[CLOSED] S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx

[Deprived]

0.03 * 64000 = BTC1920 won.

http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=d602ad09f967f11d50fcb2f98df8d001a812ce4965d6e69340f8961aeb32f27c

OMG

Expect share price to drop in the near future as people who can only see one month out jump ship.

Think anyone with half a brain knows it's the expected profits that matter not the actual results (unless there's reason to believe double-spend or something is happening).  Of course that (people with a half a brain) is only a small minority of members here.

[Peter Lambert]

0.03 * 64000 = BTC1920 won.

http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=d602ad09f967f11d50fcb2f98df8d001a812ce4965d6e69340f8961aeb32f27c

OMG

Expect share price to drop in the near future as people who can only see one month out jump ship.

Think anyone with half a brain knows it's the expected profits that matter not the actual results (unless there's reason to believe double-spend or something is happening).  Of course that (people with a half a brain) is only a small minority of members here.

In the long run yes, it is the expected profits that matter. But in the short run it is the actual results that determine the dividend payout, and those are not looking so good this month.

[Deprived]

0.03 * 64000 = BTC1920 won.

http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=d602ad09f967f11d50fcb2f98df8d001a812ce4965d6e69340f8961aeb32f27c

OMG

Expect share price to drop in the near future as people who can only see one month out jump ship.

Think anyone with half a brain knows it's the expected profits that matter not the actual results (unless there's reason to believe double-spend or something is happening).  Of course that (people with a half a brain) is only a small minority of members here.

In the long run yes, it is the expected profits that matter. But in the short run it is the actual results that determine the dividend payout, and those are not looking so good this month.

Right - which logically shouldn't lower the price by more than the difference the bad luck has made to this month's dividend.  Which is essentially no change given that the price trades in a band much wider than that every day anyway.

The rise in BTC vs USD price is a better reason for the price to drop really.  Not because there's any proven link between BTC price and S.DICE price - but because anyone holding S.DICE who believes BTC is in a bubble should likely sell the S.DICE and convert to USD then buy back in after the (what they believe to be) bubble collapses.  I don't subscribe to that theory myself, but at it has some logic to it.

[MPOE-PR]

Think anyone with half a brain knows it's the expected profits that matter not the actual results (unless there's reason to believe double-spend or something is happening).  Of course that (people with a half a brain) is only a small minority of members here.

Looking at the charts - S.DICE lost about 40% off its peak on something like 1-2k BTC volume. That's less than 5% of the third party holdings, and probably a good estimate for about half the "small investors" that have access to it.

It could be that the smalltimers/shorttermers panicked already and left (at a discount - of course). The whales don't seem to be moving. On this theory the price will remain depressed while the longer term players absorb the short term players' holdings as cheaply as possible, after which trade freezes/price explodes because nobody's selling.

Just a theory, I like armchairing as much as the next gal.

[BTCdude007]

If I were running SD, I'd seriously consider getting rid of the less than 1,2,4,8 bets.

The amount bet on these odds (thanks to the dooglus charts!) is so small compared to the approx. even money bets, but the
variance introduced is huge.

Unless the wins can be used for marketing and promotion...

[RationalSpeculator]

Think anyone with half a brain knows it's the expected profits that matter not the actual results (unless there's reason to believe double-spend or something is happening).  Of course that (people with a half a brain) is only a small minority of members here.

Looking at the charts - S.DICE lost about 40% off its peak on something like 1-2k BTC volume. That's less than 5% of the third party holdings, and probably a good estimate for about half the "small investors" that have access to it.

It could be that the smalltimers/shorttermers panicked already and left (at a discount - of course). The whales don't seem to be moving. On this theory the price will remain depressed while the longer term players absorb the short term players' holdings as cheaply as possible, after which trade freezes/price explodes because nobody's selling.

Just a theory, I like armchairing as much as the next gal.

Are you counting since the ipo at 0.0064? It is valued now at say 0.038, so indeed that is about -40%.

I have the impression more has been bought than 1-2k btc volume. I estimate Havelock alone has bought more on mpex since the ipo of 0.0064 ?

[MPOE-PR]

Are you counting since the ipo at 0.0064? It is valued now at say 0.038, so indeed that is about -40%.

I have the impression more has been bought than 1-2k btc volume. I estimate Havelock alone has bought more on mpex since the ipo of 0.0064 ?

