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2601  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: 2 AVA4.1s Won! [4400 TH] CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: March 09, 2015, 05:08:26 PM
Ohh ok. So it's residual. So if my TH fluctuates it will still stay at the high % but figured with the combined hash wor I have put in.

Thank you

Sorry to keep asking these questions, but I'm learning about all of this.  Cool

Glad to help.  Feel free to ask away... it's how you learn Smiley
2602  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: 2 AVA4.1s Won! [4400 TH] CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: March 09, 2015, 04:54:01 PM
Another question .  Wink

If I have multiple miners working in the pool at different locations and one or some go down, while others stay up, does that reset my increased pay rate like you mentioned, up to 500% on long hashes, or as long as one or more are active, still maintain my level?

Thanks
Your payouts are determined by the number of shares you submit, and how many you have in the current value of N when the block is found.  If your hash rate varies because some of your miners stop mining, your payouts reflect it.

Let's take an example.  Assume you've normally got 10TH/s mining on the pool.  Once you reach the 500% block time of mining (about 62 or so hours), and you maintain that constant hash rate, you'll receive 10TH/s worth of payouts per found block.  If you now drop to 5TH/s, you'll see your payouts become lower until such time that you start receiving 5TH/s worth of payouts per found block.

It's how PPLNS works - you ramp up and ramp down and your payouts reflect it.
2603  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Pure Solo Mining on: March 08, 2015, 05:59:48 PM
The main issue with running solo at home is the risk of losing the block.
This.  You can mitigate it by having a very well connected bitcoind running and using Matt's relay as well, but why take the added risk on top of an already slim chance you're going to find a block anyway?

However, if you really do want to run something locally, ckpool is very easy to setup and run (assuming you've got a Linux box).
2604  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: 2 AVA4.1s Won! [4400 TH] CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: March 08, 2015, 05:52:56 PM
346736 stays here Smiley

And at the risk of splitting hairs with philipma1957... N is about 61 hours, not 80, given the current pool's hash rate of 4.56PH/s


yes it varies and 61 or 62 hours  is up to date. for 4.5 ph
Hey, you've got the Legendary tag... don't know how long you've had it, but it's the first time I've noticed.  Congrats Smiley
2605  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: 2 AVA4.1s Won! [4400 TH] CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: March 08, 2015, 04:53:52 PM
346736 stays here Smiley

And at the risk of splitting hairs with philipma1957... N is about 61 hours, not 80, given the current pool's hash rate of 4.56PH/s
2606  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: 2 AVA4.1s Won! [4400 TH] CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: March 08, 2015, 03:56:50 PM
Ok... stupid question for a Sunday morning...

When I look at the CDF value, and let's say it shows as 0.72.  Does that translate to, "72% of all blocks are found at or below this number of shares"?

Example - block 346502 took 59,046,078,720 shares of an expected 46,684,376,316 giving us 126.48%.  This block shows a CDF of 0.72.

Is my understanding correct?
Yes. Well the wording is that you would expect to average 72% of blocks below 126.48%
Thanks... here in the US we all lost an hour's sleep last night due to the switch to daylight savings time... and I hadn't had any coffee yet Smiley
2607  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: 2 AVA4.1s Won! [4400 TH] CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: March 08, 2015, 03:28:19 PM
Ok... stupid question for a Sunday morning...

When I look at the CDF value, and let's say it shows as 0.72.  Does that translate to, "72% of all blocks are found at or below this number of shares"?

Example - block 346502 took 59,046,078,720 shares of an expected 46,684,376,316 giving us 126.48%.  This block shows a CDF of 0.72.

Is my understanding correct?
2608  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: 2 AVA4.1s Won! [4400 TH] CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: March 08, 2015, 02:46:37 PM
hello,
i am new in the pool and i am not sure how the rewards are.
I have about 42 Ths, so when mining control panel shows i am about 0.9% of the pools
so i imagine that when get a block i will get a 0.9% (about 0,22btc each block) , but the blocks found today i only see on rewards giving to me 0,04 btc.
what happens ? where go the rest of my btc ?

thanks

When did you start mining on this pool with that 42TH/s?
2609  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Jumping between pools as they slow down? on: March 08, 2015, 02:43:43 PM
It depends on which pool your on just how bad you get hurt. As on Slush or p2pool if you hop off you can very well lose all your work and get paid zero for your shares.
In stead of pool hoping you can just split your miners up between a couple of pools makes more sense.
P2Pool is PPLNS, so you only lose your work once N has passed.  This is why PPLNS discourages pool hopping, because it takes you N to ramp up to your fully expected payout.  P2Pool can make it seem even worse since you could feasibly mine there for quite some time without getting a share onto the chain.

