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2681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] do you take anything out of Spoetnik mouth serious? on: December 19, 2015, 11:05:50 PM

btw i end the discussion with you now by hitting the ignore button. i dont see any sense in it. feel free to continue to cry how superb you are or how bad monero seems to you. that also means that my offer to close this thread is no longer valid, because i cant see it. if it gets quoted i'll do it.

Welcome to a world without the dysfunctional rants of Spoetnik--birds chirp, the sun shines, the food tastes better, it's beautiful.
2682  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Honestly, which is better? Monero or Dash? on: December 19, 2015, 05:25:02 PM
Listening to fud about Dash Evolution and all Dash's achievements bringing Dash somehow to its knees
is like listening to the Maya's predicting the end of the world.. and we all know how that ended.

Sorry, Dash is not equivalent to the world ending, maybe for you and your portfolio (but nice effort to skirt the criticisms).

thanks, to be honest it wasn't that difficult to skip the criticisms when the person doing the criticisms obviously has not been
studying the code itself and just proved that to the whole forum watching

He responded to Evan's post and Evan has yet to post a response, so the claiming victory is deceitful or fails to comprehend how dominantly TPTB_need_war dispensed with Evan's clumsy explanation (Don't worry, I'll post it again on the next page in case your tit for tat non-statements bury it on this page).
2683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 19, 2015, 05:17:26 PM
A space station may not be the most interesting thing that you buy with your Monero. Have you considered immortality?

I've been researching Aubrey de Grey, Ray Kurzweil, Peter Thiel, Ellison, Brin, etc. and other people who are researching or supporting life extension. It seems that there are a lot of smart people who believe that we'll be able to realistically extend our lives to 120+ years. That will then be enough, for some of us, to survive until the point where technology allows us to extend our lives indefinitely.

But the first generation of immortals will need lots of money. Read more here:
http://www.newsweek.com/2015/03/13/silicon-valley-trying-make-humans-immortal-and-finding-some-success-311402.html







Newsflash: It's impossible to experience nothingness, therefore you can only ever experience somethingness, therefore you are eternal.



No, that doesn't equal you being eternal. It equals your experience being limited to when you are alive which is why people are trying to extend their lives.... So they can have more experiences and maybe switch a career after they've spent a natural lifetime mastering one, or maybe experience what it's like to be young again or be rich or live long enough to travel off this crappy rock that encourages the eat or be eaten lifestyle, which is why i want my investments to succeed and i can enjoy my space yacht with my hot android GFs. (see how i got that back on topic  Wink )

Perhaps you're looking at the situation too dogmatically. Deckard would surely confirm that memories (and reality) is something of a slippery fish. Impossible to confirm, absolutely.

But if it's impossible to experience nothingness, then it's impossible up experience nothingness.

Somethingness prevails.

Perhaps your're being chimerical.

You need a brain ATM to experience something in your current human form, therefore if that dies, so do all your human experiences. I'm sure the dead atoms that fall off your body on a daily basis have some sort of experience, but that's not the experience I want to extend to if that's eternal life.

(sorry, smooth, please delete for being off topic--just needed to make my point clear)

Atoms, brains, humans - terms that relate to the religion of science. I'm talking absolute objectivity here. But I'm not going to get into an argument with a fellow Monero-dude.

Let's talk about this post-mortem.  Wink

Deal, if somehow the mechanisms responsible for language, hearing, and speaking survive brain and body termination.
2684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Honestly, which is better? Monero or Dash? on: December 19, 2015, 05:14:35 PM
Listening to fud about Dash Evolution and all Dash's achievements bringing Dash somehow to its knees
is like listening to the Maya's predicting the end of the world.. and we all know how that ended.

Sorry, Dash is not equivalent to the world ending, maybe for you and your portfolio (but nice effort to skirt the criticisms).
2685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Honestly, which is better? Monero or Dash? on: December 19, 2015, 05:08:22 PM
^Hey Qwizzie, I think you missed this reply from TPTB_need_war quoted from this thread only one page prior to the page we are now.