What "IPO of 0.0064" are you on about? The asset page is here. Did you happen to ever look at it? Says quite clearly

(b)Based on their knowledge of the company and its assets, as well as on evaluation of market demand, current profitability and projected evolution, the representatives of SatoshiDice have elected to offer in this IPO a total of 10`000`000 (ten million) shares, as follows : one block of 2`000`000 (two million) shares at a price of 0.0032 BTC each ; one block of 5`000`000 (five million) shares at a price of 0.0034 BTC each ; one block of 3`000`000 (three million) shares at a price of 0.0037 BTC each.

What "say 0.038" are you on about?

<assbot> [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00320003 / 0.00433909 / 0.00559697 (56642 shares, 245.78 BTC), 7D: 0.00320003 / 0.00449755 / 0.0058822 (343788 shares, 1,546.21 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00587057 / 0.00673999 (2388432 shares, 14,021.48 BTC)

It is valued at 0.043 on the day's average (56k shares) or 0.0058 on the month's average (2.4mn shares).

When I say "40% off its peak" I mean exactly that: off its peak. Highest it ever traded was something like 0.0075.

How much capital does sdice have for that currently?

If you go by how much was actually raised so far through selling shares, about 50k BTC. If you go by how much could be raised by selling more shares who knows, probably a degree of magnitude more than that. There's another 60-70k that the site produced as total net revenue so far.

In other words: some guy winning half a million dollars on a lucky spin does not make a dent. There's fewer than half a dozen corps in Bitcoin that can make this sort of payout, and S.DICE is one of them. This is a big deal.

[dooglus]

What "say 0.038" are you on about?

<assbot> [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00320003 / 0.00433909 / 0.00559697 (56642 shares, 245.78 BTC), 7D: 0.00320003 / 0.00449755 / 0.0058822 (343788 shares, 1,546.21 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00587057 / 0.00673999 (2388432 shares, 14,021.48 BTC)

It is valued at 0.043 on the day's average (56k shares) or 0.0058 on the month's average (2.4mn shares).

What 0.043 are you on about? 

[Peter Lambert]

What "say 0.038" are you on about?

<assbot> [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00320003 / 0.00433909 / 0.00559697 (56642 shares, 245.78 BTC), 7D: 0.00320003 / 0.00449755 / 0.0058822 (343788 shares, 1,546.21 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00587057 / 0.00673999 (2388432 shares, 14,021.48 BTC)

It is valued at 0.043 on the day's average (56k shares) or 0.0058 on the month's average (2.4mn shares).

What 0.043 are you on about?  

Read the quote you are replying to?

Edit: OK, I just noticed people lost a decimal point. Maybe I need to get a bigger monitor, it is easy to miss stuff like that especially in the smaller font of a quote block.

[wtfvanity]

Are you counting since the ipo at 0.0064? It is valued now at say 0.038, so indeed that is about -40%.

I have the impression more has been bought than 1-2k btc volume. I estimate Havelock alone has bought more on mpex since the ipo of 0.0064 ?

What "IPO of 0.0064" are you on about? The asset page is here. Did you happen to ever look at it? Says quite clearly

(b)Based on their knowledge of the company and its assets, as well as on evaluation of market demand, current profitability and projected evolution, the representatives of SatoshiDice have elected to offer in this IPO a total of 10`000`000 (ten million) shares, as follows : one block of 2`000`000 (two million) shares at a price of 0.0032 BTC each ; one block of 5`000`000 (five million) shares at a price of 0.0034 BTC each ; one block of 3`000`000 (three million) shares at a price of 0.0037 BTC each.

What "say 0.038" are you on about?

<assbot> [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00320003 / 0.00433909 / 0.00559697 (56642 shares, 245.78 BTC), 7D: 0.00320003 / 0.00449755 / 0.0058822 (343788 shares, 1,546.21 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00587057 / 0.00673999 (2388432 shares, 14,021.48 BTC)

It is valued at 0.043 on the day's average (56k shares) or 0.0058 on the month's average (2.4mn shares).

When I say "40% off its peak" I mean exactly that: off its peak. Highest it ever traded was something like 0.0075.

How much capital does sdice have for that currently?

If you go by how much was actually raised so far through selling shares, about 50k BTC. If you go by how much could be raised by selling more shares who knows, probably a degree of magnitude more than that. There's another 60-70k that the site produced as total net revenue so far.

In other words: some guy winning half a million dollars on a lucky spin does not make a dent. There's fewer than half a dozen corps in Bitcoin that can make this sort of payout, and S.DICE is one of them. This is a big deal.

