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2661  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to find out a legit ICO? on: January 14, 2017, 04:17:57 PM
Buy ICO coins.. if you profit then it's legit otherwise it's a scam.
It has nothing to do with how they work so don't pay any attention to that FUD.
This is really the indications and you could really answer that question by yourself.This is true that if you gain profit into an ICO then its legit if not then scam.No one could really know the situation if an ICO would go scam or succesful thats why its a wise thing to do is research about a particular ICO if you saw that devs are not hiding themselves and money is own escrowed then theres a possibility but theres no guarantee.

How hard is it to fool people here ?
Does Bitcointalk have a rule forbidding posting scams ?
Escrow ?
I can build one up so i can use it for a big theft later can't i ?
Ident ? ......

All this can be defrauded easily  Roll Eyes

It is in fact NOT POSSIBLE to "use due diligence" when the game is rigged.
2662  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Do Altcoin Dev's Deserve Money ? on: January 14, 2017, 04:10:24 PM
most of what you said here doesn't make any sense to me.
i am saying if they are going to make a pump and dump coin to trade and make profit then why should they deserve any money?
Because it takes efforts to write 1000 lines of code ? I'm talking about actual projects here and not clones.Why would someone spend hours doing that if not for money ? They shouldn't deserve anything but we're not paying them out of our pockets,investors are.

Crock of fucking shit.

Most of it is code re-writing which is not the same.
None of these "coins" from the 6,000+ ANN topics have wrote any meaningful code.
The incessant chanting of innovation is a load of bullshit.

Effort ?
You are CREATING the problem to sell us all the solution.
Your fucking shit coin NEEDS to be created so you stand there and say so i NEED to be paid.

Name one "actual project" that is not a cash grab of crooked scammy bullshit.
And i will show you a market price for it that is 0.001% of the value of Bitcoin ROFL
uhh why ?

Investors ?
This is not the stock market brats.
You can quit calling yourselves "investors" because you are simply PONZI participants.
In the normal financial world the guys running these coins would be in jail.. for fraud etc.
You are not investors in fuck all.
If you were you would hold dev's accountable but you don't.
You let them have premines and wander off years ago..
Now you let them have ICO money and then wander off later.
In any other aspect of humanity these guys would be held accountable.. long term.
Not until you shit heads get bored when the pump ended and you dumped and they ohhhhh so legit dev's are now free to dump to with no over-sight or concern from anyone in the slightest.
All you brats do is jump to another coin at that point.

You all can quit making excuses for bad.
You are not fooling anyone.
All it amounts to is a bunch of scammy pieces of shit lecturing each other preaching to the choir.
The rest of the world Gove 0 fucks ..long ago.

Besides the world would be a far different place if every dev had his hand out demanding millions up front for code mod/rewrite work.
I guess i was doing it wrong all my life.. rather than handing out free compiled software i should have demanded a fortune & cried innovation etc.
Where would Linux be today ?
How about Rockbox ?
Trust me brats there is plenty of free software out there that did not get a giant pile of cash up front.
Many produced a result FIRST and then took donations after the fact.

If you don't have the means to eat while you code and pay your rent then maybe leave the coding to someone who has the financial means to do it.
Maybe some poor corrupt greedy little fucking prick in his basement should not be making the worlds internet currency for the benefit of humanity ?

All i see is greedy immoral bullshitting brats feeding each other the same tired old cliche'd defense retorts to each other year after year.. while all of planet earth ignores this shit.

Think your retarded crypto-faggotry is so legit assholes ?
Walk into a major bank and tell them you want a loan for 1 million dollars to make BlockNET.
..or yet another "mod" of it.
See how that goes dumb fucks LOL

..yup tell 'em Big time crypto-businezz up in here yo.. gonna be corporate company ceo of githubbery up in this bitch.. gonna be like all investors & shit but freedom decentralizaion ICO and mad ROI's and sick fucking innovationz & shit yo.. i jus needz me dem million dollars'sses so i can code's up all them hard'z workz !!!!111 Yeah bruh FREE MARKET dog.. DECENTRALIZAION & SHITZ !!!1 Goona be fuicking sick MOON and mad HODL up in here bro ! SICK FUCKIN' ROI'z !!!
2663  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation on: January 14, 2017, 03:52:13 PM
LEO guys are not even really hiding it that is the messed up thing.

