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2621  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: May 11, 2017, 06:03:05 AM
Gold is moving very slowly in giving a profit but gold provides security and comfort in investing. Because gold has a physical shape, and good liquidity. Bitcoin is volatile at the moment, but this's where we can gain profit in not-too-distant future.
i agree with you that gold moving up very slow and we can get profit also too much slow and i think bitcoin is trusted we know its develop many years before and still bitcoin survive so invest your money in bitcoin is much more profitable than gold. 
yeah bitcoin is much more better than gold because is a precious metal and bitcoin is a digital currency and which is use for any online transaction and bitcoin transaction is very much good.
Did you not realized that the fact the transaction of bitcoin is really terrible right now? Too many spam transaction on the bitcoin network and i don't want to be a liar. Roll Eyes Bitcoin transaction is really bad right now.
It's not  as like you said for me. Over 100k unconfirmed transaction.
2622  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ASK] Why do people buy altcoin? on: May 10, 2017, 03:52:57 PM
Obviously for earning money and making profit. And also for making an investment for future use.
It's not obviously true. Have you doing a research about it? Looks altcoin just pump and dump. In fact more people were interested for using altcoin as an alternatives for bitcoin transaction.
They're offering fastblock rather than bitcoin. That makes sense if altcoin as alternative way.
2623  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: 2 hours till SegWit activation, do you think LTC will drop? on: May 10, 2017, 03:50:44 PM
Those will sell the news. I mean we are near dump of litecoin. So, the speculators will be able to seeing the usefulnes of segwit for the community. If that really helped for the community and FOMO litecoin will be happen in the future. Just the matter of time.  Cool
2624  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: May 10, 2017, 04:18:54 AM
i dont think so..

dollar is dollar and when you see dollar you see power.
bitcoin is bitcoin
Bitcoin is also powerful but not powerful as dollar, in fact we rely on the value of a certain currency which is most cases it's dollar because it's the most powerful currency IMO.
Because the economic of US give a lot of impact for the world of economic. And dollar can be determined as a fiat currency with a lot of impact to the world. It's not a powerful but the US has given a domination for the another fiat currency. And the price of bitcoin is not against dollar and anything. In fact the price of bitcoin not pegged with fiat.
2625  Economy / Economics / Re: panic selling on: May 10, 2017, 03:40:40 AM
Panic selling is just for inexperience holder of the bitcoin because if you are have enough knowledge you will not do a panic selling.

I am one of those inexperience holders that started to panic when I'm seeing the price of bitcoin to fall but I learned from my mistake and started to focus with the charts. And right now, I strongly believe that the price of bitcoin is going to become higher and I don't need to panic right now, the market of btc is strong.

Yes, to make good money using bitcoin you need to get a lot of patience, because emotions can only be lost.
I don't think so, The patience will be usefull for the long-term investment or trade. If you try to short and it will be useless. In these days a lot of the panic selling was hurting the price of coin caused by the bullish of bitcoin.
2626  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: April 28, 2017, 02:45:22 PM
25% Gain in 1 day at current prices. That's incredible. Glad to be holding most of my portfolio in Ethereum Smiley

This is really amazing in my mind, What was driven the price of etheereum right now? I just think if this is caused by PoS implemented in the future. Someone has same thought with me?
2627  Economy / Speculation / Re: The question is when: Bitcoin at $2000. 2017 or 2018? on: April 26, 2017, 11:38:48 PM
this now bitcoin price in bitfinex incraese over 1400 dollar
but iam still not believe if bitcoin price incraese 2000 dollar in 2017, maybe bitcoin price incraese 2000 dollar in 2018
Bitfinex is not a correct chart, they have a problem with wire transfer. It doesn't give you high accuracy, bitfinext is only the one had over $1400 for his bitcoin change rate.
2628  Economy / Economics / Re: The best time to invest. on: April 26, 2017, 10:50:50 PM
i think best time to invest.... NOW. because tomorrow price will increase. this motto is able for all days. TTM.
It's just your speculation and in fact the bullish already turned to the bearish right now, and the price of bitcoin is decrease. Just try to put your order to the lowest rate. Don't get a wrong way to get the right time to invest.
2629  Economy / Economics / Re: USD vs BTC on: April 25, 2017, 02:11:29 PM
Bitcoin has a market capitalization of 7 billion. I think I can say it's impossible to put both of them on the same plate. I can say that both are quite popular for him.


