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2641  Economy / Reputation / Re: User @Amph - sale of BTT account via PM! on: February 26, 2023, 03:48:42 PM

In your opinion he couldn't scam people himself but if he'd sold the account the new owner could do the scam? Are you basing your judgment on "what if"? That shows how biased you are and IMO you shouldn't be on DT with that line of thinking. And you are more worried about your own reputation than protecting the community, you could have just sent him a PM telling him what he was doing wrong and give him a neutral feed back to make the warning more serious, but you chose to ruin him publicly for something you deem untrustworthy which is not even illegal just that frowned upon in this community.

Yes he could have sold the account to a scammer, he had years to do that but he didn't, and nobody got scammed so far, warning people about a potential scam which could happen in the future and which will never happen by tagging him is a poor judgment.

What is a mystery for me, did Amph knew account sales would get him tagged or not? If he didn't know then now he knows loud and clear, if he knew then maybe a red tag is deserved.

You're a bigger troll than I thought, but it's not worth arguing too much with such people, because you obviously have the attitude that things like this should be swept under the carpet instead of the community finding out what really happened.

My reputation is very important to me (regardless of what others think about it), and I will certainly not allow myself to be called into question by protecting someone who did something that the majority of members of this community do not approve (at least in principle).

Apart from me, only one DT member left a red tag, so that also clearly shows that the majority thinks like you - that is, they gave him a second chance.
2642  Economy / Speculation / Re: The BTC deep continues for the next SIX Months. on: February 26, 2023, 03:32:27 PM
Short term thinking is the biggest failure people make in bitcoin. If you can’t invest your fiat into bitcoin & be patient for a few years (preferably even longer) then you are NGMI.

Bitcoin is designed to go up forever, if you don’t have the balls to HODL for years then this is not the right asset to invest in.

In that case, we can conclude that a fairly large percentage of people think in the wrong way, or it would be even better to say that they want to get in quickly and get out quickly with as much profit as possible. I am not at all surprised at such an attitude of an average person who is brainwashed every day by various government officials, especially those who come from central banks and similar financial institutions. When you hear the same phrases being said with ease like "it could all collapse at any moment" or "Bitcoin price could go to zero" it's clear why most people don't want to "take risks" in the long term.

I agree, they Not Going To Make It.
2643  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 13 years ago Theymos sold 160btc at $0.003 per 1, lowest price ever recorded on: February 26, 2023, 02:57:03 PM
I don't think they at all need the money, $0.48 is not something that could help actually but I think Theymos and Martti were just testing the market on how a decentralized market works. What would he do to the $5 when he could have asked from a friend and there is no need to sell anything.
But since these happened I guess it's good trivia to tell like Lazlo's which we now in the Bitcoin community celebrate Pizza day.

It's not about whether someone needed money or sold BTC because they were curious or maybe wanted to be recorded as someone who wanted to go down in history, but about the fact that the OP is wrong when he claims that this is the lowest price at which someone sold Bitcoin. In my previous post, I wrote that back in 2009, Martti Malmi sold as much as 5050 BTC for only $5.02, which means that the price of 1 BTC was only $0.00099.
2644  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Awareness and Redemption on: February 26, 2023, 02:33:23 PM
~snip~

Maybe you're right, and maybe the OP really wants to go in a different direction and I think he should be given a chance. I checked his post history and since December last year he was not active in the bounty, and the merit was an additional motivation in order to encourage him to make a change. It is true that he needs many more merits to become a Full member, but every journey begins with the first step - we can say that he only needs 9 merits to become a Member, which is a much more attainable goal.
2645  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: SEC Chair Gensler confirms "everything other than Bitcoin is a security" on: February 26, 2023, 02:19:20 PM
Is Gensler "our guy" now?
How do anti-altcoiners feel about this?

I would answer you with a counter question - can "our" man be someone who works for the US government and according to the guidelines of that same government? The article you linked also states that this man worked for Goldman Sachs for 20 years, and after all that time he is certainly not inclined to any ideas like Bitcoin.