What hide? You stupid poor troll? Dont understand?

LEOcoin foundation and many rich people like me has many coins. With POS we get many free coin every month. Do you now what POS is?

We sell LEOcoin around world because we have many free coins, Foundation have most coins. this is because POS is good if you have many coin. This is marketing.., friend! Wink Wink Wink
This is why LEOcoin is not POW anymore. This is not fraud, it is marketing! And if you buy LEOcoin now, soon will be 1$ with Eterheum anonymous transaction and Debit card Wink Wink Wink

I already had your account on my watch list.
You are transparent and not fooling anyone.
You are here lying and playing games to defraud people of money.. REAL money.
Good luck with that NOOB.

And be grateful i replied to a fucking nooby dummy / sock-puppet account here.
Maybe get 10 posts THEN jiggle your little dick-holster around here scammer.  Wink  Wink  Wink  Wink
2664  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What is the Most Promising AltCoin this 2017? on: January 14, 2017, 03:49:58 PM
I dunno.. maybe create a new account and re-ask the question (or scroll down the page and read the last topic this was asked)

Promising ?

Which one will gimme sick ROI'z ?  Cheesy
2665  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to find out a legit ICO? on: January 14, 2017, 08:08:20 AM
@OP
Are you asking which are LEGIT or are you asking which will make you profits ?
Because the two do not necessarily go hand & hand.. *IF* we were talking about "Mined" coins.

ICO's are scammy & crooked by design and should not be supported at all ever.
If you do then you are supporting Crypto-PONZI Schemes for Profit making scammers rich.
And taking a nasty rotten fat shit all over any and all *REAL* "Legit" coins.

If you are not helping the situation by condemning them you ARE the problem.
2666  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Do Altcoin Dev's Deserve Money ? on: January 14, 2017, 08:01:03 AM
Yes, the devs design every thing about the coin and they try the best marketing strategy to make that coin successful. They design the appropriate wallet and after successful ico, they take steps to list their coins in big exchanges. Nothing can be expected free in this world. When their coin succeeds, you too gain profits by holding their coins. Its a mutual benefit.

There is a successful Altcoin ?
Who knew ? LOL
What do you define as "successful" getting traded fer ROI'z on teh Polo'z ?
A high market cap manipulated by fraudsters and high coin prices ?
Oh wait you said "marketing"
So does that mean you will all cut me a check for a million dollars if i pump out ANN topic 6,501 ?

Nice try son.. but you FAIL  Cheesy
2667  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation on: January 14, 2017, 07:58:07 AM
LEO guys are not even really hiding it that is the messed up thing.
2668  Other / Off-topic / Re: Friday the 13th today. Is it unlucky for you? on: January 14, 2017, 01:51:17 AM
It's been lucky / normal for me..

May the forces of evil get lost on the way to your door step people  Grin
2669  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Do Altcoin Dev's Deserve Money ? on: January 14, 2017, 01:46:35 AM
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Those in the U.S. earned an average after expenses in 2008 of $186,582, versus $125,000 in Canada, $159,000 in Britain and just $92,000 in Australia.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-doctors-still-make-dramatically-less-than-u-s-counterparts-study

So Doctors.. quit your job at put your hand out here and get 1 million cash UP FRONT.
Don't know how to code ? Don't worry about just string all these guy along for a year or two with excuses..

Do you all out there SEE how fucking obscene this bullshit has become ?

Anyway Wink
Thanks for the feedback.. i was not trying to lure people into arguments or anything.
I posted the POLL to survey what you all think.
I tried to clarify what i meant by the poll too.
There is a difference between a guy getting paid AFTER a coin launch and getting a million or two up front.

