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2621  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: If Segwit2x gains 90% support before Aug 1st, will BIP148 still go live? on: July 23, 2017, 05:41:25 PM
Thanks for enlighten me.
Which sites - Where could I find such charts about miners signaling various proposals?
That chart was from http://bitcoin.sipa.be/. You can also check out https://coin.dance/ and https://www.xbt.eu/.

I always thought it is the same but it turns out just a half of segwit2x.
Since BIP91 to activate segwit require all blocks signal for segwit, all blocks? So, if some of miners are spy mining or a pool stop enforcing bip91, then segwit2x won't be activated?
Segwit2x is not one thing that is activated, it is several things that must be activated sequentially.

If some miners are spy mining or they stop enforcing BIP 91, then segwit may not be able to activate, and segwit2x will not continue with its plan.

It's make me confuse about how to activate segwit2x? All blocks should signaling for it?
Segwit2x will continue when segwit becomes active. According to BIP 91, all blocks must signal for segwit. That way segwit can become locked in in its next signaling period, and then activate one signaling period after it becomes locked in.
2622  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Data Consumption on: July 22, 2017, 07:58:47 PM
how much data should I expect to be used on a monthly basis?
Normal node operation is another 3-400 GB of data
That's per month data. Roughly. If your node is up for a long time, then you will be consuming more data as more nodes connect to yours.
2623  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [Guide] Handling splits: UASFs, BIP148, etc. on: July 22, 2017, 07:26:36 PM
Is the date of August 1st still an important date at which we should stop trading bitcoin, or with BIP91 locked in did anything change?
August 1st no longer matters. BIP 91 locking in changes everything. Now what matters is that miners must actually enforce the rules that they activated. The new rules (all blocks must signal for segwit) will activate tonight, so that means that from that point forward, we could potentially have a forking event. This will be mitigated if people start running software that enforces the BIP 91 rules, but there are very few nodes that are.

I have money on coinbase and want to buy in a dip but can't say for sure if i'm in any kind of a risk buying after BIP91 locks in (which is tommorow) or after 1st of August now that BIP91 will be locked in earlier?
The risk begins after BIP 91 activates.
2624  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What steps do I need to take come Aug 1st to ensure the safety of my coins? on: July 22, 2017, 05:22:30 PM
No. Do not do that. Please stop spamming that nonsense. Bitcoin Core 0.9.1 will likely not be able to sync with the network anyways. It has known performance and security issues. Furthermore, you will not be fully validating all active network rules.
2625  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What steps do I need to take come Aug 1st to ensure the safety of my coins? on: July 22, 2017, 05:16:06 PM
Since you have a hardware wallet, you are fine. You control the private keys. You can use your ledger with a desktop wallet software like Electrum in order to make sure that you are using the chain that you want to use. Splitting your coins is harder to do, but you can do it with Electrum. There are instructions for splitting your coins with Electrum here (albeit for BU, not a BIP 91 or BIP 148 split, but instructions still apply): http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/hardfork.html?highlight=chain%20split
2626  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Data Consumption on: July 22, 2017, 04:52:58 PM
You will need to sync the entire blockchain, which is ~120 GB now. You will be downloading the entire thing when you sync. Normal node operation is another 3-400 GB of data as you may be providing the blockchain to another node and you will be downloading and uploading all blocks and transactions to many different nodes. If you are unable to support that much data transfer, read the instructions here: https://bitcoin.org/en/full-node#reduce-traffic to lower your data usage.
2627  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: In which section are referral links allowed? At ico, services :) on: July 22, 2017, 04:33:11 PM
Who knows the sections where referral links are allowed?  Wink
They are completely disallowed in all sections of the forum. There are no sections where referral links are allowed. If you see any referral links in a thread, use the report to moderator function to report the post.
2628  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / MOVED: brute-forcing a BIP39 mnemonic seed passphrase on: July 22, 2017, 04:31:09 PM
This topic has been moved to Trashcan.

Duplicate thread
2629  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: About the "Unknown block versions being mined!" warning on: July 22, 2017, 04:29:36 PM
Ok, We have BIP91 locked in.

The message of the Core shouldn't be dangeous.
But my Core wallet is not working well. The syncro works fine. But when send a payment there is no connection, and the movement is not broadcasting to the network.