Maybe a little early to be doing a victory lap.

IX requires 6 of 10 signatures to create a transaction lock.

Which is exactly what I wrote it must do, and exactly what I wrote when I surmised that your white paper was implying the highly jammable design of 10-of-10.

But as I pointed out in the correct math (which is clear you still haven't grasped), even 6-of-10 can be jammed 62% of the time (and multiply spent the other 38% of the time) given a 50% attack on the masternodes (i.e. the 50% attack on masternodes can attack 100% of the InstantX transactions). Even at 10% attack on masternodes, then every 666th UTXO can be jammed and roughly every 10,000th UTXO can be multiply spent. So if there are 66,600 UXTO, then a 10% attack on the masternodes (i.e. controlling 10% of the masternodes) roughly can jam 100 of the available UXTO and double-spend (actually multiply spend, i.e. unlimited lies can be announced by masternodes) 7 of them.

These sort of flaws are amateurish. You are in over your head. You are a programmer and some sort of finance person and a reasonably good marketer mining the gullible speculators (but not to actual users of currency), but you are not capable enough on the block chain theory.

This entire argument is based on an invalid premise! So your jamming attack doesn't work...

Nope. My entire argument is you apparently still don't know how to do basic probability math.

Will you attempt to copy my design and order Dash's masternode announcements? Then will you try to copy my design and merge all the orphans? If not, you will still have attack flaws in your design. Will you replace the deposit for controlling a masternodes with a nomination by PoW, so as to avoid the flaw of externalities that can finance the purchase of masternodes, e.g. shorting the coin.

Well even if you do manage to copy my design, you still can't fix the fact that attacking masternodes is a one-time cost and not sublinear (ongoing cost) as per attacking a correctly designed PoW coin (which is the point that has been made by myself, monsterer, and smooth). And thus Dash is a proof-of-stake security model, not a proof-of-work. Thus it can be undermined by for example combining shorting with attacking masternodes. And you won't get all the small details correct, because you simply don't have enough smart people helping you, because apparently the smart people don't want to work on your closed source during development (and very well documented allegations: fraud) coin. I would never work on your coin, because you have no usership. It is all marketing to speculators to mine the speculators. What is the point? We are supposed to be creating crypto to change the world and entice millions or billions of users. But that has never been your marketing plan. You've always been mining the speculators instead.

And also I do believe the SEC will be coming after you eventually for very clearly running an unregistered illegal investment security (and you come from the finance world so you know very well that you are skirting the securities law). Hope you've paid off the regulators with the $million you mined from the gullible speculators in crypto. Personally I don't see how it has been worth it. The $million you've perhaps pocketed will never sustain you to be rich for the rest of your life, and you will constantly have hanging over your head the threat of SEC action at any time in the future. That is criminal liability in exchange for $million. Not worth it. You are nearing the end of the road for your run.

When I originally assisted you on some of the errors in your original design which caused you to invent masternodes, I viewed you as a nice guy who was trying to develop something. When all these allegations of fraud and premine crap came out, I was very shamed that I had let you get away with promoting Dash. I always knew that Dash was a barely literate design (come on do you really want me to explain how your new anonymity design will be just as flawed as the current on in Dash!), but I didn't want to interfere because I am not the altcoin police (unlike smooth who sometimes tries to act like a sheriff). But really I have to tell you frankly, that I am ashamed that you have mined the speculators and not proposed any real impact for mass usership. And now you have the audacity to go pumping up this Evolution design as some great innovation and fooling more gullible speculators. I mean if you hadn't of done the fraud thing, I would probably not be hitting you so hard now. Again I don't go around harping on the fraud thing, because I am not the altcoin police. But pleeeaaaseee do not try to argue that you are capable on block chain theory tech. You are not.

