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September 05, 2013, 09:56:09 PM
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http://www.nestmann.com/civil-forfeiture-of-cash-it-could-happen-to-you

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Proving that your cash is connected to a crime is surprisingly easy to demonstrate. That's because 97% or more of cash circulating today contains tiny concentrations of narcotics residues—primarily cocaine. All police need to do is to bring in a drug-sniffing dog to inspect the cash.  If the dog alerts, police seize the cash. And, under civil forfeiture rules, it's up to you to prove that the cash has a legitimate origin.

Consider the case of Emiliano Gomez Gonzolez. During a traffic stop, Nebraska state troopers asked Gonzolez for permission to search his vehicle. During the search, the troopers found bundles of currency totaling $124,700. Based on a dog sniff, police seized all the money.

Gonzolez contested the forfeiture in court. Prosecutors neither convicted nor accused Gomez or any of the other owners of the seized cash of any crime. Nor did police find any drugs, drug paraphernalia, or drug records connected to the cash. Despite these facts, a federal appeals court upheld the confiscation of every dollar found in the vehicle.

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September 06, 2013, 07:25:05 AM
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I never asserted with complete certainty that Bitcoin was designed to fail on purpose. I suspect it, based on several design decisions which doom Bitcoin.

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1. The blockchain can't scale to Visa-scale transaction volume.

Bitcoin's blockchain can scale if it is run by big corporations, which is what I've read that Satoshi suggested for the future and what the core devs of Bitcoin acknowledged. The link to that is some where buried upthread.

I agree with all of your points and hope you will not just talk about it, but get some people together and do something with it, too.  If you create a new competitor to Bitcoin, let us know so we can be the first one's to buy a lot of coins up early, while they're cheap.  Also, you will help save the poor, people who already have normal computers, as they will be able to stay in the mining game without having to have money they don't have to upgrade to Asics which hardly ever get shipped anyway.  We would be essentially all making money right now, instead of being slaves to some new hardware like Sony playstation fanboys waiting in line with tents on the open street to be the first to buy a box. 

You'll need to make a video saying why Bitcoin is bad overall to introduce why yours is even better.  And you should let people who have Bitcoins now trade them (for a limited time) for your coins who wish to get out of Bitcoins and into your coin, whatever it is to be.  Then you cash those out and buy stock in your own coins with it to drive up the value.  Just some thoughts.  I like where you're going with this:  I am FOR anything that helps DEFEAT the NWO and the psychotic cleptocrats running the military industrial complex which is heading us all toward global slavery.  Thanks!
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September 06, 2013, 10:36:55 AM
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Would it be possible if we had a preliminary input document for the design of this project?
A Requirement Specification, Modeling Framework, Implementation Proposal whatever?

Then you (and others) could modify it until it's stable and move on to the next stage towards coding.

It would be the next logical step after this thread which is awesome but things need to be a bit more concrete IMHO.

Of course you may already have started this on your own and I do know that you are a lonely coder but it would be great if you could let us watch this project evolving and feeling the honor and pleasure to help a bit with it!

Cheers.  Smiley
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September 10, 2013, 02:56:18 AM
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US will attack Assad at some point. When Assad is backed into a corner,  he will attack Israel. Israel will destroy Damascus( Isaiah 17 says it happens overnight and Israel does it)  and perhaps Aleppo , Homs Other targets include Ammon Jordan, Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinians , Egypt, Lebanon,  and SA but only after they all confederate and attack Israel(psalm 83 war scenario ). Maybe we see Bushehr attacked by Israel.     - God Intervenes on Israel's behalf and kicks butt, they all lose, Israel wins and gains great territory. Israel will suffer casualties also but they become the next mideast superpower.  

   Russia already said they don't intend to be dragged into this conflict.  They put the deliver of S 300 missiles to Assad on hold. This tells the west that Russia intends to throw Syria under the bus.  Russian ships in the med are a symbolic gesture and there to help evacuate Russians from Syria and monitor and eavesdrop.  China lacks a blue water navy and other than sending a ship to monitor and eavesdrop, it won't participate in this war militarily.  If Russia wanted to start something, they would bring in squadrons of top fighter jets/pilots to Syria and place them at every air base.  They have not done this because they are not going to participate.

Yeah but why is Russia not going to participate?

Because Russia also wants the Middle East to fall into chaos, so that they won't receive that competition for oil and gas pipeline to Europe.

