Bye ignored...like the rest of your troll patrol!  They're just not totally srs pro traders like you and I. bye...ignored hyperjacked = shroomskit?  ?  |
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[4] Don't argue with JayJuanGee. I think he has Assburgers.
He does seem testy, now that he's about to break even. I wouldn't want to be caught in a dark alley with him now that he's high on his winnings. That's what she said... hahahahahaha  |
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If someone spent millions of dollars putting up walls on 3 exchanges, that is a very expensive trap to set. Those walls are real. Price jumped last night, and people want to take profit.
Or the whales could intend to buy their own coins to get the price up and get the fomo rolling. They have lots of coins to dump at an even greater profit. I opened a short at 446, and I am glad I did. Closed the short at 443. If it dips lower, I will start leveraging long again. Don't you guys wish you were as cool as me? Too many John Wayne around, proof or it didn't happen. Read my post history. I have been stating my positions since Friday night, when I announced I was shorting an hour before the crash. Check the times on my posts, then check the charts for the moves. I haven't been wrong in a prediction yet. I remember you crying about about your short position 6-7 hours before the crash. I remember how you where thinking to close your short. I remember how you where desperately asking for advice. I remember how you got arrogant when it crashed and how you where right. You have had this additud ever since. I must say I liked you more when you where loosing. At least you where humble then. Exactamente!!!!!! You remember that I was right about predicting the biggest correction the market has seen all month an hour before it happened. It doesn't mean shit that I was open-minded enough to listen to suggestions when the market was at it's peak. It doesn't matter if you like me or not. What matters is I made money, and judging by your attitude (ADDitude, lol anybody else catch the freudian slip there?) I would bet that you didn't. I'm NOT in a competition with anyone participating in these threads in an attempt to call the market, you self-aggrandizing delusional imbecile. In fact my BTC trading does not really rely on calling the market in the short term but I attempt to spot overall trends and to take advantage of such overall trends without getting too greedy. I buy when the price goes down and I sell when the price goes up and I adjust the quantity and timing... but I am not really attempting to call anything short-term except I do want to have enough fiat to buy when the price goes down and to have enough BTC to sell when its going up - and my overall presumption is that BTC is going to go up and up and up and my goal is to accumulate BTC without being too risky to my overall financial situation (and I am not competing... hellrow with you are anyone else participating in these threads regarding whether any of my observations are correct or not. You seem to have quite the tendency to attempt to garner attention and to get credit for stupid little things and then to reframe history to fit your needs for attention. |
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If someone spent millions of dollars putting up walls on 3 exchanges, that is a very expensive trap to set. Those walls are real. Price jumped last night, and people want to take profit.
Or the whales could intend to buy their own coins to get the price up and get the fomo rolling. They have lots of coins to dump at an even greater profit. I opened a short at 446, and I am glad I did. Closed the short at 443. If it dips lower, I will start leveraging long again. Don't you guys wish you were as cool as me? Too many John Wayne around, proof or it didn't happen. Read my post history. I have been stating my positions since Friday night, when I announced I was shorting an hour before the crash. Check the times on my posts, then check the charts for the moves. I haven't been wrong in a prediction yet. I remember you crying about about your short position 6-7 hours before the crash. I remember how you where thinking to close your short. I remember how you where desperately asking for advice. I remember how you got arrogant when it crashed and how you where right. You have had this additud ever since. I must say I liked you more when you where loosing. At least you where humble then. Exactamente!!!!!! |
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Look at those walls, bulls. Market buy after market buy and the price is actually going Down. Now's you chance to buy with minimum slippage. Bears are placing limit orders to minimize slippage. That's what we have to do with the bid order book so thin. GTFO..... You are a bit pathetic, acting like bears have some kind of control over the current BTC price situation, and you happen to be in that "aware" group. You seem to have little to no clue if you are desperately still thinking that betting against the current trend is going to make you a killin. Yes, you may get lucky, but really you seem to have little to no clue. So, why don't you let up a bit with the pompous ass crap in talking your book |
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Recently Coinbase has been engaging in various promotionals to lower fees and increase their volume, so it should be no secret NOR conspiracy that their volume would likely increase, in part, because of their promotional efforts.