I don't want to help you because you are doing evil in terms of the goals we as a community are trying to reach. You are siphoning away money from the community and not putting it towards actual innovation (both marketing and technical) that could really help us deal with the problem of a State gone amok. Help us to reach the ideals of crypto. Instead you are just mining the speculators and they seem to believe you are technically capable. You are capable enough to produce code, and you are capable enough to correct mistakes that are pointed out to you. But you are not capable enough to get the really smart people to work with you on ongoing basis, because you are not going in the correct direction in terms of the purpose of why we are here supporting crypto in the first place, which is to get millions of users to use crypto and to better the world (while also making money from increased adoption, not from mining from each other i.e. extracting money from each other in zero-sum game on this forum).

Maybe if you mea culpa on the premine crap and work towards bettering the world instead fooling (ahem marketing to the) the speculators, then maybe I would feel like helping you. But any way, I am moving forward on trying to move the crypto world forward in the direction it needs to be going. Maybe you should help me! I helped you before and you made a lot of money from me standing aside and not criticizing Dash in the early days. Maybe now it is time for you to pay back to the community.

And most definitely you can't duplicate my marketing plan directly to millions of users.

This is the end of the road for Dash.

It will be evident some weeks from now that Dash has no future.

Edit: I will look at your source code links when I have time. I need to head out the door to do errands. If I discover that any of my points are incorrect, I will mea culpa. Again I don't hate you, but I feel I must be frank about the technology because we really need innovation that help us reach the goals of crypto and not just half-assed tech from guys who design schemes to siphon off the capital of crypto into their pockets. And again I have studied the SEC regulations and all these marketing to speculators is clearly a violation of the Howey test for being an unregistered illegal investment security. It doesn't matter how you've obfuscated it by pretending the masternodes are in control, the Supreme Court has consistently said that the test overlooks any attempts to obfuscate the economic reality of the situation. Then on top of that is the evidence of deception with the premine and the advertised money supply protocol being altered ex post facto, etc.

And afaik you are a USA citizen, so thus you incur the maximum culpability.
2686  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 19, 2015, 04:53:16 PM
A space station may not be the most interesting thing that you buy with your Monero. Have you considered immortality?

I've been researching Aubrey de Grey, Ray Kurzweil, Peter Thiel, Ellison, Brin, etc. and other people who are researching or supporting life extension. It seems that there are a lot of smart people who believe that we'll be able to realistically extend our lives to 120+ years. That will then be enough, for some of us, to survive until the point where technology allows us to extend our lives indefinitely.

But the first generation of immortals will need lots of money. Read more here:
http://www.newsweek.com/2015/03/13/silicon-valley-trying-make-humans-immortal-and-finding-some-success-311402.html





Newsflash: It's impossible to experience nothingness, therefore you can only ever experience somethingness, therefore you are eternal.



No, that doesn't equal you being eternal. It equals your experience being limited to when you are alive which is why people are trying to extend their lives.... So they can have more experiences and maybe switch a career after they've spent a natural lifetime mastering one, or maybe experience what it's like to be young again or be rich or live long enough to travel off this crappy rock that encourages the eat or be eaten lifestyle, which is why i want my investments to succeed and i can enjoy my space yacht with my hot android GFs. (see how i got that back on topic  Wink )

Perhaps you're looking at the situation too dogmatically. Deckard would surely confirm that memories (and reality) is something of a slippery fish. Impossible to confirm, absolutely.

But if it's impossible to experience nothingness, then it's impossible up experience nothingness.

Somethingness prevails.

Perhaps your're being chimerical.

You need a brain ATM to experience something in your current human form, therefore if that dies, so do all your human experiences. I'm sure the dead atoms that fall off your body on a daily basis have some sort of experience, but that's not the experience I want to extend to if that's eternal life.

