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[aurel57]

Ugh. Stuck at another looong block. :facepalm:.

no no not so fast 346616 stays here

Yeah after 22hours.. Ugh.

LOL - I wonder if there's too much information on the web site when a 163% block is called a 'looong block'
The CDF shows that 1/5 of blocks are expected to be longer than that.

well 163% is like me.  At 6 foot even I am the beginning of 'tall'

So it would be the beginning of long.

In basketball you would be short... in horse racing you would be very tall!

[1715067894]

1715067894

[philipma1957]

Ugh. Stuck at another looong block. :facepalm:.

no no not so fast 346616 stays here

Yeah after 22hours.. Ugh.

LOL - I wonder if there's too much information on the web site when a 163% block is called a 'looong block'
The CDF shows that 1/5 of blocks are expected to be longer than that.

well 163% is like me.  At 6 foot even I am the beginning of 'tall'

So it would be the beginning of long.

In basketball you would be short... in horse racing you would be very tall!

  and in the usa I am just the beginning of tall  as is my wife at 5 ft 6.5 inches.

  not average.  like a 85 to 115% block is kind of average

under 85% is the beginning of a short block time  .

not sure what to call 115 to 150%

[kano]

...

well 163% is like me.  At 6 foot even I am the beginning of 'tall'

So it would be the beginning of long.

In basketball you would be short... in horse racing you would be very tall!

 and in the usa I am just the beginning of tall  as is my wife at 5 ft 6.5 inches.

  not average.  like a 85 to 115% block is kind of average

under 85% is the beginning of a short block time  .

not sure what to call 115 to 150%

To give them average expected percentages

CDF Values (for given Diff%)
 0.5726   85%
 0.6321  100%
 0.6834  115%
 0.7769  150%

So:
57.3% of blocks are expected to be below 85%Diff
63.2% of blocks are expected to be below 100%Diff
11.1% of blocks are expected to be between 85%Diff and 115%Diff
68.3% of blocks are expected to be below 115%Diff
9.4% of blocks are expected to be between 115%Diff and 150%Diff
77.7% of blocks are expected to be below 150%Diff
22.3% of blocks are expected to be above 150%Diff

P.S. I'm only just under 6 foot - lost a little as I got older

[Beachguy]

The "Rewards" info is a nice touch. Thank you.

[pekatete]

Something to write home about ... negative workers! What gremlins are wrecking this havoc?

[Thub]

Something to write home about ... negative workers! What gremlins are wrecking this havoc?

http://s7.postimg.org/wr6y2ull7/kanoneg.png

Sudden death by the looks of it. It is now up to -268. Every refresh sends it up even more!

[chentron]

hello,
i am new in the pool and i am not sure how the rewards are.
I have about 42 Ths, so when mining control panel shows i am about 0.9% of the pools
so i imagine that when get a block i will get a 0.9% (about 0,22btc each block) , but the blocks found today i only see on rewards giving to me 0,04 btc.
what happens ? where go the rest of my btc ?

thanks

[jonnybravo0311]

hello,
i am new in the pool and i am not sure how the rewards are.
I have about 42 Ths, so when mining control panel shows i am about 0.9% of the pools
so i imagine that when get a block i will get a 0.9% (about 0,22btc each block) , but the blocks found today i only see on rewards giving to me 0,04 btc.
what happens ? where go the rest of my btc ?

thanks

When did you start mining on this pool with that 42TH/s?

[kano]

hello,
i am new in the pool and i am not sure how the rewards are.
I have about 42 Ths, so when mining control panel shows i am about 0.9% of the pools
so i imagine that when get a block i will get a 0.9% (about 0,22btc each block) , but the blocks found today i only see on rewards giving to me 0,04 btc.
what happens ? where go the rest of my btc ?

thanks

Well I'll explain it, but first mention:
Imagine you connected 900TH/s to the pool for 10 minutes and the pool found a block - would you expect to get 1/5 of the block (since 900TH/s is 1/5 of 4500TH/s), or a much smaller fraction of it based on how much work you put into the block compared to everyone else?

Now back to your actual rewards:
As the Rewards page says, each block's reward "N Range" is over 61hours.
That 60+ hours is the last 500%Diff shares submitted before the block.
Each block rewards all the shares in the 500%Diff before the block was found.
So if you mined non-stop for 30.75hours of the 61.5hours the block rewards, then you would expect to get a reward matching half your hash rate.

How the payouts actually work is that every share in the 500%Diff range before the block is rewarded.
So each share reward is ~1/5 of it's PPS value.
However, on average each share will be rewarded 5 times.
So on average, each share will be rewarded (99.1% of) it's PPS value over the (currently) ~61.5hours after the share is submitted.
That of course is the expected average. Pool luck changes that up or down depending upon the luck AFTER the share is submitted.

