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2641  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The acceptance of cryptocurrency worldwide on: September 13, 2020, 01:54:46 PM
Unpopular opinion: Though there's zero doubt that it's better, Bitcoin doesn't need to be "accepted" by every country's governments and accepted by most merchants to be "successful".

In a way this unpopular opinion isn't completely out of reason. What we need desperately is to have worldwide acceptance of digital currency not particularly BTC but other cryptos. BTC is only a small fraction of the crypto 'per say' but adoption is much more important for its predecessors as that's where the real value lies.

I don't agree with this. We don't need altcoins to be accepted worldwide. I really couldn't care less if XRP burns in a flame of bankruptcy one day or if Craig Wright's shitcoin gets delisted from every single exchange. Why would you need BCH or any other useless coin to be accepted worldwide if Bitcoin is not.
IMO we don't desperately need acceptance. We need to move forward with each year and the longer BTC stays on the map the stronger it will become. More people will get used to it and understand that it's safe and it's here to stay. I hate gold comparisons, but gold isn't accepted everywhere. You actually have to search a bit before you find a gold exchange near you.
2642  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Spamming 547 satoshis. But why? on: September 13, 2020, 01:44:01 PM
As we can see is the cheap way to spread a message on the network, and this will become more common in the future, since the network is public information then why isn't a good idea to use it to promote a business?

I'm against spam but this is a smart way to do it, is like investing in google adds but this campaign will last for ever Wink

I disagree though, it's not that smart if you are going to advertise in lieu of spamming the bitcoin network unless you want to hit two birds with one stone here and since I'm guessing this comes from BSV, it's pretty obvious what their true intentions are.

We can see that someone says that it is complicated and he really don't know what is this about. They better just spent their money like google ads you said or press release or something.

Yes, it is BSV.

If you go to  https://memo.sv/  on the right you'll see "all on the BSV network"
It's not clickable so it doesn't lead anywhere but it's the same with other ones that were supposed to be links. The sire is not finished and they all don't work.
Anyway the first thread in "posts" is: Why BSV? Why not BCH?

I hope they keep doing it for another year and burn a million dollars. A million Craig could spend at his lawsuits.
2643  Economy / Economics / Re: Socialist life on: September 13, 2020, 01:26:57 PM
actually there are advantages and disadvantages of each, but if they are shown further, more negative impacts will be generated by socialists, if indeed everyone works together then there will be no more competition and integrity will decrease. But cooperation is also needed in building a relationship country.

Advantages of socialism? I'm really curious what those are. Care to elaborate? Socialism is about cooperation, but a guided one. This means that you have to work for the common good, but how this common good will look like is not for you to decide. It's like building a house that is supposed to belong to your whole family but one person in the family holds the plans and decides who will live in each room and what size the rooms will be.
2644  Economy / Economics / Re: UK economy continues to rebound upwards - but yet to cross pre covid levels. on: September 12, 2020, 07:30:15 PM
I see that the UK economy is recovery with the challenges of covid-19 but on the other side to the currency against USD, it has dropped slightly since about two weeks after it made good gains last month. In fact, the major EU currencies are dropping against the dollar. I'm yet to see the recovery reflect on the dollar.
I believe that with election comming up we'll have to wait for the Dollar to return to its highs. The time of uncertainty that accompanies the election usually influences national currencies.  We also have to keep in mind that in Spring 2020 USD was at its highest level against EUR since January 2017. Corrections after ATH levels are nothing unusual.
2645  Economy / Economics / Re: Remote Working and Inequality on: September 12, 2020, 07:21:22 PM
I do not feel like having a wife and kids stops you from working at home. Do you know how many distractions are in an office? We are talking about seriously not even being able to do your work most of the time because there is something going on, at home it is a lot easier.

For me it is not but it depends on person's character I guess. At home I find it that people don't actually understand that I'm working. They see me at home and casually walk by talking to me or ask me for help or want to know my opinion and distract me all the time. When you're at home there's always something. I have pets so they can demand attention, there's deliveries coming, neighbours, things like that. People know you're home so they come with stuff.

The biggest advantage of working from home is not having to commute. Going to town would take me an hour every day. That's an hour I can spend in bed.
2646  Economy / Economics / Re: PornHub now accepts Bitcoin and Litecoin (News coincides with BTC decline?) on: September 12, 2020, 06:56:58 PM
Credit cards work WAY better.