Kids say the darnedest things.  ^ https://cryptowat.ch/coinbase/btcusd/4hWhy don't you engage a bit about the point that you are attempting to make rather than merely employing a patronizing tone?   'Engage a bit'? You mean that huge red spike that pops out of nowhere to tower over everything else ain't enough? Must've been pretty awesome 'promotional efforts,' like 'Trade one 1 BTC, get 10 BTC free!' Well, I am glad that you are capable of words, beyond mere apparent attempts at denigration. I, for one, do not claim to know everything in the bitcoin space, and I am merely attempting to contribute to the conversation in this thread. Sometimes, I become a bit jaded myself when I view multiple postings that do not appear to be considering plausible and reasonable explanations for strange events, but instead appear to take advantage of situations to devolve the conversation into outrageous proclamations and as exaggerations and attempts to find conspiracies everywhere. Surely I believe that there are a multitude of varying degrees of insiders attempting various manipulations and attempts to make easy money, but not every strange occurrence is clearly explained as a pure manipulation and without plausible fair dealings, at least part of the explanation. Yes, the spike seems quite an anomaly. |
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Recently Coinbase has been engaging in various promotionals to lower fees and increase their volume, so it should be no secret NOR conspiracy that their volume would likely increase, in part, because of their promotional efforts.
Kids say the darnedest things. ^ https://cryptowat.ch/coinbase/btcusd/4hWhy don't you engage a bit about the point that you are attempting to make rather than merely employing a patronizing tone? |
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So anybody knows wtf is happening at Coinbase I also would like to hear people's wisdom on this. Don't keep large amounts of bitcoins on your bitcoin exchange account. Don't forget MtGox. Sooner or later, one way or another, your bitcoins will be confiscated by panicking state or quasi-state actors. Or, just, you know ...vanish with no state intervention whatsoever. Like they did on Gox. And Bitfunder. And... Recently Coinbase has been engaging in various promotionals to lower fees and increase their volume, so it should be no secret NOR conspiracy that their volume would likely increase, in part, because of their promotional efforts. And, look at the below link also, https://bitcoinity.org/markets/list?currency=ALL&span=24hCoinbase has moved up in volume, they have removed some fees (on the buying side) they have promoted their lowered fees, and they have likely been successful in attracting high volume players but they are no where near the volumes of O.k coin and huobi |
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So anybody knows wtf is happening at Coinbase I also would like to hear people's wisdom on this. Don't keep large amounts of bitcoins on your bitcoin exchange account. Don't forget MtGox. Sooner or later, one way or another, your bitcoins will be confiscated by panicking state or quasi-state actors. Or, just, you know ...vanish with no state intervention whatsoever. Like they did on Gox. And Bitfunder. And... Recently Coinbase has been engaging in various promotionals to lower fees and increase their volume, so it should be no secret NOR conspiracy that their volume would likely increase, in part, because of their promotional efforts. |
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I wonder when the "I buy the dip" mentality stops and we have the next retrace  Don't hold your breath. Otherwise, we may lose another bear trolltard to suffocation.  |
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You are goofy in your attempts to analyze me and/or my situation and attempting to extrapolate from me concerning what a typical bull may look like.
Surely, in my strings of posts on this forum, I have provided a considerable amount of information about me, my bitcoin investing history and my evolving views on various bitcoin related investment topics - nonetheless, you still cannot know my situation sufficiently in order to generalize that my situation is reflective of some "type" of BTC investor that needs to be weeded out. you are a fuck-head for suggesting such, and you are a pretentious ass to be using the royal "we" to assert that you are in some group that is somehow distinguishable and better.
There going to be all kinds of people who sell their bitcoins as the price goes up and there will be additional folks and institutions jumping on board too.