[kano]

Payout 346616 sent
d734dcfb338a2065781fb995715112410292be0ea17dc66eb6cd4526b2a1bd3e
and confirmed

[sorry2xs]

Something to write home about ... negative workers! What gremlins are wrecking this havoc?

what does -761 workers means


CKPool:     4,538.69THs
Shares:     11,237,348,937 (24.07%)
Invalid:     25,551,871 (0.227%)
Last    Block
Pool:     3h (346708)
Network:     2m 14s (346724)
Users:     128
Workers:     -791
killowatts
Hash Rate:?GHs

[jonnybravo0311]

Ok... stupid question for a Sunday morning...

When I look at the CDF value, and let's say it shows as 0.72.  Does that translate to, "72% of all blocks are found at or below this number of shares"?

Example - block 346502 took 59,046,078,720 shares of an expected 46,684,376,316 giving us 126.48%.  This block shows a CDF of 0.72.

Is my understanding correct?

[kano]

Ok... stupid question for a Sunday morning...

When I look at the CDF value, and let's say it shows as 0.72.  Does that translate to, "72% of all blocks are found at or below this number of shares"?

Example - block 346502 took 59,046,078,720 shares of an expected 46,684,376,316 giving us 126.48%.  This block shows a CDF of 0.72.

Is my understanding correct?

Yes. Well the wording is that you would expect to average 72% of blocks below 126.48%

[kano]

Something to write home about ... negative workers! What gremlins are wrecking this havoc?

http://s7.postimg.org/wr6y2ull7/kanoneg.png

what does -761 workers means


CKPool:     4,538.69THs
Shares:     11,237,348,937 (24.07%)
Invalid:     25,551,871 (0.227%)
Last    Block
Pool:     3h (346708)
Network:     2m 14s (346724)
Users:     128
Workers:     -791
killowatts
Hash Rate:?GHs

It means there's a (new) bug in the worker counting in ckpool
I prefer to not restart the pool to reset the count of workers, since it doesn't actually affect anything.
I'll remove it for now to avoid the confusion it causes (until it's fixed)

If banned the IP address that was causing it also.

[pekatete]

It means there's a (new) bug in the worker counting in ckpool
I prefer to not restart the pool to reset the count of workers, since it doesn't actually affect anything.
I'll remove it for now to avoid the confusion it causes (until it's fixed)

If banned the IP address that was causing it also.

Wow! Someone can actually cause that on purpose .... !?
Another "compounding / cum rounding" (?) bug? Splitting hairs really, but I make that to be a total of 0.074 (it does flare up the other way too!)

[kano]

It means there's a (new) bug in the worker counting in ckpool
I prefer to not restart the pool to reset the count of workers, since it doesn't actually affect anything.
I'll remove it for now to avoid the confusion it causes (until it's fixed)

If banned the IP address that was causing it also.

Wow! Someone can actually cause that on purpose .... !?
Another "compounding / cum rounding" (?) bug? Splitting hairs really, but I make that to be a total of 0.074 (it does flare up the other way too!)

http://s1.postimg.org/me0atqqz3/kanotot.png

Rounding.
e.g. 0.4 + 0.4 = 0.8
rounded to 0 decimals
0 + 0 = 1

[jonnybravo0311]

Ok... stupid question for a Sunday morning...

When I look at the CDF value, and let's say it shows as 0.72.  Does that translate to, "72% of all blocks are found at or below this number of shares"?

Example - block 346502 took 59,046,078,720 shares of an expected 46,684,376,316 giving us 126.48%.  This block shows a CDF of 0.72.

Is my understanding correct?

Yes. Well the wording is that you would expect to average 72% of blocks below 126.48%

Thanks... here in the US we all lost an hour's sleep last night due to the switch to daylight savings time... and I hadn't had any coffee yet

[pekatete]

Rounding.
e.g. 0.4 + 0.4 = 0.8
rounded to 0 decimals
0 + 0 = 1

At the risk of "knocking on about it", I think that may mask something else .... I now have a total of 0.076 whereas it adds up to 0.074
I think that fits the description of a compounded rounding error!



Been a while since I did any useful maths, but I can not remember off my head being able to round up 2 units .... (I should again stress here that this is simply splitting hairs!).

[philipma1957]

hello,
i am new in the pool and i am not sure how the rewards are.
I have about 42 Ths, so when mining control panel shows i am about 0.9% of the pools
so i imagine that when get a block i will get a 0.9% (about 0,22btc each block) , but the blocks found today i only see on rewards giving to me 0,04 btc.
what happens ? where go the rest of my btc ?

thanks

it takes about 80 hours to get a full share.   based on your info  you do not have 80 hours yet.

500% is what he uses  you need to have 500% in.    right now diff is 46xxxxx    so every 46xxxxx is 100 %   .  about 80 hours.

on the good end when you leave the pool you keep shares for 80 hours(estimate)  they slowly vanish to 0 .

[jonnybravo0311]

346736 stays here

And at the risk of splitting hairs with philipma1957... N is about 61 hours, not 80, given the current pool's hash rate of 4.56PH/s