If you guys are up for discussing XCurrency too, here's a brief introduction to get the conversation started: - XC is the only project with an already-implemented anonymity solution that is currently working. - XC has a flexible and layered approach to privacy, which is to say there are several ways in which one can be private. - This "layered" approach is important to make XC relevant for several use cases. - Here are the functions that will be exposed to XC users: - conceal your address from the recipient (XC's equivalent of a stealth address) - conceal the amount sent/received (Multipath, i.e. splitting transactions into fragments and having them routed down separate paths through the network) - either send directly to recipient or use trustless mixing (that latter of which is a world first - a solution to the Byzantine Generals' problem for privacy-centric currencies) - conceal your IP address (The XC TOR Stick / embedded I2P-like node) There are a lot of other aspects to XC, like mobile-centric development (fully functional staking mobile wallets) and blockchain 2.0 capabilities, but since DRK and CLOAK are anoncoins, the privacy-related stuff is relevant here. |
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Morning folks! Hope you're all enjoying the marvels of XChat.
The Daily Update will include a pretty exciting announcement later today.
Stay tuned...
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This program requires complete access to your wallet. If the "flaw" requires full control of the wallet, then wtf is the point? It doesn't mean that it has to be sender's wallet. Any wallet will suffice. It seems that the program is using RPC API to get info about transactions. Stop the blatant FUD. That's the whole "algorithm" of the moron who is trying to influence the market price: foreach (Vout vout in vouts)
{
// addresses sometimes don't exists in vout JSON returned from client, we just ignore this case
if (vout.address != null)
{
if (coinsReceived.ContainsKey(vout.address))
{
coinsReceived[vout.address] = coinsReceived[vout.address] + vout.amount;
}
else
coinsReceived[vout.address] = vout.amount;
}
}
foreach (string addr in coinsReceived.Keys)
{
decimal c = coinsReceived[addr];
if (c >= receivedAmount && c <= receivedAmount + 0.0003M)
{
return addr;
}
}
As anyone can see, there is absolutely no logic, it's just a piece of shit, probably copy & paste from some M$ost department... Yes, I can't see how this will have any effect on XC. Multipath obscures the amount sent and so using block height is no way to identify the sender. |
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Would advise people to add their XChat address to their footer to show the other communities as you post in them. That way, they will wonder what is this XChat thing is.
Excellent idea. |
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I'm chatting to Cryptogretzky, Ballzdeep, and Getmining.info on XChat, and...
It's awesome! - even if several UI-tweaks are still to be done.
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Synechist, Here is a link to all of the Guardian contact information, they carry out regular Snowden updates and have mentioned him being on encrypted chat etc etc http://www.theguardian.com/help/contact-usHere is a link to all the snowden articles http://www.theguardian.com/world/edward-snowdenCould be worth reading before reaching out to them.... My initial thought though is to use one of these two contacts, to get a better contact on who to approach about this Chris Elliott - Guardian readers' editor reader@theguardian.comGuardian readers' editor page Stephen Pritchard - Observer readers' editor reader@observer.co.ukObserver readers' editor page Here is a quote from one of his lectures... "In his lecture, titled "You’ve Lost Privacy, Now They’re Taking Anonymity (aka Whistleblowing is Dead – Get Over It)", he spoke in vivid numbers and geographies. He said that every time I crossed nearby Bryant Park, I would be photographed 150 times, and that only five percent of my face was necessary to enable facial recognition software. Such software would be able to instantly summon up a profile that would include all the available information about me, released voluntarily on social networks or collected involuntarily by big data." Sounds like he would love XC http://motherboard.vice.com/read/edward-snowden-they-took-your-privacy-now-theyre-coming-for-anonymityTake a read Thank you sir! That's great. I now have several links to follow up on :-) |
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XC-EM RC5 - testnet release is now available. http://downloads.xc-official.com/testing/XCurrency_EM_TEST_RC5.zip -- included batch file add's -testnet & -addnode=testnet.xcnode.xc-official.com if you get a runtime error on startup, remove the chat.dat and pubkeys.dat in the testnet2 directory ATC ::: mg1pQANyAciWJBgdH9QBfQGvxkwabxLtNk / jeyDbvJk1gc4xBAUbh2vgUvgGeGsy1R7satWkFdDGSY6 I won't be back online until about 8pm if you EM me Dan Woohoo! You can all PM me on the following: Address: mjHo9YHXpTjG7JNHAubNwHtUbGMuipazLC Public key: xaA54eUpEPQcafpe6Q9s6fq2tTR6EdBNXNaL8MP9J47S |
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[more ranting]
Hoertest, can you please get over this? You've said your piece. We heard you. Stop repeating yourself. |
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There was an attack on the TOR network see : http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/30/5951479/tor-says-unknown-attackers-compromised-hidden-services If my knowledge of XC tech is correct this is actually good news for XC, because it's Xchat functions inside the TOR cloud (instead of relying on the TOR end nodes) which makes Xchat conversations impervious to packet sniffing (the method the attackers used) Furthermore XC's anonymity as a whole does not rely on TOR in general. So XC will function as a safe haven in times where TOR is compromised or under attack. So, even if the TOR network is compromised, the end user of XC will remain anonymous. Before I put these thoughts out on Twitter, could anyone confirm whether I am correct in the above? I don't want to spread hype or fudbait. Yeah, spread that. It's spot on. Nice one. |
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The TOR Stick, with the latest XChat, will be available for download on Thur next week.