(sorry, smooth, please delete for being off topic--just needed to make my point clear)
2687  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Honestly, which is better? Monero or Dash? on: December 19, 2015, 04:45:13 PM
Im still not sure. Ive heard all the arguments in favour of monero, it seems very promising, and ive heard all the arguments in favour of dash, the technology seems very good.  But i still cant make my mind up. It seems that there is almost no one that can really decide which one is better monero or dash.  If only there was someone from either the dash community or the monero community who could please finally explain to me which one is better. Monero or dash.

Its a difficult topic for sure, but maybe this will help :



edit : damn, i forgot about the Dash Android app, Dash iPhone app, Dash Electrum release and the Dash SPV wallet thats in development right now .....  


Wow, you guys really don't get it. TPTB_need_war just outlined how your instant transactions and full node network are the flaw that will bring dash to its knees and you don't even wait for a new page to flash a checklist touting them as innovations. This is mindless advertising (IE propaganda)--just keep repeating the lie until some suckers our duped into believing it.


problem is that we heard that one too many times .. hell, i even bought knee protecters just in case and still we are standing... standing strong if i may add.

And you have some proof of TPTB_needs_war's  expert opinions aren't correct outside of the argument that you haven't needed knee pads yet? I'd like you to take his critcisms point by point (or better yet Evan--AFAIK he still has yet to answer how he's going to solve the X11 flaw). Smoke hopium on your own time and on your own dime.
2688  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Honestly, which is better? Monero or Dash? on: December 19, 2015, 04:31:19 PM
Im still not sure. Ive heard all the arguments in favour of monero, it seems very promising, and ive heard all the arguments in favour of dash, the technology seems very good.  But i still cant make my mind up. It seems that there is almost no one that can really decide which one is better monero or dash.  If only there was someone from either the dash community or the monero community who could please finally explain to me which one is better. Monero or dash.

Its a difficult topic for sure, but maybe this will help :



Wow, you guys really don't get it. TPTB_need_war just outlined how your instant transactions and full node network are the flaw that will bring dash to its knees and you don't even wait for a new page to flash a checklist touting them as innovations. This is mindless advertising (IE propaganda)--just keep repeating the lie until some suckers our duped into believing it.
2689  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 19, 2015, 04:20:55 PM
A space station may not be the most interesting thing that you buy with your Monero. Have you considered immortality?

I've been researching Aubrey de Grey, Ray Kurzweil, Peter Thiel, Ellison, Brin, etc. and other people who are researching or supporting life extension. It seems that there are a lot of smart people who believe that we'll be able to realistically extend our lives to 120+ years. That will then be enough, for some of us, to survive until the point where technology allows us to extend our lives indefinitely.

But the first generation of immortals will need lots of money. Read more here:
http://www.newsweek.com/2015/03/13/silicon-valley-trying-make-humans-immortal-and-finding-some-success-311402.html





Newsflash: It's impossible to experience nothingness, therefore you can only ever experience somethingness, therefore you are eternal.



No, that doesn't equal you being eternal. It equals your experience being limited to when you are alive which is why people are trying to extend their lives.... So they can have more experiences and maybe switch a career after they've spent a natural lifetime mastering one, or maybe experience what it's like to be young again or be rich or live long enough to travel off this crappy rock that encourages the eat or be eaten lifestyle, which is why i want my investments to succeed and i can enjoy my space yacht with my hot android GFs. (see how i got that back on topic  Wink )
2690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Honestly, which is better? Monero or Dash? on: December 19, 2015, 02:21:50 PM
Maybe a little early to be doing a victory lap.

IX requires 6 of 10 signatures to create a transaction lock.

Which is exactly what I wrote it must do, and exactly what I wrote when I surmised that your white paper was implying the highly jammable design of 10-of-10.

