why did you add this option on discord? Possible to disable this because i dont have a phonenumber?
Do you see the difference between this question and the way u are talking? The aro team are 100% pure living people what can think and discuss with everybody.


* i also just suggest the team to be more active on bitcointalk, this because it seems like people dont understand anything about a cryptocoin like aro. So i hope they can make sometimes time for being active here. This because many kids dont know how to ask questions but they do know how to spread fud and bullshit, this is helping nobody.
But again, just make an question if you do have a question. The aro team like to help everybody, so they also answer the questions. We are growed up people, so PLEASE also act like that. If people acting like a pissed off 8 yr old boy/girl what lost there lollypop in the dirt, nobody takes you serious (neither behind your computer, neither in real life).


About the exchanges;
Yeah i would like to see Arionum on more exchanges, and with more exchanges i mean exchanges like Cryptopia, HitBTC and more other proved exchanges. I think they went to Mercatox because they must pay the listing using the donations they get. Mercatox has a low listing fee.
Like Cryptopia they ask 3 BTC to get listed, that's enough money for a coin what has 0 premine and 0 ico/crowdfund/token sale. When we look to HitBTC i tought it's around the 10BTC what they ask for your coin to be listed.
Also more exchanges at the same time would be positive for Arionum, if ARO is active on more different exchanges an maintance mode on 1 exchange is not a problem. Like now we are only active on Mercatox, mercatox is still busy now with testing deposits/withdraws (this because of the fork ~4 weeks ago). Yeah this takes long, and yeah maybe a other exchange would do this faster. But remember; the aro dev/team pays the listing on exchanges by using the donations. For what i know they got almost enough donations to get to the next exchange, an exchange like Cryptopia (i dont know if cryptopia will be the next exchange, but it will be a proven ''big'' exchange so all the lies will fly away).

If people would just ask there questions to the dev or overlode(or just simply in this topic), you would get a answer -> more positive mindset about Arionum.

For now my advise is to sit back and wait for the ride! We will do this together, not any doubt about that!

[Islapdonkey]

I dont have much idea about the current dispute, but due to this petty issue you have only enabled messaging in discord to people with verified phone numbers. I am mad about this. Would you like my home address, DNA or stool samples to be submitted to a central authority as well? What are you doing? In order to be a part of the community I have to verify my phone? Yea f that s

The aro team can not see your phone number, its an discord option.
People can always discuss on bitcointalk, do you need a phonenumber here? do you need a phonenumber on all other forums where u can talk about aro?

For what i know the aro team like to see positive people, helping eachother and bring the coin to a next level. However, the last time (totally on bitcointalk.org) people are just pure and 100% doomed/negative, they have 1 way how they want to live and thats killing (spreading fud) about everything around them what is positive. And again, i am also not always positive, i also have sometimes my suggestions and advise. Good thing is, they lissin to you when u have a problem (however, the coin / mining etc is working perfectly, so no doubt about this part). An pro-active and addicted team like the ARO team i never saw before... So yeah it's strange when people start fudding and being just negative. It's just sad that when a team is doing just great jobs and being so nice and helpfull to EVERYbody, there are still some living creatures what like to kill them by spreading negative bullshit.

I'm happy there is finally a coin with a active team what does lissin to there community and do everything to make it all real.

Also people act like the aro team is banning everybody.. Hell no they are not doing that... Again this is also just FUD from some people. If a nerd try to scam people in discord, ofc he get banned. It would be a very bad thing if the ARO TEAM does NOT ban this scammer. Many people in the cryptoworld get scammed because nobody does anything about this scammers. ARO take active steps against those scammers. What else do you want from a team on this part?

Also there is a big difference between the next things:
Spreading fud/bullshit
Asking for help
Having suggestions

Many little kids on bitcointalk just copy/paste there fud in all topics, why? I dont know, because they have no life? I really dont understand those kids. If u (not specially you, just the people what spread fud) would know what the ARO team is doing, you can only be positive. They are making major steps in the cryptoworld with a small but very smart and pro-active team. Instead of try to killing those people you (again, with you i dont mean YOU but just the people what are doing this) can also show respect to the team what is making this all reall WITHOUT an pre-mine/ico and all scam tactics what many other coins do anno 2018!

Like now with this phonenumber, you can ask just 1 little thing: hey aro team, why did you add this option on discord? Possible to disable this because i dont have a phonenumber?
Do you see the difference between this question and the way u are talking? The aro team are 100% pure living people what can think and discuss with everybody.


* i also just suggest the team to be more active on bitcointalk, this because it seems like people dont understand anything about a cryptocoin like aro. So i hope they can make sometimes time for being active here. This because many kids dont know how to ask questions but they do know how to spread fud and bullshit, this is helping nobody.
But again, just make an question if you do have a question. The aro team like to help everybody, so they also answer the questions. We are growed up people, so PLEASE also act like that. If people acting like a pissed off 8 yr old boy/girl what lost there lollypop in the dirt, nobody takes you serious (neither behind your computer, neither in real life).

  FUDDDDDD! I was waiting on the first sheep to throw that common denominator out there, only in crypto will you clearly show the fire and they continuously yell fud that its not a fire but a rainbow. I look forward to the other claims of fud with no concise supporting comments. Also, Mr fud alert, maybe you can give us more info on this nerd that was banned on discord for trying to scam people cos am not aware of that.

 Last i checked i was banned for clearly stating that since inception the coin has been associated with less than reliable exchanges and the dev team need to assume some accountability cos several money has been invested and some lost due to their inaction. They promoted and touted octaex, which ended up pulling an exit scam that resulted in loss of tons of money. They waited for an algo exploiter to destroy the coin's value before taking action. They posted that the coin will be on maintenance for a week on mercatox and two months later, the coin is still on maintenance with no clear date on when trading will commence. So you have a coin with huge investments allocated to it and there is nowhere to trade it. Well, lo and behold you make a statement about the matter on discord and you might be banned for not been positive/asking nicely.