It's impossible and never being a true thing in the future. Bitcoin still always be pegged on the dollar itself. and you're wrong bitcoin has 19 billion market capitalization right now.
2630  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: April 25, 2017, 02:10:00 PM
For steady income anything with bitcoin is not possible i think. I suggest you find lower risk investment, such as 5–10% interested, and live off the interest. If you invest like $100k then it is $5,000-$10,000/ year. Bitcoin is risky. I dont think that bitcoin can provide you with steady income. It's always fluctuating.
Crypto can't be considered as steady income for everyone, and there is no investment place which offering over 5% for interest. The possible thing is about the ponzi investment and it's really bad.
2631  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin price is recovering! on: April 25, 2017, 02:02:16 PM
Good news dude !
Bitcoin price is recovering little by little .
From 950 $ some hours ago to 1066$ now !
Buy now till it's under 1100$.
 https://blockchain.info/markets

The price of Bitcoin now was 1290$ we are already fully closed recover to 1300$, Bitcoin now is ready again to take off going to the moon, so its time buy now a BitcoinBTC it is moving forward not going to 1500$ this month of May, and other country's so far are now getting in touch into bitcoin aside from Japan is very active for the adoption of bitcoin to their place after declaring bitcoin legally as their own currency.
As per preev now, the price has already rise to $1,300 so it's another milestone of success. I hope this will not dump sooner or later,
too much good news in the community bring this price that we see now, we should be proud for our support.
It's not a correct rate for the price of bitcoin, As based on the bitfinex and it has really high rate rather than others exchange site. So $1300 can't be considered as a real value for bitcoin.
2632  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin to be international currency on: April 24, 2017, 03:31:11 PM
Isn't it already an international currency?

You can buy anything from anywhere in the world, withdraw money from anywhere in the world.

What more do you want? A government to announce "hey sheep, bitcoin is the new money"?
Nope i think user waiting bitcoin is accepted in many places in the world. So they have many options for spending and they can use bitcoin directly without conversion to fiat first

Bitcoin already accepted in most of the country, and there are more and more country adopting bitcoin nowadays, so I think bitcoin had become an international currency and we need initiative, dont wait but act, introduce to new user, it will help more people to accept bitcoin and there will be more shop accepting bitcoin so bitcoin will become more useful for life
Hey dude, i think no country accept bitcoin. The government will never do that, but it does not matter because you can still use bitcoin as usual

have you tried to read the latest new bitcoin on japan, They are trying to consider it as a legal payment on his country and it makes your opinion to be wrong.
2633  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: April 24, 2017, 02:35:32 PM
Best way for a steady income when it comes to bitcoins is investing in trading and any other safe investment programs.Trading has low risk of lossing if you properly manage your funds so its the best and steady way for me.

Those investment programs that you are saying, they are very few in the bitcoin industry and one of them is bankroll casino's.

It will be effective if you have a big amount of bitcoin invested there, trading can't be a way to earn steady income.

Because profit there is unstable.

Trading is a good way to earn income but it will never give us stable income as it will keep on fluctuating and sometimes it can even give us negative income if we make any wrong move in it and even investing in casino bankroll is risk as you never know when it can disappear.

Investing in bankroll casino's is risky and that's true about it and you should have other source because you can't simply rely on this investment.

Trading is well known and popular because most of us here are earning with this source.

I don't have other way of earning on a stable basis, most of them are just temporal and short term basis.

Bitcoin can be earned in many ways but none of it will give you stable income as the price of bitcoin is too volatile so your income will depend on the price of bitcoins and even if you are making good profits in trading then also you cannot expect steady income from it.
There is no stable income, all of the jobs in bitcoin is a freelance. It can't become stable income for you. McD is better resource to get stable income for you. This really bad to make job in crypto as a main job.
2634  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? on: April 24, 2017, 02:31:34 PM
I know there are many big players who manipulate bitcoin price and make huge profits but can we the bitcointalk members also form a cartel and let oo impossible bitcoin price never fall?is it possible that we manipulate price as I am sure most of bitcoin users visit this forum
it's too impossible for the individuals users of bitcoin to manipulate the value price of BTC. Only the big whale investors or big companies had a capacity to manipulate the price of bitcoin.
Not only individuals but it is now even hard for big whales and companies in alone to manipulate the price. The market cap is in billion dollars so all the big whale have to come together in order to manipulate the price.
I think so, but it's possible for the chinese exchange site to manipulate the price of bitcoin. In this time it gets prohibited by PBOC. there will be more manipulation on bitcoin price.
2635  Economy / Economics / Re: Next generation money on: April 24, 2017, 02:25:43 PM
Yes it is entirely new concept in the world of money. Bitcoin is so powerful that we can trade any amount of volume via its medium. This transaction is still safe and anonymous with no big fees and surcharges as that applied by your own bank. New generation would always want hassle free transaction which bitcoin is already providing. Bitcoin gives you freedom of time. No matter what you can transact any amount of money overseas, locally and personally. This is something sounds like new generation stuff and yes it is.  Wink

I wouldn't say that Bitcoin offers hassle free transactions, especially right now. With the huge backlog of transactions and debate about block size, we are in fluid territory right now. But yes, Bitcoin does have potential.

