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2621  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: SatoshiDICE: Win Bitcoins while stress testing the network! (Reddit ad) on: March 23, 2013, 09:16:42 AM
how is that illegal?  i can't think of any ads that aren't misleading or false in some ways.

His site has nothing to do with stress testing the network, but there they are making it sound like the people are almost required to play in order to help the network. Basically, they're trying to pretend that it's not a gambling site, of course most people will figure it out but only after clicking the link. I'm not trying to pretend I'm an expert on the topic, but basically he's advertising apples and serving oranges and a lot of people might be upset about that if they were expecting apples.

Gl with the site.
2622  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Does CoinLab Beta actually exist? on: March 23, 2013, 09:16:18 AM
Has anyone actually been selected to be one of the 5,000!! beta testers for coinlab?

I signed up for the alpha first day and heard nothing. I do a pretty high volume of trading.  This whole thing reeks of a hail mary switch of business plan and an exchange desperate to extract itself from an imminent FATCA apocalypse. I've been wiring out funds every day from gox, trying to get out before this switch gets botched.

The website language is incredibly unprofessional. The photos of the coinlab team are just slightly less embarrasing than the updated Tradehill photos in VentureBeat (The original VentureBeat TradeHill photos were clearly taken in a bar).  Is it too much to ask for our biggest financial services team to buy suits for their publicity photo?  To have them talk like an adult that know what the fuck the DFI is? To not have conflicting dates on the Transition Plan page?  To not have typos on their splash page (fixed!).  Mt.Gox is handling $50,000,000 in trades A DAY. This is big-time money, try to be a little more convincing when you pretend that you know what you are doing.

This switchover is the biggest clear and present threat to the bitcoin price and I have no confidence it is going to go smoothly.  Does anyone else have confidence?  Why?

And Bugpowder turns out to have been exactly right: MtGox idiocy + Coinlab imbecility -> liquidity crisis, -50% Bitcoin market cap.

Next time you're considering treating the weirdo card-trading geeks and/or the conference trail scum as actual businesses/entrepreneurs/whatever think about this: three hundred million dollars wiped because idiots are idiots and imbeciles are imbeciles.

Well fucking done. Get lost and never show up again.
2623  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiDICE.com - The World's Most Popular Bitcoin Game on: March 23, 2013, 08:00:07 AM
Yes a service. It is not a problem for those who do not care.
I am sure a drug dealer thinks the same way. He/she is just offering a service, right?
When minors gamble via sd, that is just a service. It aint sd's fault right?

My statement was a reverse play on the rosy picture his post paints. A lucky win for a guy and his family! Good fortune for them!
What they can do with this windfall is amazing. It makes me feel so cheery.

But hey.. For that guy to win there were a metric crap ton of losers. Perhaps a loser who blew the family savings. We do not hear about those folks. That is bad for business.

I guess reading between the lines is a lost art around here. But whatever. Those with critical thinking skills got it. It is a common mistake not to think about your actions and what harm it could cause to others. But if one does not care... Well it aint a problem, right?

What if some person reading your post above suddenly decides to cheat on her husband on 15 years because of it? And gets caught (because of it)? Have you thought about that? Oh, it's easy not to think about what harm your actions could cause others, isn't it! Keyword being of course "could", and their own estimation being the criteria, especially in retrospect.

Way to go. If this is critical thinking then we must be on backwards planet and you must be a really smart guy.
2624  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will my f*cking Silver be worth something? on: March 23, 2013, 01:42:04 AM
Sounds like the OP expected silver to have risen in value by now because "Buffet's going to need a lot of silver for his solar energy projects".

Up! Up! UP!
2625  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitinstant failed again... on: March 23, 2013, 01:41:24 AM
Alternatively, see here.
2626  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAMMER] Teo Victor AKA ZeroSaw on: March 23, 2013, 01:40:28 AM
Perhaps the addresses I listed could be connected to some publicly posted Bitcoin address?  My goal is to ensure whoever it is on bitcointalk gets their account marked as a scammer as well.

Or perhaps the twin realization that

a. 0.x Bitcoin aren't worth all this commotion in any possible alternate universe;
b. every freebie offer on the Internet since at least 1991 had people trying to leech it, that's the nature of freebie offers,

may be arrived at somehow.

Seriously, why all the drama? Never did freebies before, never had money before, what is it?
2627  Economy / Gambling / Re: Satoshi Option - Trade binary options with Bitcoin on: March 23, 2013, 01:37:40 AM
For this type of service (and most others) #bitcoin-otc is old and completely irrelevant.