@thedreamer - you are always going to see variance in your payouts no matter where you mine.  Sure, you'll have days where you make 1/3 of expectations.  Then you'll have days where you make 500%.  It's the nature of the beast.
2610  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining! 29 blocks solved! on: March 06, 2015, 07:47:35 PM
Silly question within the same difficulty period does it have any difference that
you rent for instance 200 ths for one hour or 400ths for 30mins
No, you calculate the same number of hashes.

edit: and ofcourse congrats to the new blockfinder!

I don't think the answer is that simple, because you have to factor in the number of blocks you're working to solve as well.  You'll have the same number of hashes spread out over more blocks with 200/1, whereas 400/.5 will have that number of hashes over half as many blocks, so twice as many hash calcs per block.  Therefore you should have a better chance with more power over a shorter duration.

Gws24 is right, what matters is the number of hashes you calculate.  The number of blocks on which you work won't do a difference on the chance of finding a valid hash.  The number of hashes makes a difference.


Correct.  Assume for a moment that you control the entire hash rate of the network right now and that hash rate remains constant.  By design you should find a block every 10 minutes.  If you control 1/6th of the network, you should find a block every hour, etc.  Statistically if you rent 2.321PH/s for 24 hours or 1.16PH/s for 48 hours, you'd expect to find 1 block.

EDIT: Note, this assumes there is no change in network difficulty during this time frame.
2611  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: 2 AVA4.1s Won! [4400 TH] CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: March 06, 2015, 07:36:02 PM
Why don't the amounts I'm receiving as listed by "bitcoin-cli listtransactions"  match the payments listed in https://kano.is/index.php?k=payments ?
I can't see your "bitcoin-cli listtransactions"

However as the Payments page says on it "The payments below don't yet show when they have been sent."
The payments show up on the "Payments" page before they are sent.
I say in here when I have sent them.
They are sent after the block reaches +101

It's the same as listed at https://blockchain.info/address/13HPyx1B67C9KTrbHTEeJBYCVE2bhTnBnE

since starting in this pool (with an account) I have received
 
transactions
0.00218105    2015-03-04 23:20:52
0.00507784    2015-03-05 16:16:25
0.00889775    2015-03-06 02:14:25
0.01058881    2015-03-06 07:14:48

but, the payments listed in CKPool Payments don't match any of them, nor do any combination of them add up to the same number that I can find, so, what's the diff about?

CKpool Payments
0.00022625
0.00402624
0.00565353
0.00882940
0.01025143
0.01027603



I see everything matches on my end.  Here's a screenshot of the payments showing the past 10 confirmed payouts (blocks 345517 to 346279):



Here's the same 10 transactions in my wallet:



2612  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: NastyPoP vs Standard P2Pool on: March 06, 2015, 07:14:27 PM
Another lousy luck week for p2pool in general - 7 day luck shows 51.98%.  2 blocks found.  My S3 running with p2pool payouts was all over the board during the week at one point expecting to get nearly 0.02BTC if a block were found... to 0.003BTC per block.  Unfortunately, when the blocks were found, it had fewer than expected shares on the chain and the results suffer for it.  My S3 running with NastyPoP actually made more than I thought it would.  Here are the week's results:

2/27 - 3/6
NastyPoP - 0.02048889BTC
NastyP2P - 0.00942830BTC
Expected - 0.0332BTC
Luck - 51.98%

OP updated.
2613  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: How do i ping europe.p2pool.co:9332 ? on: March 06, 2015, 03:45:15 PM
Where do i type that in ?

I want to find the nearest/fastest p2pool to me.
When using the ping command, you don't put in the port... just the IP address or name:
Code:
ping europe.p2pool.co

http://nodes.p2pool.co works pretty well to show you the closest node to you, and provides a scored ranking system.

