It doesn't matter if the insurance company knows. If you get a DNA test, and you know that you have a higher than average chance to get a specific disease, and don't disclose that to an insurance company, then your insurance cover is void.
Better not to know, and to be covered by health insurance than know, and be uninsurable.
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Sitting at an airport bar in some foreign country, waiting another hour before my flight boards, and I begin my return flight to Texas (All alone. Rick had to bail earlier due to business matters tearing him away from us)
Beer #4 flowing through my veins.
Can't wait to get home.
On a tangential note, and without wanting to break any OpSec, I just wanted to sincerely, and honestly make a point about getting colonoscopies before age 40.
I recommend colonoscopies start at age 35, but, whatever.
Colon cancer has already taken a "brother" from my life - WAY before his time - and I don't wish to lose family members to the same disease in the future (Prognosis is good at this stage with early Stage 3 diagnosis for current family member undergoing treatment - the reason for my visit out of the country)
Perhaps, also do at least the 23andme test. Don’t do any DNA test. Your DNA data will be out in the wild and used against you. https://www.businessinsider.com.au/dna-testing-ancestry-23andme-share-data-companies-2018-8
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We have plenty of coal allegedly
Supposedly 100 years of coal in the US, but I don't know many people with coal powered cars. So yea, shouldn't be a problem powering buildings in the US with a combination of coal and nuclear, but there's no substitute for oil to power the cars. The future I imagine for the west is an oil shock and a large societal shift to where western countries are going to be riding around on little motorcycles that consume small amounts of gas like they do in Asian countries. Then some electric cars here and there, with the big gas guzzlers only being used to transport food or other materials. As for this ArrieMoller and Trollgoossens guy, Europe has just about no fossil fuels, so you guys are cucked unless you beg Putin to not let you die. Can always charge batteries with electricity generated from nuclear power while transitioning to solar and fusion. The transition also won't be nearly as bad as you make it out to be if it's a necessity. Necessity implies disproportional profits, which from your perspective the Jews would be so happy to provide that they'll make it work. If they don't they'd be stuck with little to nothing and a lot of mostly useless money. I instead to be 100% energy self sufficient (car & house) within the next 24 months. Currently have a Powerwall2 on order so I can capture my solar for night time use instead of dumping it into the grid. It’s 13.5kwh so not enough to take me off the grid altogether but I’m getting close. Electric car is next. Big oil and the Saudis can go fuck themselves. Looking at the Taycan, Model 3 Performance but there are some other interesting ones in the pipeline. Like this electric Peugeot concept. https://i.ibb.co/nM9q9jb/44-B453-B0-BBB0-4-B72-BACE-726-D75-FC29-A6.jpgNo need to muck about with nuclear, the future is already here. Dammit HM i like you very much.... but don’t go electric on cars let us humans keep cars and Bikes on oil engines, i like them so much Hope this doesn’t make me a bad person ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) No it doesn't. But let me propose that we restrain oil cars to specifically designed race tracks in the future and keep streets that are meant for transport and travel automated and electric. That way we can have the best of both worlds while minimizing the down sides: pollution and accidents. Guys ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FzrN9BMH%2Fcover.jpg&t=663&c=ISEhu1rR__IzHw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FrbDCjgh%2Fpeugeot-e-legend-concept-sporty-looks-43.jpg&t=663&c=nrBLIqpm-iS3_w) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FVMcv53n%2Fpeugeot-e-legend-gallery-ogi.jpg&t=663&c=kCvK5cVIrQsYpg) This is a car* that is: - faster than a Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4
- always free to fill up at home (solar + storage)
- many businesses will allow you to fill up for free if you eat a meal there or stay in their hotel
- has almost no maintenance except tyres, wiper blades and rarely brake pads
- sits 4 people in comfort
- travels 335 miles / 540 km on a single tank of electricity
- has the highest safety rating of any car ever built
- runs completely silent and silky smooth
- doesnt harm the environment
- chicks dig it
What's not to like? *Specs based on the Tesla P100D because this car is not yet in production but you get the general idea
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Wait, a Peugeot? Unacceptable.