Is this mean that we can start ordering the TOR stick?
On Thursday next week you'll be able to download the latest TOR Stick ISO with XChat implemented (for free). Purchasing the physical version will happen in time for delivery by Rev 3. I really need this to be clarified for tech-illiterates like me. I am extremely interested in this, but I am not sure: downloading the tor stick iso for free will enable us to burn it to a USB and have the very exact features of the official Tor XChat stick? If that's the case, why should some1 buy the original physical version, just for the looks? Not that I mind, but I want to be sure! Yes you'll be able to download the TOR Stick for free and put it on any removable media you like (or just run it in a virtualised environment). XC will always be free. On the other hand if you want something that looks as cool as this then you'll have to pay a little bit:  |
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keycoin +100%
XC +17%
And XC has yet again the best technical accomplishment of the day.
win/win heh. We should get a loveletter back from keycoin devs. with 20 guys on it that should have already happened.
I know i piss you of synechist but i just can't get it. And you know i'm not that "pookilex kind, bitching about everything" type of guy that gets a heart attack on every sell wall, threatening to dump his stack every 5 minutes.
XCurrency is by far the best fucking crypto out there!!!
I just can't handle seeing it today getting outperformed by a two week old coin based on its old code as a result of a borderline endorsement post from our own dev. I should probably stay away from keyboard for now but its just fucking my mind today.
Basically, the way I see it, two things are happening in altcoinland at the moment: - Speculators are heavily oriented toward pump and dump-style trading, since almost every coin is only worthy of that. - The community is wearying of endless P&D trash, and really wants something solid. But being burned makes them tough customers. XC is clearly not a P&D coin, so those traders are leaving us along for the time being. On the other hand, XC's legitimacy is established but broadcasting it takes some time, since the fastest and most effective broadcasters are P&D-related Twitter accounts who have no interest in demonstrating XC's legitimacy unless it means immediate profits. Thus it'll take a while for XC's credibility to hit critical mass. In any case, all frantic growth is temporary. So I couldn't care if some other coins go up 100% or more in a day. We're doing just fine here. Really. |
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The TOR Stick, with the latest XChat, will be available for download on Thur next week.
Is this mean that we can start ordering the TOR stick?
On Thursday next week you'll be able to download the latest TOR Stick ISO with XChat implemented (for free). Purchasing the physical version will happen in time for delivery by Rev 3. |
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I might have to go get a to tor stick now.. Great feature.. Have u thought about a freebie for Snowden?
I don't see why not. Anyone here know how to contact the fellow? |
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Please, please put a utility on that to run updates on wallet releases...
Nice work.
Yes, that's an important feature for usability. It's in the pipeline, but it's a feature for Rev 3 (or maybe later). We're getting the foundation done first. |
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Excellent Update  I assume the XChat will remain stand-alone for now until REV2.5? Or will it be inside the app? Yes XChat and privacy mode transactions will be merged in Rev 2.5. |
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***The XC Daily Update***Hello all Time to tell the secret... Dan noted last night that XChat will be bundled into an updated TOR Stick. On its own XChat is:
- based on the Xnode protocol, which is the foundation of XC's nodes. - As it stands, XChat is a true P2P protocol, with no third parties/servers, making it very hard to attack. - XChat is encrypted from end-to-end, so no-one can snoop on your messages. But when combined with the TOR Stick:
- Your XChat app is inside the TOR cloud. This means no exit nodes will be used, so packet sniffers can't find your IP. - As such, although TOR is normally vulnerable to packet sniffers, it isn't for XChat. - Also, because XChat is true P2P, it's also not subject to the other TOR vulnerability, man-in-the-middle attacks. - The TOR Stick is its own operating system; it leaves no trace on your computer once your remove it. (This is a little bit like Tails). So when you're done chatting to someone, nobody will be able to locate and steal your information. As a result, XChat in the TOR Stick represents a landmark moment in messaging: true privacy.
The TOR Stick, with the latest XChat, will be available for download on Thur next week.