Don't worry, you pretentious ass, TReano, there are plenty of bitcoins to go around, as long as you are either on board now, or you are planning to jump on board in the near future in the sub $500s price arena.
dude watch your language. Seems like you have to ask your mother again how to behave in public... Nobody is interested in a discussion like that. /ignore kk thx bye Who died and put you in charge of language and/or expression of substantive comments,. you fucken goof tard? Your slinging out stupid and non-substantiated assertions, and then your failure and refusal to engage to defend your stupid-ass comments tends to establish that you are likely disingenuous and in a weak, if not non-existent, position regarding your own lame assertions. |
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here's my back of the envelope... First bubble to $3-$5k. Correction to $1.5k. Second bubble to $12-$18k Correction to $7k-ish... maybe all of this could occur within the next 18 months, but it does not seem likely that there is going to be enough upcoming mass adoption to sustain any bull market for a "few years"
Bitcoin doesn't need "mass adoption" for its value to skyrocket. I concede on that point; however, as adoption increases, we are going to witness more and more increases in bitcoin's infrastructure developments and BTC price is going to continue to rise under basic supply and demand analysis. I was addressing your point that we would need sustained influx of users to support a multi-year bull market. We only need a couple more trading desks Yeah, but what about the thrust of my argument, and that is really an assertion that we do not have a history, in bitcoin, of long and sustained bull markets, and I really cannot see a long and sustainable bull market in bitcoin in the very near future ... not with the current state of Bitcoin's development... on the other hand, a few years down the road, the bitcoin space may be ready for a longer and more sustained bull run (of even a few years) |
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here's my back of the envelope... First bubble to $3-$5k. Correction to $1.5k. Second bubble to $12-$18k Correction to $7k-ish... maybe all of this could occur within the next 18 months, but it does not seem likely that there is going to be enough upcoming mass adoption to sustain any bull market for a "few years"
Bitcoin doesn't need "mass adoption" for its value to skyrocket. right... It just needs a reasonable believes that we could reach "mass adoptions" to make the price skyrock. When we are at "Mass adoptions" the price will start dropping again. Because the price is a representation of future speculations and not of the current value... You can see this effect on the USD Dollar Value. The rise and therefor the speculation on a rate hike started almost 1.5 years ago. Now the USD looks like topping out and consolidating / falling a bit. It's going to be really really interesting how Markets are going to react after they really hike the rates after ~9 years. Really exciting times are ahead of us. you seem to have a penchant for spreading disinformation or saying the opposite of what is true. |
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Some of you (bears) need to accept we are now in BULL mode. For the next few years at least. So, yes we will have dips and corrections, but the general trend is now- UP. Don't fight the trend. hahahahahahahahaha Few years..... gosh??? I wished. We have been in bull mode for a couple of months now, but surely the beginning stages of bull mode are surely difficult to identify,until after the fact. Even though bitcoin is an overall bullish investment, I want to suggest that bitcoin's history has shown that clear bull markets do not tend to last for very long, and I would not expect this particular bull mode to be much different from the past. Surely history is not going to repeat itself, exactly because several dynamics have changed including some of the BTC infrastructure and also the base of players seems to have become considerably broader. For sure, I cannot exactly predict how the current bull market is going to play out, but few years seems to be very considerable overstatement. Maybe on the outside 1 year of a bull market could be possible, but more realistically if we get 3-9 more months out of this baby, we will be doing pretty well. We can certainly pass previous ATh in 3-9 months, and it could be possible to get a couple of violent upsurges in a 3-9 month - or even a bit over a year time-frame - but a few years, it doesn't seem too likely. here's my back of the envelope... First bubble to $3-$5k. Correction to $1.5k. Second bubble to $12-$18k Correction to $7k-ish... maybe all of this could occur within the next 18 months, but it does not seem likely that there is going to be enough upcoming mass adoption to sustain any bull market for a "few years" I guess the people who bought all the way down are new relieved that they didn't lose all of their money... Now they are overly happy and want this to go straight for the moon.. Hell we are not even able to really breach 500$ yet... And people are starting to talk about over bullish mode. If trading would be that easy everybody would become rich. Somebody has to lose money in order for you to get money... While on the way