 So my response to that is "Fuck out of here" As i aforementioned, i personally invested 7 BTC in this coin and i encouraged several friends to invest over 5 BTC into it, So excuse me for not staying positive thru the bullshit when i have friends with investment in the gutter due to action (or more appropriately inaction) from the dev team. I wonder how much money the super positive, happy go lucky, its raining huge amount of turds but we keep a smile on our face members have invested in the project. Shit i wonder how much the dev personally invested into his own project. My guess is not a lot, and its all profit for him. Cos if he did, he would have been proactive about fixing that algo exploit before it destroyed the coin's value. It should also be noted that the algo exploiter probably holds the number one spot on the leader board and since the coin has stayed on maintenance post the fork to fix the algo exploit, no one can safely state that the fork was successfully in curtailing his actions.

 They talks all that crap on discord about wanting the project to stay professional thus the need for lack of curse words on discord but that is quite laughable. I would expect professionalism to extend to acts related to the project than few curse words thrown on a chat room.
  how professional was it that they waited till the exploit of the algo resulted in loss of coin value from a stable point of 1000 sat to low 200s before he decided to take an action? even though the exploit was discovered quite early and could have been easily fixed immediately. it took several months before he decided to take action.
  How professional is it that an announcement of coin maintenance on mercatox for a week, has dragged on for two months with no clear date on when it will be resolved? This matters should supersede a curse word on a forum but i guess its easier to tackle the little things.

 With regards to the phone number implementation, he just removed it and claimed it was a temp thing to discourage spammers that were active yesterday. Which makes zero sense cos spammers are not only active for one day. I have been a member of that discord for several months and have seen several instances of spam related post and none yielded such strict implement. I guess he was trying to deflect some of us that were banned but have several aliases on discord from contributing/staying active on the forum and he hates the fact that the little hammer couldn't curtail our ability to view/contribute to the conversation on discord. But since he realized that he will face a staunch opposition with that angle/possibly loss a considerable amount of members, he changed course under some bs pretense.

[idrispendisbey]

Can you tell me the exploit you are talking about in more detail? Or are you talking about the AWS / GCP cpu abuse done by zean and others? If it is the second one, I dont think it appropriate to define it as a fundamental flaw of Arionum, but a flaw of the cloud services.

[JoenNL]

I dont have much idea about the current dispute, but due to this petty issue you have only enabled messaging in discord to people with verified phone numbers. I am mad about this. Would you like my home address, DNA or stool samples to be submitted to a central authority as well? What are you doing? In order to be a part of the community I have to verify my phone? Yea f that s

The aro team can not see your phone number, its an discord option.
People can always discuss on bitcointalk, do you need a phonenumber here? do you need a phonenumber on all other forums where u can talk about aro?

For what i know the aro team like to see positive people, helping eachother and bring the coin to a next level. However, the last time (totally on bitcointalk.org) people are just pure and 100% doomed/negative, they have 1 way how they want to live and thats killing (spreading fud) about everything around them what is positive. And again, i am also not always positive, i also have sometimes my suggestions and advise. Good thing is, they lissin to you when u have a problem (however, the coin / mining etc is working perfectly, so no doubt about this part). An pro-active and addicted team like the ARO team i never saw before... So yeah it's strange when people start fudding and being just negative. It's just sad that when a team is doing just great jobs and being so nice and helpfull to EVERYbody, there are still some living creatures what like to kill them by spreading negative bullshit.

I'm happy there is finally a coin with a active team what does lissin to there community and do everything to make it all real.

Also people act like the aro team is banning everybody.. Hell no they are not doing that... Again this is also just FUD from some people. If a nerd try to scam people in discord, ofc he get banned. It would be a very bad thing if the ARO TEAM does NOT ban this scammer. Many people in the cryptoworld get scammed because nobody does anything about this scammers. ARO take active steps against those scammers. What else do you want from a team on this part?

Also there is a big difference between the next things:
Spreading fud/bullshit
Asking for help
Having suggestions

Many little kids on bitcointalk just copy/paste there fud in all topics, why? I dont know, because they have no life? I really dont understand those kids. If u (not specially you, just the people what spread fud) would know what the ARO team is doing, you can only be positive. They are making major steps in the cryptoworld with a small but very smart and pro-active team. Instead of try to killing those people you (again, with you i dont mean YOU but just the people what are doing this) can also show respect to the team what is making this all reall WITHOUT an pre-mine/ico and all scam tactics what many other coins do anno 2018!

Like now with this phonenumber, you can ask just 1 little thing: hey aro team, why did you add this option on discord? Possible to disable this because i dont have a phonenumber?
Do you see the difference between this question and the way u are talking? The aro team are 100% pure living people what can think and discuss with everybody.


* i also just suggest the team to be more active on bitcointalk, this because it seems like people dont understand anything about a cryptocoin like aro. So i hope they can make sometimes time for being active here. This because many kids dont know how to ask questions but they do know how to spread fud and bullshit, this is helping nobody.
But again, just make an question if you do have a question. The aro team like to help everybody, so they also answer the questions. We are growed up people, so PLEASE also act like that. If people acting like a pissed off 8 yr old boy/girl what lost there lollypop in the dirt, nobody takes you serious (neither behind your computer, neither in real life).

I was waiting on the first sheep to throw that common denominator out there, only in crypto will you clearly show the fire and they continuously yell fud that its not a fire but a rainbow. I look forward to the other claims of fud with no concise supporting comments. Also, Mr fud alert, maybe you can give us more info on this nerd that was banned on discord for trying to scam people cos am not aware of that.

 Last i checked i was banned for clearly stating that since inception the coin has been associated with less than reliable exchanges and the dev team need to assume some accountability cos several money has been invested and some lost due to their inaction. They promoted and touted octaex, which ended up pulling an exit scam that resulted in loss of tons of money. They waited for an algo exploiter to destroy the coin's value before taking action. They posted that the coin will be on maintenance for a week on mercatox and two months later, the coin is still on maintenance with no clear date on when trading will commence. So you have a coin with huge investments allocated to it and there is nowhere to trade it. Well, lo and behold you make a statement about the matter on discord and you might be banned for not been positive/asking nicely.

