If secure decentralized networks are realy NP-hard then you cannot say how long it will take for them to be what you need them to be.
It means they are hard at some unknown magnitude.
Being optimistic doesnt change this.
Maybe a little faith. edit: if they are going to be solved, the bitcoin community is the environment where it is going to happen. I think we all have faith that bitcoin can and will be something better or we wouldn't be here. Keep up the good work! |
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No, because retropcdos's scammer tag was removed I'm assuming that Theymos thought retropcdos was BTC Guy but now that his scamer tag is removed retropcdos must have been a victim of BTC Guy as he claimed.
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Dwolla and MT Gox USD Code available (fee)
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In spite of all the FUD in the the many multiples drama posts, I actually prefer the trading forum here. I trust the other party within reason and I go out of my way to trade with newbees to give the a good, honest, reliable trading experience despite the calls of "scammer" from other members as soon as a newbee posts a request for a trade.
I never once even thought about an investment with pirate or a PPT and MNW has been on my ignore list since before the bitcoinica debacle. I've pulled my coins out of Bitcoinica before the hack. And I currently hold a zero balance in Intersango (waiting...)
Never been scammed by a newbee (though I've had bad trades twice with two "hero" members). Don't care if its bitcoin, us dollar or persian rugs. All market places are the same. Use common sense, decide who to trust and don't risk what you can't afford to loose.
And I've never used escrow.
It's all a matter of the choices you make. Our (US) society has come to so heavily rely on "others" (gov't/state/big business) to protect/take care/look out for us that it seems we are not longer capable of fending for ourselves.
These concerns here are more a comment on our contemporary digital society then they are on the bitcoin community.
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Maybe you could start a thread for each of those business to counteract the forum spamming by the multiple Pirate/NMW threads! Maybe they could start their own forum. I think that is coming.... Others have tried, but I there is more incentive and interest now. |
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Businesses should not be run from this forum.
We came to the same conclusion in another thread. This forum should specialize in discussion. It would probably do a better job without the marketplace. If someone was to start a discussion in the meta sub forum, I would support it. Interesting. What is the other thread? |
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Great work guys! This is definitely the kind of news bitcoin needs. Maybe you could start a thread for each of those business to counteract the forum spamming by the multiple Pirate/NMW threads! Would love to learn more about those businesses. Don't see a list on your site.
Thanks.
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Gareth,
Great points. Your post brings up a few issues.
1. I think this forum is becoming a bit of a cesspool, with the the HYIP, Pirate, MNW threads. There is even a very active thread calling for more civliity so it is obviously something that is greatly desired here.
2. Drama makes great press so we are never going to prevent bad PR ever. Look at the hazing big banks are getting today.
3. The bad press is actually a great smoke screen for bitcoin. Eventually some of this technology is going to emerge and solve some of these problems and that will be the big new news story. In the mean time, everyone (including govn't and regulators) will keep looking the other way and right now that's not a bad thing while bitcoin is trying to get its act together. The recent price stablilty says to me that we are one our way.
4. Finally, what are the bitcoin business doing collectively to make this a better, safer community. It's a shame what happened to bitfloor and yes mistakes were make but what if MT. GOX, and BitFloor and Bit Instant and Bitpay and the Dev team etc shared best security practices and encourage some type of collective collaboration in spite of being competitors (or is that already happening in the background). I would think the success of everyone's business would mean a more robust economy for everyone.
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Forum logs all activity event deleted post.
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umm, now BTCguy forum name not found and no posts?!?!
Hmmmm...... |
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So retropcdos is NOT a scammer now?? What happened there??
it is possible he is telling the truth. BTCguy just made a thread here yesterday saying how is sorry for ripping everyone off, blah, blah, etc.... Yes, I saw that too. Just trying to figure out what happened. Theymos won't usually give someone a scammer tag unless there is pretty solid proof, but now that his scammer tag is gone I curious what happened. |
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So retropcdos is NOT a scammer now?? What happened there??
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Did you contact support?
PM
Yankee
or
Gareth (BitInstant)
They both follow this board.
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With a nic like Pirate??!! You can't be serious. Now for the kid, I was on the fence right up until my BTC payment hit.
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Please forgive my noobish ignorance... but I would never give BTC to a user with the name "pirate."  You'd think some of these quys would be smarter then that! |
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