Personally i think you should have the means to do it or leave it to someone who does.
Get a job THEN launch a coin ?
And really, just how much does a dev need ?

Or i should ask you all..
How much are you willing to tolerate them getting in exchange for a cut of the profits ?
That is the REAL question.
2670  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think "iamnotback" really has the" Bitcoin killer"? on: January 14, 2017, 01:35:11 AM
Damnit Shelby how can a human being like you can live in the poverty man? How's that possible? Fuck if I had your IQ at the age of 50 would be already a billionaire man.


Why don't you make a little ICO with little % of the coins, use it to cure deffinitely your illness and go full to release the true bitcoin killer?

Lot of people is already noticing the centralized problems that BTC is having and will have in the future. It's time to release a true viable and true descentralized coin, and seems that you're the only one who can do this. Don't be a stubborn, make a little ICO, cure your problems and release the kraken!!  Smiley Cheesy



ICO = centralization  Roll Eyes
2671  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [FACTS] ANON Coins = Illegal on: January 14, 2017, 01:29:38 AM
Enjoy your fight then and send me a post card from jail and don't be surprised when Monero is getting it's ass kicked all over by the US authorities one day and that in turn decimates your Poloniex coin prices you all covet so much.. it will be fun watching you all scramble trying to dump first when it's too late and the insiders / whales and exchange staff etc already beat you to it.. and don't be surprised to hear "Network Problems" and not even be able to dump at all.
And recall what i just said about Cryptsy Wink

Dino you and all the rest of you are FULL OF SHIT !

What is the point in doing it with regulations and compliance ?
You tell me you are doing it right now.
What in the hell do think using a compliant exchange means ?
You have the fucking nerve to spew this teen rebel bullshit at me then dog-pile over to Polo or Cryptsy or Coinbase.

What's the point ?

..the point is to talk a whole lot of bullshit then do the opposite of your little freedom speeches.

Want to support an Anon coin then i sure fucking hell better not find out you are registered at Poloniex like a fucking lippy little hypocrite.

Cut the fucking crap and grow up people.
From one end of crypto to the other regulations / law are already here !
Claim your Poloniex profits with taxation ? Ripple got fined by FINCEN ?

Sorry children it's a little bit too late to spew the "freedom" bullshit LOL
And if you do then back up your mouth.. stop using govt complaint exchanges like a two faced lying little back stabbing cancer to crypto rat.
Stop violating the principles top pad your wallets then say the opposite on Bitcointalk.
Fuck off with your lies and games and bullshit scammy greedy little profiteers.
I don't want to hear it..

ACTIONS speak louder than words.. get your ass in gear and quit spewing stupid bullshit here non-stop and back up your mouth.

I am not about the idealism.. i actually like the idea of an anon coin.
But i don't like bullshitters who spew crap for Bitcoin ROI's.
I like practical and realistic solutions.. if anon can be done properly then yeah go for it.
Don't half ass it then make claims that are impossible such as adoption is coming eventually etc.

EDIT:

In other words i don't care about the anon concept it does not bother me.
What bothers me is the massive facade i have outlined in this topic.
Do an ANON coin that does not have these problem(s) and i will have 0 complaints.
2672  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple and bitshares rated the most insecure blockchain software by China CERT on: January 14, 2017, 01:16:44 AM
There are some things common to both Ripple and Bitshares

1. Both are Proof of Stake coin

2. Both have more than  billion tokens

3. Both are centralised

I'm not surprised about the report at all. I think we need independent research like this to expose flaws like this to protect investors

Why is BTS centralised?

Because it's another ICO scam.
2673  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to find out a legit ICO? on: January 14, 2017, 01:10:31 AM
Some of the people have provided some good points but some have provided that ask them for showing their faces while at here I am collecting points about anonymous ICOs to find about them. I want to make this thread as rich of knowledge about anonymous ICOs to find legit among them.