down there were always people buying, I don't see enough people selling this right here. We need a bigger shake out to shake out all these overly bullish guys on leverage positions before we can really attempt to break 500$ with strength. You are goofy in your attempts to analyze me and/or my situation and attempting to extrapolate from me concerning what a typical bull may look like. Surely, in my strings of posts on this forum, I have provided a considerable amount of information about me, my bitcoin investing history and my evolving views on various bitcoin related investment topics - nonetheless, you still cannot know my situation sufficiently in order to generalize that my situation is reflective of some "type" of BTC investor that needs to be weeded out. you are a fuck-head for suggesting such, and you are a pretentious ass to be using the royal "we" to assert that you are in some group that is somehow distinguishable and better. There going to be all kinds of people who sell their bitcoins as the price goes up and there will be additional folks and institutions jumping on board too. Don't worry, you pretentious ass, TReano, there are plenty of bitcoins to go around, as long as you are either on board now, or you are planning to jump on board in the near future in the sub $500s price arena. |
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here's my back of the envelope... First bubble to $3-$5k. Correction to $1.5k. Second bubble to $12-$18k Correction to $7k-ish... maybe all of this could occur within the next 18 months, but it does not seem likely that there is going to be enough upcoming mass adoption to sustain any bull market for a "few years"
Bitcoin doesn't need "mass adoption" for its value to skyrocket. I concede on that point; however, as adoption increases, we are going to witness more and more increases in bitcoin's infrastructure developments and BTC price is going to continue to rise under basic supply and demand analysis. |
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Some of you (bears) need to accept we are now in BULL mode. For the next few years at least. So, yes we will have dips and corrections, but the general trend is now- UP. Don't fight the trend. hahahahahahahahaha Few years..... gosh??? I wished. We have been in bull mode for a couple of months now, but surely the beginning stages of bull mode are surely difficult to identify,until after the fact. Even though bitcoin is an overall bullish investment, I want to suggest that bitcoin's history has shown that clear bull markets do not tend to last for very long, and I would not expect this particular bull mode to be much different from the past. Surely history is not going to repeat itself, exactly because several dynamics have changed including some of the BTC infrastructure and also the base of players seems to have become considerably broader. For sure, I cannot exactly predict how the current bull market is going to play out, but few years seems to be very considerable overstatement. Maybe on the outside 1 year of a bull market could be possible, but more realistically if we get 3-9 more months out of this baby, we will be doing pretty well. We can certainly pass previous ATh in 3-9 months, and it could be possible to get a couple of violent upsurges in a 3-9 month - or even a bit over a year time-frame - but a few years, it doesn't seem too likely. here's my back of the envelope... First bubble to $3-$5k. Correction to $1.5k. Second bubble to $12-$18k Correction to $7k-ish... maybe all of this could occur within the next 18 months, but it does not seem likely that there is going to be enough upcoming mass adoption to sustain any bull market for a "few years" |
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Seriously, you guys are still counting BTC/CNY volume on Huobi and OKCoin? Get a clue.
Thinking is kinda what we do here now. Old-timer. Calling me 'old timer' only adds to my point here. Nearly two years ago I left, when all of this Chinese bs was going on, and when I came back I expected was ample time for the Chinese to be completely capitulated and out of the market, and that that fake CNY volume would be completely debunked. In fact it is well known that the CNY volume is fake and it was even way back then. Coindesk doesn't even include those exchanges in it's calculation. USD and adoption are supposed to be running the show now, but here we still have jokers talking about how 'the imaginary chinese whale dumped his 80,000btc/cny on Huobi'. From your post history, your departure was only about 17 months ago, and even though there have been some changes in Bitcoinlandia, we cannot expect "pie in the sky" changes to the whole BTC landscape. But I agree with you that posters seem to grant way too much credibility to Chinese exchanges. Instead of being a fuddy duddy naysayer about the impact of the Chinese exchanges, you gotta admit that they do have some effects on BTC market price dynamics (even if the impact is much lower than what many others seem to be granting to them). |
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Let's see if bulls can do better next time. I made a little money on the failed attempt at $445 so now You will have to buy even more, but you might do it. Just don't pump to over $3,000 or I'll get a margin call. HAHAHAHA.
