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HashNest already withdrew S5 from market because as they wrote: "AntMinerS5’s electricity fee is greater than 100% of mining revenues". They offer shipment for physical rigs. You can ask in their official thread if someone want give it to you. Maybe with free electricity it still can be profitable.
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Not sure how this poll is working, or if is working correct.. I checked it from two browsers: Chrome and Internet Explorer  Not sure, but it looks like both votes are accepted, with this same username: keyscore44 and this same Btc address: 1LjNECKfNTmoLpK8PK4chHHcUXt8rAwmyN  |
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Did anyone try already? Are he paying really? I just want to ask to know if he pays, I would like to try to do a transaction on the testnet first.
If anyone would have done this task, this thread would be closed, and the prize received! Feel free to do that and get reward  Let us know how you do that! I'm really curious .. |
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Soo how is going this adventure is the reward enought to keep making this deal?I know money is money and if can boost the income we could give a try at it but the rates arent low on this situation?
As you said: money is money! The rates depends on from which country you are. If you dont like offered earnings you can just walk away, no one force you  |
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Finally S5 gone
Lets check pool's hashing power - S9 should be plugged in for tests
As i understand upgrade to S7 or redeem is possible only if someone own more then 10.000 GHS. What if someone have little amount of GHS in S5?  Do i have to forget about this now? |
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I live in a place in europe which is not very strict with laws and a lot of people take advantage and i am one of them. So i dont pay for the electricity not a single penny.
So basically you are stealing electricity from poles, right ? That doesn't seems to be a good idea because you will be fined and punished at any moment In my country the electricity charge is $0.07 per unit. I don't think that's much expensive I do not want to defend the theft, but it seems to me that behind these words he wanted to say something else .. Something like: Do you know that since the 7th century, Cannabis has been cultivated in Morocco and this is one from most important national traditions, but drugs are there illegal? |
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Oh. Ok. So all this thread is about that risk is less when you invest in casino? I don't think so.. In case of winning in this 10 bets raw (10 bets on red, 10 btc each, 10 Times in raw coming red) you have to cover your own winning from your own (investor)pocket, and yeah let see how much you can get: Start with 100 btc + 100 btc from winnings - 200 btc 100 * 90% = 90 btc from your pocket + 0.55% casino fee 90 * 0.55% = 0.495 btc 90 + 0.495 = 90.495 btc 100 - 90.495 = 9.505 btc - your earnings In my opinion this sword cuts both ways, and wins only casino - always plus 0.55% As i wrote before with your idea way to lose everything is just two times longer then normal way.. |
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Bitvest is 100% publicly invested they only take 0.55% investments an allow instant divest. Bitvest shares the house edge with investors 1.15% to investors an 0.55% to them only on gamblers loses. So if 10% was only owned by other investors your getting back depending on the game your playing you could get back over 85% of each bet. Ill use this as an example:  So lets say you lost on this line you own 90% of the investment because you can only lose 60% of that bet on that line. You get back 40% from bet an if your 90% or w.e % over 30-50% more thats taking the sites 0.55% fee into consideration. So the site only gets 0.55% fee only on gamblers loses an most the edge is given to the investor. You could see how i came to this conclusion since its truly 100% investor based non crowd funded. I feel a bit stupid now.. I don't understand this counting.. Lets take easiest example with same data. you bet 10 times 10 btc each bet on red in roulette - 10 Times in row is coming black. You lost 100 btc. I think first move of casino is taking 0.55% fee, so 100 btc - 0.55% = 99.45 btc - this is to split between investors. If you have 90%, to your pocket is coming back 89.505 btc (99.45 * 90%) So 100 - 89.505 = 10.495 You lost 10.495 btc |
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There isn't a 30% house fee in any public investment based site ive seen an if that's the case you rob shouldn't be betting there.
Im talking about sites that are 100 public investment base an they only take 0.55% fee on gamblers loses an the other 1.15% go's to the investors.
An i am factoring loses thats what this theory is based on getting knock backs on loses.
If your going to degen your going to degen, this is a way to degen an get back some on each bet.
Lets use dice as an example you lose 100% of your bet if you lose, if you were invested you would have get some back.
This decreases loses, that you would have lost 100% of.
1. I'm not talking about 30% fee, i'm talking about 30% shares to buy (invest). 2. 100% public investment - yes, please show me one casino with 100% shares for sell. ( If there is casino with 100% public investment, It is called crowdfunding) 3. Let's take extream situation - When you buy more and more shares, finally you have 90% of casino - this 90% was worth 90 btc - in hands of other investors is 10% - house edge is 1% - casino fee 0.5 % - you play for 100 btc and you are only player in this casino how do you see your earnings? |
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Like someone said, keep it simple. You wish to invest in some casino, for example. And later you think to go to same casino to gamble.
