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2681  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: December 08, 2013, 09:59:55 PM
Maybe Dave's availability counter is broken, cause I don't see the quantity available changing from 1000 at all. What's wrong with you fools, buy the boards now!! Tongue

Fools eh?

Only slightly below cex.io, but maybe that was the intention.  If BTC goes to $5000+, MBP might sell some of these boards, but not now...
2682  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL board project COINTAMINATION - EU facility - ORDERS OPENED for Chili on: December 06, 2013, 01:52:49 PM
Interesting thing is that in this time I made a Avalon gen2 replacement board for gen1 without a problem... It looks to be really BFL thing...

BFL products have been designed by engineers who like to complicate things.  Everything in their products is unnecessarily complicated.
I guess BFL hires people who are just smart enough to design but stupid enough not to see simpler solutions.

There is a reason people say "German Engineering".  "French Engineering"  does not have the same implied meaning.

Avalon is a different story.  ngzhang was all for simplicity.  This was evident in his Icarus boards and then Avalon.
I bet whatever else he designs will follow the same pattern.
2683  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Who was first with 28nm? on: December 04, 2013, 03:40:27 AM
anyone still talking 'power efficiency' in the ASIC era is on the sidelines looking in.   it is such a small % of the equation and only means something at the end of a gen era...which is when you should be plotting to be first on the next major tech advance

tl;dr  once power efficiency means anything, you are running obsolete miners



Power efficiency does not matter right now because of the exchange to fiat.  If BTC price was $10, everybody would want to run bitfury and nothing else.
Electricity is a small fraction of the revenue generated by most miners today.

People already forget the times when BTC price was $5 and everybody wanted to get FPGAs because the GPU farms did not scale very well.

Right now, space is an important factor and heat removal can be an issue in some installations.  But cost of electricity is negligible.
2684  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KNC Miner on: December 03, 2013, 05:54:26 AM
I am suspicions about KnC. They have a good product with a good design and the units are fairly efficient compared to what else is out there. They really have the top of the market.  Why on earth are they abandoning it for a new preorder product?? I also see they have discontinued use of paypal.  It makes no sense to me.  A KnC Jupiter is going for $20k.  They have everything already, just make some more!! Why do all the mfg feel they need to screw everyone around with preorder crap!

They shift the risk to the buyers.  

Plenty of greedy people will buy their pre-order crap.  Seems like people already forgot BFL, Avalon.  Or maybe we just get a lot of new miners just starting out who don't know any better.

The window to produce more 500GH units is closing fast, so they have to plan the next gen product if they want to stay in business.
2685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 26, 2013, 07:42:54 PM
I'd even be willing to send BTC to people if I get enough confirmed referral sales for a miner Cheesy

Cool down. Turn off the computer.  Relax.

If they open them to public, the price will be below 5 BTC.  Buy then.
2686  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 26, 2013, 07:26:27 PM
Really unhappy about this not being open to new customers. What a clusterfuck Sad

Could be worse, you could be an early customer that can't buy one because they sell out before you get the chance....because greedy people ordered 10 plus intending to play the game of selling pre-orders or getting refunds.

Of course the reverse would have applied had they been open for all, early buyers almost certainly would have taken the early leap of faith and tested the waters only to find them all sold out now once proved..which would be very unfair. Massive risks are now reaping the promised rewards (..another massive risk lol )

KNC always said they'd do this. They are keeping their word.
The only reason you're not an existing customer is that you chose not to be, which is down to you 100%.

Sure.  Go for it.  Order 10+ units.

All this would do is increase network hashing power to 5 EH/s from its current 5 PH/s
2687  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [500Th] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 # on: November 16, 2013, 09:50:30 PM
orphaned blocks hurt. 269982

We came first, before slush by 30 seconds.  Not sure why our block was rejected.

Wizkid, how many nodes are you connected to?

According to blockchain.info your block wasn't seen for over 20 minutes after slush's.  Don't look at block timestamps, look at the *received time*.

2013-11-16 21:11:51 for Slush
2013-11-16 21:34:25 for Eligius

Even more than that...Slush found the block after his...10 minutes before blockchain.info saw a single node relay the Eligius version of 269982.



EDIT:  Okay...maybe ignore the above.  I'm seeing some *weird* timestamps on the received time with Blockchain.info right now.  Still, you should never base "which block came first" by the block timestamp since the timestamp is not reliable.


So "Time" in

http://blockchain.info/block-height/269982

Is not the received time?

2013-11-16 19:47:46 slush
2013-11-16 19:47:17 eligius
2688  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [500Th] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 # on: November 16, 2013, 09:31:24 PM
orphaned blocks hurt. 269982

We came first, before slush by 30 seconds.  Not sure why our block was rejected.