 So my response to that is "" As i aforementioned, i personally invested 7 BTC in this coin and i encouraged several friends to invest over 5 BTC into it, So excuse me for not staying positive thru the bullshit when i have friends with investment in the gutter due to action (or more appropriately inaction) from the dev team. I wonder how much money the super positive, happy go lucky, its raining huge amount of turds but we keep a smile on our face members have invested in the project. Shit i wonder how much the dev personally invested into his own project. My guess is not a lot, and its all profit for him. Cos if he did, he would have been proactive about fixing that algo exploit before it destroyed the coin's value.

 They talks all that crap on discord about wanting the project to stay professional thus the need for lack of curse words on discord but that is quite laughable. I would expect professionalism to extend to acts related to the project than few curse words thrown on chat room.
How professional is it that an announcement of coin maintenance on mercatox for a week, has dragged on for two months with no clear date on when it will be resolved?[/color][/b] This matters should supersede a curse word on a forum but i guess its easier to tackle the little things.

 With regards to the phone number implementation, he just removed it and claimed it was a temp thing to discourage spammers that were active yesterday. Which makes zero sense cos spammers are not only active for one day. I have been a member of that discord for several months and have seen several instances of spam related post and none yielded such strict implement. I guess he was trying to deflect some of us that were banned but have several aliases on discord from contributing/staying active on the forum and he hates the fact that the little hammer couldn't curtail our ability to view/contribute to the conversation on discord. But since he realized that he will face a staunch opposition with that angle/possibly loss a considerable amount of members, he changed course under some bs pretense.[/size]

I dont say that u are spreading fud. I talked in global (i also told that many times in my message with YOU i dont mean YOU as person, but the people what are spreading fud).

Octaex was (i'm happy we are away from that exchange) one big shit! I totally agree with you! I lost over 20 BTC on MTGox, i lost over 15 BTC on Cryptsy (all over 5+ years ago), i can not be pissed of on the Bitcoin Team about this. Yeah it totally suck i know, i agree and i know what u feel. But you can not be pissed of on the ARO TEAM what didnt choose for that. The ARO team did everything they could to get the money back from the Octaex exchange, without any results. So yes Octaex was a scam, but the way you talk it looks like you try to blame the ARO team and that's not correct in my point of view.

So i hope we will get listed on an 2nd exchange, an exchange what everybody trust. Like i trust Cryptopia and this would be a nice next step in my eyes. Only thing what i know is that there are busy with more exchanges what earned the trust from all crypto users ( i dont know what the exchange will be, they will annonce that when its ready ).. I think when we get listed on more exchanges, some strange feelings from some people will go away. For what i know, this new algo coin is working great, everything is working like it should be (ofc, it can always be beter and beter, and that's something for the aro team). So beter and more exchanges would be a great next step now. And they will come, nobody need to worry about that

[just_strange32]

Arionum is a platform with a transaction fee of 0.25% on all transactions. In my opinion, a bit of incentive for some objects will make the Arionum stronger. In the future, does the project plan to offer fee incentives to loyal customers and large volume customers?

[Islapdonkey]

Can you tell me the exploit you are talking about in more detail? Or are you talking about the AWS / GCP cpu abuse done by zean and others? If it is the second one, I dont think it appropriate to define it as a fundamental flaw of Arionum, but a flaw of the cloud services.

 It was a flaw of the cloud services that was immediately identified by the general members and made visible to the dev team. An immediate update to the algo could have easily prevented the severe dump but they waited for months till the coin fell from a stable 1000 sat to lower 200 sat before implementing any change. To make matters worse, this wasn't a rewrite that needed several months to be implement rather its a week of work with a busy schedule, so it puzzles the shit out of me on why they waited to implement that change.

[DrewVi]

Hello  But why is Bitcointalk Officially endorsing this coin/token though?
Any reason why this in particular? Just let me know if you are aware of this, please

[lncm]

What I find strange is that after a half-baked hard fork that didn't fix a main issue (botnet), the only exchange that trades ARO has its wallet on maintenance since then.

If that's a sign of an addicted and pro-active team, I can't imagine if they were sloppy.

 

[JoenNL]

Can you tell me the exploit you are talking about in more detail? Or are you talking about the AWS / GCP cpu abuse done by zean and others? If it is the second one, I dont think it appropriate to define it as a fundamental flaw of Arionum, but a flaw of the cloud services.

 It was a flaw of the cloud services that was immediately identified by the general members and made visible to the dev team. An immediate update to the algo could have easily prevented the severe dump but they waited for months till the coin fell from a stable 1000 sat to lower 200 sat before implementing any change. To make matters worse, this wasn't a rewrite that needed several months to be implement rather its a week of work with a busy schedule, so it puzzles the shit out of me on why they waited to implement that change.

Well that's not really how a cryptocoin should work. If somebody find a way to get many hashes (like using Amazon Servers or another cloud service) he can use that. What if i did rent servers for 10k euro's a month, i invest a lot in the coin by mining. I would be pissed of if they block my transactions. It would be funny if people call my investment a botnet without any prove. Renting cloud servers is not a botnet. However, this cloud servers has a much smaller part in the mining system now. So on that way the aro team did there thing.

The fork what Arionum made was not a small one, the total system has changes from a 1 block mining system to a ''3'' block mining system, all together on the same blockchain. This coin started to be a CPU only coin, but if people are using Cloud Services to get a lot CPU power, many coins will be go to this whale(s). That was the reason why they should fix this. However, Arionum has proved themself to do everything good (as far as human people can do) in 1 time. Like this totally new mining system (1 cpu block, 1 gpu block) is a totaly new way of mining and totally regarding the ALGO what Arionum is using.