What I'm doing wrong? I was thinking that Core users donīt need to change anything (using 0.14.2)

But Why I cannot send funds with bitcoin qt wallet?
It has nothing to do with the warning or any potential forks. You have likely just done something wrong. Make a post in the Tech Support forum and people will help you there. Don't ask for help in this thread as it is off topic.
2630  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: If Segwit2x gains 90% support before Aug 1st, will BIP148 still go live? on: July 22, 2017, 04:28:15 PM
I heard somewhere else it's 10mb, can you show me the code?
You have heard completely incorrectly. In Bitcoin Core, the maximum size a serialized block can be is 4 MB: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/consensus/consensus.h#L13. In btc1 (segwit2x), it's 8 MB: https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/blob/segwit2x/src/consensus/consensus.h#L12

Isn't Bitcoin science? If it is science you should do prediction the future So could you explain at what conditions the hard fork is inevitable? and how much is the probable of getting those conditions at future?
Sure, its a science, but it also includes randomness. There is randomness and several unknown variables that make an accurate prediction hard to do. We don't know what percentage of miners are spy mining; we don't know what percentage will actually be enforcing BIP 91. Then you also have to factor in the human factors too like will a pool start or stop enforcing BIP 91 based on what they see happens to a BIP 91 invalid block? Or will a pool which currently isn't signaling start signaling before or after activation. Then there's other things like how much will the hashrate grow? Since there are so many things that you need to know in order to predict anything related to forks, making a prediction is hard to do without assuming many of those things, and those assumptions can be completely wrong thus making the prediction completely wrong.
2631  Other / Meta / Re: How do I get my account back? on: July 22, 2017, 07:59:54 AM
Read https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0
2632  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: In which section are referral links allowed? At ico, services :) on: July 22, 2017, 07:59:26 AM
None. Absolutely none. Referral links are not allowed in this forum with the exception of your signature. If you post a referral link, your post will be deleted. Post referral links multiple times and you will be banned.
2633  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Install blockchain node.. or need wair 1 august? on: July 22, 2017, 07:22:43 AM
Your question is nearly incomprehensible. Can you please try using non-broken English or ask in the proper local sub forum?

If not build segsignal patch of Bitcoin Core. Will be work Blockchain node?
If by "blockchain node" you mean full node, yes, it is a full node.

How to find out what patch need build?
Look at my earlier post. I linked it to you.

or bitcoind will be show "getinfo": Error { need build and install path...}
This doesn't make any sense.
2634  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [Guide] Handling splits: UASFs, BIP148, etc. on: July 22, 2017, 06:26:02 AM
So, now BIP 91 is locked in.
Does it meant that all danger (about split) is already behind?
No. There is still potential for a split with BIP 91 as many miners may be false signaling or spy mining thus end up mining a BIP 91 invalid fork. This would be reorged out later once they notice/the other side of the fork catches up and becomes longer. The likelihood of a persistent chain split is low, but there may be many non-persistent forks.
2635  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: unconfirmed pending bitcoin transaction.. 24 hours? on: July 22, 2017, 05:42:29 AM
Your transaction has hundreds of confirmations now; you are fine. If the service you are depositing at does not show that, then they are wrong and you should contact their support.

There is nothing you need to do to get more confirmations; the hard part is getting the first confirmation as that means getting your transaction included in a block. More confirmations come later as new blocks are found which build on top of the block that your transaction was confirmed in.
2636  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: If Segwit2x gains 90% support before Aug 1st, will BIP148 still go live? on: July 22, 2017, 05:40:39 AM
But I've read about miners which signaling on bit 1 has been declined after BIP91 locked-in, maybe you can see it on bitcoin core wallet or it just fud news?
That is completely incorrect. Signaling on bit 1 has significantly increased after BIP 91 locked in. You can clearly see the increase in signaling of bit 1 over the past day in this graph:

The yellow line is segwit signaling over the last 144 blocks. As you can see, it has sharply increased today as BIP 91 locked in.

I'm wondering too, what's going on. If they don't use bit 1 or BTC1 (v1.14.4) software, is it matter? As segwit2x should be activated in 2 weeks, right?
No. BIP 91 (aka the first half of segwit2x) requires that all blocks after activation must signal for segwit on bit 1. Segwit2x is not a different implementation of segwit. Rather it is a plan to activate segwit via BIP 91 (and BIP 91 activates segwit by requiring all blocks signal for segwit) and then to hard fork later.