Until your mom sees the charge on her credit card.

Or your wife, which would make it even worse in most cases.

On the other hand, adding crypto as a payment option will not make the system idiot-proof.

2647  Economy / Economics / Re: Real estate vs. Bitcoin on: September 12, 2020, 06:24:59 PM
The market isn't looking alike even in the same country and even in the same state/district.
You can sell right now pretty fast a house in the suburbs at what looks to me as an outrageous price but good luck trying to get rid of a house or land 100-200 km away in a village that is nearly dying even at 1/25 of the price asked in the other place. We have hundreds of these houses that are still up and will be good for living even for another 50 years, not run-down houses like in ghost movies, that you can buy with an annual wage but... forget 50 years, you might be the only one living in the entire village in 5-10 years.

I know what you mean. Lately I've been browsing properties in Italy and there's a lot of really cheap land available there. You can buy a house in Toscane with a great view for 100k EUR, which is proabably the price of a small flat in one of EU capitals. I don't know if the reason for these low prices is covid or people moving to big cities, maybe both, but I'd love to live in the suburbs whete the air is clean and there's no traffic.
2648  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: OMG !!! Peter Schiff was right, again............. on: September 12, 2020, 06:01:10 PM
The SMART MONEY is getting out before the crash that Peter Schiff has been talking about   Grin
I am so ready to buy back in at $1k! He said that was coming back in November last year, when bitcoin was at $6k. Too bad he's been so completely wrong so far. Any time now, eh?
These haters are as toxic as those "when moon, when lambo?" people.
If Bitcoin fell to 1k tomorrow without any fundamental fuckups I'd be taking a loan.
Of course if it went to 100k next week I'd be selling everything, because both of those moves would be completely unnatural.

2649  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin difficult to understand on: September 12, 2020, 05:13:22 PM
I would recommend to read Bitcoin whitepaper rather than blog/press or youtube videos because most of them doesn't really complete to explain what bitcoin it is. Now bitcoin.org already listed 31 new language [1] , it will help for those people who didn't really understand on English language.


[1] https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-paper

I actually disagree with this. I wouldn't be surprised if a typical non-techie person would be turned off if he/she asks about Bitcoin and we just present the whitepaper. There are other far easier to understand articles out there that are better fit for the masses, like this one(in my opinion): https://www.coindesk.com/learn

Most people find reading a normal service manual to be a dificult task. Go to any home appliance, computer, electronics repair shop and ask them. The average user buys something, unpacks it and immediately goes to pressing random buttons and trying to figure out how the device works instead of reading the manual. Then they usually break stuff and try to blame it on the manufacturer.

If you had to read the white paper to start using Bitcoin we'd have half of the current userbase.
2650  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Millennial Generation Investors Prefer Bitcoin Over Gold on: September 11, 2020, 02:40:50 PM
It's normal because young people grew up treating electronic goods as real property. For us electronic money is real money, domains and computer programs are real items with real value, cryptocurrency is a currency. For our parents grandparents it's not. They think that things they cannot touch are less real than things they can touch. The generation gap has never bin as big as it is now.
2651  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Would you move jurisdiction to avoid tax on your coinage? on: September 11, 2020, 02:20:03 PM

https://www.europe-consommateurs.eu/fileadmin/user_upload/eu-consommateurs/PDFs/PDF_EN/Limit_for_cash_payments_in_EU.pdf

It varies wildly between countries. And even if you do manage to buy a Southfork style ranch with cash in the middle of suburban Paris you're still likely to have a small problem explaining the origin of the cash.

Of course. It always depends on the value of a single purchase. It's much easier to hide the purchase of 2 small apartments than a big mansion in the suburbs.

For some small things it is not a problem to sell BTC and use fiat to pay for goods and services of lesser value. Theoretically, no one will ask me where I got my BTC with which I paid for a plane ticket or hotel accommodation, but the origin of the property is something that is a very serious matter in some countries. I think that in Sweden, for example, there is an online database where everyone can look at what someone else owns and compare it with their income, and in case they suspect some irregularities they can very easily report it.