Russia is pretending to be the good guy to gain international power, yet they also want the USA to attack, but they want to be in public position of being against it, so when they profit from oil, no one will accuse them.

Harboring Snowden is to gain that appearance of being against the USA.

In fact, the oil powers want to have monopoly on oil and want to put the M.E. into chaos, as they ramp up production in the USA (Russia has its production with a strong military to protect it) and interfere with production any where else in the world, e.g. Spratly Islands in South China / West Philippines Sea, in Nigera, Middle East, Venezuela, etc.


> I thought about this scenario several times and was
> not convinced it has a high degree of probability.The
> level of destruction you describe would destroy the
> already teetering global economy and unleash chaos in
> the developed world.  I don't believe TPTB are able or
> willing to simultaneously risk a battle on the home front
> and international conflict, esp. at a time when public
> consciousness is about to reach a tipping point.

They need to blame the economic implosion coming on something. Better to blame it on Obama, than the banks.

I pretty sure about this. They always planned to sacrifice Obama, as they did Hitler.

> Of course, it's important to consider all possibilities.
> I strongly suspect that many times Russia straddles the
> globalism framework and might routinely cooperate in the
> geopolitical theater.  I did warn today in comments on the
> Syria issue that we should be aware that the worlds' elites
> might cooperate to share M.E. power and profits and in the
> process come to an agreement to control the masses in their
> global techno fascist surveillance prison.  That being said,
> I don't think the Russians want to be bootlickers for western
> elites, especially after the way they were humiliated when their economy collapsed - made to grovel.  Let's hope egos and
> centuries of mistrust force a compromise of a multipolar world,
> that would give us some breathing room. As I said before, maybe
> plan B is to foment unrest in the Gulf monarchy states.  That
> would work out well for the western elites and Russia, plus
> Russia's satellite Syria would be spared.  Maybe what is
> happening now is the big set up for "plan B," the expected
> compromise (kind of Hegelian too).  That would be very slick
> and the staging has the trademark appearance of Brzezinski et al.

It is possible Syria and Saudi will be spared, but how do you get chaos in the Middle East to both provide distraction about the economy and also to give the USA a monopoly on energy without chaos in Syria (thus Iran, Israel, etc)?

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September 10, 2013, 03:22:44 AM
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B(asic)Miner and klee, unfortunately I don't have time to work on it right now, because I am coding a new computer language Copute:

http://copute.com/dev/docs/Copute/ref/compiler/Xtext/

https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/scala-debate/LWBz3-Q0pNI

But someone has contacted me anonymously and I am advising them anonymously and they will begin work on it. I am very happy this person has taken my advice and decided to use Scala with JNI in C for any time-critical sections, so I hopefully can make contributions to the effort. I am eager to see if this person is legit. The skills he/she has claimed are sufficient.

I am under the impression the person comes from the Scala world, and contacted me because I was pushing to use Scala for the coding starting from Bitcoinj as a reference source.

If anyone wants to join this effort, contact me. Feel free to be anonymous or not. But please only if you are a top caliber programmer. I have suggested that it be premined a few % only (and then turn it over to the community), to pay those who helped develop it and fund bounties for more development on it.

I don't think it is necessary to heavily bash Bitcoin. Bitcoin is helping create the market, i.e. we need them. I think the anonymity and the PC mining will be enough to drive the excitement. They key is how to do the anonymity correctly such that even he bad boys can't packet filter it.

I hope you all have seen my posts about how to get your electricity at very low-cost and how we can decentralize energy of the world with this new coin:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=285701.msg3090924#msg3090924

Please realize that programming is by nature very tediously detail-oriented (tsuris) and thus slow. I am not standing still. I am not only talking.

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September 12, 2013, 07:20:41 PM
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“This kind of communication cannot be defeated by future advances in computing power, nor new mathematical algorithms, nor fancy new engineering,”

This is a very important issue, because Bitcoin-like currencies store encrypted records in the blockchain forever. Even if one anonymizes using ring-signatures as I propose, that is secure for now, but in some future time, the NSA might have the power to break into those past records.

One hopes that future time would be decades so that the data would be too stale to be a threat. But with the rise of quantum computers, that future time could come sooner. This is something I want to study more and see if I can come up with a near-term reasonable strategy.