Thanks, why can't  ping the nearest node to me ? It times out ?

Pinging p2Pool.org works with an an average of 58ms


Cheers
Well, it could be that the node is offline... or maybe the node blocked ICMP traffic, which would render it unreachable to ping requests.
2614  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: How do i ping europe.p2pool.co:9332 ? on: March 05, 2015, 10:35:31 PM
Where do i type that in ?

I want to find the nearest/fastest p2pool to me.
When using the ping command, you don't put in the port... just the IP address or name:
Code:
ping europe.p2pool.co

http://nodes.p2pool.co works pretty well to show you the closest node to you, and provides a scored ranking system.
2615  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] Alien Faucet - 4010 Satoshi an HOUR (limited) on: March 05, 2015, 03:49:36 PM
This is the THIRD time i am getting a S'ru'un alien with a 300 satoshi reward.

Can someone explain this?
If this a special alien then where is the code ?  Huh

Date:3/5/15.
Just got another one... are these replacing frogs?

Edit: I guess they are.  Here's the latest list of aliens:

2616  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] Alien Faucet - 4010 Satoshi an HOUR (limited) on: March 05, 2015, 03:23:42 PM
I have a doubt.   Huh

I killed a S’ru’un alien now on 3rd March 2015.
Though it is not shown in your normal 5 aliens, so if this is a special alien then why didnt i get any code, or bonus.
All i got was 300 satoshi.

Here is the screenshot's link as a proof:

http://img42.com/kRek5+

Please clarify.


I was just about to post the same...

2617  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: March 04, 2015, 11:00:23 PM
Oh p2pool is a nasty mistress... Rent a bunch of hash and no blocks for 8 days... All shares fall off the chain... Find 2 blocks.
2618  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: March 03, 2015, 12:42:55 PM
The bitcoin developers are effectively against p2pool since they are against micropayments.

Yes, I'm cherry picking the quote to respond to, and the rest I will get back with you on later, but this statement simply is not fair or true.
The lowest payment on the last block was 0.00168945 BTC
i.e. 0.68% of the pool.
If the pool was 1.5PHs that's 10.2THs
Thus 1THs would be ~0.00017 BTC
As difficulty goes up, 1THs payout goes down ...

I take it you think that 1THs is too small to mine on p2pool?

That's not entirely accurate... p2pool calculates share value based upon the weight of the share, which is directly affected by the share difficulty compared to the network minimum difficulty when the share was found.  You are paid for however many weighted shares you have on the payout list when the block is found.  There are far more miners on p2pool with less than 10TH/s than there are with more than that hash rate.  For example, I've got a single S3 that mines on p2pool at 440GH/s.  You can see my payouts over time for that rig.  As an example, the last block, that rig made 0.00996171BTC.
2619  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: 2 AVA4.1s Won! [4000 TH] CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: March 01, 2015, 04:51:52 PM
Payout 345056 sent
add460813e348dd2b639e184303d58bf34632f36a2cebf92f5b67bdc8ed6aaf7
and confirmed


thank you
... and the code to allow me to add web pages to show that on the web site is very close to completion (it's in testing) Smiley
Although the information has always been there, I'm completing adding in the summarisation of that information into the appropriate tables so that web requests will be quick and thus possible.
Once testing is completed and I put it live, I'll then work on adding more web pages to show payout/payment/performance details.


As a new miner I would appreciate some better stats for payout/payment/performance. I have tried to figure out the payment system and I am totally lost. The guy I bought my miner from said to use this pool, so I am sticking with it. Right now I have been mining for 2 days @1.5Th and have recieved $1.16. I am hoping this keeps going up otherwise the math ain't working. Trying to hang in there.
This is a PPLNS pool with a 5x network difficulty ramp time.  In other words, it'll take you longer than the 2 days you've been mining to reach the full clip.  Have a bit of patience Smiley.
2620  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: BITMAIN announces Antpool: Pushing forward Decentralization on: March 01, 2015, 03:28:54 PM
BITMAIN,

Please change the title of this thread to, "BITMAIN Announces Antpool: the Second Largest Centralized Pool"

Also, update all posts in the thread to remove any and all references to supporting p2pool and decentralization, especially the one IYFTech has quoted.

Thanks.
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