So lets focus on big win: If you win big, money would be gathered from investors ( some percent`s from you also ) and paid to you so you will have profit from big win, and eventually some little loss from investing in casino.
But if you lose then part of your lost will go to you back cause you invested in that casino..
I don't think that can work. Only good thing about it is like you said you will not lose 100 % cause in one moment you will receive money from investing in casino. What are you doing is nothing more then rotating money, and in that I think you will have more loses then winnings.
exactly what I was saying before (btw it was me saying KISS) it just does not make sense to do what OP is asking or proposing or believing in yo could also tell gamblers to wager on plinko games because you don't lose 10% in each bet and you get always something back lol does it mean the bets are +EV? yes but for the casino and not for the gambler it was a very complicated formulated question bu tit has a very simple answer It does not make sense! OP is thinking only about winings, but should think about loses too. Of course as you guys pointed that loses will be reduced by % stake in the casino. But untill you don't have >51% chances to win, you always will be losing. Your way will be just a bit longer.. |
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Hi, I think here are two different informations: Info when you claim ticket: In yellow rectangle: "Claim a ticket every five minutes!" and under ticket number: "Your ticket number: xxxxxxxxx. You have a total of x tickets this round. Thank you for visiting BitRevenues.com. You can claim another ticket 2 minutes later. ." It is because the time to claim the tickets reduces on the weekends (like today) so the users can claim more tickets in the same time frame. The time between claims is 5 minutes for weekdays and 2 minutes for weekends. They would have forgot to edit it on the homepage. Thanks for explanation! But what is the reason to have two different claim times for weekends and weekdays? It is about advertising network? As i know there is no difference in the rates. |
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Pff haahah the exatly things did the earlier goverment for 25 five years and promised that we would be in EU union in 2012,but 2012 passed.The goverment of that time said that the next yeas we would win.but in 2013 were elections so either in 2013.the new goverment said that in 2015 we would be part but still not,believe me you dont have a clue what happens here,there are the the same politicans for 25 years sinse 1990 since enver hoxha the dictator died.the politicans are all connected to the crime and every one knows it but no one says it because have afraid,here people cultivate mariuana in their garden and you say that they will fix the elctricity problem? believe me that will be the last thing
Actually they used to cultivate marijuana in their fields in Lazarat and sell it to greeks, Italians and germans. That was confiscated and burned in by police because Albania wants to join the EU. Politicians make all kinds fo promises but joining the EU is not a simple matter. First the government has to eliminate corruption which is not easy to do since it begins at the top levels of government and trickles down. Do you see billboard signs yet asking for snitches to call toll-free numbers to report corruption? Eventually, the EU will gladly accept Albania - especially for the $200-$300 per month labour. Albania will join the EU after like 50 years or maybe EU will collapse untill then.I`m from Bulgaria. Let`s split the f***ing invented country of Macedonia between Albania and Bulgaira I`m drunk, i don`t know what i`m talking about lol... What a revolutionary! I have few Bulgarian friends, and i know that there is many changes. I think Bulgaria is in not so bad position in EU. hehe it is now political thread?! OP - One thing that I can suggest you about your idea. If you are sure about electricity, think abut some collateral, and try to take loan in landing section. (Long term landing) You can also ask in mining thread who stop mining becasue of electicity costs and want send you not used rigs. In my opinion, in your case, everything is about trust. |
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Hi, I think here are two different informations: Info when you claim ticket: In yellow rectangle: "Claim a ticket every five minutes!" and under ticket number: "Your ticket number: xxxxxxxxx. You have a total of x tickets this round. Thank you for visiting BitRevenues.com. You can claim another ticket 2 minutes later. ." |
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How does the math not make sense okay.
Lets say an any site pot is 100 btc.
You invested 100btc.
Now you have 50% of the pot minus site fee's.
So now you play have 100 btc that you were going to degen anyways.
By the end of that you have 140-150btc because you lost to your self plus the other investors.
If you planned on just playing 100 btc an lost your whole bank roll you have nothing.
This is a way to get back what you have lost, so as far as i can tell that's good math.
Pretty sure that's a way to stop losing 100% or your loses.
This is a method your betting that you will win an take the other investors funds.
I believe there is a few sites who use margin based investment which raise the limits.
In most cases why do gamblers stop gambling? Because they ran out of funds.
In this way you prevent losing everything you planned to use for that day.
I never said once any site was better then another not sure where you drew that conclusion from.
You made the same claim before when no where in this thread have i stated any site was better then another.