> You probably already know about this...Toshiba has invented a quantum
> cryptography network that even the NSA can’t
> hackhttp://qz.com/121143/toshiba-has-invented-a-quantum-cryptography-network-that-even-the-nsa-cant-hack/

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October 11, 2013, 06:59:27 AM
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http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=5044

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@Shenpen:
In theory, a Chaum dcnet or mixnet darknet ("subnet") might be resistant to government filtering if the economy (and perhaps even the government itself) depended on it without a suitable non-anonymizing and non-encrypted replacement. Or if the packets and ports were indistinguishable from sanctioned content. Tor and I2P are vulnerable to timing attacks because they do not use constant packet sizes nor randomize relaying order and latency.

I do not believe all nations on earth can get all business to use sanctioned encryption protocols (with back doors) before the coming global economic smash.

Thus filtering non-sanctioned protocols will cause business to run to other nations which do not filter, e.g. perhaps Brazil which is very angry about the NSA revelations.

In short, the prosperity will lie with those nations which don't filter and the global economy will do a rapid techtonic shift from those who do.

So the answer to the problem is subnet. And some of us are already working on it. If the USA wants to shoot themselves in the foot, then I hope they don't let the door hit in them in the ass.

Finally esr writes about what I had been warning about for several years. No one believed me about the real devolution of USA government.

I will not post again on this site. You guys are too slow.

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October 13, 2013, 02:22:00 AM
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I am no longer able to completely trust the security in Bitcoin:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309594.msg3328064#msg3328064

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October 13, 2013, 02:34:55 AM
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I am no longer able to completely trust the security in Bitcoin:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309594.msg3328064#msg3328064

What do you mean "no longer"?  Your only purpose here is to promote anonymint, so you obviously have a vested interest in distrusting your competitor Bitcoin, and have done so from the moment you joined this site.

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September 04, 2014, 01:34:58 PM
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I hope everyone realizes I was correct when I wrote "Bitcoin : The Digital Kill Switch" in March 2013.

Don't you see? The powers-that-be planted Bitcoin in order to force the nation-states to adopt their own digital currencies.

Thud! It just hit my consciousness.

We don't have much time remaining:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/09/03/ecuador-will-be-the-first-country-to-start-digital-currency/

Powers-that-be are also taking control over Butthurtcoin, with mining centralized in a couple of pools, and soon the money supply locked up off-chain:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.msg8649126#msg8649126
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.msg8663871#msg8663871

My original theory of Bitcoin was that it was created by TPTB to suck in the high-tech libertarians and keep them preoccupied on speculation and greed so they wouldn't actually develop Nick Szabo's idea into something that could actually challenge the NWO plan. It seems they are succeeding. The ETFs will be concrete boots on Bitcoin...

We sent out a request of information regarding Ecuadorian bitcoinpolicies to the central bank of Ecuador since we recently have imported the first Lamassu bitcoin ATM machine into the country. You can read the responses from the Ecuadorian Central Bank and the Superintendencia de Bancos y Seguros here: https://www.mediafire.com/?lbmdn0677s8tx1e

So Ecuador are following in the footsteps of Bolivia and have decided to effectively ban every business model that has to do with Bitcoins and seize total control of the money system. The central bank will launch their own "electronic money"-system based on the USD later this year.

So right now we need to get rid of the Lamassu ATM-machine. It's completely new. I can ship it with FedEx anywhere in the world. And it can be picked up in Quito, Ecuador as well.

Taking bids on the machine, will sell to highest bidder! Price new was $5000 and it was a 3 month waiting time to get it delivered. If you buy it from me, you will have it sent straight away with FedEx or any other courier you wish to use. It is possible to do escrow on the deal as well.

Who am I? I used to sell bitcoins on localbitcoins under the name BitcoinsEcuador : https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/bitcoinsecuador/ Until someone hijacked my localbitcoins-account, so the account has unfortunately been banned, but you can search for BitcoinsEcuador on the localbitcoins forum and those posts will explain the situation surrounding the hijacking. I'm back on localbitcoins as bitcoinsecuador2 : https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/bitcoinsecuador2/ If you contact me and are interested in buying the machine I can give you more verification of my identity.

Matthew at Lamassu is also aware of our situation regarding the ATM, you can talk to him as well. matthew.carano@lamassu.is

For more information on the Lamassu bitcoin ATM read more on https://lamassu.is

E-mail: bitcoinsecuador@countermail.com



 Ecuador is planning to create the world's first government-issued digital currency, which some analysts believe could be a first step toward abandoning the country's existing currency, the U.S. dollar, which the government cannot control.