The only thing I agree with him on is the following statement :

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“I don’t think there’s much economic use for a micro-currency, and we haven’t seen one in centuries,” Gensler said. “Most of these tokens will fail, because the question is about these economics. What’s the ‘there’ there?”
2646  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: How can we make Bitcoin simpler? on: February 26, 2023, 12:12:39 PM
Without getting into how unintelligent someone is or isn't, I don't think Bitcoin is so complicated that an average person with at least a high school diploma can't figure it out in a very short period of time. By that I mean maybe 2-3 hours of lectures, with the condition that the person teaching knows what he is talking about and knows how to make a presentation, because pictures sometimes speak a lot more than words.

From my personal experience, I didn't conclude that people can't understand Bitcoin because it's too complicated, but because the idea itself is quite meaningless to them, considering that they are too deep in a system that suits them (most of them). Being your own bank is not something most people want, or better said, people don't want that risk or responsibility.

I would therefore conclude that we don't need a simpler Bitcoin, but we need people who think outside the generally set frameworks, and there are very few of them in the world, to be honest. For such a drastic change in thinking, children should be taught from the moment they start elementary school - but it is hard to expect the authorities to work against themselves and suggest to anyone that Bitcoin is something better than what they represent.
2647  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Awareness and Redemption on: February 26, 2023, 11:47:16 AM
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I need guidance please

@Kalam001, I thought I was clear enough in my post, but apparently I wasn't considering that you ask the same questions and that you didn't read the forum rules as I advised you. You have already violated one of them (posting multiple posts in the row), and there are many more that you should read - take your time and read ->

Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ 

Also, read all the sticky threads at the top of this board, because that's the only way to learn some things - you won't achieve anything by repeating the same questions.   
2648  Economy / Reputation / Re: User @Amph - sale of BTT account via PM! on: February 26, 2023, 11:33:10 AM
Guys please, it's obvious that Amph is a naive person, and clearly if he was in this business he would have known the better methods to sell an account. This could be considered as a one time mistake which I'm sure he'd promise not to think about it again.

What I'm suggesting is that you could at least give him a chance by looking the other way just this once, if he was an untrustworthy member for years, this would have been understandable to tag him right away at the first chance, but if you think there is a silver lining to this issue, please reconsider your tags, at least make them neutral for a while to see what happens next, but please don't ruin his reputation just for one mistake, please.

Given that you defend it so ardently, the question arises whether you are in some way connected to that account/member? In your opinion, everyone should get a second chance, regardless of what they do, to the extent that it can have long-term, very bad consequences for any member of this forum?

Not only is he more than obviously guilty because he had the intention of selling his BTT account, but he also involved me in all of that - and regardless of the fact that people who think logically think that I am not the person who contacted him on Telegram, the doubt always remains - or better to say that the damage he did to me is irreparable.

Maybe that was his intention from the beginning, even to the extent that he consciously sacrificed one of his alt accounts - because I doubt that it was the first and last BTT account he sold.
2649  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 13 years ago Theymos sold 160btc at $0.003 per 1, lowest price ever recorded on: February 25, 2023, 04:08:39 PM
And what about Martti Malmi who sold 5050 BTC for only $5.02 back in 2009? It was also the first official transaction when it comes to conversion from BTC to fiat. I don't see that it was a big problem then, because everyone could mine BTC with their personal computer and mine a few thousand BTC every day without any trouble.

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Today marks the 13th anniversary of the very first Bitcoin trade ever conducted in exchange for U.S. dollars.
On October 12th, 2009. Exactly 5050 BTC was traded for just $5.02.
The transaction was conducted by Finnish developer Martti Malmi, who helped Satoshi Nakamoto work on Bitcoin in its early days. Before the trade, Bitcoin didn’t have any market price.
Source
2650  Economy / Speculation / Re: The BTC deep continues for the next SIX Months. on: February 25, 2023, 03:44:26 PM
This saga of BTC price has no hope for the next Six months, the market cap has shown 70% of possibility price deepening continuing without reversing. This is because a good number of BTC has been taken from the system and no further reliable investment coming in to the system.