I'm waiting for BIP148 which is on mooting right now, whether it still necessary or whatever it could be.
Right now, BIP 148 is theoretically pointless as miners should be enforcing BIP 91. If they do not, then BIP 148 will have an effect as then BIP 148's rules activate on August 1st. However I am told that most miners are running either btc1 (aka the segwit2x client) or segsignal (aka a BIP 91 patch on top of Core) so they will be enforcing BIP 91.

Encapsulated means another way, a secret path to activate segwit Cheesy
BIP91 includes a hard forking, about 2Mb hard fork, right?
No, BIP 91 does not include a hard fork. That is segwit2x. Segwit2x contains BIP 91, but BIP 91 is not segwit2x.

Does hard fork even really necessary? Does bitcoin need 2Mb blocksize?
Calling it a 2 MB block size is actually completely wrong. The maximum block size would be 8 MB. It does represent a capacity increase, but it may be one that is unnecessary with all of the things that segwit brings us. In fact, such a hard fork could be harmful.
2637  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: transaction not shown on blockr.io on: July 22, 2017, 01:43:45 AM
blockr.io is behind. Their most recent block is 476808 which was mined 20 hours ago. Any transactions and blocks made since that time will not appear on their block explorer. I suggest that you use a different block explorer as blockr.io seems to constantly have this problem.
2638  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: If Segwit2x gains 90% support before Aug 1st, will BIP148 still go live? on: July 22, 2017, 01:40:28 AM
Honestly, we expect for segwit could resolve major problems of bitcoin such as high fees and unconfirmed transactions, right?
Once people start using segwit transactions, then yes, we should see lower fees and faster confirmations as segwit increases Bitcoin's capacity.

Most people don't know exactly what the benefits of segwit such as malleability fixes, what else?
Segwit fixes a problem known as quadratic sighashing. Quadratic sighashing is an issue where large transactions can take seconds to validate (seconds are a very long time in computer time) because they end up hashing potentially gigabytes of data to verify all of the signatures in a transaction. The problem is quadratic in complexity; i.e. double the size of the transaction and the time to validate it quadruples.

There are a number of other benefits too, many are detailed here: https://bitcoincore.org/en/2016/01/26/segwit-benefits/

According to your explanation,  BIP148 means miners should signaling on bit 1, and BIP91 is miners signaling on bit 4.
I thought When segwit2x has been locked-in, segwit has slightly chance to be activated, or am I wrong?
When BIP 91 activates, it will require that all blocks signal on bit 1 so that segwit can activate via its normal activation. BIP 148 does the same thing too, but BIP 148 activates by date instead of by miner signaling. Since BIP 91 has locked in already, it will activate. And because we are before BIP 148's activation of August 1st, BIP 148 is moot now.

And to activate segwit, users and miners should enforce the consensus rule change to force miners to signaling on bit 1?  But, if users don't want to, then segwit will be expire on November 15th.
Yes.

My questions are, why user should choose segwit over segwit2x? Or segwit2x is a secret way to activate segwit?  Cheesy
Segwit itself is encapsulated by the segwit2x proposal. Segwit2x includes BIP 91 to activate segwit. But it also includes a hard forking thing that will happen 12960 blocks after segwit activates.
2639  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Segwit tx format? Need a point in the right direction... on: July 22, 2017, 01:32:14 AM
You should read the BIPs that specify segwit: BIPs 141, 143, and 144. There's also a Segwit wallet dev guide on Bitcoincore.org.
2640  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Post your SegWit questions here - open discussion - big week for Bitcoin! on: July 22, 2017, 01:27:54 AM
Which one is better and safer for 1st august.
Right now the problem is not August 1st. In fact, forks can and are likely to happen before august 1st because of BIP 91.

Option 1: Downloading bitcoin core from bitcoin.org and then made a address and Transfer all of my coins from exchanges into it and export privkey and keep it.
Option 2: Using electrum and Transfer all of my coins from exchanges into it and keep secret phrase.

Any different between them only for 1st august.
Downloading Bitcoin Core will require you to sync the entire blockchain. This may take a long time. However Bitcoin Core gives you much finer and more granular control over which blockchain you want to use (you can mark blocks as invalid). For a newbie, I recommend that you use Electrum as you can still switch to use the chains that you want to by switching to a different electrum server.
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