you do realise you can make your own right? none of these are trademarked or officially branded. so if you don't like them, which i presume you want something different. you can always make your own.

also just a hint.

if you go to this secret and very unknown website (please dont tell anyone) and search "bitcoin symbol". you will find alot more bitcoin signs
http://images.google.com

dogecoin needs PR. as people wont use it otherwise. there are no 'features or benefits' there is just.......... popularity.

if i offered people £$1 for every person that uses something i made for a month. id get popularity too... but the dogecoin price proves that its not useful long term

[facepalm]
so you googled the term i said and your response and entire research is the copy and paste job of coindesk!!

coindesk doesnt make the news they copy it. coindesk read this forum thread, infact it read this very thread topic we are using now, and just browsed through the limited information from the OP's quote and link.

they did not however check out fidor directly, nor did they check out payward. so your research mission turned out as a dog following its own tail.

try going a few layers deeper then what has been quoted at that meeting and then copied and pasted. verify the news by looking behind the scenes.

here ill spoonfeed you some info about how coindesk tries creating news

the link you posted.. has a quote from fidor

"With Kraken, we can enable our customers to trade Bitcoin and other digital currencies just as securely, easily and flexibly as they trade other foreign currencies today"

the reason i wrote kraken, although coindesk wrote ripple. is because coindesk edits a quote to become ripple. yet when you google the whole quote using the word kraken you will see it's a 8 month old quote about, to be put short. how kraken now has a business account. to accept deposits and do withdrawals, after losing its capital one account (which was not registered as a business account to be used for sending funds to multiple customers)

bitcoin doesnt need sponsorship

thats like saying the dollar or the pound needs sponsorship.

what you will find is companies that use bitcoin will do sponsorship things.

i know bitpay has done alot over the last few years

edit: your nav bar looks better now thanks

edit: your email verification seems slow. i signed up.. no email, no facility to resend verification request
so signed up again using a different email in the hope it was my email providor being sluggish. no email either.

guess i wont be donating that 1000bit bonus to seans outpost afterall

and to others reading this. yep i was prepared to risk 10,000bits to see if it was a scam.. time will tell. i personally hope its not but either way, dont risk large amounts in third party services

if it is legit, it could be a useful wallet for 'pocket money'/small daily amounts.
imagine starbucks having a account per shop where people can just pay by typing in 'starbucks1100' and not need to wait over 10 minutes for confirms due to it being an offchain tx

while waiting 40 minutes for email verification (yet receiving email fine from myself to myself using different emails) i begin exploring the info that is available. and i find a few amusing things

"GoBitMe
provides a set of tools that instantly enables
User to User payments without a third party"

GoBitMe you are the third party!

going below 2 decimals is ugly for common man. but i do agree with bottom up measurements such as 'hectoshi'
where a comparison would be with gold

tonne =bitcoin
ounce = hectoshi / bit / whatever consensus chooses
gram = satoshi

where theres not much multiple decimals but many opportunities for the 'significant figures' to multiply



.. although i am laughing at the poll having centoshi as a option, as thats just wrong

in both cases mentioned above those measurements are both bottom-up measurements. (starting at 1 and going up in increments)

the ubtc mbtc argument (top down going from 1 to 0.1 0.01 etc) is 'hopefully' now dead. and we agree that bottom up is best, starting from 100 satoshi's as the base/popular measurement



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=592691.220


'bit' was at 79% at this posts timestamp.. with a total of 524 votes.

i think thats called a majority, even this topic is showing bits as being a majority

and as for klabaki's trademark 'zib', a few have already worked out that its not so 'unrecognised' and 'unused' as he first thought


whats next a startrek fan trying to push gpl (gold pressed latinum).
bits is the front runner so far,
zib is just a corporate leasing of a brand name just waiting to happen
so lets think smart of better suggestions, or stick with bits

i do love some of those anit-government, anti-corporation, anti-anything people.

especially how the building they are living in was made by a corporation, the internet they use is through a corporations network, the electricity, their water, the clothes they wear, etc. you get the idea, all supplied by corporations.

until i see them living in a mud hut/hand built house on land they have personally bought, wearing clothes made from the wool of sheep that they have grazed, their food is killed or picked using their bare hands from animals and plants on their land.... they have nothing useful to say

bitcoin from now
01 year = $1000
02 year = $1000-$3000
03 year = $3000-$6000
04 year = $6000-$9000
05 year = $9k - $12k
...
...
10 year = $50k - $55k
...
...
20 year = $100k - $?