But as I pointed out in the correct math (which is clear you still haven't grasped), even 6-of-10 can be jammed 62% of the time (and multiply spent the other 38% of the time) given a 50% attack on the masternodes (i.e. the 50% attack on masternodes can attack 100% of the InstantX transactions). Even at 10% attack on masternodes, then every 666th UTXO can be jammed and roughly every 10,000th UTXO can be multiply spent. So if there are 66,600 UXTO, then a 10% attack on the masternodes (i.e. controlling 10% of the masternodes) roughly can jam 100 of the available UXTO and double-spend (actually multiply spend, i.e. unlimited lies can be announced by masternodes) 7 of them.

These sort of flaws are amateurish. You are in over your head. You are a programmer and some sort of finance person and a reasonably good marketer mining the gullible speculators (but not to actual users of currency), but you are not capable enough on the block chain theory.

This entire argument is based on an invalid premise! So your jamming attack doesn't work...

Nope. My entire argument is you apparently still don't know how to do basic probability math.

Will you attempt to copy my design and order Dash's masternode announcements? Then will you try to copy my design and merge all the orphans? If not, you will still have attack flaws in your design. Will you replace the deposit for controlling a masternodes with a nomination by PoW, so as to avoid the flaw of externalities that can finance the purchase of masternodes, e.g. shorting the coin.

Well even if you do manage to copy my design, you still can't fix the fact that attacking masternodes is a one-time cost and not sublinear (ongoing cost) as per attacking a correctly designed PoW coin (which is the point that has been made by myself, monsterer, and smooth). And thus Dash is a proof-of-stake security model, not a proof-of-work. Thus it can be undermined by for example combining shorting with attacking masternodes. And you won't get all the small details correct, because you simply don't have enough smart people helping you, because apparently the smart people don't want to work on your closed source during development (and very well documented allegations: fraud) coin. I would never work on your coin, because you have no usership. It is all marketing to speculators to mine the speculators. What is the point? We are supposed to be creating crypto to change the world and entice millions or billions of users. But that has never been your marketing plan. You've always been mining the speculators instead.

And also I do believe the SEC will be coming after you eventually for very clearly running an unregistered illegal investment security (and you come from the finance world so you know very well that you are skirting the securities law). Hope you've paid off the regulators with the $million you mined from the gullible speculators in crypto. Personally I don't see how it has been worth it. The $million you've perhaps pocketed will never sustain you to be rich for the rest of your life, and you will constantly have hanging over your head the threat of SEC action at any time in the future. That is criminal liability in exchange for $million. Not worth it. You are nearing the end of the road for your run.

When I originally assisted you on some of the errors in your original design which caused you to invent masternodes, I viewed you as a nice guy who was trying to develop something. When all these allegations of fraud and premine crap came out, I was very shamed that I had let you get away with promoting Dash. I always knew that Dash was a barely literate design (come on do you really want me to explain how your new anonymity design will be just as flawed as the current on in Dash!), but I didn't want to interfere because I am not the altcoin police (unlike smooth who sometimes tries to act like a sheriff). But really I have to tell you frankly, that I am ashamed that you have mined the speculators and not proposed any real impact for mass usership. And now you have the audacity to go pumping up this Evolution design as some great innovation and fooling more gullible speculators. I mean if you hadn't of done the fraud thing, I would probably not be hitting you so hard now. Again I don't go around harping on the fraud thing, because I am not the altcoin police. But pleeeaaaseee do not try to argue that you are capable on block chain theory tech. You are not.

I don't want to help you because you are doing evil in terms of the goals we as a community are trying to reach. You are siphoning away money from the community and not putting it towards actual innovation (both marketing and technical) that could really help us deal with the problem of a State gone amok. Help us to reach the ideals of crypto. Instead you are just mining the speculators and they seem to believe you are technically capable. You are capable enough to produce code, and you are capable enough to correct mistakes that are pointed out to you. But you are not capable enough to get the really smart people to work with you on ongoing basis, because you are not going in the correct direction in terms of the purpose of why we are here supporting crypto in the first place, which is to get millions of users to use crypto and to better the world (while also making money from increased adoption, not from mining from each other i.e. extracting money from each other in zero-sum game on this forum).