If I understand correctly, you mean that the price will go down because there is not enough BTC in the "system" for trading? Fewer available BTC on the market with the increased demand that has been evident since the beginning of this year should have quite the opposite effects to those you describe.

BTC will continues going down if the major shareholders did not turn up to increase the strength and volume of BTC  , BBC market news shows that the number of people trading bitcoin in 2020-2023 has drastically reduced compared to 2013-2015 figures, that if this continues BTC will suffer insufficient pumps.

Just listen to what they write and say on the mainstream media and everything will be fine Roll Eyes - it seems that their "experts" have some bigger problems with mathematics, because it is stupid to say that 10 years ago more people traded Bitcoin than today.

If the system continue suffering price creeping, am afraid BTC may end up into another revolution of losses.

You are obviously still under the impression of what happened 1 or 2 years ago, so you don't understand that losses are an integral part of trading on every market. In addition, Bitcoin has grown by more than 50% compared to the bottom (below $16k), and you are talking about some kind of "price creeping" - first you need to look at the real data, and then draw conclusions.
2651  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Help Bitcoin help Ukraine! on: February 25, 2023, 03:00:54 PM
As someone who fortunately survived the horrors of war 30 years ago, I can only say that I deeply sympathize with the Ukrainian people because I know exactly what it's like to be where they are now. Fortunately, this time the West did not decide to impose sanctions on the country that was attacked, and we also have Bitcoin, which turned out to be something that many people recognized and thus decided to help the people of Ukraine to defend themselves.

As for the way in which Bitcoin can help Russia get rid of Putler and his political associates, I agree in principle that some kind of internal rebellion is needed, but here we have to take into account that hundreds of thousands have already left that country and that every more and more are leaving each day. What I want to say is that the critical mass that is crucial for change is decreasing more and more, and only those who are too afraid to raise their voice remain - with the addition of hundreds of thousands of those who hold weapons in their hands and shoot at Ukraine.

I think that Bitcoin is, first of all, key in that it can provide fairly anonymous donations and that it encourages many people to donate without fear that something will happen to them because they are helping Ukraine. What we need to know is that always when it comes to war, a war is being fought on the front line, but it is also being fought in the background where the battle is being fought between the army of Russian spies which were placed up all over the world for decades and are now trying to do their dirty work.
2652  Economy / Economics / Re: The Return of the Barter Trade at Rural Communities in Nigeria on: February 25, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
~snip~
Imagine a country where the president wouldn't obey orders from the Supreme Court of the land. Would anyone expect he would obey lower court orders then?

I can imagine it, because even though I live in a better-ordered country within the EU, I have a president who behaves like a spoiled brat and is one of the few who supports Russia because he plays some guy who wants to be on the side of the bad guys. Maybe you in African countries have a completely different idea of how government and politics work in the rest of the world, but believe me it's just an illusion that things work well, while on the other hand, incompetence and corruption are just much better hidden behind the so-called good intentions for ordinary people.

As long as the common man has a job and can put food on the table every day, he will not protest too much against the system, no matter how bad it is.
2653  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Awareness and Redemption on: February 25, 2023, 11:21:43 AM
~snip~
I ultimately made the decision to make amends and resolved to be more engaged with other forum sections to learn more about it and, ideally, discover Bitcoin. I'm hoping I still have time to start over and prove myself in this place. I need guidance

In the long run, you made a good decision before burying yourself even deeper in something that is difficult to get out of. You lost some time, but you still proved to yourself that what you were doing is not something you want to spend your time on, and sometimes first-hand experience is much more valuable than creating an opinion based on what others tell you.