There are three types of idiots in this world. One says "this is old and therefore good". The other says "this is new and therefore better".

And then there's people like you, going "this thing isn't impressed with me so therefore I am better than it". No baby, you're not. The WoT is still the standard, you're still a wanna-be dice op thing. This situation will continue indefinitely, inasmuch as the only way it can change is by you submitting to it.
2628  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BitBillions New on: March 23, 2013, 01:36:21 AM
And you answered in nearly the exact same way I did...goes to show that for people that look into it they know what the truth is.

Gee whiz, I wonder why your other account answers things exactly the way you do. Fascinating topic of research this, what could the cause be?!

I'm wondering if in all your posts you have ever had an intelligent comment. It seems all you can do is abuse others. Were you the class bully in school...probably more likely you are still in school and the class bully.

I've had plenty of intelligent things to say. The problem here is that you're an idiot, and a defensive one at that, the sort that thinks redefining intelligence to mean agreement has even a vague chance of sticking. You're not the only idiot of that sort, but you are too late to this party. Your kind got purged & scoured all through last year.
2629  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will my f*cking Silver be worth something? on: March 22, 2013, 09:24:02 PM
I believe the arrogant dimwits

You're new here, and pretty clueless, but a pattern does emerge: you post in threads completely ignoring what is being said while going on about your own take on things. Thusly decoupled from anything of any interest (ie, what the people who aren't new here have to say) the respective barf fails to interest. It also happens to match the definition of both arrogance and dimwittery.

MPOE-PR, You are an incredibly stupid person to be so well written. Did you have an accident, like a blow to the head?  Something that would cut off blood supply to the area of your brain that uses logic, and social skills.  I suppose that it could be autism. Anyway, nothing personal, a certain approach to expressing your incorrect opinion spiced with insults to anyone that doesn't agree gets my goat.  I could not disagree with you more on this, and I choose to side with history, Ron Paul, and my own personal success with investing in precious metals.  I am not going to waste any more of my energy and time with you.

You ain't laughin' now, are ye.

Bitcoin and PM's should exist in harmony, they complement each other perfectly.

When I see people argue for strictly one or the other I tend to think those people are retarded.

You know, the discussion here isn't at all about precious metals. The discussion here is about when the OP's five rounds "will be worth something". The answer to that is never, pretty much.
2630  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: March 22, 2013, 06:25:41 PM
If people are interested in the "shareholder registry", enabling decentralized exchange, it could be written fairly quickly by myself.

No fee or bounty, though donations are always welcome.

Iirc they had a thing developed in house over the course of > 3 months to do this. It's not been mentioned again, so I guess fail on that score?
2631  Economy / Securities / Re: S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx on: March 22, 2013, 06:24:14 PM
What "say 0.038" are you on about?

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<assbot> [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00320003 / 0.00433909 / 0.00559697 (56642 shares, 245.78 BTC), 7D: 0.00320003 / 0.00449755 / 0.0058822 (343788 shares, 1,546.21 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00587057 / 0.00673999 (2388432 shares, 14,021.48 BTC)

It is valued at 0.043 on the day's average (56k shares) or 0.0058 on the month's average (2.4mn shares).

What 0.043 are you on about?  Wink

I lost a zero because it looked like a donut and I ated it.  Undecided
2632  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: {ANNOUNCEMENT} Free advertising & fast earnings - bitstart.biz on: March 22, 2013, 06:22:44 PM
That went over well....
2633  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Warning - Do not use Coinbase! on: March 22, 2013, 06:20:18 PM
Doesn't sound too good, for the technically minded.
2634  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Mt.Gox not pay real money WARNING!!!! on: March 22, 2013, 02:12:13 PM
Today I celebrate 1 month waiting money transfer from Mt.Gox. Still the same answer:


Hello,

I apologise for the delay and we will update you as soon as possible.

Thanks,

MtGox.com Team

No information on support page about any problem with withraws money!!!!

Seriously what are they playing at?

No wonder MPEx options broke 300k contracts this month. MtGox is basically going away.
2635  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: So basically, the state of affairs of buying/selling BTC in US is... on: March 22, 2013, 02:11:32 PM
Or in other words fucked. Yes, it is.
2636  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: March 22, 2013, 02:10:59 PM
1) Why should we care about that?  We have the means of making a better system.  Law always plays catch-up anyway.