This shows also the big opportunities what Arionum (and the team behind it) have. They are making major steps, and yes i also told them to place that steps on this forum. This because many positive things are going on but the people on bitcointalk dont know about it. I never saw a strong community like this before on a cryptocoin. On discord everybody is helping when somebody has an issue or want to improve there mining speed. This algo is ''new'' for everybody and everybody is ready to help. Everybody can take part if it, everybody can ask and give help if needed Everybody can make suggestions to the dev team to make more options reality.
When i asked cuby (she is the woman behind the Arionum mobile app, cross platform wallet and the webwallet) to add some options, she add it directly (ofcourse it should have positive effects). In 3 hours i had an mobile wallet update what have positive inpacts to the mining system form the mobile wallet (like the screensaver to prevend burn-in on displays). In the past i tried to help with Ethereum and some other coins, 99% from the time you wont get any answer or they wont do nothing about your message. So yes it's sad when this aro team is doing so much, people still try to burn it down.


And ofcourse, i also started an discussion about this cloud service part with the Aro dev, i also asked why he just dont simply ban this Zean (this zean, i dont know if this a bad person.. His dumps are totally NOT big, in fact, he made also donations to the Aro fund!) and the answer was: we dont gonne regulate the coin and the price. This Zean (nobody know if he used scam accounts on Amazon/cloud) can be a fair person what have big trusts in Arionum, maybe that's why he invested to much in this coin.
After my conversation with the ARODEV i could say one thing: i agree with arodev.


If people have questions, ask them on a normall way and everybody get there answer on a normall way Lets being nice to each other and help eachother when needed (i think this is the strongest part from Arionum, inclusive the good dev team behind it what make many coin options reall what no other coin can ever have).

[JoenNL]

What I find strange is that after a half-baked hard fork that didn't fix a main issue (botnet), the only exchange that trades ARO has its wallet on maintenance since then.

If that's a sign of an addicted and pro-active team, I can't imagine if they were sloppy.

 

Oh but the help from the ARO side is already givin, last message from mercatox was that they are testing the deposits/withdraws. The ARO team dont have to do anything anymore, we (you, me, everybody) just wait for mercatox to open the doors again

It's normall that during a fork the exchange put an coin on maintenance mode. I remember on Bittrex a coin was for 2-3 months on maintenance mode haha Yeah it can happen, i hope mercatox has finished the tests soon (maybe today?).

[Islapdonkey]

Can you tell me the exploit you are talking about in more detail? Or are you talking about the AWS / GCP cpu abuse done by zean and others? If it is the second one, I dont think it appropriate to define it as a fundamental flaw of Arionum, but a flaw of the cloud services.

 It was a flaw of the cloud services that was immediately identified by the general members and made visible to the dev team. An immediate update to the algo could have easily prevented the severe dump but they waited for months till the coin fell from a stable 1000 sat to lower 200 sat before implementing any change. To make matters worse, this wasn't a rewrite that needed several months to be implement rather its a week of work with a busy schedule, so it puzzles the shit out of me on why they waited to implement that change.

Well that's not really how a cryptocoin should work. If somebody find a way to get many hashes (like using Amazon Servers or another cloud service) he can use that. What if i did rent servers for 10k euro's a month, i invest a lot in the coin by mining. I would be pissed of if they block my transactions. It would be funny if people call my investment a botnet without any prove. Renting cloud servers is not a botnet. However, this cloud servers has a much smaller part in the mining system now. So on that way the aro team did there thing.

The fork what Arionum made was not a small one, the total system has changes from a 1 block mining system to a ''3'' block mining system, all together on the same blockchain. This coin started to be a CPU only coin, but if people are using Cloud Services to get a lot CPU power, many coins will be go to this whale(s). That was the reason why they should fix this. However, Arionum has proved themself to do everything good (as far as human people can do) in 1 time. Like this totally new mining system (1 cpu block, 1 gpu block) is a totaly new way of mining and totally regarding the ALGO what Arionum is using.

This shows also the big opportunities what Arionum (and the team behind it) have. They are making major steps, and yes i also told them to place that steps on this forum. This because many positive things are going on but the people on bitcointalk dont know about it. I never saw a strong community like this before on a cryptocoin. On discord everybody is helping when somebody has an issue or want to improve there mining speed. This algo is ''new'' for everybody and everybody is ready to help. Everybody can take part if it, everybody can ask and give help if needed Everybody can make suggestions to the dev team to make more options reality.
When i asked cuby (she is the woman behind the Arionum mobile app, cross platform wallet and the webwallet) to add some options, she add it directly (ofcourse it should have positive effects). In 3 hours i had an mobile wallet update what have positive inpacts to the mining system form the mobile wallet (like the screensaver to prevend burn-in on displays). In the past i tried to help with Ethereum and some other coins, 99% from the time you wont get any answer or they wont do nothing about your message. So yes it's sad when this aro team is doing so much, people still try to burn it down.


And ofcourse, i also started an discussion about this cloud service part with the Aro dev, i also asked why he just dont simply ban this Zean (this zean, i dont know if this a bad person.. His dumps are totally NOT big, in fact, he made also donations to the Aro fund!) and the answer was: we dont gonne regulate the coin and the price. This Zean (nobody know if he used scam accounts on Amazon/cloud) can be a fair person what have big trusts in Arionum, maybe that's why he invested to much in this coin.
After my conversation with the ARODEV i could say one thing: i agree with arodev.


If people have questions, ask them on a normall way and everybody get there answer on a normall way Lets being nice to each other and help eachother when needed (i think this is the strongest part from Arionum, inclusive the good dev team behind it what make many coin options reall what no other coin can ever have).

  Your angle is of no value,  cos they ended up switching the algo,  thus proving they knew and realized that it was been exploited from the beginning when the members brought it to their attention.  If the dev team had personal finances invested into the coin like some of us and it wasnt all gain for them, they wouldn't have waited months to update that algo.  They wouldn't have sat around and comfortably watch the coin crash from a stable 1000 sat to 200 sat due to the action of one or few individuals. I will reiterate that the work done was a week job on a busy schedule. I have a sister that does this for a living and few friends that can attest to that.

