Do you mean this ann post?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=552630.0

Please don't turn into one of those insane trollers who come up with asinine reasons for a coin to supposedly be a scam.

I have wondered how long it'll take for some nation coins to get repeats... like a dozen Spain coins, etc. It's bound to happen more often, if this nation coin thing continues as it has been.

The 2nd Quebec Coin should just rename itself to something else, really. Canada Coin (although it again would be a repeat, as there is a failed Maple Coin already), Montreal (or some city in Quebec) coin... or just name it something else entirely. The latter is probably best, if you do release it.

I too question the logic of doing an IPO, but this coin (the 1st one... already getting confusing with too many Quebecs) is clearly superior due to the features borrowed from DarkCoin.

I think you are misunderstanding what extortion I am even referring to. I am not sure if you fully read my post. I was not referring to that one guy who posted here earlier in this thread.

The extortion I just referred to was this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=553124.msg6039800#msg6039800

As for lunacy, you can say it's not true. Perhaps it isn't.

I just thought it might be a good idea to alert people as to the fact that some that yell scam the loudest, may in fact be scamming others.

Edit: And I see the image has been taken down. As to what it said, a troll was trying to extort money from the dev, in order to get the troll to stop trolling.

More than once I have stated that people should educate others if they see a coin that looks shady, or is obviously a scam. I have posted myself in the ann subforums when I see something that looks fishy.

I'm not pro-scam coin. I'm against this group, however, and also disagree with those who automatically assume every coin is a scam, without a scam even being committed (AUR, for example).

And obviously I am against trolls extorting devs for money.

Free market does not equal criminal activity.

Someone making a taxi coin or some junk coin isn't committing a crime. It's a waste for a coin, but not a crime.  Extortion on the other hand, isn't quite the same as 'free market'.

Just to make things messier than they already are, there are claims of trolls trying to derail threads now, sole reason being to profit via extortion. That may explain why some trolls post non-stop in some threads, days on end... seemingly without a sane reason for doing so.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=553124.msg6039800#msg6039800

Some of those yelling 'scam' evidently are trying to scam other people. This place really is a cesspool.

That may explain why we have so many trolls shouting scam all over the place. Logically you'd think people would explain their arguments and post concerns in a rational manner. But I've seen threads where we get a troll posting non-stop, days on end, 24 hrs daily ... making up idiotic claims to just derail threads.

The assumption has been they are trying to drive down the price to buy in low, or are working for whales. Simple extortion... guess that is the game some are playing instead.

Although this entire forum has little to no moderation, I'd hope the moderators would ban such people (the insane trollers). From a legal standpoint, the forum could theoretically even be liable by allowing extortion to occur and not doing anything about it.

If I recall correctly, Payu already confirmed the CNN rumor. Whether or not that results in an actual news story, we shall see.

I expect the price to remain around where it is, until either miner rewards are changed (won't happen evidently), or news comes out. That rumored CNN thing about Maza could result in a nice spike.

But the only thing that would really lift the price up, longterm, is if Payu gets that signed paper saying the tribe has officially accepted the coin.

The problem with that argument, if you truly believe it, is why are you invested in any cryptos at all? If you believe there are no legit devs anywhere, maybe put money in a mutual fund, gold, silver, something else?

One reason I think legit devs don't complain against shit coins is the fact they believe in a free market. Which is the argument many people here believe in. They also don't believe in censorship or centralization. Even if we said, okay, let's limit the number of shitcoins coming out ... how could it possibly be done in a fair way? It can't. And it's probably not even possible to begin with.

A 'select' group of oldies choosing? That would cause more problems than shitcoins. One problem is the fact that many old accts here made their own shitcoins, and just having an old account here doesn't necessarily make the person an expert to begin with. Bias would be a problem for any group making a good/bad list of coins. A simple ex. A member who supports this group posted his own scamlist thread in this forum ... he included DarkCoin as a scam, because it was 'racist'. Umm... okay...

The only way shitcoin numbers could be reduced, at least in impact, is if exchanges limit how many they list. I assumed Cryptsy would be more particular, for instance. Yet they, and MintPal, seem to be going with the: 'pay us the most money, and get listed, regardless of how bad the coin is'. That is a problem, but no way for users of exchanges to really change things, besides voicing their opinions, that is.

And as for Doge, strangely their devs set the coin up to be used as a currency more so than many more established cryptos. I find the entire meme thing a bit moronic, personally, but that still doesn't mean Doge may be one of the cryptos left standing at the end.

Extremely accurate. Also accurate for Greececoin, MapleCoin, Mandarin Coin... all cookie cutter coins. And probably from the same devs.

Look at the ann for GreeceCoin and AustraliaCoin ... same font, country name highlighted in the same exact way.

And if Mandarin Coin isn't an April Fool's joke, look at its ann text -- 1st paragraph, then compare to ann for GreeceCoin. Same exact text, just the country name has been changed.

NYC has obviously a much larger area to cover, but definitely yes. I've been on both ... the ones in Montreal were so much cleaner and felt much, much safer.