As for the forum, it's never too late to go in a different direction and all you need is to find what interests you and try to participate in the discussion. Of course, before that I suggest that you read the rules of the forum, and that you adhere to them, especially that you do not plagiarize other people's work and be original in your posts.
2654  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: "Bitcoin’s Future Hinges on Donations, and That’s Got People Worried" on: February 25, 2023, 11:03:06 AM
What kind of "top" journalism is this? The way I see it, someone is trying to say that pre-mined shitocins have a much higher chance of success because that way they will be able to pay their developers, while those who work for the benefit of Bitcoin will sooner or later dry up Roll Eyes

So if people are already worried about what will happen when the last Bitcoin is mined in 100+ years, or whether Satoshi will appear with his 1+ million BTC or whether we will remain in the dark because of BTC mining - then this is just one more doubt on the list of those we really need to worry about...
2655  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin [eventually] collapse? (scholar’s opinion) on: February 25, 2023, 10:50:50 AM
Do you have anything againsts innovations if they bring value and their creators can earn?

I have nothing against innovation, but I do have something against Bitcoin changing in the way you suggest. No matter what your intentions are, the majority will not agree on such radical ideas, because that would be the end of Bitcoin as we have it today.

I am Ukrainian.

You mentioned giving speeches in front of the Australian Senate so I assumed you were from that country, but that doesn't really matter - it was written in the context of the fact that some people have really weird ideas when it comes to Bitcoin, so I linked it to CW Faketoshi.



@Oleksiiko, please try to use the multi-quote option instead of replying to each post in a new post - it's against the forum rules.
2656  Economy / Reputation / Re: User @Amph - sale of BTT account via PM! on: February 25, 2023, 10:24:43 AM
Again, asking for screenshot of the PM that was sent is kind of a red-hearing.  Why would Lucius do that if he already got the PM?  He could have taken a screen shot himself, as he already demonstrated here in this thread.  It does lend some credibility to Welsh's speculation.

My guess is that the person behind everything wanted that screenshot to try to set me up by opening a new thread and accusing me of trading with accounts - luckily I was quick and reacted in time. Although even now some doubt that I have something to do with this, what would happen if I just tagged that account and reported that PM?



For some reason, it seems to me that someone wanted to frame Lucius. See how he has tagged several account sellers in recent days. Expecting Lucius to report about PM, the scammer wanted to frame him as a buyer in the hope that he could avenge the previous red tags and the failed sale.

Yes, it seems that I touched a hornet's nest because I dared to touch the operation of selling BTT accounts, which is a very lucrative business in which some, let's say, respectable members of this community also participate as escrows.

Last year I had a bad feeling and opened the next thread just in case -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5418044



That's true, screenshots don't prove a thing. But maybe you can tell me: is this PM doctored or did you sent this?
So @Amph: Are you trying to sell your account?


btw i'm not seeing that i didn't send that pm, i'm saying that he tell me to do so, to create this topic, that's my point

What more do you need than the fact that he has already admitted that he did it? Not only did he try to sell his account, but he also turned out to be a fool who someone managed to get him to admit publicly and cast a shadow of doubt on me along the way. Someone had obviously been planning this for months, because it was necessary to find someone naive enough to do it this way.
2657  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: No debits from the ledger possible. Who can help? on: February 24, 2023, 04:16:28 PM
@Beparanf, I don't see how Ledger Live on a smartphone would be able to do what the OP can't do on the desktop version - and besides, there's no mention of a model X that has BT, so it's possible that the OP is using an old model S.



I have the suspicion that the programs are overwhelmed with the many small BTC inputs, since I have been getting smaller amounts transferred every day for a long time.

It is very likely that this is exactly the problem, because Electrum has always had a problem with wallets that have a lot of dust transactions. I had a similar problem as you when I first used Electrum many years ago and the way I solved it was to extract the private key from each address and enter it in another wallet. Of course, you have the problem that your main wallet is actually a hardware wallet, and accordingly you cannot see your private keys in Electrum - and not even in Ledger Live as far as I know.

The last option would be to try to extract your private keys from your seed, but that would mean that the seed is compromised. You can read more about it here - but I recommend that you use it as a last option, and that you be extremely careful in every step.