Maybe if you mea culpa on the premine crap and work towards bettering the world instead fooling (ahem marketing to the) the speculators, then maybe I would feel like helping you. But any way, I am moving forward on trying to move the crypto world forward in the direction it needs to be going. Maybe you should help me! I helped you before and you made a lot of money from me standing aside and not criticizing Dash in the early days. Maybe now it is time for you to pay back to the community.

And most definitely you can't duplicate my marketing plan directly to millions of users.

This is the end of the road for Dash.

It will be evident some weeks from now that Dash has no future.

Edit: I will look at your source code links when I have time. I need to head out the door to do errands. If I discover that any of my points are incorrect, I will mea culpa. Again I don't hate you, but I feel I must be frank about the technology because we really need innovation that help us reach the goals of crypto and not just half-assed tech from guys who design schemes to siphon off the capital of crypto into their pockets. And again I have studied the SEC regulations and all these marketing to speculators is clearly a violation of the Howey test for being an unregistered illegal investment security. It doesn't matter how you've obfuscated it by pretending the masternodes are in control, the Supreme Court has consistently said that the test overlooks any attempts to obfuscate the economic reality of the situation. Then on top of that is the evidence of deception with the premine and the advertised money supply protocol being altered ex post facto, etc.

And afaik you are a USA citizen, so thus you incur the maximum culpability.
2691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom Ultima Version Development Thread on: December 18, 2015, 09:57:40 PM

IRC-channel moderation

need social media accounts setup with a person who will be managing them


I can mod 5am-8am UTC Tuesday-Friday

I set up a Twitter and Facebook page and can manage them or pass the credentials over at HM's discretion:

https://twitter.com/Crypto_Kingdom

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010878341124

2692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which dev do you trusted more ? on: December 17, 2015, 06:43:34 AM
I am voting #1 because I tried to develop a coin anonymously and frankly it would be very difficult to communicate and collaborate and remain truly anonymous to the NSA. If you mean just anonymous to the forum such as smooth (even though I assume someone on this forum knows his true identity), than I would include that in #1.

Also it seems to be #4 is the same as #1. Monero was a fork. Every coin based on Bitcoin's code is a fork. I was not voting against #4 when I voted for #1. If you allowed me to vote for more than 1 choice, then you poll wouldn't be as incongruent with my reality.

The subject title is misleading. I opened this tread because I thought it was naming devs. Is English your second language?

I will look forward to invest in your coin if i can see potential in it

No. 4 is surely not the same as No. 1 because (as generalizethis pointed out) no.4 is a fork of a known scam coin. and yes some of monero dev is still anon atm.
PS: yes English is my 3rd language


is this just for bashing which coin?
monero?
dash?
eth?

Well if it's equating Dash with Etherum, it's probably insulting Eth the most. I think noobtrader (especially if it's noobtrader who's always bashing Monero on Poloniex) is trying to not so subtly bash Monero because it is a fork of Bytecoin (a known scam). Why? He might be heavily involved with another coin or is likely shorting Monero on Poloniex or possibly both or just doesn't like Monero.

i also invested in monero, but i sold all when it was above 0.0023 then shorted all the way down. thanks to you and your buddy trolling all other coin ann. trolling are not a good way to promote your coin. i hope you understand.



Show evidence of me trolling all other coin's ANN. I think I posted a couple times on Dash's thread months ago, but didn't like the way it felt, so I stopped. If you are shorting Monero currently, I don't think a strangely worded poll or trolling Poloniex is going to have the effect you want.

why should i put evidence of you ? i said you and your buddy.   i stopped shorting monero few days ago, im still weighting to invest back to monero or not.

btw : what should i do if i want to short a coin Huh troll their ann and bully their investor ?
 https://www.bolehvpn.net/blog/2015/12/14/what-is-dash-and-why-is-bolehvpn-accepting-it/

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We even received a strongly worded anonymous warning to threaten to boycott and spread negative publicity about us if we continued to accept Dash. We strongly believe in healthy competition and hope that Monero’s official team takes a stronger stance in regulating its spokespersons (even if they may be on paper unofficial). We look forward to accepting Monero once these problems are rectified.