Wizkid, how many nodes are you connected to?
2689  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon is shipping 55 nm process chips? on: November 03, 2013, 12:56:26 AM
Its no use. I now saw marto74's offer for the gen2-boards. They are priced for 16 chips at 129€. That means 32 miners for one reel. Makes around 30 Bitcoins. The reel costs 30 bitcoins too.

Overclocked hashrate of 750GH/s in total. Entering the details in here: http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/ shows that you never will come near to mine back the price for getting these miners. If your lucky you will get 2/3 back. So i stop here.

That is why Yifu/ngzhang is selling them.  Don't buy their shit.  Let them eat and choke on them.
2690  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 23, 2013, 02:39:53 AM
no news = bad news.  I wish I got v1 hw with m-boards to actually have a unit to hash with in october.  This is the equivalent to recieving my unit at minium 7-10 days from now.  If you guys can't send it, I'd want my refund on OVN shipping except you'd refund me at the going rate and I would literally only be given a single bitcoin for a peice of hardware that costed me 1.5 btc in shipping.  OK im off my soapbox.

When you buy with bitcoins you are essentially selling them.  So make sure you buy the corresponding number of bitcoins.
When you get a refund you are essentially buying bitcoins.  So sell the corresponding amount.
That way your loss will be minimal.

Ok, now 400M diff is coming up in 2-3 days so you better be ready.  When the pricing for October H-boards was first announced at $350, the difficulty was what? 25-50M?  I don't remember the exact numbers.  But I do remember people on this forum projected 100M to 200M by the end of October.  Those people were flammed, others called them crazy.  

Than after August sold out in hours, the price was jacked up to $500.  But going by what they are really worth, they should be in the $50-$100 range for mining to be marginally profitable.

The problem is that the network is growing faster than anybody anticipated. Today, many believe that network WILL NOT continue on its path up.  Well, guess what, it most likely will.  It will flatten out at some point.  When?  

When everybody and their mother will think it will never flatten out.

Lol. YEs, the only company that increased prices with increased difficulty for those specific cards! Go figure!. Bitfury should stop sucking all miners gains and they should only care about keeping a reasonable USD margin. That's what their business model should be. An engineer friend of mine who works at Intel just saw one of my h-boards a few minutes ago and told me there's no way the marginal cost of that card is more than $100. It's a complete rip off for dummies.

Ask your friend about Intel's pricing model. or, any other company producing a product.

Yup, I did and ... told me it's more cost-based, it's an entirely different industry not aimed to generate miner utility AND they don't normally inflate prices 190% relative to 2 months later. But if you think paying $500 is a fantastic deal go for it. They are still the same number of boards available as yesterday. I guess that should tell you something about the attractiveness of that deal ;-)

it's a pleasure to watch all of these ripoff artists eat their own asic boards. Enough of laughing on their way to the bank

They will not eat them.  Leszek or whatever his name is, is getting them at $25 or less so he'll run them, Dave will host the shit for him.
You think they want to sell retail?  They priced it so that it is worthwhile their time to even bother.  They are busy producing them, setting them up, maintaining them.  Retail is a side show.
2691  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 22, 2013, 09:19:20 PM
no news = bad news.  I wish I got v1 hw with m-boards to actually have a unit to hash with in october.  This is the equivalent to recieving my unit at minium 7-10 days from now.  If you guys can't send it, I'd want my refund on OVN shipping except you'd refund me at the going rate and I would literally only be given a single bitcoin for a peice of hardware that costed me 1.5 btc in shipping.  OK im off my soapbox.

When you buy with bitcoins you are essentially selling them.  So make sure you buy the corresponding number of bitcoins.
When you get a refund you are essentially buying bitcoins.  So sell the corresponding amount.
That way your loss will be minimal.

Ok, now 400M diff is coming up in 2-3 days so you better be ready.  When the pricing for October H-boards was first announced at $350, the difficulty was what? 25-50M?  I don't remember the exact numbers.  But I do remember people on this forum projected 100M to 200M by the end of October.  Those people were flammed, others called them crazy.  

Than after August sold out in hours, the price was jacked up to $500.  But going by what they are really worth, they should be in the $50-$100 range for mining to be marginally profitable.

The problem is that the network is growing faster than anybody anticipated. Today, many believe that network WILL NOT continue on its path up.  Well, guess what, it most likely will.  It will flatten out at some point.  When?  

When everybody and their mother will think it will never flatten out.
2692  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL board project COINTAMINATION - EU facility - ORDERS OPEN on: October 22, 2013, 08:44:38 PM
Tom (JJ) has mailed a check with tracking #...

That is odd.  Miners sending checks?  What happened to bitcoins?  I guess everybody is hoarding now...

Anyway, glad you got your money back.
2693  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BitSyncom, what compensation is planned for chip buyers/trade in customers? on: October 22, 2013, 02:29:56 AM
BitSyncom will issue compensation when hell freezes over.