How to find out your private key by SEED phrase.     
2658  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: My father thinks I'm working in a shop,he didn't know I'm bitcointalking. on: February 24, 2023, 03:09:18 PM
I am surprised that everyone is advising not to depend on signature campaign as job. But people have been in Best_Change, chipmixer, Roobet etc campaign for more than 2yrs. While some real time work doesn't even last upto 6 months.

It's just logical advice, but I stated my opinion in my previous post, and from that you can see that I understand why some members have an attitude like the OP's. It is true that some signature campaigns last much more than 2 years, but I think that many members do not rely on them as the main source of income. Without looking at the data, I think that I have been in the CM campaign since the end of 2018, which means about 4 years - and believe it or not, I have not spent a single satoshi so far.

The whole essence of this discussion boils down to the fact that the forum should not be taken as a place where we make money exclusively, but that our earnings from signature campaigns are only additional income. At the end of the day, it's not all about making money, but working in real life has its benefits, because in addition to working for a salary and pension, we also socialize and make friends, which is an important part of our lives.
2659  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This week, I acquired my first Bitcoin, which is a milestone for me. on: February 24, 2023, 12:08:21 PM
~snip~
In my country China, there is no clear regulation that holding or trading Bitcoin is illegal. However, if you purchase or hold Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies and experience loss or fraud, the police will not intervene.

Then we on the forum have been living in the delusion for years that trading and mining of cryptocurrencies is prohibited in China - and you actually claim that this is not the case? Ok, I understand that some people are still mining Bitcoin in China, but it's also a fact that all CEXs stopped serving within China a few years ago, so I'm wondering how you managed to buy more than 1 BTC legally?

Likewise, 2-3 years ago, you could read the news that some Chinese courts intervened and somehow recognized that Bitcoin is a "virtual asset", but nothing more than that.

https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/chinese-court-rules-that-bitcoin-is-property-protected-by-law/
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58678907

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China's central bank has announced that all transactions of crypto-currencies are illegal, effectively banning digital tokens such as Bitcoin.
"Virtual currency-related business activities are illegal financial activities," the People's Bank of China said, warning it "seriously endangers the safety of people's assets".
2660  Economy / Reputation / Re: User @Amph - sale of BTT account via PM! on: February 24, 2023, 11:51:12 AM
Fuck this, Amph is a member who's annoyed me with his drivel since I first registered here and frequented the altcoin section where he posted the most.  There's enough evidence here that he's trying to sell his account to justify a negative trust (which I just left).

Amph, whether you dump your account or not, good luck to you and don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out.

Regardless of the fact that at this moment I cannot prove that I received a private message in which I am offered to buy the account in question here - I can only say that I am glad that at least someone on the entire forum does not think that I am someone who engages in such activities. I see that other members still have doubts, but if necessary, I am ready for one of the respectable members of the forum to get an insight into my account and confirm that the PM is real.



Like I said, they're unlikely to get involved since it's not regarding forum rules. It's a community matter, rather than an issue from a moderation stand point. There's no real way of verifying the message exists without potentially compromising your account, which I absolutely don't suggest you do.

I understand what you're explaining, but still just a simple confirmation that PM is real and that it's not about me actually being the one who did something bad in this whole story would be a perfectly normal move in these situations. Yesterday this happened to me, tomorrow it can happen to someone else, and the shadow of doubt remains if we do not clarify this situation to the end.

Although, it does seem like Amph hasn't exactly disputed they sent that personal message to you. 

His explanations are at least at the level of a beginner who has no idea about some basic things, and the only thing he defends himself with is that I somehow fabricated that message, although he later admits that he did send the message. The evidence he presented in the form of a Telegram screenshot is plain nonsense and only proves how naive he is.

you are a lier nothing else, and your screen don't prove anything either, there are plenty of way to edit any screen or even video so...

btw i'm not seeing that i didn't send that pm, i'm saying that he tell me to do so, to create this topic, that's my point



Given that we have a clear acknowledgment that @Amph sent a PM whose screenshot you can see, it is more than obvious that he admits that he tried to sell his account.
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