Scale or die.
Weren't you screaming the same when the price hit ~260$ two months ago in October and sold like 50 coins and counting? Some people will never learn I guess. edit: found itThanks for finding that BjA post. he's got a lot of real retarded posts, even though once in a while he will say something that makes sense. That should be really retarded posts, unless you are suggesting other posts are fake retarded. Thanks BjA. You have made a correction that causes the grammar of my post to be more accurate. Certainly, I have never accused you of being incapable of expressing yourself grammatically correct - I have been more inclined to criticize the logic of some of your posts with the various doom and gloom scenarios that seem contrary to real BTC market trends and relevant BTC market trends... and I just become a little irritated from time to time because you seem to be attempting to use your Bitcoin forum account and/or this thread to engage in what appears to be deliberate and direct deceptions... whether that be your own book or possibly the book of someone else (because you have also been accused by others as being a paid shill, which can be difficult for readers of posts to prove, exactly).  |
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Bitcoin moves across borders relatively frictionlessly and speedily (10 mins to hours not days). This creates lots of seemingly bizarre global arbitrage opportunities ... the same 9k btc can be sold on a western exchange and back being bid up in china within an hour. Large cross-border fiat settlements take 3-5 business days at best.
Chinese BTC is getting sold on Western exchanges? Shouldn't we be seeing a bit more (as in 'corresponding') volume if that's the case? .... guess you missed the friday night dump in your razor-sharp focus there? 29k in 3 mins, probably some room for chinese btc in that flood. It's interesting to look at the relative volumes of that friday night dump (@5.00 CET). On the half hour chart, compare it with the average volume of the four half hours predecessing the dump. Outside China: - Bitstamp: dump volume was 5,200 BTC, before that 700 BTC (7.5x) - Bitfinex: dump volume was 19,500 BTC, before that 3,500 BTC (5.5x) - BTC-e: dump volume was 2,200 BTC, before that 500 BTC (4.5x) - Kraken: dump volume was 1,500 BTC, before that 250 BTC (6x) Inside China: - BTCC: dump volume was 15,000 BTC, before that 6,000 BTC (2.5x) - Huobi: dump volume was 85,000 BTC, before that 75,000 BTC (1.1x) - OKCoin: dump volume was 10,000 BTC, before that 30,000 BTC (0.3x) Clearly, the dump took place in outside China. Don't let the wash Chinese volume blind you. Equally in and outside China if you do the math. Of course the rise in dump volume will be lower in the chinese exchanges because they are bigger Do elaborate how that math works, which explains OKCoin dumping with just 0.3x the earlier volume, while Bitstamp dumps with 7.5x the earlier volume. total dumped by the chinese: 110k total dumped by others: 28.4k in fact the chinese still are leading the moves Thanks for highlighting those numbers Andre#. Even though you are providing a quick "back of the envelope" assessment, your point still stands and is important. Sure China is a factor but their exchanges are not meaningfully driving price in the short-term and violent price swings. In this regard, the Chinese exchanges seemed to have lost a considerable amount of credibility over the year's because, possibly in part, they have been exposed as "BTC price manipulators" in the past. in my humble bumble opinion, the Chinese exchanges should not be completely disregarded, but just taken with a grain of salt (just like some of the contents/suggestions of the posts in this thread need to be taken with a grain of salt - especially from posters who have previously shown that they have tendencies/inclinations to be less than genuine). |
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Let's see if bulls can do better next time. I made a little money on the failed attempt at $445 so now You will have to buy even more, but you might do it. Just don't pump to over $3,000 or I'll get a margin call. HAHAHAHA.
Scale or die.
Weren't you screaming the same when the price hit ~260$ two months ago in October and sold like 50 coins and counting? Some people will never learn I guess. edit: found itThanks for finding that BjA post. he's got a lot of real retarded posts, even though once in a while he will say something that makes sense. |
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