I agree with you, the problem of transactions is very urgent now. But I think that it will be resolved in the near future. Bitcoin is almost an ideal system and it is not possible to spoil the problem of transactions
The limit of bitcoin blocksize has made a lot of people gets a limitation for using the bitcoin transaction. They can sending it with instantly. the confirmation take a lot of the time.
2636  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: April 23, 2017, 03:25:25 PM
Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?
It's better to invest your money than storing it where in its value don't increase. In my opinion, it's better to invest in real estate since its value grows faster than gold.
Hold still being a good decision everytme. investment is not easy as you said. It need a lot of skill and experience to get the right place to invest your money with low level of risk for yourself.
2637  Economy / Economics / Re: Mining coins save or sell it? on: April 23, 2017, 03:24:12 PM
Mining coins is no more profitable for me as it will require good capital to buy mining equipment and even the electricity cost is not affordable in my country which makes mining as an unprofitable business for me so I will prefer to buy it, earn it and save it for the future.
No, tell me the valid proof based on your mathematic calculation about the mining and does it really worth or not. Basically the result of the mining depend on your place i mean if you're living on the country with cheap electricity and it's really worth for you.
2638  Economy / Speculation / Re: Check out how forum down time effected BTC price! on: April 23, 2017, 03:18:11 PM
I see that's why i can't access the forum from the other day. cool i know whats the reason why i cant access the forum haha. Okay one of the reason why bitcoin price is also related in the forum i think there's a lot of huge users of bitcoin in forum that's why the traders and the people in the market suddenly stop the process that's why bitcoin price drop too because bitcoin price is also depending on the market,.
Lol it in timing that bitcointalk was in to upgrade and also the price of bitcoin was decrease doesn't mean bitcointalk down this time bitcoin price will fall also. All of users here are in bitcoin related and they can had updates on other website for them to check whats the bitcoin status now.
What do you mean about upgrade? It's just a technical prolem and theymos has said it before. Never try to fill your brain with negative thing. Bitcoin will not give anything for the bitcoin market.
2639  Economy / Speculation / Re: [UPDATE] $1,200 HITTED (Next goal is $1,300) on: April 23, 2017, 03:14:40 PM
1200 is a solid floor, at least as we can hold that floor. At this moment there is not much buy support to hold it. But give it a few weeks and if the price is still here.
A new floor around this price will be established.

Hopefully the BitFinex fiasco would be resolved immediately, as it's threatening the stability.
I doubt if that will be recovered as soon as possible, becaue all of the decisions are on the bank's hand. So, they can take anything they want to give a punishment for the exchange site.
2640  Economy / Speculation / Re: Speculation on the price of BTC if Bitfinex does a Gox on: April 23, 2017, 03:07:36 PM
It is not about Bitfinex anymore. Major bitcoin exchanges stopped accepting US dollar deposit as well.
They all claim that there is a problem with wired deposits and banking system.
This situation created fake demand for bitcoin, because people are buying BTC with the fiat money to withdraw it.

This is bad news. The lowest price that was said in this thread where Bitcoin might fall to is at $800. But if all major exchanges stopped fiat deposits and withdrawals, could the fall be lower than initially expected? Back to $500 perhaps?

May be $800 or $900, but not $500. First of all, Bitfinex is not the largest Bitcoin exchange out there, nor it is the oldest one. And secondly, indications are that the ongoing issues are temporary. 
The indicators that are saying that btc is getting overbought and topping? Yes my friend, a top is temporary.


Now people can not withdraw their money from Bitfinex, it's completely stopped. Even if everyone is at a loss, Bitcoin is after them, they have an artificial rise. It started to climb slowly as the difference in other stock markets opened so well. I advise you to be careful because of the problem with the rise in Bitfinex.

I don't use Bitfinex, but if people can't take their money or coins out, this sounds like what happened at Cryptsy. I never recovered my coins from there. I hope it's only temporary and they fix the problem.
More volume on bitfinex flow to another exchange site, and it will decrease the impact if sometimes bitfinex will be turned another cryptsy or bitfinex hack 2.0. Too difficult to fixed the account has blocked by the bank institution.
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