Basic math was never really one of the forums strong points.

[ColdHardMetal]

What "say 0.038" are you on about?

<assbot> [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00320003 / 0.00433909 / 0.00559697 (56642 shares, 245.78 BTC), 7D: 0.00320003 / 0.00449755 / 0.0058822 (343788 shares, 1,546.21 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00587057 / 0.00673999 (2388432 shares, 14,021.48 BTC)

It is valued at 0.043 on the day's average (56k shares) or 0.0058 on the month's average (2.4mn shares).

What 0.043 are you on about? 

Read the quote you are replying to?

You read the quote you're replying to!

 

[Deprived]

What "say 0.038" are you on about?

<assbot> [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00320003 / 0.00433909 / 0.00559697 (56642 shares, 245.78 BTC), 7D: 0.00320003 / 0.00449755 / 0.0058822 (343788 shares, 1,546.21 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00587057 / 0.00673999 (2388432 shares, 14,021.48 BTC)

It is valued at 0.043 on the day's average (56k shares) or 0.0058 on the month's average (2.4mn shares).

What 0.043 are you on about? 

Read the quote you are replying to?

Check the order of magnitude maybe?

[dooglus]

So someone won "lessthan 1" again.  Only the min bet this time, 0.01 BTC -> 640 BTC.  But that pretty much finishes off the profits for the month.

    http://www.satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=44a7e34a

    https://i.imgur.com/PKM3G3O.png

[MPOE-PR]

What "say 0.038" are you on about?

<assbot> [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00320003 / 0.00433909 / 0.00559697 (56642 shares, 245.78 BTC), 7D: 0.00320003 / 0.00449755 / 0.0058822 (343788 shares, 1,546.21 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00587057 / 0.00673999 (2388432 shares, 14,021.48 BTC)

It is valued at 0.043 on the day's average (56k shares) or 0.0058 on the month's average (2.4mn shares).

What 0.043 are you on about? 

I lost a zero because it looked like a donut and I ated it. 

[wtfvanity]

What "say 0.038" are you on about?

<assbot> [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00320003 / 0.00433909 / 0.00559697 (56642 shares, 245.78 BTC), 7D: 0.00320003 / 0.00449755 / 0.0058822 (343788 shares, 1,546.21 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00587057 / 0.00673999 (2388432 shares, 14,021.48 BTC)

It is valued at 0.043 on the day's average (56k shares) or 0.0058 on the month's average (2.4mn shares).

What 0.043 are you on about? 

I lost a zero because it looked like a donut and I ated it. 

Basic math was never really one of the forums strong points.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

So someone won "lessthan 1" again.  Only the min bet this time, 0.01 BTC -> 640 BTC.  But that pretty much finishes off the profits for the month.

    http://www.satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=44a7e34a

    https://i.imgur.com/PKM3G3O.png

And SDICE might have a loss requiring a carryover.

[ThickAsThieves]

SDICE profit is gonna be all delicious donuts this month.

[FTWbitcoinFTW]

because I discovered the other one is even better.

Good luck with that atm

Also Erik resides in US if I understand correctly

I seem to have read he is not US resident anymore, or on his way   *can't find the post after quick search so i'm not 100%

I experience gov shutdown as the biggest uncertainty/risk

With FINCEN, i thinks they're ok. They didn't touch any $$ so for US is not gambling ? (i'm right ?)

The biggest risk for my in the next years is a BTC at +500$. Which would divide by 50 the revenue/volume (in fiat) since i bought the shares

[ShireSilver]

Also Erik resides in US if I understand correctly

I seem to have read he is not US resident anymore, or on his way   *can't find the post after quick search so i'm not 100%

I noticed a change on his Facebook account, plus a few nice pictures of his new place. Inspiring, IMHO.

[MPOE-PR]

They didn't touch any $$ so for US is not gambling ? (i'm right ?)

Afaik this is correct.

The biggest risk for my in the next years is a BTC at +500$. Which would divide by 50 the revenue/volume (in fiat) since i bought the shares

If you're familiar with how bonds work, the valuating factor is demand not interest offered. If in the next years BTC is at 500+ it's conceivable that pure BTC revenue streams become a lot rarer and thus a lot more valuable. Hard to call it in the future, but still, in a deflationary currency any %, even 0.0000001% is a good thing. I've heard calls for negative interest rates (which obviously can't work in practice, but you get the idea).