I already covered how stupid using an anonymous letter is as evidence of anyone bullying as it can't be traced back to who actually sent it or fabricated it--was it the person claiming an affiliation with a company or group? Was it an enemy of the affiliated group trying to make the company or group look bad? Was it fabricated by the receiver? It's anonymous, so who can make heads or tails out of the motivation or sender?

Also look up the word and. When you write me and my buddy, you are saying me along with my buddy. So show proof if you are going to level direct accusations. As i said, a few months back i posted a couple of times on only the dash thread, so either show proof or acknowledge that you are wrong about what you claim. And if you are going to offer up the excuse that your English is bad, I suggest either improve it or post on the forum of a language you are nuanced in, because falsely accusing people of things that never happened is going to piss a few people off.
2693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XMR] Monero - Marketing Team & Tactics on: December 17, 2015, 06:28:23 AM
https://www.bolehvpn.net/blog/2015/12/14/what-is-dash-and-why-is-bolehvpn-accepting-it/

i dont know if this related or not, but really Huh


Quote
Monero (No.13 in market capitalization) is promising and has better anonymity but it still lacks an official GUI client though there are third party GUI options available. [SEE UPDATE BELOW] More importantly, I have personally witnessed many of Monero’s representatives employing questionable marketing tactics that often involve trolling and bullying and as such we have decided not to accept it at this point in time as a matter of principle. We even received a strongly worded anonymous warning to threaten to boycott and spread negative publicity about us if we continued to accept Dash. We strongly believe in healthy competition and hope that Monero’s official team takes a stronger stance in regulating its spokespersons (even if they may be on paper unofficial). We look forward to accepting Monero once these problems are rectified.



Hope they see the irony when they get lumped with terrorist supporters in the great NWO VPN purge.

VPN Owner, "But we didn't send a terrorist threat!"

LE Agent, "We have a threatening anonymous letter that states that they only use your services for their terrorizing. And unless we abolish freedom, they're going to coordinate an attack using your service."

VPN Owner, "But how can we control what other people say?"

LE Agent, "Tell it to the judge."

The only thing stupider than judicial courts run a muck is a court of public opinion that has no regard for facts or common sense.

2694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which dev do you trusted more ? on: December 17, 2015, 05:21:27 AM
I am voting #1 because I tried to develop a coin anonymously and frankly it would be very difficult to communicate and collaborate and remain truly anonymous to the NSA. If you mean just anonymous to the forum such as smooth (even though I assume someone on this forum knows his true identity), than I would include that in #1.

Also it seems to be #4 is the same as #1. Monero was a fork. Every coin based on Bitcoin's code is a fork. I was not voting against #4 when I voted for #1. If you allowed me to vote for more than 1 choice, then you poll wouldn't be as incongruent with my reality.

The subject title is misleading. I opened this tread because I thought it was naming devs. Is English your second language?

I will look forward to invest in your coin if i can see potential in it

No. 4 is surely not the same as No. 1 because (as generalizethis pointed out) no.4 is a fork of a known scam coin. and yes some of monero dev is still anon atm.
PS: yes English is my 3rd language


is this just for bashing which coin?
monero?
dash?
eth?

Well if it's equating Dash with Etherum, it's probably insulting Eth the most. I think noobtrader (especially if it's noobtrader who's always bashing Monero on Poloniex) is trying to not so subtly bash Monero because it is a fork of Bytecoin (a known scam). Why? He might be heavily involved with another coin or is likely shorting Monero on Poloniex or possibly both or just doesn't like Monero.

i also invested in monero, but i sold all when it was above 0.0023 then shorted all the way down. thanks to you and your buddy trolling all other coin ann. trolling are not a good way to promote your coin. i hope you understand.