Your wasting your time.
You are getting the same old crap.
This same exact topic gets posted every few days by noobs who don't know how to use a forum search button.
They all will end up getting the same replies.

Trust me i know i have seen the same handful of cliche'd topics repeated endlessly here over the years.
It's odd too because any other forum on the web would delete them all..
This place is fucked right up though.. bump an old topic and they will bitch at you and deleted your reply.
Re-post the same tired old crap questions endlessly and you're in their good books.
See the underlying point ? Forum database waste ?
Seems kind of fucking retarded to me.  Roll Eyes

You said..
"I want to make this thread as rich of knowledge about anonymous ICOs to find legit among them"

So do you think the self-entitled little brats asking for personal 1 on 1 assistance will use the search button and find this topic ?
LOL of course not  Cheesy
..they will simply re-ask the same tired old question.

How to find Legit ones ?
That is retarded.. there isn't any.

You showed up here OP to make money obviously...
So a legit one is one that makes you money and a scammy one is one you lose money on.
So start a new topic asking how do i get rich at Bitcointalk "investing" in ICO PONZI scheme's

So ?
Good luck i hope you get mad ROI'z yo !
Hope them ICO shitcoin investments make you sick rich bro !
Welcome to crypto and glad your here.. know any other "traders" that want to flog shitcoins for BTC ?
2674  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: can't access mymonero.com how do i retrieve my Monero? on: January 14, 2017, 12:59:37 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1749574.msg17482315#msg17482315

Web wallets are better than exchanges since you are largely in control of your own keys, but aren't as reliable or secure as running your own node. Instructions above for how to import your keys into a different wallet.

Web wallets are good because you are in control of your keys ?

hmm who knew ? I guess you learn something new everyday  Cheesy
2675  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / [POLL] Do Altcoin Dev's Deserve Money ? on: January 13, 2017, 05:08:28 PM
This has come up before lots.. What do you all think ?

Do Dev's deserve a large sum of money simply for making a coin ?

There seems to be a large sense of entitlement in crypto.
Usually masked with excuses like they need the money for some "legit" reason.
For example..
V. Butters dumped 1 million dollars worth of ICO coins and it was said he had 3 more million.
How the fuck did he manage to get 4 million dollars worth of ETH coins ?
And Why did he sell them off ? We don't know.. he never did say why.

Another example..
The dev of BlockNET was asking for a million dollars in Bitcoin with his ICO.
When i asked him why he needed so much he told me "To ensure it's a success"

Like come on people how the hell is this acceptable standard practice ? WTF  Huh

Anyway vote or comment if you want.
And by large sum i mean amounts greater than what a guy would get from a standard run of the mill coding job.
Pointing out how most do NOT become instant millionaires.
..unless they are crypto ICO coin dev's that is  Roll Eyes
2676  Other / Off-topic / Re: Heisenberg's Uncertain Eyes on: January 13, 2017, 04:54:51 PM
You seen the old experiment that impressed Einstein ?
A guy i can't recall tested shooting a lazer or light beam at a plate with lots of holes in it..
Then he looked at the wall and the pattern was on the wall..
Then he looked at the lazer and the pattern was more focused etc. It actually changed !
Looking at it actually changed the wall pattern.

Even more fucked up is years later other scientists took the test even further..
They tested observing the beam after it had left the device but right before it hit the plate.
This according to them showed how the way it was hitting seemed like it was the viewer going back in time and making a change.

Probably the weirdest confirmed scientific experiments i ever heard of.
Which sounds sort of related to what you were talking about.
I probably did a crappy job explaining it though LOL
2677  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cash is not safe on: January 13, 2017, 04:42:16 PM
http://www.nestmann.com/civil-forfeiture-of-cash-it-could-happen-to-you

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Proving that your cash is connected to a crime is surprisingly easy to demonstrate. That's because 97% or more of cash circulating today contains tiny concentrations of narcotics residues—primarily cocaine. All police need to do is to bring in a drug-sniffing dog to inspect the cash.  If the dog alerts, police seize the cash. And, under civil forfeiture rules, it's up to you to prove that the cash has a legitimate origin.