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At least Adam used to delete Roach when he got too out of hand, for some reason infofront is providing a platform for them
Infofront's got more of a life probably, just that. Often busy with his day job and always with his newborn. Personally speaking, I like his relaxed style. He does have a go at cleaning up once in a while. I agree roach and others are a nuisance with their slavering rants, so when things become uncomfortable we have that useful ignore button. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Thanks. I've been staying up with the thread, but not posting much. The boring BTC action tends to nurture these side conversations as well. I don't personally find the discussion of Muslims going on here to be any more off topic (or offensive) than the discussion of mathematics that's been going on for several days. Also, one thing I look for when determining if someone is trolling is the amount of engagement. Is the person just shitposting, or engaging in conversation? With r0ach, for example, it's often a mix of both. So we're cool with providing platform to proposals for murdering babies and wiping out this or that class as long as some PM pushing is sprinkled along the way? cause you know not allowing someone to push their propaganda on a BTC forum would be like communist censorship and such My ignore list of people quoting idiots got to a point where i just see full pages of ignored users Am inclined to believe that if we had some Jihadi Muslim on here calling for Sharia law, that individual would get banned / censored fairly quickly.
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^damn son 24 seconds! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FqcKAx3T.jpg&t=663&c=Zu_o0_5eCo1mlw) Hasn't Calvin also got a murder accusation hovering over him? Can't keep up tbh. I can see this ending with us both living in the data center to reduce our latency. HFT but shit posting. Sure you'll be able to afford any of that once you've settled your gambling debts? You can buy a lot of ramen for BTC0.012
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^damn son 24 seconds! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FqcKAx3T.jpg&t=663&c=Zu_o0_5eCo1mlw) Hasn't Calvin also got a murder accusation hovering over him? Can't keep up tbh. I can see this ending with us both living in the data center to reduce our latency. HFT but shit posting.
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CRYPTO CONNECTION
The gunman appears to have published a 74-page manifesto for the attack that is making the rounds online and in which he rambled off inspirations, political and otherwise, leading up to this awful day. After revealing that video game Fortnite taught him how to be a killer, the gunman disclosed that he has dabbled in cryptocurrency, writing:
“I worked for a short time before making some money investing in BitConnect, then used the money from the investment to travel.”
He reportedly used the profits to travel overseas across Europe, Southeast Asia, and Asia, which may be where he became radicalized, according to the manager of the gym where the gunman worked. https://www.ccn.com/christchurch-terrorist-invested-and-profited-from-crypto-scam-bitconnect I am convinced this is a false flag. Too much weird shit that doesn't add up otherwise. Same. Pity that the masses don't see the agenda. There's still loads who believe terrorists took control of 3, 747's with box cutters and performed impossible maneuvers. 1. Ibian says that all the Muslims deserved to die (except the dogs). 2. Ibian says that this was a false flag operation. Anyone else see a teeny weeny inconsistency here ? Edit: You can’t go around saying people deserve to die and then act all shocked when some nutter kills them.
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stamp data, log scale, puts the bear line at 42
Like all things TA, it depends how you draw it. On mobile atm but I assume you are drawing out to the $6k flattening tip? I am using the Bitfinex Tether scare spike as an anchor.
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can you guys f***ing tell me what about you're talking?? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Someone (I forgot who) made some post about there being no absolute truths or somesusch. I object to this as I think it a cover for all sorts of bad behaviours like “alternative facts” so challenged on the basis that 2+2 always = 4. Of course I don’t know any higher order mathematics so was quickly proved wrong. Now I am trying to understand why I was wrong.
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Ok work with me here. How do we achieve the assumption that numbers are a finite field?
Feel free to refer me to beginner level reading to save you typing it all out.