 I have no issue with cuby, I think she is great but I don't believe in sugarcoating my opinion to stay positive thru some bullshit.  And what is a normal way to ask a question? All the points i stated that resulted in a ban were clearly facts. I dropped a few fbomb towards slptome a marketing (but not really marketing) guy who replied to my ist statement about issue's related to the coin still in maintenance two months post its due date by stating that "i sound like a broken record"
 
  Respect is earned not given cos you have some bullshit admin tag associated with your name.  I won't be surprised if i personally invested/ promoted the coin more than the aforementioned guy with the marketing tag,  whose only marketing tactic is to get on discord and talk about moon every once in awhile.  So yeah fuck him.

 Like I already stated there are more pressing issues that had yet to be dealt with or dealt with in extreme tardy fashion that speaks on professionalism rather than worrying about an f bomb on a forum.  

 As for the dumper, the coin has stayed in maintenance post the algo update,  so we don't know if his action will be curtailed.  One thing i know is that he was given the time to accumulate a hefty amount of coin and shoot to the top of the leader board even with the extensive dumping.  So,  he can choose to create masternodes and make a killing of that end while still killing the cpu side.  So if anything he is only limited on the gpu side, which is one part of a three sided equation.

[OvErLoDe1]

I would like to just clarify some points that have been raised by various members here, not to stir things up or make an already volatile situation more so, but hopefully to try and explain a few things.

For a start, to our knowledge there was no algorithm exploit, simply the fact that someone was using a huge amount of cloud services and as such gained a large amount of the hashrate. We were aware of this kind of thing for a while, yes, but we had to discuss what we thought was better for the community in the way we were going to try and tackle this problem. It was decided that rather than ban ip's that we knew had large amounts of hashing power, we could change the mining algorithm to enable a much more universal way of mining ARO. Although this did alter from the original ethos of ARO being a CPU only coin, we had to do something that kept with decentralisation, so a complete re-write of the code was implemented and worked on for weeks, including testing for weeks. When the hard fork did not go entirely as planned, which we have apologised for, we worked extremely hard to get the issues sorted. We understood that it was frustrating for some members but within approximately 24 hours, most issues were resolved. What we have noticed with the new algorithm is that cloud mining is not as profitable, and the general consensus is that most of the community is happy they can put their GPU's to work on a coin that is worthwhile. We were never going to be able to keep everyone 100% happy with such a change to the original system, but by and large the community has stuck with us and have welcomed the new mining algorithm.

On the subject of exchanges, OctaEx was very unfortunate. We did not rush in to get listed on them, we looked at the site first off, did several weeks of testing withdrawals and deposits, in an effort to make sure it was a reliable and easy to use exchange. Unfortunately a few months after we were listed on OctaEx, they did in fact do an exit scam. This is unfortunate, and I know a lot of people lost money because of this. What is apparent though is that the Dev team cannot be held accountable for this, it is sad to say but it does happen in the crypto scene, as I am sure everyone is aware. It's not something we could have foreseen, and the very fact OctaEx was used was because so many people were asking for an exchange yet we simply did not have the funds to get onto a bigger one. By and large, for the time OctaEx was operating people were happy they had somewhere to sell their ARO.

With Mercatox, yes it is not a huge exchange, again, but a solution was required to enable trading to start taking place again. So far they have been very good, until the hard fork. They have had technical issues with their node, something which again was out of our control, and we have been working with them to try and get it sorted. It has not been 2 months that the wallet has been in maintenance, as the hard fork happened only one month ago. The problems with Mercatox have been resolved to our knowledge and hopefully the wallet will be open again in the next few days.

As for a bigger exchange, there is currently a donation process for us to be able to be listed on a bigger, more widely known exchange, so that at the very least ARO can be given some liquidity and start moving again.

I do sympathise with everyone that has either lost money or been caused inconvenience but it is a fact of crypto that these things do happen, and sometimes they are literally out of the control of the Devs. It doesn't matter how much has been invested by the development team, the marketing team, the community, we simply cannot predict these things are going to happen. I know a lot of time is given by the development team, with no income from ARO itself, even if you count transaction fees, as even if I send 1 million ARO, the fee is only ever going to be 10 ARO maximum. I myself give a hell of a lot of time to members, without any earnings myself, but it is what I do, it is my role within the ARO team.

So far the community have been outstanding in their support of ARO, and whilst there have been bumps along the way, the core community have stuck by us and continued being one of the best there is out there.  

[JoenNL]

Can you tell me the exploit you are talking about in more detail? Or are you talking about the AWS / GCP cpu abuse done by zean and others? If it is the second one, I dont think it appropriate to define it as a fundamental flaw of Arionum, but a flaw of the cloud services.

 It was a flaw of the cloud services that was immediately identified by the general members and made visible to the dev team. An immediate update to the algo could have easily prevented the severe dump but they waited for months till the coin fell from a stable 1000 sat to lower 200 sat before implementing any change. To make matters worse, this wasn't a rewrite that needed several months to be implement rather its a week of work with a busy schedule, so it puzzles the shit out of me on why they waited to implement that change.

Well that's not really how a cryptocoin should work. If somebody find a way to get many hashes (like using Amazon Servers or another cloud service) he can use that. What if i did rent servers for 10k euro's a month, i invest a lot in the coin by mining. I would be pissed of if they block my transactions. It would be funny if people call my investment a botnet without any prove. Renting cloud servers is not a botnet. However, this cloud servers has a much smaller part in the mining system now. So on that way the aro team did there thing.

The fork what Arionum made was not a small one, the total system has changes from a 1 block mining system to a ''3'' block mining system, all together on the same blockchain. This coin started to be a CPU only coin, but if people are using Cloud Services to get a lot CPU power, many coins will be go to this whale(s). That was the reason why they should fix this. However, Arionum has proved themself to do everything good (as far as human people can do) in 1 time. Like this totally new mining system (1 cpu block, 1 gpu block) is a totaly new way of mining and totally regarding the ALGO what Arionum is using.