Consider the case of Emiliano Gomez Gonzolez. During a traffic stop, Nebraska state troopers asked Gonzolez for permission to search his vehicle. During the search, the troopers found bundles of currency totaling $124,700. Based on a dog sniff, police seized all the money.

Gonzolez contested the forfeiture in court. Prosecutors neither convicted nor accused Gomez or any of the other owners of the seized cash of any crime. Nor did police find any drugs, drug paraphernalia, or drug records connected to the cash. Despite these facts, a federal appeals court upheld the confiscation of every dollar found in the vehicle.

No mention if he had a known criminal history though.. i bet he did too !
I know a guy thrown away for Bank Robbery even though they got the guy who actually did it to testify he was the guilty one.. some old lady swore it was the wrong guy and the judge threw the book at him.
The problem was the guy i know had a history of bank robbery before.
And he told me he didn't do it..
He said i had done plenty before and after that incident but i did not do that EXACT one.

It's context..
2678  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [FACTS] ANON Coins = Illegal on: January 13, 2017, 04:37:20 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160612.msg1698149#msg1698149

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Bitcoin: The Digital Kill Switch

by Shelby H. Moore III

March 29, 2013

Bitcoin is the first peer-to-peer (P2P) digital currency and payment system to gain significant interest. This month its marketcap surpassed $1 billion.

P2P currencies promise some differences from credit cards, such as increased privacy, no control by authorities, instant signup, lower fees for the merchant, and no chargebacks (buyer at the mercy of the merchant to issue refund if dispute).

Unlike a credit card which allows the merchant to see your details, making unauthorized charges to your P2P account is impossible, unless you allow someone to get your private key. Note credit cards are adding for example Verified By Visa to provide a similar degree of security.

The government control increased on March 13, when FinCEN ruled that transactions for goods and services paying with P2P currency are not regulated, yet exchange to other currencies is regulated and can't be anonymous. Since most users need to exchange from legal tender to and from P2P currencies, some of the purported privacy has already been lost. Also instant signup has been effectively eliminated for many, as now many new users must "practically give a DNA sample" to become verified by exchange providers— however this tsuris may not exist in all jurisdictions.
2679  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to find out a legit ICO? on: January 13, 2017, 04:27:14 PM
Take a look at this... http://icorating.com It is currently in BETA but quite an interesting project.

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ICOrating specializes in evaluating companies with a planned ICO. ICOrating's analysis is thorough and objective, reviewing companies as potential investment objects.


Their rating is scheme is straight forward. Take a look at a few of their reports for Past or Current ICOs.

You have 1 comment and your handing out trade advice ?
Where else on the web would that crap fly ? WOW  Roll Eyes
They need to reinstate the nooby jail i think.
2680  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum is the future of crypto, bitcoin is not. on: January 13, 2017, 04:16:07 PM
Bitcoin is a currency and Ethereum is a smart contracts platform (NOT A CURRENCY) so you can't compare the two. Both need to exist and we need more solutions to other problems. Thankfully we have plenty of ICOs to cover those areas. I'm sure we'll see much more...

Factually incorrect.

As well as value store and faster/cheaper value transfer, Ethereum also does value programability (designed in from first principles - i.e. not a bolt-on).

Ethereum has some of Bitcoin's primitive libraries at its heart (the good stuff) but has learned from Bitcoin, re-architected and reimagined cryptocurrency.

It has also reimagined its people and has catalysed a vibrant community of incredibly diverse people.

He is correct.
And the "fuel tokens" have no intention of "beating" Bitcoin.
You are full of shit and simply made up a slop of crap the dev never claimed.
It's been posted endlessly why ETH can not compete with BTC but you shill's just ignore it and post lies and rail on with it all.
I already had to look up your post history in the past.. i had you red-flagged.

Roach posted the best technical explanation in layman's terms i seen here before why BTC can not be dethroned by "Fuel Tokens"
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