As for a "beginner level" introduction, I'm not really aware of any that isn't gritty rigorous Math. And in that case any would be as good as any other I suppose, since the definitions are always the same (except for perhaps the symbols used). If you feel like digging deeper I'm sure you'll find any number of resources on Google. All my notes and books for these topics are in non-English though, so I can't recommend you any reference here. But alas. Assumptions are created out of more or less thin air. Generally based on past experiences (I'm not sure if we can arrive at any assumption without making references to previous ones, which is a problem in and of itself). It's also not exactly that numbers "are" a finite field, they can be depending on how many you have to play with. The numbers we usually use are not a finite field, you always have a unique "+1". However. In the case of finite fields, if you want to go from the "human experience" side you could think of it like this. If you think that infinity exists, then there's not much reason to argue here since you can just keep adding numbers and always get a unique new one, so 1+1 will always be 2 in that world. If you however believe that infinity can't exist in reality, then the only conclusion is that any field of numbers must be finite, because you'll eventually run out. And in that world you eventually come full circle, otherwise you can't have a number field that functions in the way we understand numbers. It is the only way to formalize our natural understanding of numbers (that I am currently aware of). As for what fields are, here's a very brief overview that leaves out a fair deal of the gritty parts that are necessary to formalize this. But this should hopefully give somewhat of a more formal intuition that you could compare against our natural intuition. A field can be any set of numbers that satisfies a few properties. The most important ones for the topic we're having are the existence of a set of elements (or numbers), the existence of two operations (e.g. addition and multiplication), the existence of a neutral element for each operation, and the existence of an inverse element for each operation. Let's take {0,1} as the set of numbers. And addition and multiplication as its two operations. The operation "o" (+ or *) now has to ensure that each element has a unique inverse element. So if you take any element X , there must be another element Y such that X o Y spits out the neutral element regarding "o". For addition this is 0 (you add 0, shit happens), for multiplication it's 1 (you multiply by 1, nothing happens). If you think about it, whenever you invert a number you get its neutral, 3 * 1/3 = 1, 3 + (-3) = 0. If these properties are violated you can somehow show that the whole natural intuition of numbers just breaks down, but I can't think of a good example on the spot. Been too long since I've done anything in this area. In the usual fields the inverse element would just be -X for addition and 1/x for multiplication. In this finite field you can't do this, because "1/1" clearly does not exist as neither does an element called "-1". However, with the circular arrangement you can quickly see that: 0+0 = 0 1+1 = 0 0*1 = 0 1*0 = 0 1*1 = 1 Hence, each element has an inverse regarding multiplication and addition, and our intuition still works. This way to look at it satisfies the requirements of a field. It just so happens to be finite. This curiously doesn't work for any set of numbers either, the number of elements has to be infinite, a prime, or a prime power. If you want to get technical, then "2" in the way we normally understand it won't give you "2+2 = 0", but there is an abstract field that extends {0,1} in a way such that the elements that you could "call '2'" would satisfy 2+2 = 0. You can easily get 2+3=0 for {0,1,2,3,4} with the usual addition though (check this yourself if you'd like as an exercise). As for 'why' this works, I doubt anybody knows. Emergent properties? Essentially, fields are merely a formalization of the way in which we naturally came to use numbers based on our experience of reality. And the formalization naturally gives rise to both finite and infinite fields. There are also weird fields that have polynomials as their "numbers" and where "1" is suddenly a polynomial (the constant polynomial 1). But you would never expect either of these by not carefully thinking about the fundamentals, what you already know, the implications of either, or what other ways you could view what you already know in. These weird mysteries are why I'm against quickly rushing to conclusions on any subject and prefer looking for as many explanations and vantage points as I am currently capable of. The universe has a way to always screw us when we think we "know", and to reward us with new exciting experiences if we remain open. Quoting this so I don’t lose it. Am working on this as well.
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I’m still working on a basis for numbers being a finite field. Which makes sense if you think space time is bounded. Less so if not.
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As for a "beginner level" introduction, I'm not really aware of any that isn't gritty rigorous Math. And in that case any would be as good as any other I suppose, since the definitions are always the same (except for perhaps the symbols used). If you feel like digging deeper I'm sure you'll find any number of resources on Google. All my notes and books for these topics are in non-English though, so I can't recommend you any reference here. But alas.