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For one, how about the fact that no one has cracked XC's anonymity? And people have TRIED HARD.
This is one of the fallacies I see often. Take it from one of the brightest minds you can find on these forums (he is rather harsh here, but he was irritated from having to talk to intellectually challenged ): Nobody's gamed it yet
Proof? Evidence? Anybody can blow any nonsense words out their arse. Cryptographers understand that until you do cryptanalysis, you don't fucking know. You're correct insofar as XC is not complete and expert consultations and public testing (for a big bounty) have not yet commenced. This, along with our making the code public, will "bulletproof" XC. But I think what was meant is that anyone who's tested the mixer so far has failed to probably break XC's anonymity. (Subsequently, XC's got trustless mixing, and further features are being implemented too which compound privacy and security.) |
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Hoertest, generosity is a virtue, and virtues have long-term and short-term benefits. There's absolutely no need to be less than virtuous, ever.
There is little doubt in my mind that Dan's review will be beneficial to all parties, and mostly to XC.
You showed public interest in cloak some days ago. look where cloak is now and how beneficial it was to us. .... Where is cloak now? It has nothing special really, just a pump and dump related to the hype taking place into the trade... There is too much centralization there...and cheap fancy developments... cloaksend? a mere 3-4 hours php script http://www.cloaksend.com/api/cloaks/CBnkPKapz8U2FKc7EQSeCcSZ3qPD82XpGp/C5qKmSjW1K1CiADtnMHMPBjQWybHQ9S8ce/50.0onemarket? another centralized king-of-website, integrated into the WALLET... Anyway, I'm happy for a thing related to cloak right now, which is seeing that mintpal has not lost the trust yet, and there is still volume on the exchange... I know that its all hot air atm. good luck to anyone trying to ride the pump. i don't have the balls anymore . one more thing. I'm all for giving value and recieving value type of actions in this crypto community. Tell me where is the value keycoin devs is giving to XC in exchange for Dans time except that one line thank you so far? Sorry, but I agree with this until we have a fucking white paper or something explaining our tech. I'm sick of hearing that XC is way ahead in terms of the tech... HOW DO WE KNOW THIS IS TRUE? WHERE IS THE DOCUMENTATION OR PROOF? Start using your heads, my god. Wake up angry? For one, how about the fact that no one has cracked XC's anonymity? And people have TRIED HARD. Two, REV1 has been open sourced in good faith to show that there is indeed real development here. And even though REV1 was excellent, it's still like comparing a Honda Civic to a Pagani Zonda with what we have now. Three, XChat uses the same multi-path approach as transacting XCurrency, to ensure fast and secure communications. This is nearing completion to be fully implemented into the app. If you can't see the positives, sell me your coinnnnsssssss.... Yes, a white paper (by which I mean a proper scholarly presentation of XC's tech) is due for Rev 3. If you look up my post history you'll see why I think it's important not to release one before Rev 3. For now, we're doing just fine with real live working tech, and multiple explanatory texts like the OP and press releases. ;-) |
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I know that its all hot air atm. good luck to anyone trying to ride the pump. i don't have the balls anymore . one more thing. I'm all for giving value and recieving value type of actions in this crypto community. Tell me where is the value keycoin devs is giving to XC in exchange for Dans time except that one line thank you so far? The point is that Dan's review is the value given to XC. - it establishes Dan's reputation in the community - it demonstrates his spirit of mutual respect and goodwill - it further solidifies XC's reputation as a real, legit project - it gets Key members interested in XC. Best move ever on Dan's part. Guess you talked him into it. You are way to invested in this whole mutual generosity Dalai lama of Business thing. I'm all for respect but its to much, and yes i would like to see some more effort from key devs personally. And after all he has accomplished you consider this his best move ever ? Your priorities are off I had nothing whatsoever to do with that review. I heard about it when the rest of you did. Dan did it entirely of his own volition. So there goes that theory. Secondly, though I'm not personally that into the Dalai Lama, if you're using him as an exemplar of ethical conduct then yes, it's damn well correct that we should be ethically exemplary. It's a HUGE competitive advantage. If you disagree, that's fine with me. I'm not interested in enforcing compliance of belief. But can you just drop this issue now? You've been simply repeating yourself for a few pages. |
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I know that its all hot air atm. good luck to anyone trying to ride the pump. i don't have the balls anymore . one more thing. I'm all for giving value and recieving value type of actions in this crypto community. Tell me where is the value keycoin devs is giving to XC in exchange for Dans time except that one line thank you so far? The point is that Dan's review is the value given to XC. - it establishes Dan's reputation in the community - it demonstrates his spirit of mutual respect and goodwill - it further solidifies XC's reputation as a real, legit project - it gets Key members interested in XC. Best move ever on Dan's part. |
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