(dont knit pick the numbers, i know the first 10 years will actually show larger climbs, and then slowdown as the price stabilizes making years 18-20 not much noticable difference leadings SLOWLY upto $100k)

be patient. all good things come to those who wait

i think he ruined his chances as soon as he registered domains for it. instantly centralising the trademark to him

secondly the letter Ƶ is alien in regards to bitcoin

thirdly Ƶ has other recognised meanings (debasing his whole argument about 'bit')

fourthly people will see Ƶ and ponder if it pronounced Zed (euro and canadian) Zee (american) Zib (crypto geeks) causing more confusion

fifthly he tirelessly ignore consensus of most other users that vote on the several polls, almost like a kid being told not to do something, but then doing it anyway.

sixthly by the attitude of point 5 i mentioned, i can see him trying to charge licence fee's for businesses using his word or doing other things for selfishness that goes against a common community agreement.

but i do applaud his efforts, just a shame they are wasted on an idea that already has flaws (in regards to the whole communities view) after only a few days into his campaign

wow klabaki your trying to promote the word zib hard...

just a shame that 99% of the community is not you or else the community would end up using a word you own the trademark of,

so with that said. lets go back to the other 99% and talk about bits as thats the winning word of the week.

but i do applaud your efforts

ok time to not be subtle

after all whats the point in telling everyone that bitcoin is so great due to funds being secured by 256bit and elliptic curved private keys at the back end of a transaction which never appear on the blockchain, if someone can steal funds from the front end that are only 128bit secured using publicly available data

so my next question:

so everyone should be screaming at 'seans outpost' that he can lose all donations in his address tomorrow?? not next year or 10 years time when quantum computers are around.. but tomorrow.

or is this just a hypothetical future-proofing of a possible risk relating to quantum computers maybe in the future cracking 128bit

i only ask this in common human understanding so that the laymen of the world who are already gossiping and starting to FUD spread that bitcoin is already broke due to a re-use address vulnerability

all im reading is about privacy so people cant track you and that a public key will become............ public..

so to quote myself as i think the main point people are truly concerned with is losing their coins, so:


the layman wishes to know SECURITY risk not privacy risk

in 5 years time no one will know your names

without googling it, who was the person that coded the first publicly available web browser
who was the person that invented the first LED TV
who was the first person to invent the bank note

in many years time no one will care about bitcoins inventor. as in reality, he is not around and not involved in peoples lives, people will just be happy in their own world using bitcoin

yes it will be in history books for those that want to read, but to the common person, they have better things to do with their lives. as long as bitcoin is secure, people will use it.

in the end pioneers are stories told by thier grandchildren

i agree, your mother would be happy with both.

online wallets are about as safe as giving money to your distant cousin whom you rarely see or never seen face to face.

you may know them by name, have heard all about how responsible they are and how qualified they are through friends, family or just google searching their name.

but ask yourself would you really give more then a couple hundred dollars to your cousin?

giving parents money for mothers/fathers day is missing the point

its meant to be an act of love to show them they mean alot to you.

money = "cant be arsed to buy you something, so you do the work, heres some money now you find something to buy"

keep money gifts for other occassions

try to explain it to a legit charity that does not care about privacy at all.
example: donation address to seans outpost

he does not care about privacy AT ALL infact he wants the world to know and use that address for donations, and he 'spends' the inputs manytimes a month. explain the risk and/or chance all their donations can be lost by using the same address.

(without meandering into a privacy concern)

XBT for forex BTC, BTC and bitcoin for common people
GBP for forex £, quid and pound for common people
USD for forex $, bucks and dollar for common people

now i think that wraps up the argument