If you have 50% of the pot you dont have 140-150 back, because pot it is only 30% of casino earnings. When you play 100 btc and you lose eveyrthing, coming back to you 50% from 30% so you can have around 114 - 115 btc. If im wrong about pot - please show me casino which sell 100% of shares. In other words - you say that from 200 btc you have ~115 btc - I say you lost >85 btc. |
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Good idea to protect your account.. I still think that this way of earning from advertisement is breaking Ad.fly ToS, but it looks that you checked it better now Can you explain, what is going on in 1 person per country? Is it about payments rates or some Ad.fly rules? I think that if I suddeny add dozens of Ad.fly links, combined with the increase in account activity, it will look suspicious, so by setting up 1 page as all ad.fly links, it looks like the page is popular. But since it's a whole page, I can't tell who is clicking what links. Ad.fly gives stats per country, so that is the only way I can keep track of who is clicking. Stats look like this: Canada 60 $0.07926 Albania 35 $0.01524 Russian Federation 6 $0.00195 Proxy Traffic 5 $0.00100 Indonesia 4 $0.00114 Pakistan 2 $0.00100 Suriname 1 $0.00010 So if you are the only person from Canada, all those clicks are your income. Ok, now i got it! rates don't looks very attractive, but 7 clicks per day thats only one minute of work.. Maybe is possible to make some sub-pages with more links. It can give chance to earn more for particular user. |
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Some professional poker players know how to make a living at poker but I doubt there are many that can. I don't know the statistics, but I'm sure that the vast majority of people lose money overall in gambling.
That's why we used to say that even if you win, money are coming back to casino If we will see rich gamblers casinos will looks poor.. anyone have seen poor casino? I don't think so  As everyone know - in long run casino always must to win! So if someone is rich from gambling thats for sure are casinos!  |
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Lets say you were gambling on bitvest normally you played teal line you can get back only 40% of your bet if you lose.
Being invested at 50% you would have gt back about 65% of your bet. I'm not sure how that's a bad thing.
Its the same with dice if you lose your bet is 100% gone so if your invested you get some of that bet back.
Since your not only betting against your self your betting against the other investors so a big win 50% comes from the other investors.
So im not sure how getting a knock back is bad, this is basically a higher way of knock backs each bet your make.
Its a way to extend game play an on big wins the other investors have to pay up half for the win.
When normally you would lose almost your whole bet if not all to begin with.
The problem is that casinos not resell to investors 100% of the shares. Often it happens that for sale is issued only 20% - 30% of the shares. So if you had as much as 100% of the shares allocated to investments might be that you have only 30% of house edge. In this case, your idea does not seem to realize .. |
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Ι've seen the topic of stealing electricity discussed in my country as well. The way electricity consumption is monitored and reported is really archaic in many cases, this way making it easy for house owners to "cheat the system". But overall, it's not worth the risk as the provider is able to monitor month to month patterns and they have the right to come in to investigate. OP, other that the fact that what you're considering is unethical, if you've got nothing to lose I don't see why you came here to ask us.
Few months ago, employees of the power plant came to inspect my apartment, because I have not been for almost three months at that address, and that is why the bills came with zero to pay. They didn't like it .. so visited me with measuring devices.. I heard that sometimes employees of the power plant can have electricity for free, but I am not sure. |
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Okay, I have changed the system and the spreadsheet. I can only have 1 person per country this way, but that still allows for a lot of people and a lot of earning. The new system is this: 1) Tell me what country you are from, and I'll tell you if you qualify. If you are the first one from your country, it works. Everyone that already clicked is qualified. 2) Go to http://www.satoshihunter.ca/clickable.html and click ANY 7 links. They will be recorded as coming from your country, and you will get credit for them. You can share the links with other people from your country, and you will get credit for their clicks too, but not people outside your country. Sorry, but I have to protect my account. This means you cannot tweet the links to everyone, or post them on FaceBook, unless all your friends are in your country. 3) I will post the stats here daily, so you can see how you are doing: http://www.satoshihunter.ca/adfly.html Ad.fly only updates daily, so I cannot check numbers during the day, I have to wait until morning to update. Payments will be made on the 16th and 1st, if you earn .00025 (25,000 satoshis). Anything lower will be carried forward. So if you are still interested, please let me know - and tell me your country. Good idea to protect your account.. I still think that this way of earning from advertisement is breaking Ad.fly ToS, but it looks that you checked it better now Can you explain, what is going on in 1 person per country? Is it about payments rates or some Ad.fly rules? |
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I just got spammed by a spammer and i send him my id and driver licence and he didnt replied anymore. Please pm me only if you are interested not for hamful intensions
Your documents for sure someone will use to scam - probably he gonna open PayPal account with your data and will try to scum by trading BTC. Your proposition as well not look completly legal.. How you can have free electricity, and how you can guarantee that this situation will not change tomorrow? |
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