Show evidence of me trolling all other coin's ANN. I think I posted a couple times on Dash's thread months ago, but didn't like the way it felt, so I stopped. If you are shorting Monero currently, I don't think a strangely worded poll or trolling Poloniex is going to have the effect you want.
2695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which dev do you trusted more ? on: December 16, 2015, 08:27:26 PM
is this just for bashing which coin?
monero?
dash?
eth?

Well if it's equating Dash with Etherum, it's probably insulting Eth the most. I think noobtrader (especially if it's noobtrader who's always bashing Monero on Poloniex) is trying to not so subtly bash Monero because it is a fork of Bytecoin (a known scam). Why? He might be heavily involved with another coin or is likely shorting Monero on Poloniex or possibly both or just doesn't like Monero.
2696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XMR] Monero - Marketing Team & Tactics on: December 16, 2015, 08:07:56 PM
You guys are working on a freaking GUI and database wallet for ages now suckers!!!

Almost as long as eduffield's been working on Masternode blinding!   Cheesy

Not sure if you are for real or not, but GUI wallet is a basic job for a crypto currency programmer.

And the official enterprise level GUI will come (it's for the most part built) after the db and some other fine tuning is done. Monero isn't Dash--the devs won't rush a product to market (and without thorough testing) in order to grab a few more bucks.  
2697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: December 16, 2015, 04:56:32 PM
Congratulations on the announcement, Prince James Daniel. Seeing as you are 18 and are probably anxious to see the world (and have a few adventures, no doubt) I've decided to give you fine horse of H6 breeding. Enjoy him for many years to come.

Your loyal servant,

Sir Crichton
2698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] do you take anything out of Spoetnik mouth serious? on: December 16, 2015, 02:55:51 AM
Liek OMG'z Spoetnik said something, everyone let's go.. bring pen's & paper for autographs !
Is it my fault my opinions are the most important in all of crypto ?
That is all your doing .. not mine Wink
Otherwise.. you would simply carry on about your business ignoring my posts if that wasn't true.

Done, thanks for the advice.
2699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEWS] Monero David Latapie French Police Fraud [updated] on: December 15, 2015, 09:17:11 AM


So all of you Monero investors don't even know why the leader of a Monero Marketing company apologized to you ?

we know. if someone makes a mistake (eg picking the wrong partner) he apologizes. so did David.

uhhhhhhmm ALL of that was because he picked a partner ?
That is the most brutal apology i ever seen on the web.. for what ?
He was apologizing to YOU guys.. read it guys !

We read it. Did you? Sorry that he over-apologized in your estimation--but for a guy who calls people faggots and retards on a regular basis without any acknowledgement as to it being rude or offensive, I'm guessing all apologies are overdone.

If the shoe fits..
And besides i never defrauded innocent people of money unlike Monero shills / criminals.
Besides how do i know you are not a faggot ?
Maybe you like a little cock every now and then ? ..hey i don't judge ..to each their own man !

Oh and by the way good job avoiding answering the question.. WHY.

What question? I answered that he was apologizing for being frauded here and in another thread. Did you have another question? As for your belief that he over apologized--I speculated on that also. I'm going to work. Have a nice day trolling.
2700  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEWS] Monero David Latapie French Police Fraud [updated] on: December 15, 2015, 08:31:32 AM


So all of you Monero investors don't even know why the leader of a Monero Marketing company apologized to you ?

we know. if someone makes a mistake (eg picking the wrong partner) he apologizes. so did David.

uhhhhhhmm ALL of that was because he picked a partner ?
That is the most brutal apology i ever seen on the web.. for what ?
He was apologizing to YOU guys.. read it guys !

We read it. Did you? Sorry that he over-apologized in your estimation--but for a guy who calls people faggots and retards on a regular basis without any acknowledgement as to it being rude or offensive, I'm guessing all apologies are overdone.
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