2) True.  And before they had the sole ability, GLBSE had it.  All of the "stock exchanges" are just ledger books, even MPEX.  By and large, we don't accept money that is only ours because someone says it is ours, we prefer money that is cryptographically ours.  Why do we still accept fiat securities while we reject fiat money?

3) They always have the ability to do things globally.  Why should they also have the ability to selectively veto private transfers?

I worked out a system (probably like the 50th person to do so, but whatever)  with a merged mine chain that was a bit like namecoin, but with quantities.  Totally decentralized, like bitcoin.  You'd need brokers still, but that's pretty much the case when trading bitcoin also.

Unless/until you have good answers for these problems you're by and large wasting your time is my guess.
2637  Economy / Services / Re: John (Johnthedong)'s escrow service on: March 22, 2013, 02:08:31 PM
Maybe rename this thread?
2638  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BitBillions New on: March 22, 2013, 02:07:51 PM
Your intentions are transparent and your greed is overwhelming.

The worst part is the overpowering stench of stupid "she" emanates.
2639  Economy / Securities / Re: S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx on: March 22, 2013, 02:07:13 PM
Are you counting since the ipo at 0.0064? It is valued now at say 0.038, so indeed that is about -40%.

I have the impression more has been bought than 1-2k btc volume. I estimate Havelock alone has bought more on mpex since the ipo of 0.0064 ?

What "IPO of 0.0064" are you on about? The asset page is here. Did you happen to ever look at it? Says quite clearly

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(b)Based on their knowledge of the company and its assets, as well as on evaluation of market demand, current profitability and projected evolution, the representatives of SatoshiDice have elected to offer in this IPO a total of 10`000`000 (ten million) shares, as follows : one block of 2`000`000 (two million) shares at a price of 0.0032 BTC each ; one block of 5`000`000 (five million) shares at a price of 0.0034 BTC each ; one block of 3`000`000 (three million) shares at a price of 0.0037 BTC each.

What "say 0.038" are you on about?

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<assbot> [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00320003 / 0.00433909 / 0.00559697 (56642 shares, 245.78 BTC), 7D: 0.00320003 / 0.00449755 / 0.0058822 (343788 shares, 1,546.21 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00587057 / 0.00673999 (2388432 shares, 14,021.48 BTC)

It is valued at 0.043 on the day's average (56k shares) or 0.0058 on the month's average (2.4mn shares).

When I say "40% off its peak" I mean exactly that: off its peak. Highest it ever traded was something like 0.0075.

How much capital does sdice have for that currently?

If you go by how much was actually raised so far through selling shares, about 50k BTC. If you go by how much could be raised by selling more shares who knows, probably a degree of magnitude more than that. There's another 60-70k that the site produced as total net revenue so far.

In other words: some guy winning half a million dollars on a lucky spin does not make a dent. There's fewer than half a dozen corps in Bitcoin that can make this sort of payout, and S.DICE is one of them. This is a big deal.
2640  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will my f*cking Silver be worth something? on: March 22, 2013, 02:03:11 PM
No wonder that paper gold is so popular - however for the same reason it'll be worthless in case of a crisis.

This is certainly true.

Anyway, nothing personal, a certain approach to precious metals just gets my goat. It's not impossible to profit from them as it's not impossible to profit from anything in this world, in principle. Hell, urine was profitable enough two thousand years ago that they had a special tax on it. But you need skills and you need capital to do it, whereas this angle being sold to normal everyday people that "buy $100 worth of silver and you will profit" is just wrong. It's akin to "start your own tomato farm on your windowsill" or in the words of Carlin "how to make money by renting out the space inside your nostrils".

You wanna make money trading silver, you'd better know what you're doing.

(And for the record the catastrophic angle doesn't work either. Sure, if apocalypse hits and there's no more functioning state it would seem silver rounds might make excellent trade items.

However, the presumption that you'll get to keep/be able to use your rounds is weird in that context. If the government couldn't keep itself together you're going to manage to keep yourself glued to your coins? By what process, using what method? If such a method exists why didn't the state use it to preserve itself? You think angry dudes with guns care you bought that silver fair and square 5 years pre-Apocalypse? The peeps SOL'd during Katrina didn't do much silver coin trading. The UAF 571 didn't establish a silver price per pound of human flesh. If most of humanity is wiped we'll spend our time digging through warehouses for salvageable items, not pushing back and forth engraved metal. On it goes.)
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