This shows also the big opportunities what Arionum (and the team behind it) have. They are making major steps, and yes i also told them to place that steps on this forum. This because many positive things are going on but the people on bitcointalk dont know about it. I never saw a strong community like this before on a cryptocoin. On discord everybody is helping when somebody has an issue or want to improve there mining speed. This algo is ''new'' for everybody and everybody is ready to help. Everybody can take part if it, everybody can ask and give help if needed Everybody can make suggestions to the dev team to make more options reality.
When i asked cuby (she is the woman behind the Arionum mobile app, cross platform wallet and the webwallet) to add some options, she add it directly (ofcourse it should have positive effects). In 3 hours i had an mobile wallet update what have positive inpacts to the mining system form the mobile wallet (like the screensaver to prevend burn-in on displays). In the past i tried to help with Ethereum and some other coins, 99% from the time you wont get any answer or they wont do nothing about your message. So yes it's sad when this aro team is doing so much, people still try to burn it down.


And ofcourse, i also started an discussion about this cloud service part with the Aro dev, i also asked why he just dont simply ban this Zean (this zean, i dont know if this a bad person.. His dumps are totally NOT big, in fact, he made also donations to the Aro fund!) and the answer was: we dont gonne regulate the coin and the price. This Zean (nobody know if he used scam accounts on Amazon/cloud) can be a fair person what have big trusts in Arionum, maybe that's why he invested to much in this coin.
After my conversation with the ARODEV i could say one thing: i agree with arodev.


If people have questions, ask them on a normall way and everybody get there answer on a normall way Lets being nice to each other and help eachother when needed (i think this is the strongest part from Arionum, inclusive the good dev team behind it what make many coin options reall what no other coin can ever have).

  Your angle is of no value,  cos they ended up switching the algo,  thus proving they knew and realized that it was been exploited from the beginning when the members brought it to their attention.  If the dev team had personal finances invested into the coin like some of us and it wasnt all gain for them, then they wouldn't have waited months to update that algo.  They wouldn't have sat around and comfortably watch the coin crash from a stable 1000 sat to 200 sat due to the action of one or few individuals. I will reiterate that the work done was a week job on a busy schedule. I have a sister that does this for a living and few friends that can attest to that.

 I have no issue with cuby, I think she is great but I don't believe in sugarcoating my opinion to stay positive thru some bullshit.  And what is a normal way to ask a question? All the points i stated that resulted in a ban were clearly facts. I dropped a few fbomb towards slptome a marketing (but not really marketing) guy who replied to my ist statement about issue's related to the coin still in maintenance two months post its due date by stating that "i sound like a broken record"
 
  Respect is earned not given cos you have some bullshit admin tag associated with your name.  I won't be surprised if i personally invested/ promoted the coin more than the aforementioned guy with the marketing tag,  whose only marketing tactic is to get on the board and talk about moon every once in awhile.  So yeah fuck him.

 Like I already stated there are more pressing issues that had yet to be dealt with or dealt with in extreme tardy fashion that speaks on professionalism rather than worrying about an f bomb on a forum. 

 As for the dumper, the coin has stayed in maintenance post the algo update,  so we don't know if his action will be curtailed.  One thing i know is that he was given the time to accumulate a hefty amount of coin and shoot to the top of the leader board even with the extensive dumping.  So,  he can choose to create masternodes and make a killing of that end while still killing the cpu side.  So if anything he is only limited on the gpu side, which is one part of a three sided equation.

Where do you see that 200 sats? U keep talking about 1000-> 200 sats drop. I can not find that price. And if we go further about this price...
The lowest ARO price is still higher then the big BTC dump. Many coins (like 99% from all coins) dropped harder then ARO. The ARO price is around the 400 sats so please stop using the number 200 oké?

The community is now waiting for Mercatox to open the doors (so withdraw/deposit) and watch what the price will do. This is why people are not ''pumping'', they are waiting. They can pump, because u can trade ARO/BTC. But you dont know what happen after thedoors go open. Nobody want to ''pump'' the price to 1k or 2k sats if you dont know what will happen when the doors open. Logical or logical? This is NOT because people are losing the trust (in fact, the community trust is getting more and more).

There are big BTC members involved in ARO, you dont need to worry about the 400 sats (almost the lowest price) what ARO is worth now. Yes on some other markets u see big pumps when a deposit/withdraw is closed. This price will fall to death when the wallets are open. At this point u see that the community is preparing for the doors open on mercatox.

[AliyahhDa]

Looks like a really interesting business with difficult aims in my opinion. Hope you gonna hold your timlane and can release your Final version allready in Q4. Gonna follow up on your plans.

[JoenNL]

Looks like a really interesting business with difficult aims in my opinion. Hope you gonna hold your timlane and can release your Final version allready in Q4. Gonna follow up on your plans.

yeah i dont wory about it Is a great team with more results then words, they do more then that they talk.

[Islapdonkey]

I would like to just clarify some points that have been raised by various members here, not to stir things up or make an already volatile situation more so, but hopefully to try and explain a few things.

For a start, to our knowledge there was no algorithm exploit, simply the fact that someone was using a huge amount of cloud services and as such gained a large amount of the hashrate. We were aware of this kind of thing for a while, yes, but we had to discuss what we thought was better for the community in the way we were going to try and tackle this problem. It was decided that rather than ban ip's that we knew had large amounts of hashing power, we could change the mining algorithm to enable a much more universal way of mining ARO. Although this did alter from the original ethos of ARO being a CPU only coin, we had to do something that kept with decentralisation, so a complete re-write of the code was implemented and worked on for weeks, including testing for weeks. When the hard fork did not go entirely as planned, which we have apologised for, we worked extremely hard to get the issues sorted. We understood that it was frustrating for some members but within approximately 24 hours, most issues were resolved. What we have noticed with the new algorithm is that cloud mining is not as profitable, and the general consensus is that most of the community is happy they can put their GPU's to work on a coin that is worthwhile. We were never going to be able to keep everyone 100% happy with such a change to the original system, but by and large the community has stuck with us and have welcomed the new mining algorithm.