He will issue few just for the show.  He will need some image lift before they come here with their gen 2 pony show.

Just make sure you follow them where ever they go online to remind them what they did.
2694  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL board project COINTAMINATION - EU facility - ORDERS OPEN on: October 22, 2013, 02:20:22 AM
I just wanted to post here as a warning to anyone looking to buy a Cointamination board in the US to be sure to go to Lucko and not to purchase anything through JerimiahJohnson.

JerimiahJohnson is in fact Thomas Van Riper, who went by cablepair here. He's scammer tagged and still owes bASIC customers very large sums of money. As someone who had orders for bASIC products on order with him, I would not trust him with a dime. Go directly to Lucko.

Really?  He introduced himself as "Rob" in my PMs and emails.

+1 for Lucko. 
2695  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: October 21, 2013, 12:29:09 PM
I am in the country on a large farm. I do not know if it is possible for an amplifier wifi network exist

You need a repeater.  Try Wilson amplifiers.  Check the bandwidth of your cell phone providers in the area and buy the
matching amplifier and an external Yagi antenna.  Most rural areas in NA operate on 850 MHz band.  Find out your nearest cell phone tower and point your external antenna there.

Get Wi-fi router from your cell phone provider, it will connect to your Wilson repeater.  You'll have 4G like in the city.
Once you have Internet in the building, get a strong access point amp for areas that have lower signal.  If you buy, a good wi-fi router, I doubt
you'll need any extra access points.
2696  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [REDUCED] BitFury 16 Chip Boards 50Gh/s 5.1BTC or $849 on: October 21, 2013, 04:22:39 AM
Where can i get Ribbon cable for BitFury Board <--> Rpi
and cable for BitFury  Board <--> BitFury Board if i buy more than 1 board?


This board should be less than $349 to make any money today.

In a month, it will not even make sense to buy it at $149. IMHO.
2697  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL board project COINTAMINATION - EU facility - ORDERS OPEN on: October 20, 2013, 05:35:44 PM
Side, top, under angle, it does not matter.  I'll not be putting them in cases or look at them.  Red, greed or any other color LED are fine.
All it matters is that they hash, and don't catch fire.

I'll place the parts in a server room. It is essential to mount them in a related case.

Cheers...


Mine (PSU+board+rpi) are on a piece of plywood, 3/4" stands.  Works well.  I can move my setup anywhere.  Server room, basement, shed whatever.
As long as it does not rain on it.  Remember, in 6-8 months you'll be upgrading anyway.  What are you going to do with the custom case?

I learned the hard way, don't over invest in the setup. In time, all our mining hardware will go on the curb anyway. IMHO.
 
2698  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL board project COINTAMINATION - EU facility - ORDERS OPEN on: October 20, 2013, 02:13:07 PM
And I ordered by mistake wrong PCI-e plug... So it is not plugged in from side but from top  Roll Eyes
Ah you can put them on my boards. I don't want side usage normally too for the trimmers.
The reason is I want as many as possible in a 4HE 19" Serverrack to put them to a air conditioned server room and top connections will help. So I want to have so less space as possible between much boards.
+1 ... I don't like cables to side as well, they are almost every time in the way when getting board into cases. Same goes for the USB cable on the board.

@asjfdlksfd Do you have special designed case? I would be interested.

Cheers

     one4many

Side, top, under angle, it does not matter.  I'll not be putting them in cases or look at them.  Red, greed or any other color LED are fine.
All it matters is that they hash, and don't catch fire.
2699  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 20, 2013, 12:15:20 PM
Dave,

I still have not received my mining payment for my August Order #149?
Why the hold up?  A lot of people with higher order numbers than mine already received theirs.

I already emailed sales/accounts/PMed you (many times!!!).  

Thanks,
Peter

In my last correspondence with Yvonne I was told "here is some issue with a server or some such technical thing so he will make another attempt shortly". I would really like to resolve this now.

I got paid.  Thank you Dave.
2700  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: HELP - My Minirig Nexus 7 only shows charging screen after battery runs out. on: October 20, 2013, 01:11:39 AM
BFL really fucked this one up.

You have to open the case.  There is no way to access the power button from the outside, unless you unscrew few screws and lift the front panel and use something slim to push the power button from the outside.

If you ever opened a PC, you should have no problems opening a case on mini rig.  Start with the bottom screws and work your way on the sides and
then the top.  Lift the top cover, disconnect Nexus.

Plug it into a 2A@5V charger.  Charge overnight. Put it all together.

I'm really not sure why BFL decided to put Nexus in mini rigs.  Most people who bought minis were/are experienced miners, most run them as USB device
and connect them to a PC.  The Nexus configuration is a mess, not very flexible, switching pools and changing configuration parameters.
Works well with EMC but that is pretty much it.  Cannot do much in terms of monitoring or pool failover.
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