In most EU countries they do it like this. When you buy property the notary has to report the value for tax purposes. The property and paid tax go into the database where they sometimes put the total value of your purchases against your paid income tax. If you paid very little = you had not much income and shouldn't be able to make that purchase.
Store purchases don't get reported this way. Nobody knows if you have a computer with a virtulal reality setup worth 10k USD in your room. Nobody knows if you have a swimming pool in the garden. These things don't get reported anywhere or compared against your income/taxes.

Water should be one of the basic human rights, and if it is on your property no one should ask you to pay taxes because you use it. And I know of cases in my country where people have to pay to use such water, but for now only if they use it in commercial agricultural production. A lot of things that were perfectly normal and free 20 years ago are no longer today, but it's just a result of the government's efforts to make people as dependent on the state as possible - and if you have your own water, produce your own food, your own electricity and maybe use Bitcoin - then you present a problem.

They are looking for money wherever they can, even if it means cheating people and stealing from them. I can give you some more ridiculous things the government came up with.
For instance, they are checking people's wells to find if they're not taking water from their wells and using it in the house. If you have such setup you are supposed to have a meter on your well water so that they can charge you for waste water.
They are also snooping around properties to see if people are not cutting trees without paying for them. Yes, you have to pay for each tree cut on your property and the cost depends on diameter of the trunk.
They are flying drones to check if people aren't building anything without permits. I'd agree if it was about the house, but they are comparing the pictures of your house with these made with drones to see if you did not add anything like a garage.
They are charging big properties with rain tax. If you have a big roof you have to pay for the rainwater. This is by far the most ridiculous tax.

Because of the above, I'll try my best to avoid whatever taxes I can and won't feel like a cheater or a thief. As long as the government will keep making up new ways to steal from me, I'll be doing the same.

2652  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hackers Are Trying To Break Into This Bitcoin Wallet Holding $690 Million on: September 11, 2020, 02:03:18 PM
It sure is a big wallet but not the only one around the Internet. I remember threads on this forum where people were asking for help getting into their wallets. There are many smaller wallet.dat files circulating around the Internet and I haven't heard of a single case where someone managed to find the password.
Technically if someone was dumb and put a short password with no capital letters or numbers you could bruteforce it so it's not a completely futile attempt. Even if it takes a year of running the program 24/7 one should be able to do it. I think that it's only a mater of time before someone does it. Whether finding the password will really give them access to the money is a different matter.

Theoretically, quantum computer can break bitcoin blockchain if it can derive the private key in less than 5 minutes, which I don't think we computer scientists can't do in the next 5 to 10 years.

Theoretically there's life on other planets and it's possible to warp space and travel to distant galaxies Wink
2653  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Peter Schiff son buys more bitcoin against his advise on: September 11, 2020, 01:53:25 PM
It's important to be open unbiased about investment. Peter is not. He thinks Bitcoin is a threat to his business and likes to criticize it.
It's obvious that "the kid" has a much smarter and healthier attitude towards it. Even if Bitcoin doesn't make him a millionaire at least he won't be in denial about the possibilities it presents.
2654  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How Cryptocurrency rates especially BTC Fluctuate so quickly? on: September 06, 2020, 01:10:09 PM
Rates are decided by the traders. At which price traders buy or sell = the current price of bitcoin. The reason behind fluactuations are speculation of the traders. If majority of the traders think BTC will go down, they start selling and so does some others do. As a result, the price decreases a lot and vice versa.