On the subject of exchanges, OctaEx was very unfortunate. We did not rush in to get listed on them, we looked at the site first off, did several weeks of testing withdrawals and deposits, in an effort to make sure it was a reliable and easy to use exchange. Unfortunately a few months after we were listed on OctaEx, they did in fact do an exit scam. This is unfortunate, and I know a lot of people lost money because of this. What is apparent though is that the Dev team cannot be held accountable for this, it is sad to say but it does happen in the crypto scene, as I am sure everyone is aware. It's not something we could have foreseen, and the very fact OctaEx was used was because so many people were asking for an exchange yet we simply did not have the funds to get onto a bigger one. Donations from the community helped to list OctaEx, and by and large, for the time OctaEx was operating people were happy they had somewhere to sell their ARO.

With Mercatox, yes it is not a huge exchange, again, but a solution was required to enable trading to start taking place again. So far they have been very good, until the hard fork. They have had technical issues with their node, something which again was out of our control, and we have been working with them to try and get it sorted. It has not been 2 months that the wallet has been in maintenance, as the hard fork happened only one month ago. The problems with Mercatox have been resolved to our knowledge and hopefully the wallet will be open again in the next few days.

As for a bigger exchange, there is currently a donation process for us to be able to be listed on a bigger, more widely known exchange, so that at the very least ARO can be given some liquidity and start moving again.

I do sympathise with everyone that has either lost money or been caused inconvenience but it is a fact of crypto that these things do happen, and sometimes they are literally out of the control of the Devs. It doesn't matter how much has been invested by the development team, the marketing team, the community, we simply cannot predict these things are going to happen. I know a lot of time is given by the development team, with no income from ARO itself, even if you count transaction fees, as even if I send 1 million ARO, the fee is only ever going to be 10 ARO maximum. I myself give a hell of a lot of time to members, without any earnings myself, but it is what I do, it is my role within the ARO team.

So far the community have been outstanding in their support of ARO, and whilst there have been bumps along the way, the core community have stuck by us and continued being one of the best there is out there.  

 Overlode, i will start off by saying i have nothing but respect. You probably the only one in my opinion out of most of this so called marketing admin that deserves to be called that cos u always been really helpful but i will love to expand on some ideas from your post.

  First of all the admin had previously stated that Octaex choose to list Aro out of their own accordance and the dev team had not decision in the listing. So are we to believe that it was otherwise? cos even a member of the marketing team SLPTOME went as far a ridiculing members that lost money to the exchange  and stated that it was there fault for using a site that wasn't established.

  Secondly, you stated that the admin was aware of an individual abusing the cloud service and destroying the coin's value for awhile, and it took awhile of discussion before a decisive plan was implemented. Would it be fair to state that if the dev team actually invested their own personally funds into the coin when it maintained a stable price at 1000sat, that they wouldn't have waited around for months to let the individual abusing the cloud service decimate the price to the low 200, while accumulating enough coin to shoot to the top of the leaderboard before putting a plan into action?

  With mercatox, is it safe to say you guys have stated that trading will commence in the next few days several times, in the respective weeks? and is it fair for me to post a statement that since inception that this coin has only dealt with less than reliable exchanges? Also was it fair to receive a condescending reply from SLPTOME? and finally do i have the right to give a far more condescending reply to an ignorant member?

  I have stated several times that i have no problem with the tech but am not into the stay positive thru a hailstorm kumbaya bullshit espoused on the discord forum, especially when i have legit concerns that are all fact. When i slander the coin, then i will gladly accept a ban on discord but since my main account was banned for stating a plain facts and defending myself from another ignorant member, then i have no problem dishing the dirty topics in a public forum. Which keep in mind that thru the octaex bs, issues with algo, and the mercatox delay, i never came on this thread and spoke ill about this coin. However, if a project is created under the guise of it been a DECENTRALIZED, then am banned for clearly stating a proven fact/defending myself from comments made by one of the admins then i have a problem with that.

[Islapdonkey]

Can you tell me the exploit you are talking about in more detail? Or are you talking about the AWS / GCP cpu abuse done by zean and others? If it is the second one, I dont think it appropriate to define it as a fundamental flaw of Arionum, but a flaw of the cloud services.

 It was a flaw of the cloud services that was immediately identified by the general members and made visible to the dev team. An immediate update to the algo could have easily prevented the severe dump but they waited for months till the coin fell from a stable 1000 sat to lower 200 sat before implementing any change. To make matters worse, this wasn't a rewrite that needed several months to be implement rather its a week of work with a busy schedule, so it puzzles the shit out of me on why they waited to implement that change.

Well that's not really how a cryptocoin should work. If somebody find a way to get many hashes (like using Amazon Servers or another cloud service) he can use that. What if i did rent servers for 10k euro's a month, i invest a lot in the coin by mining. I would be pissed of if they block my transactions. It would be funny if people call my investment a botnet without any prove. Renting cloud servers is not a botnet. However, this cloud servers has a much smaller part in the mining system now. So on that way the aro team did there thing.

The fork what Arionum made was not a small one, the total system has changes from a 1 block mining system to a ''3'' block mining system, all together on the same blockchain. This coin started to be a CPU only coin, but if people are using Cloud Services to get a lot CPU power, many coins will be go to this whale(s). That was the reason why they should fix this. However, Arionum has proved themself to do everything good (as far as human people can do) in 1 time. Like this totally new mining system (1 cpu block, 1 gpu block) is a totaly new way of mining and totally regarding the ALGO what Arionum is using.

This shows also the big opportunities what Arionum (and the team behind it) have. They are making major steps, and yes i also told them to place that steps on this forum. This because many positive things are going on but the people on bitcointalk dont know about it. I never saw a strong community like this before on a cryptocoin. On discord everybody is helping when somebody has an issue or want to improve there mining speed. This algo is ''new'' for everybody and everybody is ready to help. Everybody can take part if it, everybody can ask and give help if needed Everybody can make suggestions to the dev team to make more options reality.
When i asked cuby (she is the woman behind the Arionum mobile app, cross platform wallet and the webwallet) to add some options, she add it directly (ofcourse it should have positive effects). In 3 hours i had an mobile wallet update what have positive inpacts to the mining system form the mobile wallet (like the screensaver to prevend burn-in on displays). In the past i tried to help with Ethereum and some other coins, 99% from the time you wont get any answer or they wont do nothing about your message. So yes it's sad when this aro team is doing so much, people still try to burn it down.