The virtual currency, which Central Bank officials say they expect will start circulating in December, does not yet have a name and officials would not disclose technical details, though they said it would not be like Bitcoin. The amount of the new currency created would depend on demand.

Deputy director Gustavo Solorzano said it is to exist in tandem with the greenback and, by law, be backed by liquid assets. It would be geared toward the 2.8 million Ecuadoreans - 40 percent of participants in the economy - too poor to afford traditional banking, officials say.

Users initially will be able to make and receive payments at minimal cost using their cellphones, Solorzano said. Such mobile payments schemes are already popular in African nations including Kenya and Tanzania, where they are privately run.

The new currency was approved, and stateless crypto-currencies such as Bitcoin simultaneously banned, by Ecuador's National Assembly last month.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_ECUADOR_DIGITAL_MONEY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-08-29-08-28-04


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September 04, 2014, 04:50:07 PM
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...nation-states to adopt their own digital currencies.

And what does that change? Most developed nations already use digital currency, as most payments are in electronic form. How does this affect crypto currencies though, which are stateless? Care to explain?

Sounds like AnonyMint is a tinfoil hat if he is suggesting that a centralized crypto currency like Equadors state currency, will over take Bitcoin.

Currently about 6 billion people in the world still use cash. They are the future, because the have:

1. The youth.
2. Not the retirees.
3. Not the debt.
4. Not the massive social system, taxes, and unfunded liabilities.
5. Not the destroyed family unit and reproduction.

What they adopt is what rules the world.

Already in Hong Kong, most everyone swipes a digital card to pay most transactions. I was there in January 2014.

India recently started to move towards adopting a digital currency and digital tagging of all the population.

The model predicts the financial capital of the world will shift to Shanghai and the developing world.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/08/05/the-shift-from-west-to-the-east/



Now fuck off with your nonsense, ill-informed, Butthurtcoin posts.

The window of opportunity is closing while you all stroke your useless (bankrupt) Caucasian pride.

Butthurtcoin is pushing the nation-states to adopt their own national digital currencies, while Butthurtcoin is scaling too slow to be a ubiquitous replacement. And Butthurtcoin is failing and falling under control of a rich boys club.

The government is all about having control, they could run their own Bitcoin and force people to use it. But who would support THAT government? The rest of the world wouldn't care about it and the truth to the Equador people would get out there as long as we have the internet for communication.

In the long term anything that is controlled by one or few people, would not be supported by the rest of the crowd.

You are so naive. The people in the developing world could give a rats ass about our idealism and problems with bloated socialism. They don't have high taxes, bloated social systems.

They need to get paid to buy food. They will accept payment in what ever they are paid with. They are already adopting oDesk which they can withdraw with their ATM card. The governments will plug their digital currencies into this.

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September 04, 2014, 06:44:18 PM
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In 2050, USD and EUR will be shit nothing, smart people will have put a % of their savings in BTC, metals and asian money will be half of the pie. Print this post.
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January 13, 2017, 04:42:16 PM
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http://www.nestmann.com/civil-forfeiture-of-cash-it-could-happen-to-you

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Proving that your cash is connected to a crime is surprisingly easy to demonstrate. That's because 97% or more of cash circulating today contains tiny concentrations of narcotics residues—primarily cocaine. All police need to do is to bring in a drug-sniffing dog to inspect the cash.  If the dog alerts, police seize the cash. And, under civil forfeiture rules, it's up to you to prove that the cash has a legitimate origin.

Consider the case of Emiliano Gomez Gonzolez. During a traffic stop, Nebraska state troopers asked Gonzolez for permission to search his vehicle. During the search, the troopers found bundles of currency totaling $124,700. Based on a dog sniff, police seized all the money.

Gonzolez contested the forfeiture in court. Prosecutors neither convicted nor accused Gomez or any of the other owners of the seized cash of any crime. Nor did police find any drugs, drug paraphernalia, or drug records connected to the cash. Despite these facts, a federal appeals court upheld the confiscation of every dollar found in the vehicle.

No mention if he had a known criminal history though.. i bet he did too !
I know a guy thrown away for Bank Robbery even though they got the guy who actually did it to testify he was the guilty one.. some old lady swore it was the wrong guy and the judge threw the book at him.
The problem was the guy i know had a history of bank robbery before.
And he told me he didn't do it..
He said i had done plenty before and after that incident but i did not do that EXACT one.

It's context..

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