[2+2 <> 4] quite interesting, thanks for giving me something new to chew on. initially i thought you were referring to some sort of quantum effect as applied to math, as it seems quantum effects can create temporary energy as long as its "paid back" (like say a number, but not number in abstract, more like now when there was one something there are 2 somethings or 0 somethings. i only went as far trig and some calc.. when i hit calc, and didnt see a traditional number on any page till like 50 pages in, my brain just stalled. too busy then partying the best days of my life away. some regrets, but not many. Honestly it's never to late, especially if you're interested. When I was doing my Bachelor there was a guy well into his 50s or 60s who was taking all the "real" Math lectures with us as opposed to the dumbed down ones for Economists etc. People were very welcoming towards him and he seemed to be enjoying himself quite a lot. I changed universities throughout my Bachelor to the next city. And found the same guy taking Master level lectures at the new place when I was a bit later (first place was for Economics and Business with focus on Math, second had a proper full blown Math department). So clearly he didn't just attend, he was doing quite well too. And that appeared to be his first time at university in his life as well. And older people have the big bonus that they may not have to perform or prove anything. You could just study for the sake of it, which takes all the stress away. And their life experiences can make it easier than for most young students who are still trying to figure out what the fuck is going on with life in the first place. Be prepared to feel like a complete idiot as you start out, should you choose to do so though. I have not met anyone who didn't at least throughout the better portion of the first semester. But even those come back years later and still find new things they had not considered. The very first minute of the very first lecture that I took I almost fell into despair just looking at the blackboard. Anyway, not trying to shill you into anything here. But the option is there and worth considering. Especially for those with an appreciation of just thinking about things they don't need to for nothing other than the sake of doing so. There are very few ways that are similarly efficient in breaking down all of your preconceived notions as studying Mathematics. Notions such as regret for example. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) My wife and I have agreed we are going back to uni when we retire. We want to take anthropology courses together. Maybe I will add some pure math as well following our discussions.
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Also that powerwall thingy is still pretty expensive. If you can afford to pay the premium for the privilege of being completely self sufficient then great. For me, a couple of years or maybe a bit more and I will be there.
So maybe not already there... but almost.
Yes the ROI on the Powerwall2 is fairly marginal. It has a 10 year guarantee and I should hit ROI in 8 years, but I think it should still have a useful economic life after that. The ROI is driven by your feed in tariffs (revenue you get from exporting electricity to the grid). Effectively your marginal cost of production is your night time import cost minus your daytime feed in tariff per KWh. My solar system is oversized so I export more than I consume so power companies tend to pay me except in the depths of winter. Interested to see how use of the Powerwall shifts the curves around. The Powerwall3 is coming in a couple more years and with any luck it will be half the cost per KWh of the Powerwall2 (which was half the cost per KWh of the Powerwall1). That could very well be economic for people who are not on solar to shift to time of use tariffs, take their electricity from the grid at offpeak and consume during peak. And of course it will be killer for solar.
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We have plenty of coal allegedly
Supposedly 100 years of coal in the US, but I don't know many people with coal powered cars. So yea, shouldn't be a problem powering buildings in the US with a combination of coal and nuclear, but there's no substitute for oil to power the cars. The future I imagine for the west is an oil shock and a large societal shift to where western countries are going to be riding around on little motorcycles that consume small amounts of gas like they do in Asian countries. Then some electric cars here and there, with the big gas guzzlers only being used to transport food or other materials. As for this ArrieMoller and Trollgoossens guy, Europe has just about no fossil fuels, so you guys are cucked unless you beg Putin to not let you die. Can always charge batteries with electricity generated from nuclear power while transitioning to solar and fusion. The transition also won't be nearly as bad as you make it out to be if it's a necessity. Necessity implies disproportional profits, which from your perspective the Jews would be so happy to provide that they'll make it work. If they don't they'd be stuck with little to nothing and a lot of mostly useless money. I instead to be 100% energy self sufficient (car & house) within the next 24 months. Currently have a Powerwall2 on order so I can capture my solar for night time use instead of dumping it into the grid. It’s 13.5kwh so not enough to take me off the grid altogether but I’m getting close. Electric car is next. Big oil and the Saudis can go fuck themselves. Looking at the Taycan, Model 3 Performance but there are some other interesting ones in the pipeline. Like this electric Peugeot concept. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FnM9q9jb%2F44-B453-B0-BBB0-4-B72-BACE-726-D75-FC29-A6.jpg&t=663&c=crahbsjCDDLXsg) No need to muck about with nuclear, the future is already here.
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If we can hold this, we have broken the back of the bear market.
Much to early but I like where your going with this...tell us more. Major technical victory to the bulls today. For the second time since ATH, we have broken the bear line (other time was at $6k during the great flattening). If we can just keep tracking sideways from here, we clear away from the bear line and the downward pressure since $20k evaporates. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F34Lxyxh%2FBear-line-broken.png&t=663&c=lRRKOcEMY5XgWQ)
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