And ofcourse, i also started an discussion about this cloud service part with the Aro dev, i also asked why he just dont simply ban this Zean (this zean, i dont know if this a bad person.. His dumps are totally NOT big, in fact, he made also donations to the Aro fund!) and the answer was: we dont gonne regulate the coin and the price. This Zean (nobody know if he used scam accounts on Amazon/cloud) can be a fair person what have big trusts in Arionum, maybe that's why he invested to much in this coin.
After my conversation with the ARODEV i could say one thing: i agree with arodev.


If people have questions, ask them on a normall way and everybody get there answer on a normall way Lets being nice to each other and help eachother when needed (i think this is the strongest part from Arionum, inclusive the good dev team behind it what make many coin options reall what no other coin can ever have).

  Your angle is of no value,  cos they ended up switching the algo,  thus proving they knew and realized that it was been exploited from the beginning when the members brought it to their attention.  If the dev team had personal finances invested into the coin like some of us and it wasnt all gain for them, then they wouldn't have waited months to update that algo.  They wouldn't have sat around and comfortably watch the coin crash from a stable 1000 sat to 200 sat due to the action of one or few individuals. I will reiterate that the work done was a week job on a busy schedule. I have a sister that does this for a living and few friends that can attest to that.

 I have no issue with cuby, I think she is great but I don't believe in sugarcoating my opinion to stay positive thru some bullshit.  And what is a normal way to ask a question? All the points i stated that resulted in a ban were clearly facts. I dropped a few fbomb towards slptome a marketing (but not really marketing) guy who replied to my ist statement about issue's related to the coin still in maintenance two months post its due date by stating that "i sound like a broken record"
 
  Respect is earned not given cos you have some bullshit admin tag associated with your name.  I won't be surprised if i personally invested/ promoted the coin more than the aforementioned guy with the marketing tag,  whose only marketing tactic is to get on the board and talk about moon every once in awhile.  So yeah fuck him.

 Like I already stated there are more pressing issues that had yet to be dealt with or dealt with in extreme tardy fashion that speaks on professionalism rather than worrying about an f bomb on a forum.  

 As for the dumper, the coin has stayed in maintenance post the algo update,  so we don't know if his action will be curtailed.  One thing i know is that he was given the time to accumulate a hefty amount of coin and shoot to the top of the leader board even with the extensive dumping.  So,  he can choose to create masternodes and make a killing of that end while still killing the cpu side.  So if anything he is only limited on the gpu side, which is one part of a three sided equation.

Where do you see that 200 sats? U keep talking about 1000-> 200 sats drop. I can not find that price. And if we go further about this price...
The lowest ARO price is still higher then the big BTC dump. Many coins (like 99% from all coins) dropped harder then ARO. The ARO price is around the 400 sats so please stop using the number 200 oké?

The community is now waiting for Mercatox to open the doors (so withdraw/deposit) and watch what the price will do. This is why people are not ''pumping'', they are waiting. They can pump, because u can trade ARO/BTC. But you dont know what happen after thedoors go open. Nobody want to ''pump'' the price to 1k or 2k sats if you dont know what will happen when the doors open. Logical or logical? This is NOT because people are losing the trust (in fact, the community trust is getting more and more).

There are big BTC members involved in ARO, you dont need to worry about the 400 sats (almost the lowest price) what ARO is worth now. Yes on some other markets u see big pumps when a deposit/withdraw is closed. This price will fall to death when the wallets are open. At this point u see that the community is preparing for the doors open on mercatox.

 Dude you can't find that price because you haven't followed this coin since inception, you can choose to do a little more research, or ask other members that have been around before jumping the gun. At least have the full history of what you defending before you spend your time shilling/posing a defense. As for 200 sat, i have stated several times lower 200sat, so must be a mistake when i stated exactly 200sat, this coin was trading around 235 sat a drop from a stable price of 1000sat (again do your research) before the fork was announced, which bumped the price to upper 300s. Post the fork, the coin has been on maintenance and no one has been able to deposit, even the main dumper who destroyed the price is unable to deposit to sell, so currently the true value of the coin is biased.

 Also if you had more info about the history of the coin then you would know that aro exchange commenced post the btc drop and a baseline was achieved even post serious drop in BTC price. also you would have a clear reason/ backing support to show what destroyed the price. Just do a little more reason to help your shill

[OvErLoDe1]

I would like to correct a mistake, I thought that OctaEx was paid for with donations when in fact it was not, confusion on my part.

As for condescending replies from members of the team, I cannot comment as I did not see all the conversations you had before your ban. I am unwilling to comment on your ban, as that is something that is between yourselves and the Dev's, I am simply a marketing member looking to help ARO in any way I can. I have however seen some of your conversations, and I understand that this is a passionate issue for you, I understand you lost money, however I cannot accept that the ARO Dev team is responsible for listing on "unreliable" exchanges. At some point all the big exchanges were new and unknown, any one of them could have exit scammed. We simply provided a solution to the community that so badly wanted to be able to trade ARO.

With regards to us knowing about the cloud miners, yes we did know about it, but struggled to come up with a solution that was fair and in the best interests of the community. We believe we did come up with that solution, and yes, we will be criticised for the time taken to implement that solution, but it wasn't something that we came to lightly.

As with Mercatox, we can only go on what information we are given by them. We don't want to give no information at all to the community, so we keep them updated with what we ourselves are told.

Of course, you have a right to defend yourself in situations where you feel you have been ridiculed of had a less than favourable reply. Not knowing exactly what was said however, sometimes angry reactions to something you don't want to hear may not be the best course of action?