That's right, which makes it an imperfect indicator, because the supply available on exchanges is a fraction of the total supply. In other words, the price of ~17 million coins is decided on trades performed upon a million or two that are available for trade around the world. The system is still fair, because it's assumed that if the exchanges were to run out of available supply, the price would skyrocket so much that people who don't hold their coins on exchanges would move them to take advantage of the event, but in the meantime we'd all experience extreme volatility. What you could see in March of this year was an example of what could happen and how easy it is to deplete bitcoin exchanges.
2655  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Would you move jurisdiction to avoid tax on your coinage? on: September 06, 2020, 12:30:06 PM
^
Many EU states have the duty to accept cash written in the law, so it's really not that hard to spend cash. In the country it's customary to use cash everywhere, starting from gifts and ending in real estate purchases. Want to buy a car or a motorcycle? You go to a dude, write down the agreement on the spot, hand him cash and off you go. Got a job for a mechanic, a gardener, basically any other contractor? All of them will take cash.
I could think of a dozen clean and legal ways to spend 100k EUR within a week.
2656  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Early members, give us an insight on: September 06, 2020, 12:11:28 PM
The best way to approach it would be to lose all hope, think of the worst thing that could happen. If you're ready to spend $1k today, think of it like it's gone. Don't start dreaming what you'll buy when it goes 10x and you have 10k to spend or you'll get nervous avery time the price goes down and start spending time observing the charts like an addict.
Also, learn some basic rules like not your keys-not your coins. Get a hardware wallet, learn to keep your computer clean, don't use online wallets and don't hold on exchanges.
2657  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Taxes for Airdrops and Rewards? on: September 06, 2020, 11:54:52 AM
Anyone else?  So if you get waves to your waves wallet from leasing or other wallets like that... but you don't sell them... do you report that?  That also makes no sense because until you sell it... what if each one is worth 5 dollars and you got say 50 for the year so two fifty profit.  But you didn't sell them or anything or trade it but then later on it drops to 0... so you pay taxes on that two fifty... but then get screwed when its 0?  Because if you do report that, wouldnt you have to sell it immediately to not get freerolled so to speak?


I don't report anything anywhere, since there's basically no way to trace my coins to me until I actually decide to sell for fiat, but wait, I can sell for cash. Now, is there a way to trace coins bought and sold for cash back to me? I'd like to see them try Wink For now I'm clean since I don't have to report unrealized gains and I also don't need to report realized gains until a certain amount.
If you're worried that it might drop to 0, maybe you shouldn't invest in the first place. You don't need to be a master of TA to know that it will nevr go to literal 0, but even if we think of something like $100, it would need years to drop that low. You'd have plenty of time to sell at 6k, 3k, 1k and all other strong levels.
2658  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Long Term Investing & why this is the only way to Financial Freedom on: September 06, 2020, 11:26:38 AM
Hej there thanks for your feedback. In this case i must have been misunderstood. I do personally as a holder didnt find the "crash" catastrophic it was more related to the traders out there or those who arent aware that bitcoin moves this massively. I personally see all those price movements as a great buying opportunity to accumulate more bitcoin. Nevertheless i do have the feeling that a lot of people arent holding bitcoin and rather trade bitcoin for the short term Smiley

Thanks for answering. I said that in relation to the title of this thread. Starting a video with short-term TA and mentioning a catastrophical drop isn't really supporting the idea of investing for the long run. Some trade some hold. I don't believe anybody can provide some serious data about the number of BTC holders vs traders. What I've learned along the way is that to make big money trading you have to be an exceptional trader. To make money investing in Bitcoin, all you need is confidence and know how to keep your coins safe. Saddly, most newcomers come to the space thinking they can trade their way to riches.
2659  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Would you move jurisdiction to avoid tax on your coinage? on: September 06, 2020, 11:12:14 AM
I already have some backup plans in motion that allow me to avoid taxes. Not to give too much details, I have people willing to buy BTC from me for cash for a small fee, basically any amount, so I'm not really afraid of sudden capital gains taxes being imposed.
I'm planning to move for other reasons. The EU is becoming more and more socialist and the governments are making up some strange taxes every year. For instance people used to have wells on their properties, but now the EU is thinking about taxing people for the water they collect. I bet their next step is going to be taxing for rain collected from the roofs. We're going to have meters on our downspouts. In many places you even have to register your solar panels with the government and ask for permits to build a stupid wooden shed in your back yard.
2660  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Long Term Investing & why this is the only way to Financial Freedom on: September 06, 2020, 10:55:03 AM
Long term investing is incompatible with technical analysis. Your channel is crap.
Long term investment requires careful research on potential projects for your portfolio.

What projects? What portfolio? They're talking about Bitcoin. Portfolios are for shitcoin buyers.
As for the technicals being incompatible, I agree. There's no need to do short-term TA when you're an investor. TA is for traders. He's talking about long term hold and barely mentions the fundamentals, but focuses on the recent correction, like a typical trader. He even says that  "the recent move might look catastrophic".
I'm a holder and to me the move from 9k to 4k in March wasn't catastrophic. If you feel like that when the price moves down by 2k USD, youre a trader not an investor.
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