If 10btc or less is enough for you, then I suppose you may feel it worthwhile. Just checking if your expectations were realistic. I chose Spartancoin to compare, just because it may have a wider appeal as far as investing goes, when compared to Quebec Coin -- not that it was a good coin.

And Montreal is bilingual-ish, or was, at least when I visited. Maybe I just had bad luck, but I found myself in some restaurants and places where all menus were in French, and the staff didn't speak much english. Not a big deal, as I could usually figure out enough to get by.

I just remember how nice their subways were... so nice and clean.

I would think BCX is the muscle, so to speak. And it appears like it was mostly a ruse to get the dev to fix an exploit. Or at least it seems that way. I am not sure if we will ever know all the details. It was sort of like a terrorist planting a bomb on a bridge, because it has a structural flaw... and threatening to kill everyone unless the bridge is fixed. A weird way to go about it, but... well, the flaw seems to have been fixed.

I wouldn't worry about anyone else here doing anything to AUR. The OP has questionable motives and a rather sketchy background with his own coins.

There is also that KingCoiny place, which hasn't opened yet. They do have a nice looking interface based on the info they've given out so far, though. And I like Poloniex, but I still don't quite feel safe leaving too many coins there. But I use them though for small trades.

And perhaps those in Quebec will look upon it differently than outsiders do. I just know to many, they will wonder why Quebec needs a coin. I visited Montreal a long time ago, and it is rather nice, by the way. The fact that French is the predominant language made ordering food a bit of an adventure, as I don't speak it ... but very nice city.

The IPO will be the sticking point with a lot of people. Out of curiosity, how much do you realistically expect to get via the IPO?

Look at something like SpartanCoin, which is doing an IPO. It has a business plan, and planned android/ios wallets. I think they have taken in a total of like 10 btc (not quite over yet, but close). I am just wondering if a couple of btc is worth the trouble for an IPO. Of course if you rake the money in, that argument would be moot ... but there are too many red flags I think to really get a lot of investments.

Just a suggestion, which you can ignore if you wish ... it's never really a good idea to dismiss people outright, or insult them -- especially if they are part of the group you are looking to invest in your coin.

He does bring up a valid point, in that patriotism alone really isn't enough of a differentiating factor for most people to say a Quebec Coin makes sense. I'm from the US, and personally am not really big on this patriotism mindset ... its just a form of tribalism. Quite often it turns into xenophobia and other nasty stuff like that.

However, if you focus on celebrating the culture of Quebec, rather than push the patriotism angle, it may do a bit better. At least to me it'd seem better, anyway.

Bittrex and Poloniex are the logical exchanges for new coins. That atomic-trade place is another one. They are sort of like the minor leagues for coins, before they move up to MintPal and Cryptsy.  Although I wouldn't worry so much about an exchange at this point.

I may be wrong, but I get the impression from some supporters in this movement that they believe people will instead put money into older cryptos (and most likely ones they own), if so many new alts weren't coming out. It's like... hey, why is litecoin going down, yet AUR getting so much money? Let's kill it, so people push litecoin up!

It of course doesn't work that way, but again, that is the feeling I get from some here.

It doesn't help that some people supporting this movement also made their own shitcoins, which they conveniently excluded from their kill list -- due to being older than some arbitrary date they made up.

Many threads do have rational arguments, both for and against. I guess I am just sick of seeing 'Scam' plastered all over without the person even saying why he feels a coin is a scam, gifs, and tons of trolling, when normal arguments would suffice and be more effective.

And yep,, I see you have been posting in that Quebec thread. That dev really, really needs to drop the IPO. For myself, I've posted both in the Australia Coin thread -- ann font/style is nearly the same as GreeceCoin's, leading me to believe they are the same devs. And also in Mandarin coin, which I believe is just an April Fool's joke at this point... as they literally copied Greece Coin's announcement info and just stuck the word 'China' in, instead of Greece. If not a joke, they are insanely lazy devs.

Hmm.. Quebec nationalism I suppose could be considered a somewhat valid reason for the coin, when I think more about it. I expect many may disagree (and many Canadians), but it does make some sense to a certain degree. I don't mean to say I think it's a great reason, just that it could be perceived as a reason.

The greece coin thing is a bit weird, as based on forum posts here, one team (Hellas coin) claims the Greece coin devs stole the idea. And they stated the Greek coin devs are AP/Boxxa, the ones who made maza and maple coin. So they do seem to be simply milking the idea of nation coins for all they are worth. Strangely Maza may have the best reason for having their own crypto, but Payu seems to be in over his head, and the devs he signed up are hardly professional.

Anyway, expect a lot of scam accusations due to the IPO thing. Even if on the level, it may hurt the coin in the longrun. It's hard enough for devs to even get the crowd to accept the 50% premine  without yelling scam.

I'm not quite sure what an orange topkek even is, but for some odd reason I want one now.

I'm eagerly awaiting a topkek to lel exchange. Forget btcs... the real money is in topkeks.